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is bragging about box jump numbers stupid?

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ok so crossfit claims a "world record 56 inch box jump".. listen, congrats to the guy and i share his love of jumping, but box jumps suck and if I were the world leader I would ban them from youtube/video.

http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/007017.html <-- world record link


for example, the 56" world record is a sub 30" vert most likely:




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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2010, 12:55:49 am »
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the only one that can brag about box jumps is frank yang because his standing vert was 40, he is 5'9 or shorter, and he did 60+ inch box jumps... unfortunately, people seem to care more about their box jump numbers than their actual vert numbers, when in reality their gains in box jump height is from practice and/or flexibility gains..

stupid idiots.

i hate box jumps.

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2010, 01:17:40 am »
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the only one that can brag about box jumps is frank yang because his standing vert was 40, he is 5'9 or shorter, and he did 60+ inch box jumps... unfortunately, people seem to care more about their box jump numbers than their actual vert numbers, when in reality their gains in box jump height is from practice and/or flexibility gains..

stupid idiots.

i hate box jumps.


same plus they seem super dangerous but  look at this video

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwUzbbqQAbU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwUzbbqQAbU</a>

idk about frank's vert though..i don't trust those mat things..did he ever have a vertec and get 40? if so please excuse my stupidity...but still higher than mine...def. 35+

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2010, 01:21:05 am »
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x2(to Adarqui) I have been explaining this over and over in my life and people still dont grasp the concept.  In college the guy who had the highest box jump had the 2nd lowest vertical jump on our team.  He would routinely show people that he could jump (since he couldnt dunk the ball) by taking them to the field house and jumping on 48 inch + boxes. Neat.  BOXES ARE FOR JUMPING OFF OF!
« Last Edit: July 25, 2010, 01:22:48 am by LanceSTS »
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2010, 02:08:08 am »
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but wait!!! what if you had to jump over some1 in football??? box jump comes in handy!! haha

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2010, 10:16:27 am »
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This is one thing that I think Vern Gambetta gets right. His thing is basically that box jumps are fine and all cause you can get a max jump onto them with the impact of landing, work on pure explosiveness and whatever. But if you go much above 30", even for the best jumpers, you're just practicing/demonstrating core strength, hip mobility and balance on the landing. And there are much better ways to do all of those things.
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2010, 04:01:47 pm »
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This is one thing that I think Vern Gambetta gets right. His thing is basically that box jumps are fine and all cause you can get a max jump onto them with the impact of landing, work on pure explosiveness and whatever. But if you go much above 30", even for the best jumpers, you're just practicing/demonstrating core strength, hip mobility and balance on the landing. And there are much better ways to do all of those things.

ya i'm fine with box jumps used as an assistance exercise to vert, you can minimize landings from VERT-ADA-HEIGHT by landing on the box.. they are also good for hip flexors.. i'd say you can go above 30" though depending on your vert.. I mean if your vert is nasty high, you could use 42" boxes etc.. but the thing is, you have to land without forcing yourself into the most insane hip mobility contortionist possible.



take dallas robinson for example:

that stupid loser took down his training mix.. bleh.. anyway he was jumping onto 42" boxes, landing very decent in a half squat position.. his SVJ is 42".



as opposed to, crossfit box jumping "landing":


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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2010, 04:06:55 pm »
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hahahahahaha!!
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2010, 04:11:59 pm »
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This is one thing that I think Vern Gambetta gets right. His thing is basically that box jumps are fine and all cause you can get a max jump onto them with the impact of landing, work on pure explosiveness and whatever. But if you go much above 30", even for the best jumpers, you're just practicing/demonstrating core strength, hip mobility and balance on the landing. And there are much better ways to do all of those things.


Agree 100%.  Used correctly they can be a good intro to plyos or low impact dynamic/rfd exercise.  Its just when people repeatedly max out on them, doing primarily box jumps, it starts to encourage incomplete hip extension since there is such a rush to pull the knees up. 
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2010, 09:50:20 pm »
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see, here's a good box jump, 50 inches..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5RPwaOa13A" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5RPwaOa13A</a>

that's legit.

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2010, 06:27:14 pm »
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Thanks for saying this Andrew.  I couldn't agree more!  They are a stupid exercise and I have NEVER programmed them into any athletes training.
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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2010, 06:39:08 pm »
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Thanks for saying this Andrew.  I couldn't agree more!  They are a stupid exercise and I have NEVER programmed them into any athletes training.

np man!

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2010, 12:55:15 am »
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man i hate box jumps..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXYPJOyoywM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXYPJOyoywM</a>


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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2010, 05:28:43 am »
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look at his hips,they only raise a few inches

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Re: BOX JUMPS ARE STUPID - STOP BRAGGING AND DO A REAL VERT, BITCHES
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2010, 05:42:27 am »
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look at his hips,they only raise a few inches

yup, nothing to brag about.. bragging about sloppy box jumps bugs me so much, i need to get a life.

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