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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3390 on: October 04, 2017, 03:49:08 am »
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Thanks again. Going above 12 should be very hard i imagine. It is a long way up having 6'5'' wingspan on a 5'10'' body. First reps are easy, almost piston, but above 5 they get slow and hard, even at the fresh sets. I even have to hang for a couple of seconds to gather a few breaths for the last 1-2 reps. Maybe clusters is the way, something like rest-pause. But what i like doing when i reach >10 reps is switch to weighted and combine them with an AMRAP BW finisher.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3391 on: October 04, 2017, 05:48:44 am »
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Well, i should elaborate more: I am not 5'10'', i am 6' barefoot. But i have very long neck and big head , also long legs. So, to get to 6' with them, the main body i have would be a 'normal' body size for someone 5'10'', maybe even lower. Still, long hands, yes. Great for dunking/basketball etc, i feel what you're saying.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3392 on: October 05, 2017, 06:28:39 am »
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4 October 2017

Bodyweight@session : ~84.5kg
Soreness : quads, lats , both 2/5
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER SNATCH:
5@20kg
5@30kg
3@35kg
3@40kg
3@42,5kg

RDL:
8@65kg
8@75kg
8@85kg ( +1 rep )

DB LUNGES:
6 each leg @ 16kg each hand
6 each leg @ 16kg each hand
6 each leg @ 16kg each hand

SEATED NEUTRAL GRIP DB OHP:
12@16kg each hand ( -2 kg per hand )
12@16kg each hand ( -2 kg per hand ) , ( +1 rep )
12@16kg each hand ( -2 kg per hand ) , ( +2 reps )

BICEPS Z-BAR CURL:
12@25kg ( -2,5 kg )
12@25kg ( -2,5 kg )
12@25kg ( -2,5 kg ) , ( +2 reps )

TRICEPS PUSH DOWN:
12@130lbs
12@130lbs
12@130lbs ( +1 rep )

Haven't done the legs stuff since 13 September so did the same loads, haven't done the arms stuff since 7 September so took a step back.
Good choice overall, only lunges were too easy. Should have known, didn't lunge for 3 weeks but squat was in constant progress during them.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3393 on: October 05, 2017, 12:51:09 pm »
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MOAR MIRIN.

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also, how the F do some people do 20+ (1+ sec paused) dead hang? lmao. who knows maybe you'll get there eventually, seems really hard to me. would be sick if you got to 15 dead hang. For me, arms/lats just die out & don't recover. Imagine i'd need to add weighted variations to really try and bump that up, because i guess it's just taking too much strength to knock out each rep, even though they feel light/smooth initially.

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lance cud do them at 220lb .. beast. I think i could have done them when i weighed 75kg or less but i dont think that counts. ha ha. wud have to train for it tho obviously cos i never did high rep sets (For me 6 was the highest, weighted but).
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3394 on: October 06, 2017, 11:55:17 am »
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5  October 2017

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : overall legs kinda tight/stressed, mostly quads and glutes
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
Bad.
Didn't sleep to well. Worked out legs 2 days the same week before bball after some time. Finally, I have a lot of work lately and i am being extremely creative and productive but i think the mind drain has a toll on my body too. All those combined gave a bad result:
Was slow, was weak, was numb. Felt legs had explosive power in them but I wasn't able to bring it out. Fitness was a bit improved, still mediocre though.
Better luck next time! :D
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3395 on: October 06, 2017, 05:42:55 pm »
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5  October 2017

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : overall legs kinda tight/stressed, mostly quads and glutes
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
Bad.
Didn't sleep to well. Worked out legs 2 days the same week before bball after some time. Finally, I have a lot of work lately and i am being extremely creative and productive but i think the mind drain has a toll on my body too. All those combined gave a bad result:
Was slow, was weak, was numb. Felt legs had explosive power in them but I wasn't able to bring it out. Fitness was a bit improved, still mediocre though.
Better luck next time! :D

I think the condition of the mind is just as crucial to performance as the condition of the body....

Agreed. CNS drain that eventually leads to overtraining is highly affected by your state of mind and stress levels. Even a moderately challenging workout routine can overwork you if you have chronic stress and especially traumatic events. So important to manage stress levels.

I remember Lyle (body recomp guy) had an article talking about hitting a very abrupt point of overtraining and he really emphasized that issues with his personal life were major contributors to it. He was out for like half a year after that I think, so scary sounding

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3396 on: October 08, 2017, 06:15:17 am »
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Thanks guys!
Totally agree about anxiety etc. But i was talking about sth different. How intense mind work actually tires the body too. Without anxiety.
Anyway turns out it was sth totally different, was a little sick hahaha. Worse friday and saturday, missed saturday lifting session, fml, good now (sunday).
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Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3397 on: October 08, 2017, 06:43:07 am »
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i'm mirin` your dead-hang pullup PR.

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ETA: also, once shoulder is healthy and i can start doing proper upper body training again, i'm adding pull ups/chin ups to the list. gf's new roommate, who's also my friend, has a chin up bar. gonna race joe to the OAC.
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3398 on: October 09, 2017, 01:11:03 pm »
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What's the race? Can i join? I did 8 reps at 90kg (gym) bodyweight (vid on insta). Gna struggle to get to 20 but it would be fun to start a forum contest.
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3399 on: October 10, 2017, 08:15:13 am »
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By googling OAC i presume the race is about achieving a One Arm Chinup. I researched a bit too. OAC is cool, not sure i've got it in me but why not, I'm in.  8)
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3400 on: October 10, 2017, 08:25:30 am »
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By googling OAC i presume the race is about achieving a One Arm Chinup. I researched a bit too. OAC is cool, not sure i've got it in me but why not, I'm in.  8)

ooh. in that case im out lol. ive heard it's harder than getting a 2xbw chinup. harder for me than a 300 bench which is already impossibru
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3401 on: October 10, 2017, 09:02:35 am »
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I was never in, but i'm also out. OAC scares me. lmao.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3402 on: October 10, 2017, 09:08:25 am »
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« Last Edit: October 10, 2017, 09:17:54 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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« Reply #3403 on: October 13, 2017, 05:47:41 am »
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Big work attack, FML. Tyrna do what i said in the season beginning, minimize losses...

12 October 2017

Bodyweight@session : ~83,5kg , so im not only detraining, i am wasting away too, GRRRRRRR
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@20kg
5@40kg
3@50kg
3@60kg ( +2,5 kg )
1@65kg  ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -2 reps )
-Almost got 2@65. All time PRs are 3@65 / 1@67,5 so this is very nice!

ATG SQUAT:
10@20kg
8@40kg
5@60kg
5@72,5kg
4@85kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
-Missed a rep at top set , BUT , first time this year that load > BW , very nice!

BENCH PRESS:
10@20kg
8@40kg
5@52,5kg
5@62,kg
5@67,5kg
-Nice.

DEAD-HANG PULLUPS:
10@BW ( - 1rep )
8@BW ( - 1rep )
7@BW ( - 1rep )
7@BW
6@BW ( - 1rep )
Total reps = 38 ( -4 reps )
-Something was off here, everything kept giving up after rep 5.

PAUSED STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
12@BW+80kg
12@BW+80kg
12@BW+80kg
-Nice.

Ok, not that bad for a 10 days forced off, progressed a few things too. Only pullups were bad.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3404 on: October 15, 2017, 01:53:33 pm »
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14 October 2017

Bodyweight@session : ~83kg , dude, eat!!!
Soreness : chest, lats, quads, glutes, calves. all minor though
Injuries/aches : none

PUSH-PRESS:
5@20kg
5@40kg
3@45kg
3@47,5kg
3@50kg
-Nice and smooth, should have tried heavier.

HALF SQUAT:
5@65kg ( +5 kg )
5@75kg ( +5 kg )
5@85kg ( +5 kg )
5@95kg ( +5 kg )
5@105kg ( +5 kg )
-Very nice.

DIPS:
10@BW
10@BW
10@BW ( +1 rep )
8@BW
8@BW
-Total is season best.

DEAD-HANG CHINUPS:
9@BW
8@BW
7@BW ( -1 rep )
7@BW
7@BW
-Ok

PAUSED SEATED CALF RAISE MACHINE:
12@BW+60kg
12@BW+60kg
12@BW+60kg

Again haven't done this workout for 2 weeks. Not bad considering. Now gotta stay consistent and attack progress!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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