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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4680 on: May 30, 2024, 04:04:32 pm »
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different people respond differently to different diets. you gotta just try stuff out and see what works best for you. for example, my father-in-law started IF'ing and had absolutely no trouble adjusting. he loves it. i tried it once ages ago after discovering that weird swedish bodybuilder on lyle mcdonald's old forum, martin something. hated it, i need breakfast.

calories in, calories out is the core, and you have to get vegetables and fruit and enough protein. everything else can vary, or doesn't matter.
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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4681 on: May 31, 2024, 05:48:08 am »
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Thans for the insight guys. Yeah i guess that if nutients/kcals are the same it won't make a real difference.
FWIW, i don't like breakfast, so im close to 14/10 IF even when i don't try to. So i think ill stick to that for the whatever ketones fat-burning voodoo hype shit. Ill just actively try to make the gap bigger, bring it closer to 16/8 or more.
What's the deal with fruits and veggies though? You mean replace carbs with them, or just make sure you have them too, for the vitamins & fibers?



30 May

Low aerobic HR zone run 7K @ 50:55 ( 7:16 pace )

Back to low 7s pace, despite legs still being sore & tired. Great.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4682 on: May 31, 2024, 08:54:11 am »
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i mean just make sure you have them, yeah.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4683 on: May 31, 2024, 09:46:37 am »
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Fruits good, but you don't need veggies.
Meat has more nutrients than veges which are largely leaves and stems, and can be toxic.
I don't eat any veges, but depending on you definition of a vegetable... cucumbers and avocados are more fruit than vege :)
I avoid all leafy things, seeds and grains

Meat, fruit, raw honey, maple syrup, A2 milk, cheese is all I eat


 

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4684 on: June 01, 2024, 07:05:59 am »
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Fruits good, but you don't need veggies.
Meat has more nutrients than veges which are largely leaves and stems, and can be toxic.

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4685 on: June 01, 2024, 04:41:40 pm »
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many many many studies have shown that eating vegetables has positive effects on health. to cite just one meta-analysis, which found not just statistically significant but practically meaningful (25-30%) reductions in the risk of stroke and esophageal cancer when people go from 0-~300g of veggies per day: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9556321/.

or, for a lay breakdown: https://lifehacker.com/health/tiktok-myth-vegetables-are-bad-for-you. (obviously, these myths have been around longer than tiktok. my in-laws, who don't know what tiktok is and who fight about everything else, are both dead-set against beans because of lectins. but it's a little like being against chicken because you can get salmonella from it when it's raw or undercooked. no one eats raw beans!)
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4686 on: June 03, 2024, 08:34:11 am »
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Im good with veggies, i do have to step my game up with fruits though, im constantly neglecting them.

31 May

DEADLIFT :
10 @ 30 kg
10 @ 50 kg
8 @ 70 kg
5 @ 80 kg
5 @ 90 kg
3 @ 100 kg
1 @ 110 kg ( extra set )

SEATED DB OHP : 4x10 @ 17.5 kg  each hand

LAT PULL DOWN : 4x10 @ 71kg
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4687 on: June 04, 2024, 02:59:33 am »
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3 June

Run 7.5K @ 43:38 ( 5:49 pace )

Summer heat is here. Still mild, last night T+DI was 140 (80+60). It's not that much but body is not used to it.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4688 on: June 04, 2024, 08:57:03 am »
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3 June

Run 7.5K @ 43:38 ( 5:49 pace )

Summer heat is here. Still mild, last night T+DI was 140 (80+60). It's not that much but body is not used to it.

tell me about it  :-[
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4689 on: June 05, 2024, 07:56:14 am »
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Im good with veggies, i do have to step my game up with fruits though, im constantly neglecting them.

I'm also bad about making sure I have fresh fruit regularly, because the quality of stuff here isn't great and making sure you eat it before it goes off can be annoying, and other practical reasons like that.

So, to make sure I have fruit, I just blend up a big smoothy every day with approx the following ingredients: 1 banana, lots of frozen berries, greek yogurt, protein powder, and creatine. I hate eating a proper meal in the morning, but this is easy for me to consume and helps me hit a lot of dietary bases, and I don't have to worry about my default daily fruit going off.
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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4690 on: June 10, 2024, 04:24:30 am »
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Summer heat is here. Still mild, last night T+DI was 140 (80+60). It's not that much but body is not used to it.

tell me about it  :-[

Right, saw your log entry, was like dejavu. Our weathers are extremely similar/synced. Very logical since we are at the same latitude but still feels crazy since we are half a planet away in longitude.



So, to make sure I have fruit, I just blend up a big smoothy every day with approx the following ingredients: 1 banana, lots of frozen berries, greek yogurt, protein powder, and creatine. I hate eating a proper meal in the morning, but this is easy for me to consume and helps me hit a lot of dietary bases, and I don't have to worry about my default daily fruit going off.

That's a nice trick. I'm trying to convince/challenge me to eat them raw though. I have plenty of access in high quality fresh fruit, its a shame i don't eat them.
Still failing so far, ate one banana and 1 apple the entire week lol



Damn log fell back, let's catch up

5 June

ATG SQUAT:
5@60kg
5@60kg
5@60kg
-Switched from one heavy 3 (70kg) to 3x5.


BB BENCH PRESS : 4x10 @ 50 kg

SEATED CABLE ROW : 4x10 @ 65 kg



6 June

Low aerobic HR zone run 7.5K @ 55:56 ( 7:28 pace )

T+DI over 150 now. Also very sore from squats. Surprising i even got under 7:30 average pace.



7 June

DEADLIFT :
10 @ 30 kg
8 @ 50 kg
8 @ 70 kg
5 @ 90 kg
3 @ 100 kg
2 @ 110 kg ( +1 rep )

SEATED DB OHP : 4x10 @ 17.5 kg  each hand

LAT PULL DOWN : 4x10 @ 71kg
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4691 on: June 10, 2024, 07:39:56 pm »
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joe i have a very similar smoothie, just with peanut butter instead of greek yogurt, and i've never taken creatine.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4692 on: June 12, 2024, 09:02:45 am »
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11 June

Run 5K @ 29:10 ( 5:49 pace )
Low aerobic HR zone run 2K @ 17:48 ( 8:53 pace )

Fkn heat wave hit us too early this year. Last night it was T+DI 156 (88+68) at 11pm for christ's sake!
Had to break the run, last year i didn't break runs until late July that TDI was 165, previous years i would endure/fight the heat and start breaking runs around early July.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2024, 09:22:12 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4693 on: June 13, 2024, 06:21:18 am »
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12 June

ATG SQUAT:
5 @ 60 kg
5 @ 62.5 kg  ( +2.5 kg  )
5 @ 62.5 kg  ( +2.5 kg  )

HORIZONTAL BENCH PRESS MACHINE: 4x10 @ 55 kg ( +5 kg )

SEATED CABLE ROW : 4x10 @ 65 kg

SS1a: DB HAMMER CURL : 12 @ 12.5kg each hand
SS1b: ROPE PUSHDOWN : 12 @ 17kg
SS1 info : 3 rounds

Nice.

« Last Edit: June 14, 2024, 06:57:35 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs VO2max
« Reply #4694 on: June 14, 2024, 06:57:01 am »
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13 June

Low aerobic HR zone run 7K @ 53:25 ( 7:37 pace )

Slow but it was again T+DI 155 and had squat-sore legs, so still fine.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?