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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #840 on: December 21, 2010, 10:19:55 pm »
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21 Dec 2010

Was kinda sick , no gym.

- 30 mins leg drain. Shit feels good!

hell yes it does hahah



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- Various bball palming drills ( iso bball palming variations) during the drain.

- My usual lower body stretch routine.

damn tons of people on here are getting sick... good thing i'm a hobo hermit, it helps me stay away from infection.. knock on wood (with sledgehammer).

feel better!

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #841 on: December 22, 2010, 04:29:57 am »
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are you genetically athletic and were you very active in your younger years? bc some of the ppl i know in their late 30s couldn't increase their vertical from 2in to 3in.

No to both. My natural built is totally non-athletic , thin but not lean , weak , slow.
In my younger years i was moderately active , some periods a bit more , some periods a bit less.
The main reasons this has worked are:
1) I am training right. ( program wise and nutrition wise ).
2) I am training consistent for ~3,5 years now.
3) I never get injured , this is where im gifted. Twist your fingers though!  ;D
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #842 on: December 22, 2010, 06:30:38 am »
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Well , wtf , im keeping a log anyway , but a public journal is allways good motivation to train.
Ok , so here's the race deal , my running vertical jump in inches must exceed my age in years! LOL
Im counting the winter seasons, as summer is usually off from training.
My height is ~6'1, my 1 hand reach is ~7'11'' , both in shoes.

Down here ill be posting/updating my PRs / milestones:

May 2009 : BENCH PRESS PR : 154x5 , BW ~187
May 2009 : SQUAT PR : 237x5 : @smith machine , in normal set day ( 5x5 ) , BW ~187
May 2009 : SVJ PR : 26'' , BW ~183
June 2009 : DLRVJ PR : 33'' , getting consistently wrist(8'') to 10' rim on 2 different gyms , BW ~180.
12 October 2009 : SVJ PR : 27'' , BW ~192
23 October 2009 : SVJ PR : 27,5'' , BW ~193
5 November 2009 : SQUAT PR : 242x5 , 5RM day , BW ~190
16 November 2009 : BENCH PRESS , equal PR , 5x154
19 November 2009 : SQUAT PR : 253x5 , 5RM day , BW ~195
14 December 2009 : BENCH PRESS PR : 3x165 , BW ~195
6 January 2010 : SVJ PR : 28,5'' , BW ~186
22 March 2010 : DLRVJ 32,5'' , no PR but i havent jumped above 32'' From June 2009 ( ! ) , BW ~187
19 April 2010 : SQUAT PR : 3x264 , MSEM , ~1min rest between reps , BW ~192
27 April 2010 : DLRVJ 33'' , PR tie.
20 May 2010 : SQUAT PR : 2x275 , MSEM , BW ~194.
6 June 2010 : DLRVJ 33'' , PR tie.
12 June 2010 : DLRVJ PR , 33,5''
15 June 2010 : SQUAT PR : 4x275 , normal set , BW ~198.
20 June 2010 : DLRVJ PR , 34''
25 June 2010 : SQUAT PR : 3x297 , normal set , BW ~196.
26 July 2010  : SVJ PR : 29'' , DLRVJ PR : 34,5'' , BW ~190









are you genetically athletic and were you very active in your younger years? bc some of the ppl i know in their late 30s couldn't increase their vertical from 2in to 3in.

vag is gifted in the dedication/consistency/hard work category, that's for sure :)

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #843 on: December 23, 2010, 01:43:32 pm »
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23 Dec 2010

ME jumps session

Weight@session : 200,5
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : slight hamstring soreness from RDLs

Jumping on concrete , 10' rim , limited light.

1x3 SVJs : Got 3d knuckle at rim , 10'3'' , 28'' , Season Best!

1x3 dropsteps : 10'7'' easy , got one at 10'7.5'' 32.5'' ,  :personal-record:

3x4 DLRVJs ( mixed runups , 2 to 4 steps ) :

Full runups : best 10'7'' ( 32'' )
Limited runups ( 1 or 2 steps ) : mostly 10'7.5'' , a couple of 10'8'' and one a bit higher , like 10'8.5'' , 33.5'' , Season Best!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #844 on: December 23, 2010, 02:11:55 pm »
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That's still higher than me, and I'm 10 years younger and squat more.

Gotta mean something. Either bad for me or good for vag, or both.

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #845 on: December 23, 2010, 07:42:02 pm »
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23 Dec 2010

ME jumps session

Weight@session : 200,5
Injuries/aches : none
Soreness : slight hamstring soreness from RDLs

Jumping on concrete , 10' rim , limited light.

1x3 SVJs : Got 3d knuckle at rim , 10'3'' , 28'' , Season Best!

1x3 dropsteps : 10'7'' easy , got one at 10'7.5'' 32.5'' ,  :personal-record:

hahaha !!!!!!!!!!! sick!!!!! ur drop step is getting beeeast!

sick SVJ too.. 30 SVJ/35 drop step, gotta get that shit!@$@


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3x4 DLRVJs ( mixed runups , 2 to 4 steps ) :

Full runups : best 10'7'' ( 32'' )
Limited runups ( 1 or 2 steps ) : mostly 10'7.5'' , a couple of 10'8'' and one a bit higher , like 10'8.5'' , 33.5'' , Season Best!


aah!!!!!!!!!!

 :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :o :o :o :o :o :o :ibjumping: :ibjumping: :ibjumping: :ibjumping: :highfive: :highfive: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :ibjumping: :ibjumping: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :highfive: :highfive: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :ibjumping: :ibjumping: :ibjumping: :ibjumping: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:

keep this train rollin` mang!@$!

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #846 on: December 24, 2010, 04:17:00 am »
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That's still higher than me, and I'm 10 years younger and squat more.

Gotta mean something. Either bad for me or good for vag, or both.

2 questions:

1) How do i jump higher when my PR is 34,5'' , this season best is 33,5'' and you jumped 36'' a few weeks ago?
2) How do you squat more when you did PRed at 140x1 last week and i PRed at 3x1x145 ?

But lets just say that our numbers are very good for both!  :highfive:  :strong: :ibsquatting:


hahaha !!!!!!!!!!! sick!!!!! ur drop step is getting beeeast!

sick SVJ too.. 30 SVJ/35 drop step, gotta get that shit!@$@

keep this train rollin` mang!@$!

Thanks man!
Yes , looks like it will be easy to get to 33-34 dropstep , the remaining explosive phases + fat loss  should do...
As for SVJ , i don't know , never was able to feel when ill PR on that , it's weird...
350lbs squat + 185-190lbs BW = 30+SVJ , 33-34 dropstep , 35 RVJ. Should be there by late February - early March.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #847 on: December 24, 2010, 04:59:59 am »
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That's still higher than me, and I'm 10 years younger and squat more.

Gotta mean something. Either bad for me or good for vag, or both.

2 questions:

1) How do i jump higher when my PR is 34,5'' , this season best is 33,5'' and you jumped 36'' a few weeks ago?
2) How do you squat more when you did PRed at 140x1 last week and i PRed at 3x1x145 ?

But lets just say that our numbers are very good for both!  :highfive:  :strong: :ibsquatting:

1) I meant off two feet. My PR jump off two feet with runup and everything is 31-32 inches. Off one leg, that's another story.
2) You did? That's great. I'm probably at that level as well if I go balls to the wall. But you still jump more even with that.

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #848 on: December 24, 2010, 05:11:25 am »
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1) I meant off two feet. My PR jump off two feet with runup and everything is 31-32 inches. Off one leg, that's another story.
2) You did? That's great. I'm probably at that level as well if I go balls to the wall. But you still jump more even with that.

LOL , but you're a 1-leg jumper , you can't compare SLRVJs with DLRVJs.
But i get what you're saying , no matter if you're 1-leg jumper squat/BW should have a carryover on DL jumps.
Well , our relative strength is more or less the same , so it's all jumping mechanics etc , that's why my DLRVJ is better ( me being a natural DL-jumper ).
BTW , my SLRVJ right now would be something like 25'' to 27'' , pathetic!  :P
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #849 on: December 24, 2010, 06:40:54 am »
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Actually, I just found this:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LhJL5bUOrY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LhJL5bUOrY</a>

It does seem pretty high, don't know how much but decent.

This one as well...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ykADt4v1jA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ykADt4v1jA</a>

If you could come at my speed (that's slow already) I think you'd go much higher. And I'm not even an efficient jumper.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2010, 06:43:20 am by Raptor »

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #850 on: December 29, 2010, 02:26:31 pm »
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28 December 2010

Jumps/dunks session :

Went to a really nice court, rim looked a bit high , like 10'1'' or so. Was getting 6'' above so 32'' or so. Not sure about the rim height so can't really tell. Good thing was that jumps were easy , explosive and consistent. Left after ~20 max jumps because the court got too packed!
On my way home i found an empty highschool court , threw in some extra jumps there:
Rim looked like 9'10'' or so , was getting steady 1'' below wrist there so 32-ish again. Threw down a couple of dunks , nothing special but always nice to dunk. Jumps still easy/explosive/consistent.
Max height would not dropoff after ~15 jumps/dunk attempts there ( ~35 total ) , but i terminated because shins started bugging a bit.
Very happy with how easy 32'' was and with the consistency , not so happy with the 32'' , wanted higher.

All the other days : sleeping a lot , detraining , eating bad , drinking more etc , oh well , that's Xmas holidays all about :D
« Last Edit: December 29, 2010, 02:39:34 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #851 on: December 30, 2010, 12:56:57 am »
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28 December 2010

Jumps/dunks session :

Went to a really nice court, rim looked a bit high , like 10'1'' or so. Was getting 6'' above so 32'' or so. Not sure about the rim height so can't really tell. Good thing was that jumps were easy , explosive and consistent. Left after ~20 max jumps because the court got too packed!
On my way home i found an empty highschool court , threw in some extra jumps there:
Rim looked like 9'10'' or so , was getting steady 1'' below wrist there so 32-ish again. Threw down a couple of dunks , nothing special but always nice to dunk. Jumps still easy/explosive/consistent.
Max height would not dropoff after ~15 jumps/dunk attempts there ( ~35 total ) , but i terminated because shins started bugging a bit.
Very happy with how easy 32'' was and with the consistency , not so happy with the 32'' , wanted higher.


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All the other days : sleeping a lot , detraining , eating bad , drinking more etc , oh well , that's Xmas holidays all about :D


nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo  :-\

back on track back on track loool.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #852 on: December 30, 2010, 06:23:34 am »
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #853 on: December 30, 2010, 06:37:43 am »
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo  :-\

back on track back on track loool.

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BLASPHEMY :uhhhfacepalm:

LOLLLLL


Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #854 on: January 04, 2011, 04:39:02 am »
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Happy new year everybody!!!  :highfive:

Let's get to business!  ;D
Checking my log here , i see last weights session was 20 December , 2 weeks. Not good , not too bad though.
I am thinking , should i pick my ratio schedule where i left it , or should i hit a couple of sessions to "get back at it" ?
Last session was end of hypertrophy transition phase , according to the plan i gotta do:

Phase 3 : Neutral : [ 1 : 1 : 1 ] x 2
Phase 4 : Peak     : [ 0 : 1 : 1 ] x 3

I think i won't do any 'get back at it' shit , just go by feel on the weights , starting a bit low of course.
I will also expand the Neutral Phase cycles to 4 or 5 , the planned 2 cycles are too few , WTF was i thinking?

Other than that , some main points will be:

- stop bulking.
- put more cardio in , gotta get that bodyfat down.
- replace most carbs with fat ( good fat , mostly extra virgin olive oil and peanuts fat )
- combine the above and let body do what it wants. i expect/hope a slight weight loss but adding strength and maybe lean mass , so major fat loss. Wont let me go below 185 , should be at ~195 or so now.
- keep up with the boring work : core , stretch , grip training.
- more FA work , dropstep ~= rvj currently , that's unacceptable.

The other elements of my training are solid , not changing anything.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2011, 08:37:17 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?