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Title: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 05, 2012, 07:33:52 pm
The start line of the final race was filled with people who all had the capability of getting under 10s.

One person yohan blake who beat bolt in the trials, tyson gay and asafa powell, ryan "the giant" bailey (my nickname for him)
of usain bolt.

but what the outcome was, lets just say how could anyone have doubted this guy. but there was also drama at the end.
another injury brought the jamaican legend sprinter asafa powel out of medal places.

i feel sorry for the guy, he has never won an olympic medal.

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LONDON (Reuters) - Jamaica's Asafa Powell remains the nearly man of sprinting after pulling up injured in the Olympic 100 metres final won by compatriot Usain Bolt on Sunday.

Powell got a good start and was in contention at halfway but he suddenly slowed and jogged across the line in 11.99, over two seconds behind the seventh-placed finisher Richard Thompson of Trinidad & Tobago.

Meanwhile, Bolt, who ran an Olympic record of 9.63, was already on his victory lap with his training partner Yohan Blake, second in 9.75.

Powell dropped to one knee and looked at the result showing on the big screen just above the brightly burning Olympic flame. He was the only man not to break 10 seconds.

As 80,000 people chanted 'Usain, Usain' and the stands flickered with the light of camera flashes, Powell quietly disappeared into the bowels of the stadium to face the waiting media.

"I injured myself. It felt good being out there in the final but I wanted to do something different. I injured my groin," Powell told reporters, the disappointment clearly etched on his face.

The sight of Bolt's back has taunted Powell since his younger rival burst on to the scene in 2007.

Powell has held the world record and is the most prolific sub-10 seconds sprinter of all time but the only individual medals he has from the major championships are world bronzes from 2007 and 2009.

That and his fifth-placed finishes at the 2004 and 2008 Olympics raised questions about Powell's mental strength but he told reporters before the Shanghai Diamond League meeting in May he had pinpointed the problem.

The 29-year-old may have cured any mental fragility but that cannot be said of his body.

Powell missed the 2011 world championships with a groin injury and pulled out of the London Grand Prix last month with a similar problem.

He has previously said he has no plans to retire and has not ruled out racing on until the 2016 Games in Brazil. His body, however, may have other ideas.

(Editing by Ed Osmond)

The Results.

        1   2170   JAM BOLT Usain   9.63    OR
    2   2169   JAM BLAKE Yohan   9.75    =PB
    3   3216   USA GATLIN Justin   9.79    PB
    4   3217   USA GAY Tyson           9.80    SB
    5   3205   USA BAILEY Ryan   9.88    =PB
    6   2547   NED MARTINA Churandy   9.94    
    7   3051   TRI THOMPSON Richard   9.98    
    8   2184   JAM POWELL Asafa   11.99
         
I wish him the best and hope a gold medal in the future if his body can handle it.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: Raptor on August 05, 2012, 07:57:40 pm
So Asafa would beat me bad even though he ran half the race with a groin injury?
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: AGC on August 05, 2012, 09:05:15 pm
Yeah I've always liked Asafa and his running style. I really wanted him to sneak up and get bronze over Gatlin and Gay. Hopefully he can reload for the WCs next year, but I can't see him ever beating Bolt or Blake now. Blake is the only threat to Usain but he's still metres away from him when Bolt turns it on.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: Raptor on August 06, 2012, 06:03:27 am
I wonder if Asafa will be available for the 4x100m relay.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: Mikey on August 06, 2012, 06:28:48 am
I was going for Tyson Gay. It's bad luck he only got 4th but he had an injury interrupted season and wasn't at his peak so it was always going to be difficult for him to win. I think USA are going to win the 4x100 if Asafa doesn't run though. At the US trials they had like 4 or 5 guys in the trial run sub 10. I think their team gonna be Gay, Gatlin, Bailey and Doc Paton.
I'm also looking heaps forward to the 200 and 400. In the 400 Steve Solomon qualifed for the final, which is the first time an Aussie male has run in a 400 olympic final in like 24 years.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: LBSS on August 06, 2012, 07:35:13 am
Yeah I've always liked Asafa and his running style. I really wanted him to sneak up and get bronze over Gatlin and Gay. Hopefully he can reload for the WCs next year, but I can't see him ever beating Bolt or Blake now. Blake is the only threat to Usain but he's still metres away from him when Bolt turns it on.

NO! USA NUMBER ONE!
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: AGC on August 06, 2012, 08:08:47 am
Yeah I've always liked Asafa and his running style. I really wanted him to sneak up and get bronze over Gatlin and Gay. Hopefully he can reload for the WCs next year, but I can't see him ever beating Bolt or Blake now. Blake is the only threat to Usain but he's still metres away from him when Bolt turns it on.

NO! USA NUMBER ONE!

Negged for that? Ouch!
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: Raptor on August 06, 2012, 09:05:59 am
USA lost with all its steroid abuse. Nothing to see here people!
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: LBSS on August 06, 2012, 12:01:51 pm
USA lost with all its steroid abuse. Nothing to see here people!

(http://www.deviantart.com/download/203853522/homer__usa_number_one_by_leeroberts-d3ddadu.png)
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: vag on August 06, 2012, 07:35:53 pm
USA lost with all its steroid abuse. Nothing to see here people!

(http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f2/783648d1344217567-olympics-watch-watch-yohan-blake-dscn0476.jpg)

looks 100% natural bro, i bet he is on paleo diet...
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: Raptor on August 06, 2012, 07:42:03 pm
USA lost with all its steroid abuse. Nothing to see here people!

(http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f2/783648d1344217567-olympics-watch-watch-yohan-blake-dscn0476.jpg)

looks 100% natural bro, i bet he is on paleo diet...

He does crossfit.

But I bet Bailey and Gatlin are clean as heck! I mean, they're vegans.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 07, 2012, 11:12:40 am
Yeah I've always liked Asafa and his running style. I really wanted him to sneak up and get bronze over Gatlin and Gay. Hopefully he can reload for the WCs next year, but I can't see him ever beating Bolt or Blake now. Blake is the only threat to Usain but he's still metres away from him when Bolt turns it on.

Blake would be able to beat bolt if he is able to improve on his pb time up to 9.6.

Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: LBSS on August 07, 2012, 01:03:14 pm
Yeah I've always liked Asafa and his running style. I really wanted him to sneak up and get bronze over Gatlin and Gay. Hopefully he can reload for the WCs next year, but I can't see him ever beating Bolt or Blake now. Blake is the only threat to Usain but he's still metres away from him when Bolt turns it on.

Blake would be able to beat bolt if he is able to improve on his pb time up to 9.6.



hahaha, what? if you mean this the way it came across, it's the dumbest tautology i've read all day. NEWSFLASH: IF YOHAN BLAKE BECOMES FASTER THAN USAIN BOLT, HE WILL BE ABLE TO BEAT HIM IN A RACE.

also, are you not aware that blake has beaten bolt twice this year?
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: LBSS on August 07, 2012, 01:04:19 pm
I was going for Tyson Gay. It's bad luck he only got 4th but he had an injury interrupted season and wasn't at his peak so it was always going to be difficult for him to win. I think USA are going to win the 4x100 if Asafa doesn't run though. At the US trials they had like 4 or 5 guys in the trial run sub 10. I think their team gonna be Gay, Gatlin, Bailey and Doc Paton.
I'm also looking heaps forward to the 200 and 400. In the 400 Steve Solomon qualifed for the final, which is the first time an Aussie male has run in a 400 olympic final in like 24 years.

i'd hate on him for finishing last, but no americans qualified for the final so i can't. USA #9!
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: Mikey on August 07, 2012, 01:35:17 pm
I was going for Tyson Gay. It's bad luck he only got 4th but he had an injury interrupted season and wasn't at his peak so it was always going to be difficult for him to win. I think USA are going to win the 4x100 if Asafa doesn't run though. At the US trials they had like 4 or 5 guys in the trial run sub 10. I think their team gonna be Gay, Gatlin, Bailey and Doc Paton.
I'm also looking heaps forward to the 200 and 400. In the 400 Steve Solomon qualifed for the final, which is the first time an Aussie male has run in a 400 olympic final in like 24 years.

i'd hate on him for finishing last, but no americans qualified for the final so i can't. USA #9!

Yeh I thought LeShawn Merritt was gonna be the man to beat but than he ended up getting injured so USA chance of medalling in 400m was pretty much gone after that.
Solomon came last but it's better coming last in a final than not running in a final at all:P

Check this graph out it's pretty cool.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/08/05/sports/olympics/the-100-meter-dash-one-race-every-medalist-ever.html?smid=fb-share
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 08, 2012, 10:19:42 am
Yeah I've always liked Asafa and his running style. I really wanted him to sneak up and get bronze over Gatlin and Gay. Hopefully he can reload for the WCs next year, but I can't see him ever beating Bolt or Blake now. Blake is the only threat to Usain but he's still metres away from him when Bolt turns it on.

Blake would be able to beat bolt if he is able to improve on his pb time up to 9.6.



hahaha, what? if you mean this the way it came across, it's the dumbest tautology i've read all day. NEWSFLASH: IF YOHAN BLAKE BECOMES FASTER THAN USAIN BOLT, HE WILL BE ABLE TO BEAT HIM IN A RACE.

also, are you not aware that blake has beaten bolt twice this year?

i forgot to add  :P. Nevermind, He was able to beat bolt in the trials but has never beaten him in a major championship.
That's when it matters to him.

others he tries enough to qualify, he didn't really care.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: Guga on August 11, 2012, 11:05:01 pm
Im not very sure but, from the vids it looks like gatlin and blake legs movement are faster than bolt; but Bolt being taller gets and advantage for all the steps he gives.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: Raptor on August 12, 2012, 07:35:46 am
I think Bolt also has to do less work considering that his strides are so much longer, so he does less strides per 100m than the others.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: TKXII on August 12, 2012, 11:48:33 am
Gatlin is my hero. Glad he got a medal.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: Raptor on August 12, 2012, 12:12:41 pm
Gatlin is my hero. Glad he got a medal.

You mean Will Smith?
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: TKXII on August 13, 2012, 11:30:52 pm
umm.. maybe..not very good with media-related jokes
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: Raptor on August 14, 2012, 08:11:48 am
Com'on... Gatlin looks like a combination of Will Smith and Josh Smith
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: TKXII on August 14, 2012, 09:59:20 am
Im not very sure but, from the vids it looks like gatlin and blake legs movement are faster than bolt; but Bolt being taller gets and advantage for all the steps he gives.

gatlin ran the 100 in 42.5 strides, 1.5 more than bolt, he was known for taking huge strides too
http://www.icharts.net/chartchannel/chart/2012/size-does-matter
- i hope that above link is true though, because I haven't been able to watch a high quality video and count the strides myself.


THis year as indoor champion in the 60, Gatlin did 6.46  it in 27.5, I think I've seen a video where he did 60 in 26, but I can't find it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TrHCkEqfDI

However blake beat gatlin in 46 strides to his 42.5.

edit:
#Invalid YouTube Link#
yep 42.5ish strides for gatlin.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: TKXII on August 14, 2012, 10:02:06 am
Com'on... Gatlin looks like a combination of Will Smith and Josh Smith

Hmm, I didn't know who josh smith was but gatlin definitely looks like josh smith.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: T0ddday on August 14, 2012, 04:41:38 pm
The start line of the final race was filled with people who all had the capability of getting under 10s.

One person yohan blake who beat bolt in the trials, tyson gay and asafa powell, ryan "the giant" bailey (my nickname for him)
of usain bolt.

but what the outcome was, lets just say how could anyone have doubted this guy. but there was also drama at the end.
another injury brought the jamaican legend sprinter asafa powel out of medal places.

i feel sorry for the guy, he has never won an olympic medal.


Asafa has a gold medal from the 4x100 in 2008.
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: T0ddday on August 14, 2012, 05:00:46 pm
Im not very sure but, from the vids it looks like gatlin and blake legs movement are faster than bolt; but Bolt being taller gets and advantage for all the steps he gives.

This is one of the biggest misconceptions that's repeated over and over by the media as an attempt to somehow describe Bolt.  Yes, Bolt's strides are longer than the other athletes.  But his advantage in stride length is largely a result of his superior power that he applies to the track and not simply because he is taller.  Ryan Bailey is pretty tall as well... how come he doesn't have this advantage over Tyson Gay?  

Bolt's main advantage is his otherwordly top-end speed.  If you watch any major final (2008,2009 worlds, etc) you will notice that when the athletes hit max V (around 65-70m) Bolt seems to pull away from the entire field.  If it was simply larger steps as a result of being taller then he would maintain an incremental advantage after each step that would grow linearity throughout the race...  Instead Bolt is incredibly elastic and able to continue to apply force despite extremely small ground contact times and reach a just ridiculous speed that nobody else can match.  The next two guys who come closest to applying this force and hitting high max V are two of the shorter athletes (gay and blake [gay was injured but watch 2009]), the other tall athletes (Bailey, Powell actually have pretty poor max V).

Stride frequency (legs movement) really has little bearing on sprinting speed.  Obviously shorter guys will have to reposition their legs at a faster rate than tall guys when moving at the same speed... but most world class sprinters have stride frequency which isn't much better than an amateur runner.  A simple towing drill really proves this: attach a band to a  stretched resistance band to a low level athlete and pull them forward as they run and they will have a stride frequency much greater than that of any elite athlete.... The problem isn't that they can't reposition their legs fast enough it's that they can't create enough force to get them going fast enough to need to reposition their legs that fast!  


***Note, while the point of this post is that Bolt's advantage isn't stride length as a result of his height.... that's not to say that those extremely long lever arms don't help him generate force... Additionally, remember that this is true largely for the short distance sprints.  In the 400m and especially 800m where ground forces have to be limited to avoid fatigue, exaggerated stride lengths of taller runners may provide an advantage.

If you really interested heres a paper:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11053354
Title: Re: 100m final london olympics 2012
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 15, 2012, 06:02:49 am
The start line of the final race was filled with people who all had the capability of getting under 10s.

One person yohan blake who beat bolt in the trials, tyson gay and asafa powell, ryan "the giant" bailey (my nickname for him)
of usain bolt.

but what the outcome was, lets just say how could anyone have doubted this guy. but there was also drama at the end.
another injury brought the jamaican legend sprinter asafa powel out of medal places.

i feel sorry for the guy, he has never won an olympic medal.


Asafa has a gold medal from the 4x100 in 2008.

I was referring to the individual races