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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3255 on: November 03, 2016, 06:24:02 am »
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Yup, gotta keep at it! Looks like it does loosen things a lot, e.g. more than an extended stretching session at night, weird. Didn't do 2 previous mornings, did today.

Last night:

2 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : 84,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

DEADLIFT:
10@20kg
8@40kg
6@60kg
4@80kg ( -1 rep )
3@90kg
2@100kg
1@110kg
1@120kg
1@140kg , ( +10 kg ) season best!
-Awesomeness. 140kg wasn't easy and wasn't pretty, but it wasn't an ugly grinder either, something in the middle, 3-4s with some back rounding. Maybe even happier with 120kg, it flew up in perfect form.

DB SHRUGS:
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand

SUPERSET:
S1: Z-BAR CURLS 12@25kg
S2: TRICEP PUSHDOWN 12@140lbs
Info: 4 rounds.

C2 ROWER (  :wowthatwasnutswtf: ):
10 minutes , 1650m
Resistance level : 8
Style:HIIT , 30seconds ME , 90 seconds easy ( ~25spm )
Max pace i saw was at the end of the 4th of 5 sprints, 2m/500m, the others would max at around 2m10s/500m

C2 is funnnnn! Also was much less tiring than i expected. Being smoke-free is such a game-changer!
This 2m/500m max pace i got, if i could keep it steady i would do 2km in 8m , that is a WR time  :headbang:  :headbang:  :headbang:
......................................................... in the 85-89 age group for males and 70-79 for females !  :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm:

Haha I feel you bro I recently broke the 500m c2 wr for males 13 years old and younger.  :headbang:
Nonetheless... great progress on your lifting lately... keep them  :personal-record: 's coming!  :strong:

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3256 on: November 04, 2016, 06:04:49 am »
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^Thanks man. Yup, that's all that is to it, keep pushing hard and gains will keep coming.



3 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
As expected, fitness level is skyrocketing just from not smoking. This is really great. I didn't gas-out at all this time. And i didn't skip any plays either, was chasing/following all fast breaks, playing active role ( off the ball, screens etc ) in all plays. It is amazing, you get to enjoy basketball so much more when you have the lungs for it.
Jumping was horrible though. Did a few rim jumps, total disaster: ~22'' SVJ , 26'' RVJ, barely touching rim, WTF! Ingame was the same thing, didn't get any blocks at all for the first time this season. Rebounding was bleh too. This is VERY demotivating, destroyed the good mood i had from the first paragraph. Training every year all year to jump high and then you get shit like that!
Maybe it was a CNS thing ( maxing out DL previous evening plus a very poor sleep night, 4-9am ). Or maybe i am not recovering well from hitting legs in the gym 3*week. I am leaning towards CNS because everything was a bit off, thinking vs doing had a big lag.
Ok, just a bad bball day, let's not make a drama out of it, see what happens next week.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3257 on: November 07, 2016, 06:31:04 am »
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5 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~85kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HALF SQUAT:
10@20kg ( -2,5 kg )
8@40kg ( -2,5 kg )
6@60kg ( -2,5 kg )
5@80kg ( -2,5 kg )
5@100kg ( -2,5 kg )
5@115kg ( +2,5 kg ) , season best!
-Great! Lost a few inches of depth at top set but still legit, knee angle was like 92-93 degrees instead of 88-90 of lighter sets. Gonna stay there to get those inches/degrees.

DIPS:
6@BW+5kg
5@BW+5kg
5@BW+5kg
10@BW ties PR
-Strong! Switched to weighted. So also replaced pushups-to-failure drop set with BW-dips-to-failure.

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
9@BW ties PR
7@BW ( -1 rep )
7@BW ( +1 rep )
CHEST SUPPORTED HORIZONTAL ROW MACHINE: 17@50kg  ( +1 rep )
-Strong!

SLANT BENCH LEG RAISE:
15@BW
15@BW
15@BW
-Working on getting legs as straight as possible. Slow but constant progress.

45° BACK EXTENSIONS:
15@BW+5kg
15@BW+5kg
15@BW+5kg
-Progress here too. Probably adding weight next time.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3258 on: November 08, 2016, 04:18:07 am »
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7 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~85,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

ATG SQUAT:
4@85kg ( +2,5 kg )
7@70kg ( +2,5 kg )
7@70kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Beast, best squat session of the year by far, heaviest AND best form.

BENCH PRESS:
5@70kg
5@70kg  ( +1 rep )
5@70kg
16@55kg
-3x5@70 ties lifetime PR. I was 2-3kg heavier too back then so....  :personal-record:  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

DEAD-HANG PULLUPS:
10@BW ( +2 reps ) , season best, ties lifetime PR!
7@BW
7@BW  ( +1 rep )
WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN: 17@140lbs
-Beast.

STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
12@BW+65kg  ( +5 kg )
12@BW+65kg  ( +5 kg )
11@BW+65kg  ( +5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
-Second week on the row adding weight. VERY strict with form/ROM hence the fail at last set.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3259 on: November 10, 2016, 04:55:52 am »
+1
Forgot to log, been doing the morning-light-dynamic-warmup-and-stretching  evvery day this week except from today.

Last night:

9 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : 85,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@20kg
5@25kg
5@30kg
5@35kg
5@40kg
3@45kg
3@50kg
3@55kg
-Welcome back HPC. Very rusty, so took it easy, many sets with light weights to catch up with technique and feeling. Good call, 55kg was kinda fugly despite not feeling that heavy.

DEADLIFT:
10@20kg
8@40kg
6@60kg
4@80kg
3@90kg
2@100kg
1@110kg
1@120kg
1@140kg
MSEM : 6x1@110kg
-Decided to stop going for 1RM and switch to MSEM, that should help next day's bball too ( less CNS drain, more CNS stim ).
Used 45 seconds breaks. 110kg was fairly easy. Gonna ramp that up slowly, no rush, ideally in the end i would want to reach doing 6x1 with current max ( 140 ) and perfect form.

DB SHRUGS:
Z-BAR CURLS
TRICEP PUSHDOWN
C2 ROWER

Didn't do any of those. Instead, figured it would be more beneficial for me at this point to spend the 30 more minutes i had to spare at the gym doing....
FOAM ROLL: IT band, quads, hams, glutes
STATIC STRETCHING : every leg muscle!
-Felt awesome. Sooo much tightness, sooo much pain and sooo much release.
:wowthatwasnutswtf:  :highfive:  :headbang:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3260 on: November 10, 2016, 11:36:11 am »
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reach doing 6x1 with current max ( 140 ) and perfect form.

DB SHRUGS:
Z-BAR CURLS
TRICEP PUSHDOWN
C2 ROWER

Didn't do any of those. Instead, figured it would be more beneficial for me at this point to spend the 30 more minutes i had to spare at the gym doing....
FOAM ROLL: IT band, quads, hams, glutes
STATIC STRETCHING : every leg muscle!
-Felt awesome. Sooo much tightness, sooo much pain and sooo much release.
:wowthatwasnutswtf:  :highfive:  :headbang:

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3261 on: November 11, 2016, 07:00:43 am »
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10 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
Very indifferent day. Fitness was good but not better than last time, maybe a bit worse. Legs were looser than recently, so foam roll and stretch does work ( no shit! ), but not loose. Jumping felt a bit better than last time, but it was still bad. My game was bad too, i built my whole game ( offense and defense ) around high jumping all those years. Having a ~10'1'' max touch renders that invalid, so i get demotivated and also kinda useless.

Next day , legs are toasted again, VERY tight. OK, i am tired of this. I am making recovery ( stretch and foam roll ) #1 priority on my training. From now on, It will be OK if i miss a squatting day but it will not be ok if i don't stretch/SMR. DAILY!!! I will try to keep this up till Christmas, see what happens. If legs are still tired/stiff/tight/under-performing by then, i will go to check them at a sports doctor.

Word.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3262 on: November 13, 2016, 12:39:20 pm »
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10 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
Very indifferent day. Fitness was good but not better than last time, maybe a bit worse. Legs were looser than recently, so foam roll and stretch does work ( no shit! ), but not loose. Jumping felt a bit better than last time, but it was still bad. My game was bad too, i built my whole game ( offense and defense ) around high jumping all those years. Having a ~10'1'' max touch renders that invalid, so i get demotivated and also kinda useless.

Next day , legs are toasted again, VERY tight. OK, i am tired of this. I am making recovery ( stretch and foam roll ) #1 priority on my training. From now on, It will be OK if i miss a squatting day but it will not be ok if i don't stretch/SMR. DAILY!!! I will try to keep this up till Christmas, see what happens. If legs are still tired/stiff/tight/under-performing by then, i will go to check them at a sports doctor.

Word.

nice.. interested to see how this goes. it's the "psychology" change that'll make the difference.

I personally have just reverted to focusing entirely on my quads (with just a little calf/hamstring).. that seems to give me the best bang-for-my-buck. I have a few weird side effects of stretching my hamstrings: hamstring tendons can get achy or painful, calves can tighten up. Also stretching my calves seems "iffy", sometimes it helps, sometimes it causes problems. So the weird thing is, it seems that stretching my quads seems to be something that "always provides benefit" - it almost seems like a cheat code.. i feel so good when I loosen them up.

so ya I think that's the key, experimenting with several flexibility/recovery techniques and then finding the stuff that provides the MOST benefit.. once we find that, then we can focus more on that, and then just throw in a few other things to be safe.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3263 on: November 14, 2016, 05:38:03 am »
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^Yes, it is all about mentality. Ive posted quite a few times i just gotta tune my mindset differently and prioritize recovery. Just not able to do that so far, too weak, too squat headed. Hoping it will be different this time around. And yes, it is all around the quads for me too. Vastus lateralis, hip flexors and IT bands is 90% of the deal. We will see, i hope.

Weekend update:

Friday 11/11 : 5' foam roll IT bands + 5' stretch quads



12 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~85,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HALF SQUAT:
10@25kg ( +5 kg )
8@45kg ( +5 kg )
6@65kg ( +5 kg )
5@90 80kg ( +10 kg )
5@105 100kg ( +5 kg )
5@115kg , ties season best , improved ROM!
-Beast! Everything felt MUCH lighter on back. Did all sets heavier, yet the top set was better, great!

DIPS:
7@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
6@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
5@BW+5kg
12@BW ,  ( +2 reps ) , lifetime  :personal-record:
-Beast!

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
10@BW  ( +1 rep )  , lifetime  :personal-record:
7@BW
7@BW
CHEST SUPPORTED HORIZONTAL ROW MACHINE: 16@50kg  ( +5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
-Beast!

SLANT BENCH LEG RAISE:
15@BW
15@BW
15@BW
-Better again. Not ready for weighted though.

45° BACK EXTENSIONS:
15@BW+7,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
15@BW+7,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
15@BW+7,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Very strong here too, got all reps. Will re-do that weight though to 'master' it.

RECOVERY:
20 minutes static stretch all leg muscles.



Sunday 13/11 : 10' foam roll it bands and quads , 2 sessions of 5-10' each stretch quads and glutes

Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3264 on: November 15, 2016, 06:34:58 am »
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14 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~86,25kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

ATG SQUAT:
4@87,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , season best!
7@72,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , season best!
7@72,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , season best!
-Aaaand , top set is now over BW  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Stretching works, legs feel much fresher and stronger. Still tight and buggy but much less. I think if i keep this up i will see a huge difference.

BENCH PRESS:
5@70kg
5@70kg
5@70kg
18@55kg   ( +1 rep ) , high-rep  :personal-record:
-My best benching session EVER!

DEAD-HANG PULLUPS:
9@BW ( -1 reps )
8@BW ( +1 rep )
7@BW
WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN: 17@140lbs
-Total reps for 3 sets tie  :personal-record:
I am at limit strength here. Maybe i should switch my 3xF to weighted and change drop-set from pulldown machine to unweighted pullups ( possibly with less ROM for more reps? ).

STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
12@BW+65kg
12@BW+65kg
12@BW+65kg  ( +1 rep )
-Got my 3x12 but it was tough, gonna keep being ultra strict with ROM and form and add weight when i dominate this one under those circumstances.

RECOVERY : just some quad stretching, like 5 mins total? too little but better than none.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2016, 07:04:36 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3265 on: November 16, 2016, 07:03:42 am »
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^ A couple statistic notes for this session that i missed.
-All squat sets were season best!
-The 24 total reps of dead-hang pullups ( which i re-did previous week ) tie lifetime PR.

Recovery stuff:
15 November , PM : 15 mins it bands and quads foam rolling , 15-20 mins legs stretching.
16 November , AM : Light dynamic warmup + light quads stretching.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3266 on: November 16, 2016, 10:59:28 am »
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^ A couple statistic notes for this session that i missed.
-All squat sets were season best!
-The 24 total reps of dead-hang pullups ( which i re-did previous week ) tie lifetime PR.

Recovery stuff:
15 November , PM : 15 mins it bands and quads foam rolling , 15-20 mins legs stretching.
16 November , AM : Light dynamic warmup + light quads stretching.

nice!! :headbang: the stretch-lyfe is working well for you so far, it seems.

the quad-stretch cheat code.. seems real.  :ninja:

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« Reply #3267 on: November 17, 2016, 02:24:05 am »
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^Thanks man. Really wish it is a cheat indeed. Too early to tell but signs are very encouraging so far. This is huge, if it gets my legs to feeling normal it would be a few years more that i can keep doing this, and i don't have many left, hehe. Very curious to see how basketball will feel today!



16 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : 85,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@20kg
5@25kg
5@30kg
5@35kg
5@40kg
3@45kg
3@50kg
3@55kg
1@60kg ( extra set ) , season best.
-Much better hip drive in all reps and sets.

DEADLIFT:
10@20kg
8@40kg
6@60kg
4@80kg
3@90kg
2@100kg
1@110kg ( extra set )
MSEM : 6x1@115kg ( +5 kg )
-VERY good, felt great improvement at leg-driving them.
Also filmed a couple of the MSEM singles, very happy with form.

STATIC STRETCHING : 30 minutes, stretched the shit out of every single leg muscle!
-Sweeeeet.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3268 on: November 18, 2016, 06:47:26 am »
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17 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
Fitness improved again. If i also worked on it i could bring it to all time best, but i am very close to that even by just not smoking and balling once a week.
Legs much looser. Shit works very good! Felt faster smoother and bouncier. Felt in-game jumping was better, got a couple of blocks after a while and also rebounding was improved.
Then, at the end, although very fatigued, I decided to do a couple of rim jumps just because i felt bouncy. BAM, repeatable 10'5''/30'' , season best, 2016 best, didn't even feel maximal.  :ibjumping:  :ibjumping:  :ibjumping:

Gotta keep at this recovery priority, just a week and it is already paying off. Still very tight, have a long way to go, but i'll take that road!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3269 on: November 19, 2016, 07:27:56 pm »
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Friday 18/11 : 10' foam roll IT bands + 10' stretch quads



19 November 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~86kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HALF SQUAT:
10@25kg
8@45kg
6@65kg
5@85kg ( -5 kg )
5@105
5@117,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , season best!
-Awesome. Those are going reeeealy good!

DIPS:
7@BW+5kg
7@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
6@BW+5kg
13@BW ,  ( +1 rep ) , lifetime  :personal-record:
-Awesome.

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
10@BW , ties :personal-record:
8@BW ( +1 rep )
7@BW
CHEST SUPPORTED HORIZONTAL ROW MACHINE: 17@55kg  ( +1 rep ):personal-record:
-Awesome. Total reps for 3 sets is also  :personal-record:

SLANT BENCH LEG RAISE:
15@BW
15@BW
15@BW

45° BACK EXTENSIONS:
15@BW+7,5kg
15@BW+7,5kg
15@BW+7,5kg
-Much easier than last time, ready for 10kg.

RECOVERY:
10 minutes static stretch hip flexors and quads.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?