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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Last post by LBSS on June 23, 2025, 05:10:19 pm »damn it, the more i read about it, the more it seems like norwegian singles is where it's at. i don't see why it wouldn't work even for ultra training, since the point is to limit day-to-day fatigue and so there should still be space for progressively longer runs once a week. something like what joe is doing:
with warm up and cool down those workout days would be 10.5-11.5 km, medium days are already 10-11 and could gradually build up to 13-14 (that was the plan anyway) and long run could just keep building bit by bit toward 42 until the 50k at end of october. that would mean weekly mileage starting around 70kpw and going up to 100kpw, give or take. and do weights on one of the easy weekdays in addition to the saturday.
ultra people talk about the importance of back-to-back long days but i feel like if i build up to a full marathon long run before the 50k, race the 50k, and then taper down to the 50 miler, that should be plenty. finishing 50 miles just doesn't seem that daunting. and wouldn't getting up at 6 AM to do a 3x10 less than 24 hours after finishing a long run serve the same purpose, pretty much?
pros:
1. lots of running but with variety
2. many people reporting great fitness gains
3. would enable me to keep working on sub-ultra fitness while building long distance fitness
cons:
1. i'm getting too cute, progressing volume and one speed workout a week plus tempo sometimes on saturdays will build fitness, too.
2. i'm going to have a hard time sticking to a routine where i work out every day.
3. it is too fucking hot out.
- monday: 3x10min @MP
- tuesday: medium/easy
- wednesday: 5 x 6min @HMP (with the group but doing my own thing)
- thursday: medium/easy
- friday: 10 x 3min @15kP
- saturday: weights
- sunday: long/easy, as much as possible on trails
with warm up and cool down those workout days would be 10.5-11.5 km, medium days are already 10-11 and could gradually build up to 13-14 (that was the plan anyway) and long run could just keep building bit by bit toward 42 until the 50k at end of october. that would mean weekly mileage starting around 70kpw and going up to 100kpw, give or take. and do weights on one of the easy weekdays in addition to the saturday.
ultra people talk about the importance of back-to-back long days but i feel like if i build up to a full marathon long run before the 50k, race the 50k, and then taper down to the 50 miler, that should be plenty. finishing 50 miles just doesn't seem that daunting. and wouldn't getting up at 6 AM to do a 3x10 less than 24 hours after finishing a long run serve the same purpose, pretty much?
pros:
1. lots of running but with variety
2. many people reporting great fitness gains
3. would enable me to keep working on sub-ultra fitness while building long distance fitness
cons:
1. i'm getting too cute, progressing volume and one speed workout a week plus tempo sometimes on saturdays will build fitness, too.
2. i'm going to have a hard time sticking to a routine where i work out every day.
3. it is too fucking hot out.