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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3240 on: October 19, 2016, 05:04:49 am »
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18 October 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~85.25kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : left trap , ~90% now

HORIZONTAL LEG PRES:
10@100lbs
10@200lbs
10@300lbs
10@400lbs
10@450lbs
7@495lbs

HORIZONTAL CHEST PRESS MACHINE:
10@50lbs
10@65lbs
10@80lbs
10@95lbs
10@110lbs

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN:
10@100lbs
10@110lbs
10@120lbs
10@130lbs
8@140lbs

STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
12@BW+55kg ( +5 kg )
12@BW+55kg ( +5 kg )
12@BW+55kg ( +5 kg )
-Easy besides adding weight, nice.

-Did a machine gym day, didn't want to challenge my trap with anything 'free'. Went well. There was only some very mild discomfort/tightening at the two heaviest sets of pulldowns, everything else was totally pain-free. Might even try to play basketball tomorrow.
Leg press was... very nice! I know we are supposed to hate it but i liked it a lot. Really consider adding some volume pressing as squat complement. I know squat is a totally different movement, involving core and CNS, but think about just legs a bit : My max ATG squat currently is 4@85kg , add 80% of my weight so my legs can deep-squat 4 reps @150kg , so you can't really ignore the ability/potential of deep-pressing 7 reps @225kg , amiright???
« Last Edit: October 19, 2016, 05:27:36 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3241 on: October 19, 2016, 07:54:57 am »
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re: leg press

fwiw, I don't think we should hate it (i know you were kindof kidding). It seems like it could be a useful assistance tool - but i'd personally choose something involving barbell assistance. So ya it's definitely not useless, it is activating muscle fibers ;f

If you add it in, curious to see what you think of it after utilizing it for a while.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3242 on: October 21, 2016, 06:50:22 am »
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Yeah, fuck leg-press, all this ego-pumping tonnage didn't do shit for my legs , 4@85kg squat >>>>> 10@220kg leg-press.



20 October 2016

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : quads tight
Injuries/aches : left trap , 95% or so

1½ hours full court basketball.
Incredibly better fitness. But i haven't run at all lately. So what happened? I just minimized ( actually zeroed ) alcohol and cigars consumption last week. Man, all the difference in the world, just from one week. Literally incredible. On a mission to keep that up lately.
Jumping is still sub-par though. There was this play that i followed a fast break from the main corridor and i jumped for the follow in case the winger loses the lay-up. Lane was free, got a perfect run-up and plant, i am used to get palm at rim at such situations, or double hand rim touch. Man, i didn't even get rim, and i missed it by a lot too, current in-game DLRVJ = ~22''  :uhhhfacepalm:  :uhhhfacepalm:  :uhhhfacepalm:.
Legs are still and ever too tight. Quads hurt a bit when i jump, always. Idk, I'm thinking i might have developed quads tendonitis? Will never now until i get my ass down to stretch and SMR.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3243 on: October 21, 2016, 05:19:37 pm »
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Yeah, fuck leg-press, all this ego-pumping tonnage didn't do shit for my legs , 4@85kg squat >>>>> 10@220kg leg-press.



20 October 2016

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : quads tight
Injuries/aches : left trap , 95% or so

1½ hours full court basketball.
Incredibly better fitness. But i haven't run at all lately. So what happened? I just minimized ( actually zeroed ) alcohol and cigars consumption last week. Man, all the difference in the world, just from one week. Literally incredible. On a mission to keep that up lately.

that'll do it.. (cutting out cigars/alcohol) hah.

also i've found lately .. a TON of watermelon a few hours before an endurance/speed session and I feel ridiculous.. i think that's my new performance-enhancing-pregame-food. hydration + sugar all in one.

i still like bananas the day before & day of.. but i think a ton of watermelon is my new go-to for pre-important-performance.



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Jumping is still sub-par though. There was this play that i followed a fast break from the main corridor and i jumped for the follow in case the winger loses the lay-up. Lane was free, got a perfect run-up and plant, i am used to get palm at rim at such situations, or double hand rim touch. Man, i didn't even get rim, and i missed it by a lot too, current in-game DLRVJ = ~22''  :uhhhfacepalm:  :uhhhfacepalm:  :uhhhfacepalm:.
Legs are still and ever too tight. Quads hurt a bit when i jump, always. Idk, I'm thinking i might have developed quads tendonitis? Will never now until i get my ass down to stretch and SMR.

i've been stretching my quads alot lately.. i tell you, at night, my quads are sooo much more flexible -> and I run a ton faster.. i just fly at night. In the morning, my quads are tight .. takes me alot longer to warmup, get loose, etc.. and even when i'm running, i still feel nothing like how I do in the evening.

i scratched the SMR .. felt like it was tearing me up more than helping. I've been back on stretching but, trying to go really light. Trying my hardest never to force anything or get "greedy" on a stretch.. I think it's definitely making a difference in my running.

the biggest thing i've noticed is.. with standing quad stretch, in the evening I can use one hand (grabbing my ankle) and get my heel to my butt easily.. in the morning, initially it feels like ~4+ inches away.. and it takes a while to get heel to butt... seems like a significant difference (time of day / flexibility).

so ya, at least get some stretching in.. ;f I know i've recommended it a bunch but, even if it's just during your lifting sessions, i think it's better than nothing. Back when I was doing the LTMP stuff, I felt like I do now - in the evening. Legs are just so snappy/explosive.

sorry my wording is all wrecked, im actually eating watermelon.  :motherofgod:

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3244 on: October 22, 2016, 05:59:03 am »
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lol yep i bet cutting cigars helps with breathing.
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3245 on: October 24, 2016, 06:36:15 am »
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Yup, both right obviously! I'll try to stay 'clean' and get to stretch. Can't promise i will do it. But i will try, hard!

22 October 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~85,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : left trap, ~95%

HALF SQUAT:
10@20kg ( -5 kg )
8@40kg ( -5 kg )
6@60kg ( -5 kg )
5@80kg ( -5 kg )
5@100kg ( +5 kg )
5@110kg ( +5 kg ) , season best
-Great! Changed the ramping function a bit. 110kg didn't even feel hard, good stuff.

DIPS:
9@BW ( +1 rep ) , season best
8@BW
8@BW
PUSHUPS:
SEATED HORIZONTAL CHEST PRESS MACHINE: 17@80lbs
-Mentally defeated by pushups that injured me last week, just thinking of doing them made me feel injury re-flaring lol.

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
8@BW ( +1 rep ) , ties season best
7@BW
6@BW
CHEST SUPPORTED HORIZONTAL ROW MACHINE: 16@50kg ( +1 rep )
-Very nice.

SLANT BENCH LEG RAISE:
15@BW
15@BW
15@BW
-Nice

45° BACK EXTENSIONS:
15@BW+5kg ( +5 kg )
14@BW+5kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
14@BW+5kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
-Welcome weighted. Failed to get last rep in last 2 sets, surprising how holding a 5kg plate at my chest made such a difference.

Overall very nice workout.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3246 on: October 25, 2016, 06:56:05 am »
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24 October 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~84,75kg
Soreness : none?
Injuries/aches : left trap , > 95% now

ATG SQUAT:
4@82,5kg
7@65kg
7@67,5kg  ( +2,5 kg )
-Small improvement in the heavy set form. Huge improvement in the volume sets form, it's been a while since i did so upright squats with a challenging -for me- weight+reps scheme.

BENCH PRESS:
4@70kg ( -1 rep )
4@70kg
4@70kg ( -1 rep )
15@55kg ( +1 rep )
-Last week's de-training had consequences, was a bit weaker. Still strong for me.

DEAD-HANG PULLUPS:
9@BW ( +1 rep ) , season best!
7@BW
7@BW
WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN: 16@140lbs ( +2 reps )
-Strong!

STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
12@BW+55kg
12@BW+55kg
12@BW+55kg
-Good.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3247 on: October 28, 2016, 06:00:26 am »
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27 October 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~86kg , no idea why
Soreness : some slight quads soreness
Injuries/aches : none

DEADLIFT:
10@20kg
8@40kg
6@60kg
5@80kg
3@90kg
2@100kg
1@110kg
1@120kg
1@130kg , season best!
-Great. Wasn't even that hard, could surely grind 140. Havent DLed for a month though so AELS. Also no trap bugging at all so i consider it fully healed.

DB SHRUGS:
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand

SUPERSET:
S1: Z-BAR CURLS 12@25kg
S2: TRICEP PUSHDOWN 12@140lbs
Info: 4 rounds.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3248 on: October 28, 2016, 12:51:32 pm »
+1
sick @ deadlift.. also, i imagine if there were anything that would wreck your trap it would be deadlifting (and maybe parallel bar dips).



have you been stretching???  :derp:

if you stretch, maybe you should list it (since it's so rare).

my morning quad/hamstring ROM has really improved over the last month.. just consistent standing quad & standing two-leg hamstring stretches. I keep forgetting to stretch my calves tho.. need to do that soon actually. I'm stretching very light, not forcing anything at all. Trying to make sure I don't have an aggressive-mindset for stretching. I think that's been one of my problems; in the past i've taken my aggressive-mindset to stretching and that's how I accumulated some serious stretching-related injuries.. but ya this light daily stretching seems to have kicked in. I like it.

light stretching for performance/strength gains, hypnotize yourself! ;f

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3249 on: October 28, 2016, 05:46:56 pm »
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sick @ deadlift.. also, i imagine if there were anything that would wreck your trap it would be deadlifting (and maybe parallel bar dips).



have you been stretching???  :derp:

if you stretch, maybe you should list it (since it's so rare).

my morning quad/hamstring ROM has really improved over the last month.. just consistent standing quad & standing two-leg hamstring stretches. I keep forgetting to stretch my calves tho.. need to do that soon actually. I'm stretching very light, not forcing anything at all. Trying to make sure I don't have an aggressive-mindset for stretching. I think that's been one of my problems; in the past i've taken my aggressive-mindset to stretching and that's how I accumulated some serious stretching-related injuries.. but ya this light daily stretching seems to have kicked in. I like it.

light stretching for performance/strength gains, hypnotize yourself! ;f

pc

Light morning stretching is so underrated. Doesn't have to be heavy. I've never felt so good as when I used to do light dynamic stretches (leg and arm swings) in the mornings. Set me up for the rest of the day.
"Train as hard as possible, as often as possible, while staying as fresh as possible"
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3250 on: October 31, 2016, 09:55:37 am »
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^Thanks both, I'll try to go with this morning thing, looks promising and anyway whatever i do is better than nothing.
Andrew, of course i'll log if i stretch. And sadly, the fact i didn't log means i didn't stretch at all, only between squat sets.



29 October 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~83,5kg , yay, 2 days of light eating, drained.
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HALF SQUAT:
10@22,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
8@42,5kg (+2,5 kg )
6@62,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@82,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@102,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@112,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , season best
-Decently hard. Very solid. Good for more.

DIPS:
10@BW ( +1 rep ) , season best , i think it ties  :personal-record: ?
8@BW
6@BW+6kg ( +6 kg ) , ( -2 reps )
PUSHUPS: 26@BW , season best!
-Great, added weighted set, next time all weighted.

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
9@BW ( +1 rep ) , season best , i think ties all time :personal-record: ?
8@BW ( +1 rep )
6@BW
CHEST SUPPORTED HORIZONTAL ROW MACHINE: 16@50kg
-Strong!

SLANT BENCH LEG RAISE:
15@BW
15@BW
15@BW
-Nice, straigher legs

45° BACK EXTENSIONS:
15@BW+5kg
15@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
15@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
-Got all reps. Damn hard. Weird, the more I flex glute and hams the more my back feels them when doing them. But next day no back soreness, all PC, so ok.



31 October , AM:

Light dynamic warmup and light stretching session ,  :wowthatwasnutswtf:  :almostascoolasnyancat:  :goodjobbro:  :motherofgod:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3251 on: October 31, 2016, 04:19:03 pm »
+1
sick @ deadlift.. also, i imagine if there were anything that would wreck your trap it would be deadlifting (and maybe parallel bar dips).



have you been stretching???  :derp:

if you stretch, maybe you should list it (since it's so rare).

my morning quad/hamstring ROM has really improved over the last month.. just consistent standing quad & standing two-leg hamstring stretches. I keep forgetting to stretch my calves tho.. need to do that soon actually. I'm stretching very light, not forcing anything at all. Trying to make sure I don't have an aggressive-mindset for stretching. I think that's been one of my problems; in the past i've taken my aggressive-mindset to stretching and that's how I accumulated some serious stretching-related injuries.. but ya this light daily stretching seems to have kicked in. I like it.

light stretching for performance/strength gains, hypnotize yourself! ;f

pc

Light morning stretching is so underrated. Doesn't have to be heavy. I've never felt so good as when I used to do light dynamic stretches (leg and arm swings) in the mornings. Set me up for the rest of the day.

nice. get back on that! ;f

fwiw, my dog's always stretch before getting out of my bed.. they do a few stretches while they wag their tail, then they sprint out of bed looking to play outside. hah.





31 October , AM:

Light dynamic warmup and light stretching session ,  :wowthatwasnutswtf:  :almostascoolasnyancat:  :goodjobbro:  :motherofgod:

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3252 on: November 01, 2016, 06:45:58 am »
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31 October 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~85kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

ATG SQUAT:
4@82,5kg
7@67,5kg  ( +2,5 kg )
7@67,5kg
-Great. Good form at heavy set, awesomeness at volumes. Advancing.

BENCH PRESS:
5@70kg ( +1 rep )
4@70kg
5@70kg ( +1 rep )
16@55kg ( +1 rep )
-Great.

DEAD-HANG PULLUPS:
8@BW ( -1 rep )
7@BW
6@BW  ( -1 rep )
WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN: 17@140lbs ( +1 reps ) , season best!
-Weirdly weak pullups, felt off, strong pulldown drop-set!

STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
12@BW+60kg  ( +5 kg )
12@BW+60kg  ( +5 kg )
12@BW+60kg  ( +5 kg )
-Strong.

1 November AM : Light dynamic warmup and light stretching session , 2 days in a row, PR!!! lol  :uhhhfacepalm:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3253 on: November 01, 2016, 07:01:41 am »
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LDW for the win  :headbang:
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« Reply #3254 on: November 03, 2016, 05:55:18 am »
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Yup, gotta keep at it! Looks like it does loosen things a lot, e.g. more than an extended stretching session at night, weird. Didn't do 2 previous mornings, did today.

Last night:

2 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : 84,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

DEADLIFT:
10@20kg
8@40kg
6@60kg
4@80kg ( -1 rep )
3@90kg
2@100kg
1@110kg
1@120kg
1@140kg , ( +10 kg ) season best!
-Awesomeness. 140kg wasn't easy and wasn't pretty, but it wasn't an ugly grinder either, something in the middle, 3-4s with some back rounding. Maybe even happier with 120kg, it flew up in perfect form.

DB SHRUGS:
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand

SUPERSET:
S1: Z-BAR CURLS 12@25kg
S2: TRICEP PUSHDOWN 12@140lbs
Info: 4 rounds.

C2 ROWER (  :wowthatwasnutswtf: ):
10 minutes , 1650m
Resistance level : 8
Style:HIIT , 30seconds ME , 90 seconds easy ( ~25spm )
Max pace i saw was at the end of the 4th of 5 sprints, 2m/500m, the others would max at around 2m10s/500m

C2 is funnnnn! Also was much less tiring than i expected. Being smoke-free is such a game-changer!
This 2m/500m max pace i got, if i could keep it steady i would do 2km in 8m , that is a WR time  :headbang:  :headbang:  :headbang:
......................................................... in the 85-89 age group for males and 70-79 for females !  :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?