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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #390 on: February 18, 2018, 04:47:10 am »
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Cold is worse today. Lots of pressure behind my eyes, it feels like.  :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: just wanna be healthy and run around.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #391 on: February 19, 2018, 07:15:43 am »
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19-02-18

Workout

Run ~9.35mi in 1:24:06 [most splits ~9:10 pace, miles 7 & 8 were ~8:35 and mile 9 was ~7:55]

Notes

GPS data looks all kind of messed up for this run, so I've subtracted a little from what Strava/Garmin say to get my estimate of the distance. The map of my run doesn't show the entirety of my movement from about 1.5 miles until 4.5 miles!? Maybe rain was fucking with stuff. I hope it's that rather than my watch being dumb.

Cold feels basically better. Didn't want to push out too far since it's not yet 100%.

Left calf wicked tight this arvo.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #392 on: February 19, 2018, 01:32:42 pm »
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19-02-18

Workout

Run ~9.35mi in 1:24:06 [most splits ~9:10 pace, miles 7 & 8 were ~8:35 and mile 9 was ~7:55]

Notes

GPS data looks all kind of messed up for this run, so I've subtracted a little from what Strava/Garmin say to get my estimate of the distance. The map of my run doesn't show the entirety of my movement from about 1.5 miles until 4.5 miles!? Maybe rain was fucking with stuff. I hope it's that rather than my watch being dumb.

Cold feels basically better. Didn't want to push out too far since it's not yet 100%.

Left calf wicked tight this arvo.

aaah wicked tight, fuck. let it recover, trust me. don't run through "wicked tight" calves, it can turn out ugly. hopefully it's back to normal tomorrow or the day after.

nice about the cold & that run, but sh*t @ wicked tight calf.

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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #393 on: February 20, 2018, 05:01:14 am »
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20-02-18

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This calf thing is odd. It's not straightforward tightness, I guess. Like I have similar ROM to usual. However, some movements cause a weird semi-painful sensation where I guess the gastroc ends behind the knee. This happens primarily when my knee bends while my foot is dorsiflexed. Definitely not running today. Will do chins+pushups and such later.

Edit: googling suggests might be related to the popliteus muscle, which in turns can be related to IT band stuff. Hmmm, hopefully just something that passes quickly.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #394 on: February 20, 2018, 11:53:45 am »
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20-02-18

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This calf thing is odd. It's not straightforward tightness, I guess. Like I have similar ROM to usual. However, some movements cause a weird semi-painful sensation where I guess the gastroc ends behind the knee. This happens primarily when my knee bends while my foot is dorsiflexed. Definitely not running today. Will do chins+pushups and such later.

Edit: googling suggests might be related to the popliteus muscle, which in turns can be related to IT band stuff. Hmmm, hopefully just something that passes quickly.

yea I think i've had that popliteus crap several times, it's no joke. Don't F with it. You're not going to lose anything by playing it safe, even for a week. I think most times when I talk about that tightness behind my knee, it's popliteus related.

sounds like you are experiencing something very similar to what i've experienced. I know for a fact that I hurt it way back when doing hill sprints out of nowhere, way too much volume. That wrecked it. But, i've also hurt it several times afterwards, on both knees, by overstretching or stretching "weird" (locking leg out too much while doing standing hamstring stretches) etc.

hoping it passes quickly but, that weird "thickness" behind the knee definitely improves after a few days rest, unless it's at chronic levels. So should be alot better in a few days. Whatever you do, don't overstretch it! IMHO, don't stretch it at all.. lmao. Seems to just make it worse.

also, i've had it quite a few times, so i'm proof that it goes away .. but I tried to train through it once and really jacked myself up, took months to recover.

my 2cents based on similar experiences with that.

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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #395 on: February 21, 2018, 09:25:31 am »
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20-02-18

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This calf thing is odd. It's not straightforward tightness, I guess. Like I have similar ROM to usual. However, some movements cause a weird semi-painful sensation where I guess the gastroc ends behind the knee. This happens primarily when my knee bends while my foot is dorsiflexed. Definitely not running today. Will do chins+pushups and such later.

Edit: googling suggests might be related to the popliteus muscle, which in turns can be related to IT band stuff. Hmmm, hopefully just something that passes quickly.

yea I think i've had that popliteus crap several times, it's no joke. Don't F with it. You're not going to lose anything by playing it safe, even for a week. I think most times when I talk about that tightness behind my knee, it's popliteus related.

sounds like you are experiencing something very similar to what i've experienced. I know for a fact that I hurt it way back when doing hill sprints out of nowhere, way too much volume. That wrecked it. But, i've also hurt it several times afterwards, on both knees, by overstretching or stretching "weird" (locking leg out too much while doing standing hamstring stretches) etc.

hoping it passes quickly but, that weird "thickness" behind the knee definitely improves after a few days rest, unless it's at chronic levels. So should be alot better in a few days. Whatever you do, don't overstretch it! IMHO, don't stretch it at all.. lmao. Seems to just make it worse.

also, i've had it quite a few times, so i'm proof that it goes away .. but I tried to train through it once and really jacked myself up, took months to recover.

my 2cents based on similar experiences with that.

peace!!

That ll makes a lot of sense to me. It's feeling a lot better today, and I haven't really noticed it. Will still take today off and then go for an easy ~5mi tomorrow. I think this is just a lesson that adding long runs and tempo work at the same time just a bit much. I'll keep max run lengths down for a while, I think, for now. Still building strength.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #396 on: February 22, 2018, 06:02:44 am »
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22-02-18

Workout

Run -- 4.6mi in 38:54 [8:34, 8:12, 8:21, 8:31, 8:42 pace]

Notes

Tailwind out, headwind back on this one. Knee/calf thing seems fine. Noticed it very mildly towards end of run, but no clicking, pain or sensation when walking up stairs/bending knee, so I'm hopeful. Shall see what's what tmrw.

Average pace sub 8:30 and avg HR sub 150, that's a nice and new combo.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #397 on: February 22, 2018, 03:21:53 pm »
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22-02-18

Workout

Run -- 4.6mi in 38:54 [8:34, 8:12, 8:21, 8:31, 8:42 pace]

Notes

Tailwind out, headwind back on this one. Knee/calf thing seems fine. Noticed it very mildly towards end of run, but no clicking, pain or sensation when walking up stairs/bending knee, so I'm hopeful. Shall see what's what tmrw.

Average pace sub 8:30 and avg HR sub 150, that's a nice and new combo.

good news all around!! nice.

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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #398 on: February 23, 2018, 06:54:24 am »
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23-02-18

Workout

Run - 5.19mi in 44:48 [8:27, 8:47, 8:38, 8:29, 8:43]

Notes

Another solid easy run. Legs a little tired from yesterday so it felt a bit tougher despite HR being same/slightly lower overall.

Rest tomorrow. Got a busy weekend including long run w/ friends. Want to be in a good way going into that run since I don't want to get hurt.

I think I still have a lot of gains to be made from 45-60 min runs so probably won't actually be including weekly ~90 min runs on my own for a while. Fastest way to progress is avoiding injuries!
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #399 on: February 25, 2018, 04:15:31 pm »
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25-02-18

Workout

Big run with fast friends -- 10.08mi in 1:18:24 [7:41, 7:14, 7:28, 7:22, 8:01, 7:54, 7:50, 8:20, 8:09, 7:50]

Avg HR - 175bpm [oof!]

Notes

Well that was exhausting. Weekend as a whole was crazy tiring as I had 1.5 full days of quiz competition, then this afternoon I ran this w/ some fast friends. One is in the midst of his marathon training and his easy runs are usually around 6:40 pace, so he graciously kept it very easy to let me keep up. I was able to talk basically the way through this run except during a very large and steep hill in mile 4 despite the high heart rate. I am already hella sore, haha, so taking some days off now will probably be necessary. Amazing to me that these guys do this as a very easy run, haha, but I'll get there soon! Was pretty enlivening and fun even if I'm wrecked now, haha.

Also featured a 10k PR -- 47:40. Best one prior to this was 52:32, and that run was pretty much 10k flat, didn't tack on another 6k after. A lot of this was through grass and, on occasion, quite rough mud too. Gonna get a huge boost from this I reckon!

Weekly volume PR, too, with 29.4 miles. So close to the big 30. Next week probably gonna be a bit chiller, probs mid 20s, but we'll see.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #400 on: February 25, 2018, 10:39:53 pm »
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damn! that is a big run.  :ibrunning:
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #401 on: February 26, 2018, 11:19:13 am »
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damn! that is a big run.  :ibrunning:

Yeah, was intense. I'm really feeling it today. Lacking sleep both Friday and Saturday night plus those fulls days of competition and that big run has left me totally sapped today. Legs are pretty sore too, oof.

Mega rest day, haha.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #402 on: February 27, 2018, 05:37:09 am »
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27-02-18

Run -- 5.35mi in 48:26 [8:12, 8:45, 9:11, 9:36, 9:14, 9:50 pace]

Notes

Legs still absolutely fried after Sunday's run. When I'm fully recovered from it / when all the training effects from that run have been integrated it's gonna be huge. Until then I am a broken man hobbling around, haha.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #403 on: February 27, 2018, 08:38:16 pm »
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lmao you forgot to mention the vegan burger .. worthy of an edit :D

we talked on FB but ya worth mentioning on here, absolutely awesome long run, especially considering the pre-run debacle :ninja: :ninja: :ninja: :headbang: :ibrunning:

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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #404 on: February 28, 2018, 06:14:28 am »
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28-02-18

Workout

Run -- 5.25mi in 47:46 [8:59, 9:13, 8:53, 9:08, 9:19, 9:08 pace]

Notes

Running in sub-zero celcius in and on snow. Was pretty fun once I got the hang of it. Did loops in a park since I figured the snow would be a bit safaer there than running on road or whatever.

Legs still very sore, though started to feel better towards the end of today's run.

And lol @ adarq, i'll type that up here later today. dunno how it slipped my mind when I first wrote up the workout -- was probably just to wiped to remember much of anything
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