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Ben Patrick (Knees Over Toes Guy) podcast

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CoolColJ:
Nice podcast - some of his concepts have served me well

http://jackedathlete.com/podcast-15-ben-patrick-knees-over-toes-guy/



--- Quote ---“If you jack up your tibialis, VMOs, hamstrings… your knees are gonna be a lot more protected for basketball.”

“Weak knees don’t come from weak hips. They come from too strong of hips relative to how strong your knees are.”

Knee Strength Measure: ATG-style Split Squat. Hamstring cover the calves without the back knee touching the floor.

Hip Strength Measure: Seated Good Morning. Abs to bench, thigh and torso in line.

“The higher the Seated Good Morning over the Split Squat, the less your knee can handle relative to hip.”

“Simply by increasing that muscle tissue (calves, quads, hamstrings, glutes), they’ll have more potential to jump high.”

Three Pillars: 1) Strength 2) Technique of Jumping and 3) Elasticity

“I think anybody can get to a 40-inch vertical with those three.”

“Anyone who can do 10,000 pain-free jumps with maximal intent, you might be able to get to a 40-inch vertical off that alone.”

“A lot of guys, from sprinting alone, will develop their hip flexors. But some guys, their hip flexors are too dang weak, they’re never gonna run fast until they jack up their hip flexors.”

“I think it’s one of the strongest bulletproofing things you can do is dunk with either hand and be able to land either leg first. I fixed so many cases of Jumper’s Knee with that alone.”

“If some dude is already jumping in his sport hundreds of times a week, I can do slow strength work and he’ll find I can jump higher because that’s his weak end of the spectrum (structure and strength).”

Why high rep: “A lot of guys… they’re not actually gonna be able to push their muscle to get stronger because the joint pain is gonna be in the way.”

“Charles Poliquin taught me that VMO is isolated in the very bottom 10 degrees and the very top 10 degrees.”

“For hip flexors, the simplest is to build where you can do a floor L-Sit off the ground (30 seconds).”

“I think most guys are in this state where they’re never really producing adaptation and they’re never really recovering from their shitty workouts.”

“My #1 strategy for getting an athlete conditioned: Let’s get you more athletic”

Ben Patrick on Instagram

Website for Athletic Truth Group
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His YouTube channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGybO-bWZ3W6URh42sdMQiw

ChrisM:
Ben and ATG have ABSOLUTELY helped my knee issues. While I'm not jumping as high as I have at my peak (age and most notably reps) there's no way I would be moving like I am today without them!

Coges:
Everyone knows I love Ben and have been an ATG member since December 2018. My single biggest takeaway from everything he does is that your potential is unlimited if you can get pain free and remain pain free.

Same as Chris here too. The only reason I'm still playing ball is due to Ben. My knees don't hurt at all these days. Now if I can get my ankles to the same state I'd be happy.   

CoolColJ:
My knees feel pretty good now from his ideas - I do my own take on them like backwards walking up a 30-40 degree slope for 2-3 mins everyday.
My left knee has cartilage damage but it no longer hurts when I squat or jump.
Legs just feel so strong all round, when causally getting off a chair/ground on the balls of my foot with knees well over toes - something I used to dread doing!

So have my ankles - it took time but it did improve from ankle circles, wall tib raises, and general mobility work
The scar tissue eventually breaks up and goes away

I'm 49 years old and believe my best is yet to come - just by being able to train and jump on a consistent basis without pain, or fear of it!
When you get to my age, most people are just too broken down to do anything like this

It's just my left shoulder - I need something like this for my left shoulder :)
It has improved from all the stuff I do, but it's a lot of guess work


Coges:

--- Quote from: CoolColJ on April 28, 2020, 05:16:49 am ---Legs just feel so strong all round, when causally getting off a chair/ground on the balls of my foot with knees well over toes - something I used to dread doing!

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Yes this ^^^

That's my litmus test. When I squat down I still cringe when I have to stand back up but it never hurts anymore.

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