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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3600 on: September 04, 2018, 04:02:08 am »
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3 September 2018

Bodyweight@session : 85kg
Soreness : glutes a lot, shoulders medium, lats minor
Injuries/aches : none

ATG SQUAT:
5@62,5kg
5@62,5kg
5@62,5kg
15@50kg ( +5 kg )
-Same weights but much better feel at working sets, even better progress at drop set.

BENCH PRESS:
5@62,5kg
5@62,5kg
5@62,5kg
13@50kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -2 reps )
-Exact same comment with squats.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
5@BW+5kg
5@BW+5kg
5@BW+5kg
9@BW
-Same loads/reps better feel/control.

Nice, now must add weight everywhere next workout.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3601 on: September 06, 2018, 04:32:26 am »
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5 September 2018

Again torn between hitting the weights or running, again running won!  :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning:

So went for a 5K , unfortunately there was a concert exactly at the middle of the course i do, roads were packed with cars and pavements were packed with people. Modified my course a bit but still couldn't get a steady rhythm, interruptions all the time as you can see from the graph below.
Oh well, 5K is 5K , got them in 36 and a half minutes.



In other (related) news, I signed up for a 5K at this event : http://www.thessalonikihalfmarathon.org/index.php?lang=en.
Unfortunately it is a major event that all the city goes to run at it, and it is a ~1M city. So from what i hear the start is awful, queues are huge unless you are in the 15' group and there are people all over the place throughout the whole duration of the event. Doesn't matter, its my first official event! :D

« Last Edit: September 06, 2018, 04:35:22 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3602 on: September 06, 2018, 07:02:18 am »
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In other (related) news, I signed up for a 5K at this event : http://www.thessalonikihalfmarathon.org/index.php?lang=en.
Unfortunately it is a major event that all the city goes to run at it, and it is a ~1M city. So from what i hear the start is awful, queues are huge unless you are in the 15' group and there are people all over the place throughout the whole duration of the event. Doesn't matter, its my first official event! :D

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3603 on: September 06, 2018, 09:38:41 am »
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In other (related) news, I signed up for a 5K at this event : http://www.thessalonikihalfmarathon.org/index.php?lang=en.
Unfortunately it is a major event that all the city goes to run at it, and it is a ~1M city. So from what i hear the start is awful, queues are huge unless you are in the 15' group and there are people all over the place throughout the whole duration of the event. Doesn't matter, its my first official event! :D

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awesome, should be fun. looks like a fast race/big event.

i don't think it'll be as bad as they say. once you actually cross the start (when chip timing begins), maybe ~30s of traffic then it'll probably clear up. so ya there might be a traffic jam before you get to the actual start line, but once you do, should open up and you'll be good.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3604 on: September 07, 2018, 05:44:52 am »
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Will be fun for sure! But the too crowded thing is real : it is a charity event that everyone wants to participate, without running, they just walk the course. It will clear up eventually but that will be much more than 30s i guess. Here is some footage of last year, the 5km starts at 2:35 , lol look at that crowd!!!
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLL0krOgycQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLL0krOgycQ</a>



6 September 2018

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : some quads and glutes but rather minor, some systemic fatigue too.
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
Much much much better endurance. But still far away from where I want it, or even from a level i would call 'good'. But far from bad too.
Happy with speed and strength. Now gotta work on acceleration/1st step and also vert. The less tired i get the more of those i can phase in my game.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2018, 05:48:28 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3605 on: September 07, 2018, 09:14:47 pm »
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Will be fun for sure! But the too crowded thing is real : it is a charity event that everyone wants to participate, without running, they just walk the course. It will clear up eventually but that will be much more than 30s i guess. Here is some footage of last year, the 5km starts at 2:35 , lol look at that crowd!!!
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLL0krOgycQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLL0krOgycQ</a>



6 September 2018

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : some quads and glutes but rather minor, some systemic fatigue too.
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
Much much much better endurance. But still far away from where I want it, or even from a level i would call 'good'. But far from bad too.
Happy with speed and strength. Now gotta work on acceleration/1st step and also vert. The less tired i get the more of those i can phase in my game.

they did a great job with that video, looks like a beautiful event! :ibrunning: :wowthatwasnutswtf:

also, 31s :motherofgod:

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3606 on: September 10, 2018, 04:47:30 am »
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8 September 2018

Bodyweight@session : ~85,5kg
Soreness : IDK, none?
Injuries/aches : none

RDL:
8@70kg ( +5 kg )
8@70kg ( +5 kg )
8@70kg ( +5 kg )
-Still rather too easy but i am doing as i said, stay low at weights and progress keeping ultra solid form.

DB LUNGES:
8 each leg @ 14 kg DB each hand ( +2 kg per hand )
8 each leg @ 14 kg DB each hand ( +2 kg per hand )
8 each leg @ 14 kg DB each hand ( +2 kg per hand )
-Nice.

BB OHP:
5@40kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@40kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@40kg ( +2,5 kg )
15@30kg
-Disappointed for not progressing dropset but excited for hitting an ultra strict 3x5@40.

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
6@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
5@BW+5kg
5@BW+5kg
10@BW ( +1 rep )
-Strong! Decided a progress plan: will up the 3x5 weight whenever i can do 3x6 with it.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2018, 06:31:39 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3607 on: September 11, 2018, 03:53:21 am »
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10 September 2018

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : some minor lats glutes and shoulders/pecks(?!?!?)
Injuries/aches : none

-Run 2.5km in ~15' ( 6'/km average pace )
-Slow jog/walk ~500m
-Sprint ~200m + walk back x 4
-Cool down slow jog/walk ~400m

Total : 5km in 35'

Was about time to start pushing. Happy, both lungs and legs were very... cooperative. 6' pace was just pushing a bit above comfortable, not even close to (current) max.
Tracker reported a top speed PR during the 200m sprints but i an not buying it, it says 18,5kmh, previous was 16,8. It didnt feel that fast so I am not claiming it, unless i repeat it next session.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2018, 03:55:01 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3608 on: September 12, 2018, 05:22:34 am »
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11 September 2018

Bodyweight@session : 86kg
Soreness : quads and glutes from the sprints
Injuries/aches : none

ATG SQUAT:
5@65kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@65kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@65kg ( +2,5 kg )
15@52,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Very nice. Plenty of room for progress.

BENCH PRESS:
5@65kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@65kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@65kg ( +2,5 kg )
15@50kg ( +2 reps )
-Very nice too but progress will be slow from here up.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
6@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
6@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
5@BW+5kg
10@BW ( +1 rep )
-Strong!

Nice, now must add weight everywhere next workout.

Done!  8)
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3609 on: September 13, 2018, 05:27:30 am »
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12 September 2018

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : quads and glutes a lot , chest and lats and shoulders medium
Injuries/aches : none

Damn it , all that progress in the weight room came with some DOMS consequences.

Went for a recovery run. Kept it very easy, one click below 'comfortable', actively slowing down all the time, could as well stop running and start fast walking at the same speed.
In the back of my head i wanted to do 10km with 7'/km pace. In real world, my pace was close ( 7'15'' ) but VMOs started cramping at around ~4,5km so decided to stop at 6km.

Total : 6km in 43'35''
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3610 on: September 14, 2018, 05:47:45 am »
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13 September 2018

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : Unrecovered. Systemic fatigue/soreness all over
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
Endurance improved again. Strength good. Vert felt better, got some rebound and block attempt jumps that felt pretty high.
But being unrecovered made me slow: low speed, low acceleration, low reaction times, no explosiveness.
I guess i haven't fully adapted yet, I keep getting wrecked when i push it a bit more in frequency/volume/intensity.
Oh well, no worries, patience and consistency. Piece by piece , the puzzle will assemble well eventually.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3611 on: September 17, 2018, 06:07:44 am »
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15 September 2018

Bodyweight@session : ~86,25kg , it is going up , good, feels like clean gains
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

RDL:
8@75kg ( +5 kg )
8@75kg ( +5 kg )
8@75kg ( +5 kg )
-Strong.

DB LUNGES:
8 each leg @ 16 kg DB each hand ( +2 kg per hand )
8 each leg @ 16 kg DB each hand ( +2 kg per hand )
8 each leg @ 16 kg DB each hand ( +2 kg per hand )
-Strong.

BB OHP:
5@40kg
5@40kg
5@40kg
14@32,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
-Very nice.

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
6@BW+5kg
6@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
6@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
10@BW
-Got my 3x6, adding weight next time. I will not use 1,25kg plates for increments, because that is in the daily BW fluctuation tolerance, will use 2,5 kg.

Strong day, enjoyed it!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3612 on: September 18, 2018, 10:48:39 am »
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17 September 2018

Went for a run.
Plan was a fast 5K , to see where i am. Goal (estimation) was 30m(+-1).
Result was..... 27'54'' , HUGE MF  LIFETIME :personal-record: BY 36 SECONDS, FIRST TIME EVER UNDER 28'' , BLLAAAARRRGGHHHHH  :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibsquatting: :ibjumping: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :headbang: :highfive:

Did the first 3km at around 90%buffer. When i saw i was at 5'35'' average at 3km, I knew i had to chase the PR and so i did. At the same time fatigue kicked in so the last 1,5km was @ 100%. However i found this new trick, like phasing out of the struggle, detaching from the body. Knowing and feeling the pain/fatigue , but somehow like watching it from above. Find the pace, follow it, ignore the pain. I have no idea if that make any sense and if i am describing it well, but it worked damn well.

Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3613 on: September 18, 2018, 12:30:28 pm »
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yep detaching from the discomfort and watching from outside definitely sounds familiar.
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3614 on: September 18, 2018, 01:58:25 pm »
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17 September 2018

Went for a run.
Plan was a fast 5K , to see where i am. Goal (estimation) was 30m(+-1).
Result was..... 27'54'' , HUGE MF  LIFETIME :personal-record: BY 36 SECONDS, FIRST TIME EVER UNDER 28'' , BLLAAAARRRGGHHHHH  :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibsquatting: :ibjumping: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :headbang: :highfive:

Did the first 3km at around 90%buffer. When i saw i was at 5'35'' average at 3km, I knew i had to chase the PR and so i did. At the same time fatigue kicked in so the last 1,5km was @ 100%. However i found this new trick, like phasing out of the struggle, detaching from the body. Knowing and feeling the pain/fatigue , but somehow like watching it from above. Find the pace, follow it, ignore the pain. I have no idea if that make any sense and if i am describing it well, but it worked damn well.



great job man!!! huge PR. :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

when's your 5k race again? sounds like you should put it in the upcoming competitions thread............ :ninja:

also, not entirely sure what the detaching feeling is. when i'm in pain/struggling, man is it brutal hah. even in races, i don't think i've ever been able to detach from it. What works best for me is going into it head on, accepting it, and accepting that it'll get worse, so more of just an acknowledgement while i'm running that this will feel horrible & won't get any better. lol. Sometimes when I mention that I "had no fight", that's basically what i'm referring to. When I don't have any fight, I just back off and don't battle it.

great that it worked so well, keep perfecting it on important runs!

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