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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3645 on: October 23, 2018, 06:58:06 am »
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22 October 2018

Bodyweight@session : ~86kg
Soreness : glutes and some mid quads too.
Injuries/aches : none

ATG SQUAT:
5@72,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@72.5kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@72.5kg ( +2,5 kg )
15@57,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Very strong. Still on linear progress, 2,5kg per week.

BENCH PRESS:
5@65kg
5@65kg
5@65kg
15@52,5kg  ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -3 reps )
-Great. Upping next time as planned.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
5@BW+7,5kg
5@BW+7,5kg
5@BW+7,5kg
11@BW
-Tried to get a 6th rep in any set but didn't have it. Still very strong and solid ( plus 1kg heavier than last week ).
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3646 on: October 24, 2018, 09:51:09 am »
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Gotta start running again. No real run since previous Saturday's race. Just 20 mins bike and 1 bball session (ok 1 more bike today and 1 more bball tomorrow ). Not a dramatic off  but gotta get back at it relatively soon.

Also, i want to buy a smart watch. I was thinking Samsung galaxy watch ( im a samsung guy, got mobile and TV and i am really happy with them ). Note that the strongest reason for getting it is for fitness tracking. Samsung watch is a great all around choice. But the Samsung running app on my mobile (samsung health) is very basic, it keeps only total time, total kcals and 1km splits. No custom laps, no other auto metrics. e.g. if from 1.5km to 2.5km i do 4', but 1 to 1.5 / 2.5 to 3 was walking , like 5' each, then the log will say 2nd km was 7 minutes and 3d km was 7 minutes, the intermittent 1km PR is lost.

I searched a bit the reviews but couldn't find what i wanted. Before i dig deeper, can you guys tel me:
Long shot : Is there someone with a samsung watch? Or someone that can easily find the full specs of the samsung watch fitness tracker?
For a larger target group : Is there a mobile app (android) that does such complicate measurements? Ideally i would like a full report like those that adarq posts. 12 mins test, fastest km fastest mile fastest idk what. That's garmin right? Is that from a built in app? Or from a post-processor that i can download too?

If i can get good/complex measurements with an app, i will prefer the samsung watch. If not, then i will opt out the smart/cell stuff and will buy a garmin watch. 

Thanks and cheers!  :lololol:
« Last Edit: October 24, 2018, 10:43:24 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3647 on: October 24, 2018, 11:54:12 am »
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mapmyrun measures pace continuously and works on laptop and phone. i haven't used it to program workouts since i got a garmin but iirc the phone app does that as well. adarq uses strava.

as with many things, the basic version of mapmyrun and strava have decent but limited functionality (although it sounds like more than samsung fitness app), and if you pay you get more bells and whistles. for example i get 1 km splits in addition to the timeline of my pace*, but if i paid for an mvp membership i could get 100m and 500m splits. mapmyrun syncs automatically with my garmin, as would strava if i used that.

*and elevation, although the garmin is pretty inaccurate on that.
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3648 on: October 25, 2018, 09:08:06 am »
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Ah that is very useful, thanks! Ill give those a try and probably get the samsung watch which offers a greater level integration and is much more useful to me than a garmin.



24 October 2018

Bodyweight@session : ~85,5kg
Soreness : quads, glutes, abductors, chest, shoulders, lats. all rather minor
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER CLEAN:
10@20kg
5@30kg
5@35kg
5@40kg
5@45kg ( +2 reps )
5@50kg ( +2 reps )
3@55kg ( +1 rep )
2@60kg ( +1 rep )
1@65kg ( extra set )
5@50kg ( +10 kg ) , ( -3 reps )
5@50kg ( extra set )
-Chaotic improvement. Just 2nd session and i am 2.5 kg away from my 1RM PR. Gotta love that. 70 is going down for sure this year!!!

BICEPS Z-BAR CURLS:
10@27,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@27,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@27,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@27,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Strong and solid

TRICEPS ROPE PUSH DOWNS: ( new exercise )
10@100lbs
10@100lbs
10@110lbs
10@110lbs
-Somehow decided to switch to rope. Good choice. 20 lbs less is much harder and is felt much more right in the triceps.

STATIONARY BIKE:
25 mins: 11km / 170kcal worth.
-Super LISS, heart rate at the end was 110 or so.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3649 on: October 29, 2018, 07:07:26 am »
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25 October 2018

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : don't remember

1½ hours full court basketball.
Again all around good. Good endurance, speed, strength. And a bit more than good vert/spring, feels like my body is always ready for a good jump now. Maybe it is the power cleans. Ill take it. Must do rim jumps sometime soon.

Friday was a day off here so was away on a mini vacation till Sunday midnight. Not a total waste, got in some insane volume of (recreational/touristic) walking, e.g. Saturday was ~15km!!!  :o
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3650 on: October 31, 2018, 07:41:23 am »
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30 October 2018

Bodyweight@session : ~85,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

ATG SQUAT:
5@75kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@75kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@75kg ( +2,5 kg )
14@60kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
-Still very strong.

BENCH PRESS:
5@67,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@657,kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@67,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
15@52,5kg
-Very nice for first time at this load, expected to lose a couple of reps.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
6@BW+7,5kg ( +1 rep )
5@BW+7,5kg
5@BW+7,5kg
11@BW
-Solid.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2018, 06:28:40 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3651 on: November 01, 2018, 06:02:14 am »
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31 October 2018

Bodyweight@session : ~85,5kg
Soreness : quads, glutes, abductors, chest, shoulders, lats. all rather minor
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER CLEAN:
10@20kg
5@30kg
5@35kg
5@40kg
5@45kg
5@50kg
4@55kg ( +1 rep )
3@60kg ( +1 rep )
1@65kg
0@70kg
5@55kg ( +5 kg )
6@50kg ( +1 rep )
-Awesomeness! 3x60 is huge. 65 went up great also. 70 PR attempt was close.

BICEPS Z-BAR CURLS:
10@30kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@30kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@30kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@30kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Third time in a row adding weight, was hard this time but not near failure. Awesome!

TRICEPS ROPE PUSH DOWNS: ( new exercise )
10@110lbs ( +10 lbs )
10@110lbs ( +10 lbs )
10@110lbs
10@110lbs
-Great!

STATIONARY BIKE:
20 mins: 10km / 150kcal worth.
-Love this LISS recovery thing.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3652 on: November 02, 2018, 06:27:08 am »
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1 November 2018

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : glutes, traps, some shoulders and triceps
Injuries/aches : don't remember

1½ hours full court basketball.
Little improved endurance, no gassing out this time, there were tired sections but not totally gassed out.
All else the same, which is good all around for my standards. Some short dist HIIT would help now but i don't see it happening.
Vert was springy again, it has to be the power cleans.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3653 on: November 05, 2018, 05:31:47 am »
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3 November 2018

Bodyweight@session : ~85,75kg
Soreness : none?
Injuries/aches : none

RDL:
8@80kg ( +5 kg )
8@80kg ( +2,5 kg )
8@80kg
-Actually very easy. Solid, deep, great!

DB LUNGES:
8 each leg @ 16 kg each hand
8 each leg @ 16 kg each hand
8 each leg @ 16 kg each hand
-Rather easy here too, ready to up.

BB OHP:
6@40kg ( +1 rep )
6@40kg ( +1 rep )
6@40kg ( +1 rep )
15@32,5kg ( +1 rep )
-Awesome.

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
6@BW+7,5kg ( +1 rep )
6@BW+7,5kg ( +1 rep )
5@BW+7,5kg
11@BW ( +1 rep )
-Very strong and solid.

So i missed this workout last week again but was ultra strong. Im always strong November-December, it is the time i adapt for good after summer but not too much fatigue in. Gotta make the best i can out of it.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3654 on: November 06, 2018, 06:19:39 am »
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5 November 2018

Bodyweight@session : ~85,75kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

ATG SQUAT:
5@77,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@77,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@77,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
16@60kg ( +2 reps )
-Linear progress continues.

BENCH PRESS:
5@67,5kg
5@67,5kg
5@67,5kg
17@52,5kg  ( +2 reps )
-Awesome control at 67.5, already ready to up @ 2nd workout at that load. Strong dropset too.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
6@BW+7,5kg
6@BW+7,5kg  ( +1 rep )
5@BW+7,5kg
12@BW  ( +1 rep ) , ties  :personal-record:
-Very controlled, very strong.

Yup, another strong session as announced. Ride the rollercoaster while it lasts haha.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3655 on: November 08, 2018, 04:36:53 am »
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7 November 2018

Bodyweight@session : ~86kg , finally it moved up
Soreness : chest and lats a bit, also calves, wtf?
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER CLEAN:
10@20kg
5@30kg
5@40kg
5@45kg
5@50kg
5@55kg ( +1 rep )
3@60kg
2@65kg ( +1 rep )
0@70kg
0@70kg ( extra set )
6@55kg ( +1 rep )
8@50kg ( +2 reps )
-More progress, very strong. However 2 failed PR attempts were close but not that close.

BICEPS Z-BAR CURLS:
10@32,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@32,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@32,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
9@32,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
-Finally lost a rep. Very very strong though, fourth time in a row adding weight. Some ego pump from curling 10kg plates plus something (1.25kg , lol )

TRICEPS ROPE PUSH DOWNS:
10@120lbs ( +10 lbs )
10@120lbs ( +10 lbs )
9@120lbs ( +10 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
8@120lbs ( +10 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
-Reached limit strength here too. Still, very strong.

STATIONARY BIKE:
25 mins: 12km / 180kcal worth.
-Sweet sweat.

I need to find a way to break the 70kg plateau at HPCs, been stuck at it for ages. Checked log, last time i was in them again i was doing 65kg triples but still unable to to a single @70.
Volume dropsets like i do now are probably useless. Should do more near-max doubles and singles. Should also do some high pulls.
I like olifts very very much, i enjoy them, especially HPCs. And although it seems a very very long shot, I'd love to be able to clean 80kg.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2018, 05:54:48 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3656 on: November 08, 2018, 06:47:55 pm »
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HANG POWER CLEAN:
10@20kg
5@30kg
5@40kg
5@45kg
5@50kg
5@55kg ( +1 rep )
3@60kg
2@65kg ( +1 rep )
0@70kg
0@70kg ( extra set )
6@55kg ( +1 rep )
8@50kg ( +2 reps )
-More progress, very strong. However 2 failed PR attempts were close but not that close.

I need to find a way to break the 70kg plateau at HPCs, been stuck at it for ages. Checked log, last time i was in them again i was doing 65kg triples but still unable to to a single @70.
Volume dropsets like i do now are probably useless. Should do more near-max doubles and singles. Should also do some high pulls.
I like olifts very very much, i enjoy them, especially HPCs. And although it seems a very very long shot, I'd love to be able to clean 80kg.

Seems like a lot of volume there before you get to your PR attempt. Have you tried limiting the number of reps as you build up? I don't actually know the best way to do it but maybe you could try 10 with the bar, then 5 @ 30, 3 @ 40 then singles at 50, 60, 70 etc.
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3657 on: November 09, 2018, 05:36:30 am »
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^^^ Thats true and i thought of it and implemented it in the past. There is a grey area though, between doing too much (fatigued) and too little (not prepared well) for 1RM, you gotta find the sweet spot. If i had to do a 1RM trial id do it your way 100%. But i like the current build up volume, with a daily max attempt, i would just like the daily max to be improving too. I think the 70kg wall is mostly mental though. I should detach myself from that, keep training and let it happen whenever it does, no rush, everything else is improving anyway. For now I'll replace the high volume drop sets with heavy near-max doubles&triples for starters. Thanks!!!



8 November 2018

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : deltoids (?) and glutes, minor
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
Something was off. A bit slower, slower reactions too, more easily fatigued. Strength and vert were good again though. Want to do rim jumps. Must remember next time.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3658 on: November 12, 2018, 05:14:25 am »
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10 November 2018

Bodyweight@session : ~86,25kg
Soreness : none?
Injuries/aches : none

RDL:
8@85kg ( +5 kg )
8@85kg ( +5 kg )
8@85kg ( +5 kg )
-Grip was sabotaging me but got through it.

DB LUNGES:
8 each leg @ 18 kg each hand ( +2 kg per hand )
8 each leg @ 18 kg each hand ( +2 kg per hand )
8 each leg @ 18 kg each hand ( +2 kg per hand )
-Very nice.

BB OHP:
5@42,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
5@42,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
5@42,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
16@32,5kg ( +1 rep )
-Awesome, repping 42.5 for ultra strict full ROM OHP is amazing for me.

DEAD HANG CHINUPS:
6@BW+7,5kg
6@BW+7,5kg
6@BW+7,5kg ( +1 rep )
12@BW ( +1 rep ) , i think this ties  :personal-record:
-Very strong and solid.

Finally did this workout 2 Saturdays in a row and you can see the results! No time for bragging, gotta push even more!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #3659 on: November 16, 2018, 01:32:51 pm »
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Hectic work week, till 9pm, every day. Forced deload/rest. Timing ok, i have 5 more weeks to go as hard as i can till Xmas.



15 November 2018

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

1½ hours full court basketball.
Just like last time, something was off again. A bit worse endurance. The same not fast and not quick. Still good strength and vert, strength was a bit better actually.
Its ok overall, much better than when i started in August, but this specific time with the deload i expected something better. Oh well, next time.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?