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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1230 on: May 29, 2025, 03:49:17 pm »
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29-05-25

Run--
w/u
2 x (11' on / 90" off) [4:33, 4:30]
c/d

Total -- 7.6k, 40:30

+ Chins and dips afterwards

Notes

Legs _still_ sore from Monday, kinda crazy. Less volume here in hopes I can actually be recovered for Saturday.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1231 on: May 30, 2025, 03:32:20 pm »
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30-05-25

Run -- 5.88k, 40:21

Notes

Avg HR 119 lmao. Legs just feeling dead despite what HR metrics saying. Hamstrings still kinda sore. Maybe the 8k extra steps per day from commuting are taking more of a toll than expected, b/c training load this week has ben pretty light.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1232 on: May 31, 2025, 06:54:25 am »
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31-05-25

Parkrun 5k -- 20:06 [3:53, 3:58, 4:07, 4:10, 3:55] according to watch, 20:03 according to Parkrun officially.

Ran to and from the race as well (4.5, about 28 mins each), so 14k total and ~75 mins running, not bad. Will still do an easy 80 mins tomorrow probably.

Notes

Felt good. Tried my hardest not to go out too hard, and knew I was aiming for 20 or so given training and such, and felt good on the day. So hard to find that pace when you don't train it. Was 5 laps of a small park and 600+ people, so I think Ks 3+4 being slow is also partly explained by being bad at dealing with weaving through a big crowd.

Quite a funny course, you run up a like 5% grade hill for 500m, then gain back all that altitue with a 250m downhill, then flat for 250m, then repeat 5x. Makes pacing weird. (GAP/Coros effort pace both give me "3:57 pace" fwiw)

Anyway, was super fun, and really nice to do it with buddies. Turns out I over-estimated the fitness of the others so I actually was the first finisher.

Not used to racing so I think effort wise I definitely left something on the table. That'll come with practice. Everyone had fun and the others do Parkruns pretty regularly, so hopefully I'll improve the mental game with more reps with the boys.

Vindication that my training paces are on point, though, had worried the reason I was feeling cooked this week was that I'd been using too fast paces.

Max HR was 190 (from chest strap), seems plausible given it was ~195 7 years ago. Will adjust some stuff based on that (more w/r/t expectations, don't really use it for pacing).

Eta: same training pace calculator says my easy pace shd be 5:55 to 6:15...lol I just never have it in me to do that in the morning. Plus adjustment for zoom fly 6 vs easy shoe
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1233 on: June 01, 2025, 06:29:43 am »
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01-06-25

Run -- 12.37k, 12:20:46

Lift --

1A Chin
+30x9 +15x8 +BWx6, 6

1B Dip
+30x5 +15x6 +BWx6, 5

RDL
150 x 5, 3

Zercher
100 x 7, 6

2A Wide-Grip Barbell Row
80 x 8, 6

2B Deficit Decline Pushup
BW x 15, 11

Lateral Raise
20 x 12+8+6+5

Notes

Not as sore as I expected today. And pace/hr combo was solid on the run. Exactly 70% max HR, so on point for proper easy effort, and 6:30 instead of my usual 6:50.

Redcued leg lifting volume to hopefully avoid that cooked feeling from last week.

Exactly 1 minute more running that last week, but 1.7k more (and ~10% higher "load" according to intervals.icu)

Remain baffled by how I ran that 19:16 back in 2018. I can look at the training through intervals.icu and it was just way less. Like 3 or 4 days most weeks. I guess I was doing the easy runs at a harder effort. Probably some portion is explain by it being at 12:30, on an easier course and with less traffic than this last one, but still, don't think I could hit that in perfect conditions right now despite way more training under my belt (and having modern zoom fly 6 now vs zoom fly knits then). I refuse to accept age as an explanation, before anyone proffers that. Anyway, I reckon I can go sub 19 before too long if I keep training like this.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1234 on: June 02, 2025, 03:38:58 pm »
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02-03-25

Run -- 7.55k, 50:01

Notes

bit faster, HR Avg 132, seems more like it.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1235 on: June 03, 2025, 04:57:52 pm »
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03-06-25

Run --
w/u
5 x (6' on, 1' off) [4:34, 4:26, 4:24, 4:24, 4:26]
c/d

10.35k, 54:50 total

Notes

Solid. Might finally try running home from work tmrw just to mix things up.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1236 on: June 04, 2025, 04:26:22 pm »
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04-06-25

AM --
1a Chin
30x9+15x8+BWx10,+7

1b Dip
30x5+15x6+BWx6+5

2a Wide-Grip BB Row
80 x 8, 6

2b Decline Deficit Pushup
BW x 16, 12

Lateral
20x13+9+6+4

PM --
Run 7.25k, 46:30

Notes

Woke up before my alarm but too late to do a meaningful run, so go that quick lifting session in.

Run-commute okay, though the first ~2k or so involved a lot of people dodging and waiting at traffic lights (though only ~90s of paused watch time total, so not too bad). Just felt _very polluted_ to be breathing heavily running along some major arterial city roads. Will keep it in the pocket to do now and then though.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1237 on: June 05, 2025, 07:46:03 am »
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is there a way to use back roads, even if it's significantly longer? the few times i've run-commuted, i can take a slightly longer route that ends up on a paved running/biking trail. much more tolerable than the most direct route.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1238 on: June 05, 2025, 03:57:34 pm »
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05-06-25

Run
w/u
3 x (10' on / 90" off) [4:37, 4:30, 4:37]
c/d

9k, 48:00 total

Notes

The slightest bit of adductor funk on the right side. Was super rainy and I was running late, so I just wanted to get this done asap so first rep was begun only 6 mins into the run. I am generally a warmup sceptic, but perhaps a chilly rainy day is a time to extend rather than cut short warmups. Lesson learned.

is there a way to use back roads, even if it's significantly longer? the few times i've run-commuted, i can take a slightly longer route that ends up on a paved running/biking trail. much more tolerable than the most direct route.

Oh yeah I deliberately took the straightshot route just to see what the shortest possible time would be. Think the first 10 mins of the run are going to involve people dodging more or less no matter what, just in virtue of my office's location. The remainder of the run was chill, though as I said somewhat polluted. Not really any options to avoid pollution other than maybe canals/towpaths, but those tend to be jammed with cyclists at commuting times so not sure that improves anything. River possible but probably doubles the distance, and I like being home early.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1239 on: June 06, 2025, 04:09:53 pm »
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06-06-25

Run -- 7.91, 53:04

Notes

Not adductor issues, so yeah just a sign to warmup for more than 5 mins lol.

Will probably try to do leg lifting tmrw, i.e. same day as session, so that there's two days of easy (L+E) for legs to recover properly before next session.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1240 on: June 07, 2025, 08:05:11 am »
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07-06-25

Run --
w/u
10 x (3' on / 1' off) [avg for reps: pace - 4:13; HR - 156; max HR - 168]
c/d

Total -- 11.54k, 1:02:37

chill like 30 mins

Lift --

1A Chin
30 x 9, 7, 5 + BW x 10

1B Dip
20 x 8, 7, 5 + BW x 5

RDL
150 x 5, 4

Zercher
120 x 4, 3

2A Wide-Grip BB Row
80 x 9, 8

2B Incline Fly
17.5 x 10, 8

3A Lateral Raise
17.5 x 14, 10, 8, 6

3B Hammer Curl
17.5 x 7, 5, 4

Notes

Running RPE was like 3-4/10. Felt like I could keep going at that pace indefinitely. First rep was 4:22 as I was feeling it out, and the rest were all 4:11-4:14 pretty much. Guess this is the difference between (a) rolling out of bed, going to the bathroom, drinking a glass of water and starting the run vs (b) getting an extra hour of sleep, having my breakfast smoothie, chilling for an hour then going when I feel ready. Plus also fitness.

Max HR of 168 shows it was very controlled, since that's like 87% max hr, so almost certainly sub LTHR. IIRC, LTHR for running is usually ~87-90% of max HR (so ~167-173 for me). However, the wizardry of intervals.icu insisted that, based on maintaining an avg of 181 for >20 mins during my 5k race, my LTHR cannot be below 177. Tbh based on feel, I think 170 is closer to reality. Ah well doesn't really matter, key is that I am pretty sure that (a) I did not overcook this workout and (b) I do not think I am generally overcooking workouts. Better to go too easy than too hard esp when you're within the ballpark.

Did 8 of the reps on the crappy cinders track in the park that LBSS may recall. Half clockwise half widdershins. The bend of the track has an adverse camber (worse on one of the bends than the other). During the clockwise reps, the right adductor expressed mild displeasure when turning with the adverse camber. Not surprising, since in general my right leg seems to get annoyed when the ground is uneven such that it is higher on the right than the left. Got genuinely 0 idea about what course of action that suggests, and it's never an issue, but I defo do find myself trying to keep right on flat or marginally lower ground when I have the option.

Lifting solid. Might reduce weight slightly on RDLs, just not getting the ROM I want post-run when tired and stiff.

ETA: May experiment with exercises (1) and (3) from this insta post:
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1241 on: June 08, 2025, 07:37:51 am »
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08-06-25

Run -- 12.53k, 1:22:12

Notes

66k, 6:37 time on feet this week. Nice.

 Mixing units, but that's the first 40 mile week I've ever done. No deliberate effort to extend things, just got a bit more efficient with morning routine so those runs had the space to be a bit longer. No plans to extend things either, for a while, just settle here and see what happens.

Maybe I'll take the long run out to 90-100 mins now and then. I'm nominally training for a half in October (though really just training to be faster generally without any peaking in mind), so makes sense for LR to be at least as long as I am aiming to do that in (1:25-1:30 I guess  I'm thinking atm, since those map to ~18:30-19:30 5k, which I think given my training/current rate of improvement is a reasonable range to expect to be in).

Noticed that sometimes my HR Strap disconnects from watch if I wait to long to start. Wonder if that happened at the 5k (was like 20 mins milling around between arriving and starting the race, and I don't remember if I checked to re-pair the strap) and if so if the HR reading I got from that race is just stride-locked nonsense. Coros app a bit opaque when it comes to telling you whether a device was connected for a give neffort, as far as I can tell so far.

ETA: Average 3450 kcal last week and that was enough to maintain weight. That said, even with cereal, nut butter, smoothies, and biscuits that's just a lot of effort and a bit of a struggle digestion-wise. Might just go with the grace of god and return to appetite-based eating and just ride this where it takes me. Shouldn't lose too much muscle given I'm still keeping up a reasonable effort lifting wise.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1242 on: June 10, 2025, 03:40:42 pm »
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09-06-25

Run -- 7.10k, 49:17

10-06-25

Run -- 7.61k, 42:09

Notes

Yesterday fine, HR never got above 130. Today's run was grim. Had Dr's appt in morning so ran home. Bag was fuller/heavier than expected and just felt crappy. Ran like tempo-effort for like ~5.5k in the middle since I knew I wasn't getting a subT in today. Was pretty warm and I just felt sweaty and gross, and it took ages to cool down/get relaxed after I got home.

Glad to get it in, but not so fun lol.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1243 on: June 11, 2025, 02:07:38 pm »
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11-06-25

1A Chinup
30x9 + 15x6 + BWx idk lost count but like 6 sets

1B Dip
20x8 + 15x5 + BWx idk lost count but like 6 sets

Lateral
17.5 x idk a bunch of sets + 5x20

Notes

Just did sets of dips and chins until I couldn't do 3 full reps of chins. Took a while.

First day without a run since 12 May (and 28 April the last before that). Just needed a lie-in this morning. Then decided to prioritise lifting this evening. Sesh tmrw I guess.
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Re: warpspeed to the new scenario
« Reply #1244 on: June 12, 2025, 03:41:48 pm »
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12-06-25

Run --
w/u
3 x (10' on / 1' off) [4:29, 4:31, 4:31]
c/d

9.87k, 52:22

Notes

Solid. HR avg 163 for last 2 reps, peaking like 167, so well under control. Same HR, faster on a hotter day (tho dry instead of rain). Probs just explained by being comparatively rested this time but still, it's nice. 29 C tmrw apparently, oof.
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