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Performance Area => Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion => Topic started by: J-DUB on July 27, 2011, 01:47:44 am
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$ick3nin.v3nd3tta, you have been taking shots at adarqui about his vert, yet no one knows anything about YOUR stats, you have no log, or pics, or VIDS. You claim to be a sprinter, where do you compete and what are your official times? POST UP OR GET YOUR WEAK IDIOTIC ASS OFF THIS FORUM.
ps. youre a fucking moron. Nearly every post of yours is complete trash, its great that everyone else on here already knows youre a complete joke and doesnt take you seriously, but lately you have been getting even more annoying with your stupid ass posts.
POST UP MAKESMESIKVENDETTA
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I'm here for the lolz & lulz.
Not takin' life to seriously.
Just chillin'.
ya but at least post your stats bro
i talked to my uncle who actually road in tour de france, he said you're full of shit about the pedal stroke shit.
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I'm here for the lolz & lulz.
Not takin' life to seriously.
Just chillin'.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DONT REALLY COMPETE, YOURE A FUCKING MORONIC INSANE RETARD, AND YOURE HERE FOR US TO KEEP LAUGHING AT YOU.
GOT IT.
NOW PLEASE CONTINUE BEING A STUPID FUCKING RETARD SO THAT WE CAN LAUGH OURSELVES TO SLEEP.
YOUMAKEMESICKVENDETTA, YOU REALLY DO.
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I'm here for the lolz & lulz.
Not takin' life to seriously.
Just chillin'.
ya but at least post your stats bro
i talked to my uncle who actually road in tour de france, he said you're full of shit about the pedal stroke shit.
Original Link: http://cozybeehive.blogspot.com/2006/10/what-muscles-are-you-using-to-pedal.html
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I'm out. Much love, keep doing your thing, keep working, go get your damn goals man, that's what it's all about, self improvement.
I love you all.
pc.
can you make a youtube vlog discussing that diagram? it's too confusing for me.
what you mean you're out? jdub ran you off adarq.org wtf?
jdub you're an annoying little pest.
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I'm here for the lolz & lulz.
Not takin' life to seriously.
Just chillin'.
ya but at least post your stats bro
i talked to my uncle who actually road in tour de france, he said you're full of shit about the pedal stroke shit.
Original Link: http://cozybeehive.blogspot.com/2006/10/what-muscles-are-you-using-to-pedal.html
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_urSQl6wUA5g/SB0yQDOnDpI/AAAAAAAABy0/VDTTiIv_860/s1600/pedalstroke_large.gif)
I'm out. Much love, keep doing your thing, keep working, go get your damn goals man, that's what it's all about, self improvement.
I love you all.
pc.
man up...............................................a little troll ran you outta here.....
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Everyone needs to calm down
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J-DUB is annoying. $ick, you better not be gone for good cuz of him
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jdub you're an annoying little pest.
dude, jdub, you need to take a hard look at yourself. i haven't exactly been following your posts but this is about as mean as adarq gets on here.
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jdub you're an annoying little pest.
dude, jdub, you need to take a hard look at yourself. i haven't exactly been following your posts but this is about as mean as adarq gets on here.
i agree!...i wish someone would try and run that dude out...vendetta tries to add to discussion and so on...j-dub is just stupid...a complete troll
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jdub you're an annoying little pest.
dude, jdub, you need to take a hard look at yourself. i haven't exactly been following your posts but this is about as mean as adarq gets on here.
i agree!...i wish someone would try and run that dude out...vendetta tries to add to discussion and so on...j-dub is just stupid...a complete troll
Who the heck is J-Dub? I only know J-Dumb.
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jdub you're an annoying little pest.
dude, jdub, you need to take a hard look at yourself. i haven't exactly been following your posts but this is about as mean as adarq gets on here.
i agree!...i wish someone would try and run that dude out...vendetta tries to add to discussion and so on...j-dub is just stupid...a complete troll
relax, vendetta wasn't doing so well either....
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Anybody who is overly opinionated tends to hinder the processes devoted to rational and sane thought.
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Sickenin does the name JC Cooper ring a bell?? I read elitetrack articles quite frequently and I had a hunch it was you but your post about the combine, comparing verts and the 40 yard dash definitely confirms it. Also your infamous posts on the spine and its significance in sprinting. You have some interesting ideas man but it seems like the more knowledgeable guys on there make good arguments against them. Especially your spine as the engine claim.
But can you please post your sprint times and sprint history?
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What's this "spine" thing you're talking about?
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The video about the cheetah and its spine is interesting
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How can the observation that the cheetah can artificially "lengthen" its limbs by flexion / extension of the spine be conveyed to human running? That only works when sprinters would suddenly decide to use their arms to run as well.
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How can the observation that the cheetah can artificially "lengthen" its limbs by flexion / extension of the spine be conveyed to human running? That only works when sprinters would suddenly decide to use their arms to run as well.
because humans run on all fours, or something......................................................... :uhhhfacepalm:
perhaps we should look at an animal which locomotes (lmao) in the standing position.. such a a kangaroo.. brb sprinting bilaterally.
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brb sprinting bilaterally.
That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.
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brb sprinting bilaterally.
That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.
That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.
(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).
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It's actually a weird, illogical movement. What does coordination have to do with something that we're not naturally built to do? Jumping should be done unilaterally because we move unilaterally.
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uhhhhhhh.. we're built to move exactly how we move.. bilateral jumping is very natural.
FUCKING COME ON PEOPLE (raptor).
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FML :uhhhfacepalm:
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One bilateral jump takes about 10 times the effort I need to jump off one leg. Totally ineffective, in terms of everything else than force (slower speeds, worse leverages, harder on joints (yes, the one leg jump is smooth and without that much joint shock, in the bilateral jump there's a HUGE perpendicular to the ground (more or less) BRUTAL SHOCK in a successful DLVJ), more effort needed and so on and so forth).
You people need to start bouncing around instead of walking and running if two footed stuff is such a good and efficient movement.
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One bilateral jump takes about 10 times the effort I need to jump off one leg. Totally ineffective, in terms of everything else than force (slower speeds, worse leverages, harder on joints (yes, the one leg jump is smooth and without that much joint shock, in the bilateral jump there's a HUGE perpendicular to the ground (more or less) BRUTAL SHOCK in a successful DLVJ), more effort needed and so on and so forth).
You people need to start bouncing around instead of walking and running if two footed stuff is such a good and efficient movement.
stop trying to act like sickenin vendetta.
what you just said is stupid, let's please stop comparing humans to cheetahs and horses.
the amount of time and force you can produce during a single leg SVJ is much worse than with two legs.. the human body works the way it does because it's fucking meant too.
sickenin vendetta is making this forum fucking retarded with his horseshit, no pun intended.
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You guys failed to understand what I was getting at.
Humans have the ability to decompress there spines too.
What happens during decompression?.
Go back to Reply #18.
where's the "spinal decompression", i can't find it.
super slow motion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf12x5WSLN8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EwlymfYS2I&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhcGCGyqBVc
etc
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You guys failed to understand what I was getting at.
Humans have the ability to decompress there spines too.
What happens during decompression?.
Go back to Reply #18.
where's the "spinal decompression", i can't find it.
super slow motion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf12x5WSLN8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EwlymfYS2I&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhcGCGyqBVc
etc
How do you not see bolt on all fours that whole race, EXACTLY like the cheetah and horse in those clips? its plain as day blu.
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How do you not see bolt on all fours that whole race, EXACTLY like the cheetah and horse in those clips? its plain as day blu.
+1 lol. ;D
You don't have to get on all fours though.
Humans have the ability to decompress there spines too.
Obviously your not looking out for the same amount of spinal decompression as the cheetah.
It's far less in humans.
A good example of spinal decompression, Asafa at 1:22.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu2GejA49AY
Bolt's is even more evident as his spine is more flexible, but you need to slow down the video's to the right speed & get the right angle.
can please provide screenshots blu?
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brb sprinting bilaterally.
That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.
That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.
(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).
I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.
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brb sprinting bilaterally.
That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.
That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.
(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).
I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.
that isn't natural blu, we are unilateral creatures blu.
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wtf is "blu", i don't get it
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brb sprinting bilaterally.
That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.
That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.
(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).
I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.
that isn't natural blu, we are unilateral creatures blu.
After my 3rd knee surgery on my left knee I had to reduce the amount I jumped off one footed. It was only natural for me to adapt and become a better 2 footed jumper. So the first 16 years of my life, off 1 foot, the next 5 or so off two foot. The last 3 or so I've done both pretty darn well. They both feel completely natural in different situations that they are required for. Just sayin'.
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brb sprinting bilaterally.
That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.
That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.
(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).
I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.
that isn't natural blu, we are unilateral creatures blu.
Well duh, finally. Thank you.
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brb sprinting bilaterally.
That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.
That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.
(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).
I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.
that isn't natural blu, we are unilateral creatures blu.
After my 3rd knee surgery on my left knee I had to reduce the amount I jumped off one footed. It was only natural for me to adapt and become a better 2 footed jumper. So the first 16 years of my life, off 1 foot, the next 5 or so off two foot. The last 3 or so I've done both pretty darn well. They both feel completely natural in different situations that they are required for. Just sayin'.
ya i was kidding mang.. hah
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brb sprinting bilaterally.
That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.
That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.
(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).
I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.
that isn't natural blu, we are unilateral creatures blu.
After my 3rd knee surgery on my left knee I had to reduce the amount I jumped off one footed. It was only natural for me to adapt and become a better 2 footed jumper. So the first 16 years of my life, off 1 foot, the next 5 or so off two foot. The last 3 or so I've done both pretty darn well. They both feel completely natural in different situations that they are required for. Just sayin'.
ya i was kidding mang.. hah
Gah, there's no telling anymore. Someone really needs to create a sarcasm font.
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brb sprinting bilaterally.
That's why for me - jumping off two has never been natural. When you walk/run you don't bounce on two feet. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "step" on one leg to me. And we're built to move unilaterally.
That's why for me- jumping off one leg has never been natural. When you jump/squat you don't bounce on one foot. Jumping is just an exaggerated, longer "jump squat" on two feet to me. And we're built to jump bilaterally.
(I actually jump off 1 foot as well, but jumping off 2 never felt natural to you because you are uncoordinated, not because it's a weird movement).
I jump off both 1 and 2 feet pretty darn good. Both feel completely natural. Maybe I'm just uber-coordinated.
that isn't natural blu, we are unilateral creatures blu.
After my 3rd knee surgery on my left knee I had to reduce the amount I jumped off one footed. It was only natural for me to adapt and become a better 2 footed jumper. So the first 16 years of my life, off 1 foot, the next 5 or so off two foot. The last 3 or so I've done both pretty darn well. They both feel completely natural in different situations that they are required for. Just sayin'.
ya i was kidding mang.. hah
Gah, there's no telling anymore. Someone really needs to create a sarcasm font.
good idea blu
:)
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After watching the Asafa and cheetah videos, I think what SV is getting at(and I may be entirely wrong), is having your lower back/sacrum/pelvis area round slightly in order to increase stride length.
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You guys failed to understand what I was getting at.
Humans have the ability to decompress there spines too.
What happens during decompression?.
Go back to Reply #18.
where's the "spinal decompression", i can't find it.
super slow motion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf12x5WSLN8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EwlymfYS2I&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhcGCGyqBVc
etc
^Perhaps MattyG, hold on one sec...
Go back to the first link adarq posted. Watch ASAFA: There is CLEARLY a head bobbing motion going on. In asafa it is the most pronounced, but if you look at Bolt you will see it during his start, and in the second part of the video/race.
I've done this myself, neck flexion in midair, then neck swings up/back a bit during leg extension and ground contact. MY HYPOTHESIS IS THAT YOU CAN ONLY DO THIS HEAD BOBBING AT SLOW STRIDES IN HUMANS. Both Asafa and Bolt have a slow stride rate. If you look at Tyson yo don't see any of this head bobbing.
My stride rate is fast, and I don't head bob. But when I'm just striding for practice, I can do this head bobbing thing. It doesn't make me faster though, just would give me neck cramps if I tried. maybe I should do plyometrics with my neck. I'm being serious actually because I think the neck bobbing does have an impact in slower stride rates. It's just awkward and probably bad for your brain to bob your head when you're striding as fast as Tyson.
Spinal decompression probably happens anyway without the head bobbing, but I don't understand how it could be the main reason why Bolt is the fastest human being, since asafa is clearly running this way as well and Tyson usually beats him. Well maybe Tyson's spine compresses too.
SO back to MattyG, this rounding thing you're seeing, is the neck flexion, conciding with knee extension in mid-air to prepare for powerful ground contact.
Speaking of POWER, this spinal decompression thing may be more relevant to more powerful activities, such as jumping.
Watch Aarik Wilson TJing, he has a mad head bob during his run, which is probably a lot slower than any elite sprinter, strides are slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR6F2sgfLUc&feature=relmfu
Here is Carl Lewis, check out the extra head bobbing in the penultimate step
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Sg_kACPRM
Again from personal experience, just today even, my head bobs were mad powerful during a heavy squat jump, deep with just 135 lbs. To lift it faster I had to flex at the neck (head bringing down closer to chest), then pop up as the bar goes up.
Ca'nt find any good VJ vids, but how many of you look down slightly before jumping? In 1 footed Vj looking down in the penultimate helps me the most. If I look up the whole time that would not work, with 1 or two.
I hope this fosters some discussion, this should not be ignored