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is bragging about box jump numbers stupid?

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2010, 06:29:57 am »
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KNEELING POWER CLEANS
KNEELING SNATCH

I've read the book these two lifts/jumps came from...i think I remember them being prep exercises for the snatch and C&J, nothing more than that. typical America for you though, lets find something odd/new (which isn't new at all) endorse the hell out of it and take the industry by strom

and why just extend at the hips and not the knee and ankle like most jumping?

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2010, 06:51:18 am »
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KNEELING POWER CLEANS
KNEELING SNATCH

I've read the book these two lifts/jumps came from...i think I remember them being prep exercises for the snatch and C&J, nothing more than that. typical America for you though, lets find something odd/new (which isn't new at all) endorse the hell out of it and take the industry by strom

and why just extend at the hips and not the knee and ankle like most jumping?


ya, that's exactly what they were used for.. just a progression for learning the oly's, now look, they are utilized in every 'performance gym' around the US.. all they do is waste time, unless it's part of an oly learning progression.

that 45 year old housewife should do some kneeling oly's, you should suggest that to your instructor.. haha

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2010, 03:13:25 pm »
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probably addin some more fuel to the fire, but here is my  :rant:

everytime i see box jumps done it's usually some trainer at the gym or one of my coaches

the look dangerous at the heights that ppl try to do it at

i really don't think it's better than just doing a standing jump

I see ppl all the time jumping them trying to show off

they hurt my knees for some reason, either landing wrong or something

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2010, 05:06:22 pm »
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probably addin some more fuel to the fire, but here is my  :rant:

everytime i see box jumps done it's usually some trainer at the gym or one of my coaches

the look dangerous at the heights that ppl try to do it at

i really don't think it's better than just doing a standing jump

I see ppl all the time jumping them trying to show off

they hurt my knees for some reason, either landing wrong or something

box jumps generally are very easy on the knees, except if you wipeout, then they are very risky.. but in general, you're jumping up and ONTO a box, that's a very low force absorption when you land.

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2010, 09:51:12 pm »
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probably addin some more fuel to the fire, but here is my  :rant:

everytime i see box jumps done it's usually some trainer at the gym or one of my coaches

the look dangerous at the heights that ppl try to do it at

i really don't think it's better than just doing a standing jump

I see ppl all the time jumping them trying to show off

they hurt my knees for some reason, either landing wrong or something

box jumps generally are very easy on the knees, except if you wipeout, then they are very risky.. but in general, you're jumping up and ONTO a box, that's a very low force absorption when you land.

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except for when you land in that horrid deep squat position that all the JA's do on youtube.

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2010, 10:42:28 pm »
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Personally I find box jumps kind of impressive, it takes alot of balls to jump onto a ~60-65+ inch box fully knowing that there is high possibility of eating shit and hurting yourself.... The real skill in it is being able to get your knees past your face..

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2010, 11:21:20 pm »
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Personally I find box jumps kind of impressive, it takes alot of balls to jump onto a ~60-65+ inch box fully knowing that there is high possibility of eating shit and hurting yourself....

ya i'll give you that.. i respect the athletes who go ME on box jumps, especially on stacked metal boxes, but I think the ones coaching them to do it are usually pretty stupid for prescribing ME box jumps, especially when they then use box jump numbers to show "performance enhancement" <-- hey go F yourself people, you know who you are.


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The real skill in it is being able to get your knees past your face..

haah truth.

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2010, 01:37:24 am »
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somebody doesn't learn....
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pause at :30, how could you possibly think that was going to end well?
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lots of potential hurt here
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2010, 02:31:43 am »
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I forgot about this gem



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7986lssoJCQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7986lssoJCQ</a>

Stats as of October 15, 2010
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weight: ~153 lbs
height: 5'7", 5'8" with shoes
reach: 7'5.5" in shoes
svj: 30 (vertec)
rvj: 35 (vertec) ~36 (dunk)
full squat 1rm: 315 (msem) ~325 (estimate)

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2010, 07:46:46 am »
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I forgot about this gem



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7986lssoJCQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7986lssoJCQ</a>



HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHA. What the fuck is going on there?
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2010, 08:13:15 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHUzEeqFdg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHUzEeqFdg</a>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHUzEeqFdg
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2010, 11:25:35 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvqs7-0QeZI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvqs7-0QeZI</a>

Box jumps like these still impress the hell outta me ^_^

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2010, 12:25:42 am »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHUzEeqFdg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHUzEeqFdg</a>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHUzEeqFdg

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2010, 01:17:47 am »
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Hey Lance,

Weren't you talking to Louie Simmons about box jumping and all the guys at WSB who box jump but can't vertical jump?  I remember reading an article you wrote about that but I don't remember all the details... Have you ever met Dave Tate?  He seems like a cool guy...

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2010, 01:32:33 am »
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Hey Lance,

Weren't you talking to Louie Simmons about box jumping and all the guys at WSB who box jump but can't vertical jump?  I remember reading an article you wrote about that but I don't remember all the details... Have you ever met Dave Tate?  He seems like a cool guy...

  Yea, Ive had a few conversations with Louie about jump training and he kept referring to how high different guys could box jump, or with what weight they could jump from a kneeling positon to a stand, what weight dumbells they could hold while jumping on a box, etc.  He really didnt ever test a true vertical jump and I referenced the fact that in college, alot of my teamates that could box jump the best had some of the lowest vertical jumps on the team.   That was really the extent of what I was saying in that post you are talking about, box jumping does not correlate well with vertical jumping at all and it is a horrible way to try and improve it.  

   Never met Dave Tate but there is a picture of him jumping on a box somewhere in this thread.
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