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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #450 on: July 03, 2010, 11:11:59 am »
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3 July 2010

Body measurements
After ~1 month of 2 explosive blocks ( strength-explosive-explosive )

Weight ( in the morning ) :  ~192 , ( -6lbs )
Waist ( navel level , loose) : ~36,2'' , ( -0,4'' )
Thighs ( about 3/4 from knee to hip flexor , flexed) : ~26,4'' , ( +0,2'' )
Hips ( middle of butt , loose ) : ~42,15'' , ( same )
Biceps ( flexed ) : ~16'' , ( +0,25'' )
Calves : 15,35'' , ( +0,2'' )

Bodyfat estimation (online calculator) : ~18,8% ( +0,2% )
Bodyfat estimation (BF measuring scale) : ~16,5% ( -1% )

Green/Red = comparison with previous measurements , green = positive , red = negative

- So i lost 6lbs , waist went down , but every muscle circumference went up! Crazy shit , very happy with those measurements! :D
- The weight/waist/height calculator is once again evidently wrong.

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"Workout"
- "7 Days Vertical Jump Cure" routine.
- My usual lower body stretch routine
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #451 on: July 03, 2010, 03:23:06 pm »
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numbers looking real good, how much have you increased say, thigh, since the start of this initial training cycle? (strength + explosive block)

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #452 on: July 04, 2010, 12:41:59 pm »
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numbers looking real good, how much have you increased say, thigh, since the start of this initial training cycle? (strength + explosive block)

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14 March 2010

Body measurements

Comparison with last measurements in January , when i was also ~1 month away from weight training:

Weight ( in the morning ) :  ~183 , ( -3lbs )
Waist ( navel level , loose) : ~35'' , ( -0,2'' )
Thighs ( about 3/4 from knee to hip flexor , flexed) : ~24,8'' , ( -0,6'' )
Hips ( middle of butt , loose ) : ~39,7'' , ( -0,6'' )
Biceps ( flexed ) : ~15,2'' , ( -0,3'' )
Calves : 14,3'' , ( -0,45'' )

Bodyfat estimation : ~17,5% ( -0% )

My natural built is skinny without muscle.
So now , like always when im away from weights  , im shrinking! :(



That was after last big pause from lifting , this March.
3 days after that i went back to gym.
I did 6 weeks of bulking , and imidiately after that i started the ratio-technique based thing.

So looks like :
+9lbs
+1,2'' waist
+1,6'' thighs
+2,45'' hips
+0,8'' biceps
+1,25'' calves
+1,3%bf

LBM : ~150 ---> ~157

The big consecutive PRs in BSS and calves are more than obvious there , all the others increases look good but just normal...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #453 on: July 04, 2010, 02:26:12 pm »
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4 July 2010

Jump testing/dunk session.
Weight@session : ~195
Stim : just a redbull , was 8pm so didnt want to get too much caffeine...

- 10' dynamic workout.
- low-mid effort jumps

- 3 mins rest

9'10'' jumps:
-1x2 SVJs : 27,5'' - 28,5'' , nice , back to PR levels
-1x2 1-step DLRVJs : 31'' - 32''
-1x2 2-step DLRVJs : 31,5'' - 32,5''
-1x2 DLRVJs : ~32,5''
no dunk attempts.

10' jumps:
-1xdropstep : ~31''
-1x2 2-step DLRVJs : 32'' - 32,5''
-1x3 DLRVJs : ~32,5'' to 33''

10' Dunk attempts:
3x5 : 0/15
Couldn't palm the damn ball , kept slipping away. I was getting up good , grabbing rim on every miss , but the ball kept slipping  :-\
Wanst getting high enough for 2-handers , i need ~10'' above for them , most jumps were in the 33'' area so only ~8'' above.
Got one very nice off the backboard attempt , must have been 33'' to 34'' at the peak, felt all my hand well above rim , caught the ball at the peak, drived it home going down, but was more like a lay in than dunk.
Better luck next time ;)
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #454 on: July 04, 2010, 04:05:27 pm »
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4 July 2010

Jump testing/dunk session.
Weight@session : ~195
Stim : just a redbull , was 8pm so didnt want to get too much caffeine...

- 10' dynamic workout.
- low-mid effort jumps

- 3 mins rest

9'10'' jumps:
-1x2 SVJs : 27,5'' - 28,5'' , nice , back to PR levels
-1x2 1-step DLRVJs : 31'' - 32''
-1x2 2-step DLRVJs : 31,5'' - 32,5''
-1x2 DLRVJs : ~32,5''
no dunk attempts.

10' jumps:
-1xdropstep : ~31''
-1x2 2-step DLRVJs : 32'' - 32,5''
-1x3 DLRVJs : ~32,5'' to 33''

10' Dunk attempts:
3x5 : 0/15
Couldn't palm the damn ball , kept slipping away. I was getting up good , grabbing rim on every miss , but the ball kept slipping  :-\
Wanst getting high enough for 2-handers , i need ~10'' above for them , most jumps were in the 33'' area so only ~8'' above.
Got one very nice off the backboard attempt , must have been 33'' to 34'' at the peak, felt all my hand well above rim , caught the ball at the peak, drived it home going down, but was more like a lay in than dunk.
Better luck next time ;)


sheeeeeeeit.. good session though.. SVJ/RVJ was both very good..

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #455 on: July 05, 2010, 04:29:01 am »
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sheeeeeeeit.. good session though.. SVJ/RVJ was both very good..

Ya , it's 'level up' , i'm there finally , 10'
I could have landed some nice dunks on 9'10'' but suddently didnt care.
When i reach the level of barely dunking a higher rim, i lose interest in improving/doing tricks on lower rims.
Happened from 9'8'' to 9'10''
Now again from 9'10'' to 10'
Forgot to mention : At the end of the session , i tried a dunk on the 9'8'' rim. Just 1 attempt , got a huge dropstep 2 hander , really hard , both wrists above rim. Crazy stim/psycho effect , after ~20 max jumps on 10' , 9'8'' looked like 9'3'' or sth...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #456 on: July 05, 2010, 05:58:11 am »
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sheeeeeeeit.. good session though.. SVJ/RVJ was both very good..

Ya , it's 'level up' , i'm there finally , 10'
I could have landed some nice dunks on 9'10'' but suddently didnt care.
When i reach the level of barely dunking a higher rim, i lose interest in improving/doing tricks on lower rims.
Happened from 9'8'' to 9'10''
Now again from 9'10'' to 10'

ya i feel you on that.. time to land 10' dunks.

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Forgot to mention : At the end of the session , i tried a dunk on the 9'8'' rim. Just 1 attempt , got a huge dropstep 2 hander , really hard , both wrists above rim. Crazy stim/psycho effect , after ~20 max jumps on 10' , 9'8'' looked like 9'3'' or sth...

nice man.. there's some like 10'6 rim around here, i went to it one night when it was raining at the court i wanted to go.. so i found this other park and i airballed a layup and realized this hoop was enormous.. then it started raining there.. so i went to another court.. that 10' hoop felt so small, in my mind, it was the weirdest feeling..

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #457 on: July 05, 2010, 07:23:52 am »
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Forgot to mention : At the end of the session , i tried a dunk on the 9'8'' rim. Just 1 attempt , got a huge dropstep 2 hander , really hard , both wrists above rim. Crazy stim/psycho effect , after ~20 max jumps on 10' , 9'8'' looked like 9'3'' or sth...

nice man.. there's some like 10'6 rim around here, i went to it one night when it was raining at the court i wanted to go.. so i found this other park and i airballed a layup and realized this hoop was enormous.. then it started raining there.. so i went to another court.. that 10' hoop felt so small, in my mind, it was the weirdest feeling..

peace

Word!
On the other park that i do my recovery/conditioning workouts , it only has 1 court , 1 rim there is 10' and the other is ~10'5'' I never jump at the 10'5'' rim though because it intimidates me, LOL!
After yesterday's experience , next time ill try jumping on 10'5'' first , then go to 10'
Not sure if it will work if its "on-purpose" though , but ill give it a try...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #458 on: July 05, 2010, 07:57:42 am »
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why not just jump on 10'5? unless ur a dunker and not a vertbro?
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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #459 on: July 05, 2010, 08:17:20 am »
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why not just jump on 10'5? unless ur a dunker and not a vertbro?

10'5'' looks "too high" , lowers my confidence and eventually i jump lower.

Example:
A bad jump for me is ~30''
Jumping on 10' , 30'' is 5'' above , even though i did a bad jump im still able to grab the rim hard , people around turn their heads , kids go wowww etc , so confidence stays high.
On 10'5'' , with 30'' i will barely touch rim , that doesnt help hyping needed for PR.
Its a mental thing , trying to get as "jacked" as possible. Its also personal , maybe the high rim would work different for someone else , like "pissing" him off so he gets higher...
« Last Edit: July 05, 2010, 08:37:30 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #460 on: July 05, 2010, 02:47:51 pm »
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STRENGTH BLOCK A   :  2:1:0  :  STRENGTH - STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE
STRENGTH BLOCK B   :  2:1:0  :  STRENGTH - STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE
EXPLOSIVE BLOCK A  :  1:2:0  :  STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE - EXPLOSIVE
EXPLOSIVE BLOCK B  :  1:2:0  :  STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE - EXPLOSIVE
PEAK BLOCK              :  0:0:X  :  MSEM
- MSEM - MSEM - MSEM - MSEM
GREEN = DONE


5 July 2010

Weight@session: ~194,5
PEAK BLOCK ,  Workout 'A'

Depth Jumps : skipped because of yesterday's dunks

SQUATS , MSEM , rest between reps ~45'' , rest between sets ~4':
3x1@231 , parallel
3x1@264 , 2-3'' above parallel, hip hurts if i go deeper with heavy load.
264 should be somewhere around 85% 1RM

BSS , MSEM , rest between reps ~30'' , rest between sets ~4':
2x1@242 , PR , previous was 231
2x1@264 :o  :o  :o
SHOCKED!!! 264??? Did them in good form too , free knee touching floor!

CALVE RAISES:
3x12@374
Rest between sets = 1'
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #461 on: July 05, 2010, 03:05:36 pm »
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STRENGTH BLOCK A   :  2:1:0  :  STRENGTH - STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE
STRENGTH BLOCK B   :  2:1:0  :  STRENGTH - STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE
EXPLOSIVE BLOCK A  :  1:2:0  :  STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE - EXPLOSIVE
EXPLOSIVE BLOCK B  :  1:2:0  :  STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE - EXPLOSIVE
PEAK BLOCK              :  0:0:X  :  MSEM
- MSEM - MSEM - MSEM - MSEM
GREEN = DONE


5 July 2010

Weight@session: ~194,5
PEAK BLOCK ,  Workout 'A'

Depth Jumps : skipped because of yesterday's dunks

SQUATS , MSEM , rest between reps ~45'' , rest between sets ~4':
3x1@231 , parallel
3x1@264 , 2-3'' above parallel, hip hurts if i go deeper with heavy load.
264 should be somewhere around 85% 1RM

BSS , MSEM , rest between reps ~30'' , rest between sets ~4':
2x1@242 , PR , previous was 231
2x1@264 :o  :o  :o
SHOCKED!!! 264??? Did them in good form too , free knee touching floor!

CALVE RAISES:
3x12@374
Rest between sets = 1'


congrats on another pr lol.. your bss has blown up.

what's up with the hip? so many people getting hip pain from squatting deep, blah!

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #462 on: July 05, 2010, 03:06:14 pm »
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why not just jump on 10'5? unless ur a dunker and not a vertbro?

10'5'' looks "too high" , lowers my confidence and eventually i jump lower.

Example:
A bad jump for me is ~30''
Jumping on 10' , 30'' is 5'' above , even though i did a bad jump im still able to grab the rim hard , people around turn their heads , kids go wowww etc , so confidence stays high.
On 10'5'' , with 30'' i will barely touch rim , that doesnt help hyping needed for PR.
Its a mental thing , trying to get as "jacked" as possible. Its also personal , maybe the high rim would work different for someone else , like "pissing" him off so he gets higher...


yeah i gotcha. the only heights i have used are 10' and 9'10. i like 10 better but it may only be due to increased room for a runup. idk. i think im the guy who thrives on 10'5 rim. me n adarq find coffee really boosts confidence. so does spinach, it gives me tons of swag.  8)  peace!
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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #463 on: July 05, 2010, 03:11:46 pm »
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STRENGTH BLOCK A   :  2:1:0  :  STRENGTH - STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE
STRENGTH BLOCK B   :  2:1:0  :  STRENGTH - STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE
EXPLOSIVE BLOCK A  :  1:2:0  :  STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE - EXPLOSIVE
EXPLOSIVE BLOCK B  :  1:2:0  :  STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE - EXPLOSIVE
PEAK BLOCK              :  0:0:X  :  MSEM
- MSEM - MSEM - MSEM - MSEM
GREEN = DONE


5 July 2010

Weight@session: ~194,5
PEAK BLOCK ,  Workout 'A'

Depth Jumps : skipped because of yesterday's dunks

SQUATS , MSEM , rest between reps ~45'' , rest between sets ~4':
3x1@231 , parallel
3x1@264 , 2-3'' above parallel, hip hurts if i go deeper with heavy load.
264 should be somewhere around 85% 1RM

BSS , MSEM , rest between reps ~30'' , rest between sets ~4':
2x1@242 , PR , previous was 231
2x1@264 :o  :o  :o
SHOCKED!!! 264??? Did them in good form too , free knee touching floor!

CALVE RAISES:
3x12@374
Rest between sets = 1'


congrats on another pr lol.. your bss has blown up.

what's up with the hip? so many people getting hip pain from squatting deep, blah!

Thanks man!
I don't know whats wrong with it , i mentioned it long time ago.
It seems pretty similar to  Spike's thing , also yours from last year
3'' above felt nice though , gonna keep it like that and see how it goes...
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: vag's journal : Age vs Vertical
« Reply #464 on: July 05, 2010, 06:10:13 pm »
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STRENGTH BLOCK A   :  2:1:0  :  STRENGTH - STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE
STRENGTH BLOCK B   :  2:1:0  :  STRENGTH - STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE
EXPLOSIVE BLOCK A  :  1:2:0  :  STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE - EXPLOSIVE
EXPLOSIVE BLOCK B  :  1:2:0  :  STRENGTH - EXPLOSIVE - EXPLOSIVE
PEAK BLOCK              :  0:0:X  :  MSEM
- MSEM - MSEM - MSEM - MSEM
GREEN = DONE


5 July 2010

Weight@session: ~194,5
PEAK BLOCK ,  Workout 'A'

Depth Jumps : skipped because of yesterday's dunks

SQUATS , MSEM , rest between reps ~45'' , rest between sets ~4':
3x1@231 , parallel
3x1@264 , 2-3'' above parallel, hip hurts if i go deeper with heavy load.
264 should be somewhere around 85% 1RM

BSS , MSEM , rest between reps ~30'' , rest between sets ~4':
2x1@242 , PR , previous was 231
2x1@264 :o  :o  :o
SHOCKED!!! 264??? Did them in good form too , free knee touching floor!

CALVE RAISES:
3x12@374
Rest between sets = 1'


congrats on another pr lol.. your bss has blown up.

what's up with the hip? so many people getting hip pain from squatting deep, blah!

Thanks man!
I don't know whats wrong with it , i mentioned it long time ago.
It seems pretty similar to  Spike's thing , also yours from last year
3'' above felt nice though , gonna keep it like that and see how it goes...

ya :/ adam from TVS too.. and a few other people.. adam's form was damn near perfect too.

squatting above parallel definitely helped it.. it would flare up rarely but usually other stuff would contribute to that.. if i went below parallel even by an inch it would flare up instantly, so above parallel became my savior, that and unilaterals.

peace man