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Performance Area => Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion => Topic started by: adarqui on July 25, 2010, 12:51:01 am
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ok so crossfit claims a "world record 56 inch box jump".. listen, congrats to the guy and i share his love of jumping, but box jumps suck and if I were the world leader I would ban them from youtube/video.
http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/007017.html <-- world record link
for example, the 56" world record is a sub 30" vert most likely:
(http://i26.tinypic.com/ae2wj7.png)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/vcuz39.png)
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the only one that can brag about box jumps is frank yang because his standing vert was 40, he is 5'9 or shorter, and he did 60+ inch box jumps... unfortunately, people seem to care more about their box jump numbers than their actual vert numbers, when in reality their gains in box jump height is from practice and/or flexibility gains..
stupid idiots.
i hate box jumps.
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the only one that can brag about box jumps is frank yang because his standing vert was 40, he is 5'9 or shorter, and he did 60+ inch box jumps... unfortunately, people seem to care more about their box jump numbers than their actual vert numbers, when in reality their gains in box jump height is from practice and/or flexibility gains..
stupid idiots.
i hate box jumps.
same plus they seem super dangerous but look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwUzbbqQAbU
idk about frank's vert though..i don't trust those mat things..did he ever have a vertec and get 40? if so please excuse my stupidity...but still higher than mine...def. 35+
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x2(to Adarqui) I have been explaining this over and over in my life and people still dont grasp the concept. In college the guy who had the highest box jump had the 2nd lowest vertical jump on our team. He would routinely show people that he could jump (since he couldnt dunk the ball) by taking them to the field house and jumping on 48 inch + boxes. Neat. BOXES ARE FOR JUMPING OFF OF!
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but wait!!! what if you had to jump over some1 in football??? box jump comes in handy!! haha
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This is one thing that I think Vern Gambetta gets right. His thing is basically that box jumps are fine and all cause you can get a max jump onto them with the impact of landing, work on pure explosiveness and whatever. But if you go much above 30", even for the best jumpers, you're just practicing/demonstrating core strength, hip mobility and balance on the landing. And there are much better ways to do all of those things.
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This is one thing that I think Vern Gambetta gets right. His thing is basically that box jumps are fine and all cause you can get a max jump onto them with the impact of landing, work on pure explosiveness and whatever. But if you go much above 30", even for the best jumpers, you're just practicing/demonstrating core strength, hip mobility and balance on the landing. And there are much better ways to do all of those things.
ya i'm fine with box jumps used as an assistance exercise to vert, you can minimize landings from VERT-ADA-HEIGHT by landing on the box.. they are also good for hip flexors.. i'd say you can go above 30" though depending on your vert.. I mean if your vert is nasty high, you could use 42" boxes etc.. but the thing is, you have to land without forcing yourself into the most insane hip mobility contortionist possible.
take dallas robinson for example:
that stupid loser took down his training mix.. bleh.. anyway he was jumping onto 42" boxes, landing very decent in a half squat position.. his SVJ is 42".
as opposed to, crossfit box jumping "landing":
(http://www.icc-convention.com/mongneu1.jpg)
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hahahahahaha!!
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This is one thing that I think Vern Gambetta gets right. His thing is basically that box jumps are fine and all cause you can get a max jump onto them with the impact of landing, work on pure explosiveness and whatever. But if you go much above 30", even for the best jumpers, you're just practicing/demonstrating core strength, hip mobility and balance on the landing. And there are much better ways to do all of those things.
Agree 100%. Used correctly they can be a good intro to plyos or low impact dynamic/rfd exercise. Its just when people repeatedly max out on them, doing primarily box jumps, it starts to encourage incomplete hip extension since there is such a rush to pull the knees up.
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see, here's a good box jump, 50 inches..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5RPwaOa13A
that's legit.
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Thanks for saying this Andrew. I couldn't agree more! They are a stupid exercise and I have NEVER programmed them into any athletes training.
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Thanks for saying this Andrew. I couldn't agree more! They are a stupid exercise and I have NEVER programmed them into any athletes training.
np man!
cya
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man i hate box jumps..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXYPJOyoywM
(http://i37.tinypic.com/33esr3r.png)
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look at his hips,they only raise a few inches
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look at his hips,they only raise a few inches
yup, nothing to brag about.. bragging about sloppy box jumps bugs me so much, i need to get a life.
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look at his hips,they only raise a few inches
yup, nothing to brag about.. bragging about sloppy box jumps bugs me so much, i need to get a life.
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Yes, you do.
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(http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/JimHardyTireJump_th.jpg)
hardcore, brah.
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(http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/JimHardyTireJump_th.jpg)
hardcore, brah.
Nice lighting.
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(http://asp.elitefts.com/images/upload/qa/Box%20Jump%20copy.jpg)
GO HARD OR GO HOME, BITCH.
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the box jump mentality :D pretty funny..
[04:40am] ssr7: lol i don't even like joe defranco
[04:40am] adarq: which they all end up sacrificing
[04:40am] adarq: ya im not a defranco fan
[04:40am] ssr7: he told me that if my box jump improves then my vert would
[04:41am] ssr7: during my stay there (7 weeks)my box jump went up 6 inches
[04:41am] adarq: LOL
[04:41am] ssr7: but my vert dropped
[04:41am] adarq: LOL
[04:41am] adarq: LOL
[04:41am] adarq: thats HILARIOUS
[04:41am] adarq: can i log that into the box jump thread
[04:41am] ssr7: lol yeah dude
[04:41am] adarq: i mean its hilarious that he said if box jump improves vert would
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check how he holds onto the box, shit is funny..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtDwySv8V0M
massive hip flexibility
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Box jumps aren't stupid Adarqui, they can be a very useful training tool. BRAGGING about your box jump on the other hand, now that is f*#king stupid.
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Well, they are useful up to a certain extent, nearly as useful as repeated standing vertical jumps, but with less of a training effect due to the encouragement of incomplete hip extension to hurry and pull the feet up, and the extremely low eccentric landing forces. You can watch video after video of people performing high box jumps, and more times than not, they are pulling the knees up before they reach complete triple extension. But if someone were to want to work on rfd with low impact forces, teach landing skills at a low level, etc. they can be beneficial. They are not a valid test of jumping ability in any way, and very low eccentric forces involved make them a lower intensity training technique.
The issue I have with box jumps is when people are jumping on extremely high boxes, believing they are training their jumping ability, when in reality they could cut the box height in half, step off it and do a depth jump, and get 100000000000 times the training effect they are looking for.
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Well, they are useful up to a certain extent, nearly as useful as repeated standing vertical jumps, but with less of a training effect due to the encouragement of incomplete hip extension to hurry and pull the feet up, and the extremely low eccentric landing forces. You can watch video after video of people performing high box jumps, and more times than not, they are pulling the knees up before they reach complete triple extension. But if someone were to want to work on rfd with low impact forces, teach landing skills at a low level, etc. they can be beneficial. They are not a valid test of jumping ability in any way, and very low eccentric forces involved make them a lower intensity training technique.
The issue I have with box jumps is when people are jumping on extremely high boxes, believing they are training their jumping ability, when in reality they could cut the box height in half, step off it and do a depth jump, and get 100000000000 times the training effect they are looking for.
x2
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lol, this is great im dying laughing at this. I can give you a good example of myself. last summer I increased my box jump from 44-46ish to 52 inches, effin' sweet right? yeah well in that same period my standing vertical only went from 23 to 25 ...fuck
honestly i think the only thing i'd use a box for now is to ease the landing of a depth jump
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lol, this is great im dying laughing at this. I can give you a good example of myself. last summer I increased my box jump from 44-46ish to 52 inches, effin' sweet right? yeah well in that same period my standing vertical only went from 23 to 25 ...fuck
8 inches vs 2 inches, big difference.. that's the thing, alot of box jumping is just:
- improved hip flexibility
- reduced inhibition specific to the movement
honestly i think the only thing i'd use a box for now is to ease the landing of a depth jump
depth jump, depth drop, standing on top of it and yelling "on top of the world mothrfu@#!$!@%r!@$!@"
:)
peace man
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honestly i think the only thing i'd use a box for now is to ease the landing of a depth jump
depth jump, depth drop, standing on top of it and yelling "on top of the world mothrfu@#!$!@%r!@$!@"
I do that a lot on my toilet seat
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Lmao about this thread, i feel the same way, its that stupid west side craze that sucks everyone in to thinking box jumps are the be all to end all vert training exercise. Doing box jumps is what stuffed my back up for another 2 months, landing in such an unctrolled fashion(barely ever do you land on the balls of your feet, usually your whole foot all at once-which sends so much force through your body), with a massive flexed back, cant be good at all.
lol i got so sucked into this fad that i even contemplated going to clark rubber to get mats to put on my 30inch table to increast the heigh.
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Yeah it's stupid... they rarely are used for what they're actually good for.
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Lmao about this thread, i feel the same way, its that stupid west side craze that sucks everyone in to thinking box jumps are the be all to end all vert training exercise. Doing box jumps is what stuffed my back up for another 2 months, landing in such an unctrolled fashion(barely ever do you land on the balls of your feet, usually your whole foot all at once-which sends so much force through your body), with a massive flexed back, cant be good at all.
ya, sometimes i think louie simmons is trolling... built a good rep, then decided to preach about some dumb shit like box jumps & kneeling lifts being "amazing".. i think i hate kneeling lifts more than box jumps :)
KNEELING POWER CLEANS
KNEELING SNATCH
KNEELING BOX JUMPS <-- ok i hate those more than anything because they combine the two.
powerlifters love box jumps, crossfitters love box jumps & kneeling oly's & kipups.
i just realized crossfit bugs the shit out of me, they love box jumps, kneeling oly's, and kipups.. all 3 of which i created threads about.
ok i don't mind crossfit, but it's funny that they utilize those 3 exercises so heavily.
lol i got so sucked into this fad that i even contemplated going to clark rubber to get mats to put on my 30inch table to increast the heigh.
ahaahahah that is bad :o
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KNEELING POWER CLEANS
KNEELING SNATCH
I've read the book these two lifts/jumps came from...i think I remember them being prep exercises for the snatch and C&J, nothing more than that. typical America for you though, lets find something odd/new (which isn't new at all) endorse the hell out of it and take the industry by strom
and why just extend at the hips and not the knee and ankle like most jumping?
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KNEELING POWER CLEANS
KNEELING SNATCH
I've read the book these two lifts/jumps came from...i think I remember them being prep exercises for the snatch and C&J, nothing more than that. typical America for you though, lets find something odd/new (which isn't new at all) endorse the hell out of it and take the industry by strom
and why just extend at the hips and not the knee and ankle like most jumping?
ya, that's exactly what they were used for.. just a progression for learning the oly's, now look, they are utilized in every 'performance gym' around the US.. all they do is waste time, unless it's part of an oly learning progression.
that 45 year old housewife should do some kneeling oly's, you should suggest that to your instructor.. haha
peace man
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probably addin some more fuel to the fire, but here is my :rant:
everytime i see box jumps done it's usually some trainer at the gym or one of my coaches
the look dangerous at the heights that ppl try to do it at
i really don't think it's better than just doing a standing jump
I see ppl all the time jumping them trying to show off
they hurt my knees for some reason, either landing wrong or something
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probably addin some more fuel to the fire, but here is my :rant:
everytime i see box jumps done it's usually some trainer at the gym or one of my coaches
the look dangerous at the heights that ppl try to do it at
i really don't think it's better than just doing a standing jump
I see ppl all the time jumping them trying to show off
they hurt my knees for some reason, either landing wrong or something
box jumps generally are very easy on the knees, except if you wipeout, then they are very risky.. but in general, you're jumping up and ONTO a box, that's a very low force absorption when you land.
pc
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probably addin some more fuel to the fire, but here is my :rant:
everytime i see box jumps done it's usually some trainer at the gym or one of my coaches
the look dangerous at the heights that ppl try to do it at
i really don't think it's better than just doing a standing jump
I see ppl all the time jumping them trying to show off
they hurt my knees for some reason, either landing wrong or something
box jumps generally are very easy on the knees, except if you wipeout, then they are very risky.. but in general, you're jumping up and ONTO a box, that's a very low force absorption when you land.
pc
except for when you land in that horrid deep squat position that all the JA's do on youtube.
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Personally I find box jumps kind of impressive, it takes alot of balls to jump onto a ~60-65+ inch box fully knowing that there is high possibility of eating shit and hurting yourself.... The real skill in it is being able to get your knees past your face..
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Personally I find box jumps kind of impressive, it takes alot of balls to jump onto a ~60-65+ inch box fully knowing that there is high possibility of eating shit and hurting yourself....
ya i'll give you that.. i respect the athletes who go ME on box jumps, especially on stacked metal boxes, but I think the ones coaching them to do it are usually pretty stupid for prescribing ME box jumps, especially when they then use box jump numbers to show "performance enhancement" <-- hey go F yourself people, you know who you are.
The real skill in it is being able to get your knees past your face..
haah truth.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_St8f6TtMJ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKgPZa79daM
somebody doesn't learn....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRT_tMYP8I
pause at :30, how could you possibly think that was going to end well?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r317PR2XEFQ
lots of potential hurt here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IEX3Kh9uE
crossfit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBMYX6FyLAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Oiv8FnRb0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3586susSSfY
cool shorts brah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS_C6Sq_Lio
get her on adarq.org ASAP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP4szNwDh9I
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I forgot about this gem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7986lssoJCQ
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I forgot about this gem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7986lssoJCQ
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHA. What the fuck is going on there?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHUzEeqFdg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHUzEeqFdg
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvqs7-0QeZI
Box jumps like these still impress the hell outta me ^_^
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHUzEeqFdg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwHUzEeqFdg
nice, ant.tib activation, beast prehab.
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Hey Lance,
Weren't you talking to Louie Simmons about box jumping and all the guys at WSB who box jump but can't vertical jump? I remember reading an article you wrote about that but I don't remember all the details... Have you ever met Dave Tate? He seems like a cool guy...
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Hey Lance,
Weren't you talking to Louie Simmons about box jumping and all the guys at WSB who box jump but can't vertical jump? I remember reading an article you wrote about that but I don't remember all the details... Have you ever met Dave Tate? He seems like a cool guy...
Yea, Ive had a few conversations with Louie about jump training and he kept referring to how high different guys could box jump, or with what weight they could jump from a kneeling positon to a stand, what weight dumbells they could hold while jumping on a box, etc. He really didnt ever test a true vertical jump and I referenced the fact that in college, alot of my teamates that could box jump the best had some of the lowest vertical jumps on the team. That was really the extent of what I was saying in that post you are talking about, box jumping does not correlate well with vertical jumping at all and it is a horrible way to try and improve it.
Never met Dave Tate but there is a picture of him jumping on a box somewhere in this thread.
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So was Louie receptive to your ideas? I am sure there are few in the United States that are stronger than those WSB guys on the three major lifts, but as far as VJ goes, I mean they are too massive to even move all that weight to be among the best leapers.
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So was Louie receptive to your ideas? I am sure there are few in the United States that are stronger than those WSB guys on the three major lifts, but as far as VJ goes, I mean they are too massive to even move all that weight to be among the best leapers.
My "ideas" were just valid points that he didnt disagree with, the thing that alot of people misunderstand about Louie is he doesnt care about vertical jump nearly as much as alot of us do, if you gave him a choice of increasing someones svj by 10 inches or increasing their box squat 50lbs, hed take the box squat no question.
Alot of those guys have too much bodyfat to optimize jumping, but the main difference is they dont really train for jumping at all, all of the explosive and dynamic exercises are done to improve rfd in the LIFTS, not a vertical jump. Powerlifting is NOT jump training, just like jump training is not powerlifting.
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So was Louie receptive to your ideas? I am sure there are few in the United States that are stronger than those WSB guys on the three major lifts, but as far as VJ goes, I mean they are too massive to even move all that weight to be among the best leapers.
My "ideas" were just valid points that he didnt disagree with, the thing that alot of people misunderstand about Louie is he doesnt care about vertical jump nearly as much as alot of us do, if you gave him a choice of increasing someones svj by 10 inches or increasing their box squat 50lbs, hed take the box squat no question.
Alot of those guys have too much bodyfat to optimize jumping, but the main difference is they dont really train for jumping at all, all of the explosive and dynamic exercises are done to improve rfd in the LIFTS, not a vertical jump. Powerlifting is NOT jump training, just like jump training is not powerlifting.
PAGING STEVEN-MILLER, PAGING STEVEN-MILLER
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Would you say he'd choose the box squat because he doesn't know HOW to increase one's VJ, or because he's a strength addict, or both? (and please, no politically correct things like "well he knows how (because I talk with him and he's my buddy) but he doesn't want to etc). HONESTY! (I shouldn't worry about that though, you've always been honest so... :P)
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IN MY OPIONION, he loves box squats because a). He helped popularize the exercise, and b). they carryover very well to the canvas suited squat that he and his lifters use in competition. A canvas suit "catches" the lifter on the decent, much like a box, the ipf poly suits "rebound" and stretch, hence the unpopularity of box squatting among those lifters.
I asked him if he were training an athlete who was a basketball player, and their main goal was to increase vertical jumping, what squatting means would he use. He said he would use a high box squat, with the box set at a little above a half squat, narrow stance, similar to the jumping position. This led me to ask him if he felt the stretch reflex was being detrained in a way from doing so. He responded that he had done extensive testing, and the stretch reflex could be maintained for several seconds in experienced lifters. The problem with this is the stretch reflex starts to dissapate immediately when the lifter hits the box, the longer the pause the greater the dissipation.
I like box squats COMBINED with free squats in a lot of cases, the box squat aids tremedously in different circumstances like teaching the squat, coming out of a dead start like a sprinter coming out of the blocks, and allowing a greater load when put in a higher position in the range of motion with a concrete indicator of depth. In squatting for jumping improvement, IN MY OPINION, the amortization phase, the point in the movement where the bar goes from downward motion to upward, is the single most important part of the lift. I have seen and strongly believe that the athletes who can turn the lift around the fastest will always have the best carryover to jumping. It is more about how quickly you can get to top speed at that particular point in the lift, than the overall speed attained during the movement.
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In squatting for jumping improvement, IN MY OPINION, the amortization phase, the point in the movement where the bar goes from downward motion to upward, is the single most important part of the lift. I have seen and strongly believe that the athletes who can turn the lift around the fastest will always have the best carryover to jumping. It is more about how quickly you can get to top speed at that particular point in the lift, than the overall speed attained during the movement.
Interesting point and I think adarq has said this before in reference to REA squatting and jump squatting. I'm pretty sure I suck at this part of the movement. Any cues/tips on improving it?
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The thing that has helped the most with that part of the movement is fully understanding that you are trying to put 100% of you power into that particular point in the r.o.m. and I use a cue of imagining a nail sticking up under you but when you get to the bottom of the squat. If you visualize as soon as you hit the bottom, a nail sticks you and you "react" it gives an extra incentive mentally and helps that point in the lift be more ballistic. You have to anticipate the bottom of the lift, you cant "feel" for it like alot of athletes do when squatting, the goal is to put as much speed and power into that few inches of the lift as you can muster up. The more you practice it the better you get and I have seen tons of squat pr's after implementing this technique, it carries over to max strength very well also.
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I'd rather focus on bodybuilding to jump high than powerlifting
Box Squats are much better for pussies like me ;). It's probably a more dangerous exercise, but for some reason I feel safer doing it. I'd rather do free squats though.
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Well I think there are two important reasons why one should squat for a higher VJ:
1) To build muscle that will generate tension for greater power. To do this, the best way is probably a deep squat and coupling phase time, specificity and things like these aren't that important.
2) To overload a muscle with "some weight" in a specific manner to the jump itself with a smaller ROM, more attention being paid at the coupling time and joint angles.
Now, I don't know if 2) is needed. It's probably needed just because the plyos damage the body so much if they are done endlessly, so then the 2) part is probably a good compromise. Otherwise, plyos are the way to go in my opinion.
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Right, a gpp type squat to prepare the body for the more intensive demands of the more sport specific spp squat/reactive/jump type movements later on. A full squat (or as full as one can safely go with good technique) is extremely beneficial for not only jumping but all the other movements that will go along with sport. Using both gpp and spp methods will always trump using only one or the other.
OH, AND BOX JUMPS ARE A TERRIBLE WAY TO TEST JUMPING ABILITY.
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Would it make sense to you if I were to squat 2 times per week and one time go with full squats and the other go with heavier partials for more specificity, like half squats or 1/4 squats?
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Makes perfect sense, thats what I do with most athletes most of the time.
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In squatting for jumping improvement, IN MY OPINION, the amortization phase, the point in the movement where the bar goes from downward motion to upward, is the single most important part of the lift. I have seen and strongly believe that the athletes who can turn the lift around the fastest will always have the best carryover to jumping. It is more about how quickly you can get to top speed at that particular point in the lift, than the overall speed attained during the movement.
Interesting point and I think adarq has said this before in reference to REA squatting and jump squatting. I'm pretty sure I suck at this part of the movement. Any cues/tips on improving it?
yup, that's why I prescribe REA squatting, to aid in the transition.. that's why I also always say to focus on the transition as much as possible, during squatting.
the most important thing definitely is mental, always cueing yourself and making sure to really transition as explosively as possible, in all squat reps.. so lance's nail cue is great etc.
other than that, REA squats/depth jumps/depth drops & jump squats help.
I've found REA squats to be most effective in terms of carry over to the squat.. depth jumps/depth drops definitely can have carry over also, even more so if you're using intense box heights, that also improves the transition during ballistic movements, greater force produced during the "coupling phase", that iso between eccentric and concentric.
pc
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Right, a gpp type squat to prepare the body for the more intensive demands of the more sport specific spp squat/reactive/jump type movements later on.
this
A full squat (or as full as one can safely go with good technique) is extremely beneficial for not only jumping but all the other movements that will go along with sport. Using both gpp and spp methods will always trump using only one or the other.
this too
OH, AND BOX JUMPS ARE A TERRIBLE WAY TO TEST JUMPING ABILITY.
oh, and this.
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btw who the hell voted for box jumps are awesome, u WiLL paY!#!@!$
jk
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I use box jumps all the time. (Not really). I do use them once in a while. Why? HIP FLEXORS. I'm a hurdler, vert isn't too important in the event because your center of mass is supposed to stay at nearly the same height throughout the event. But, I would never bother trying for crazy high box jumps. I get enough hip flexor work from tuck jumps and the occasional set of ~36 in. box jumps. Aside from that, I really see no benefit in it. Even then, how many events or sports actually require that kind of hip strength? Hurdles are the only thing I've ever done that have actually required it.
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this vid, ironically, is hosted on http://youtube.com/xtremetrainingsystem...
XTREMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEE BOX JUMPPPPPPPPPPPZZZZZZZ VALGUZZZZZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7YGILcfl6k
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some nice box jumps, this guy squats like 670 raw at ~220 or something, former bobsledder i think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx15m-mq8rU
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His calves look monstrous!
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I thought this was an anti box jumping thread!
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I thought this was an anti box jumping thread!
ya some are worth mentioning though, lol.. good box jumps are high landings ;)
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Andrew,
I saw this guy at the gym today who stacked the plyo boxes on top of one another. He stacked them so high that he could barely make the box jump. It immediately made me think of this thread. I was hoping that he wiped out and he almost did...
Anyway, I have to start bringing my video camera to the gym so I can capture moments like these.
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Andrew,
I saw this guy at the gym today who stacked the plyo boxes on top of one another. He stacked them so high that he could barely make the box jump. It immediately made me think of this thread. I was hoping that he wiped out and he almost did...
Anyway, I have to start bringing my video camera to the gym so I can capture moments like these.
hahaha
as much as of a retard i think that kid is, wouldn't wish a wipeout on him.. with that being said, capturing the wipeout on film would make for many lolz in this thread ;)
people are crazy, max box jumps with insane hip flexion FTL (for the loss).
pc
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxTxN89xwDk
this one looked good and controlled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq3wuNM36xA
first one was crazy lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB5E8Z4aGMY
RAW POWER!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItPV3eQavAU
CRAZY!!!
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I think they have their uses, but they are very much absued in general.
Having people almost do the splits to be able to land on the box and making that some kind of athletic ability measurement is stupid IMO. It's like the people at the gym who tell you "ya bro, I can squat 6 plates bro" then proceed to do less than a quarter squat.
For some fun though, 45" box jump with a 60lbs weighted vest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s50WjZxOlaQ
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtgC6Hfiai8
awesome boxjump at the end!
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this vid, ironically, is hosted on http://youtube.com/xtremetrainingsystem...
XTREMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEE BOX JUMPPPPPPPPPPPZZZZZZZ VALGUZZZZZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7YGILcfl6k
I actually know his brother (thru Facebook - Ryan Englebert ETS Gym) he has a lot of similar vids on his Youtube, (crazy high box jumps) apparently they get good results with their athletes (HS getting ready for college and College prepping for pro days/combine) from the times I've talked with them they're pretty smart, pretty basic Westside style routines that are used (I have Ryan's program from a while back). His brother wanted to 1) use me as a testimonial when I got results using his program, but then of course I busted my ankle (see quitters/graveyard thread), and 2) he wanted me to help him put a golf specific program together (a while back).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtgC6Hfiai8
awesome boxjump at the end!
Histerical
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtgC6Hfiai8
awesome boxjump at the end!
uhg pathetic human beings, throwing the cans and the guy who face planted.
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derp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QShI3xZxUg
:uhhhfacepalm:
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Ato Boldon doing vertical jump.
Flyin'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqJAkdw2al4
60+' inches?.
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Ato Boldon doing vertical jump.
Flyin'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqJAkdw2al4
60+' inches?.
60+ isn't impressive at all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmjwVlITLQc
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So what's the world record?.
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So what's the world record?.
For what? The lowest IQ?
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For what? The lowest IQ?
VJ?.
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For what? The lowest IQ?
VJ?.
They are in direct correspondence. The higher you put the box to jump onto, the lowest IQ you have.
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(http://learnmore.lawbore.net/images/thumb/4/47/Knowyourjudge-bemused.jpg/180px-Knowyourjudge-bemused.jpg)
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(http://learnmore.lawbore.net/images/thumb/4/47/Knowyourjudge-bemused.jpg/180px-Knowyourjudge-bemused.jpg)
You're right. Inverse correspondence.
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(http://learnmore.lawbore.net/images/thumb/4/47/Knowyourjudge-bemused.jpg/180px-Knowyourjudge-bemused.jpg)
You're right. Inverse correspondence.
you must have the highest box jump ever!
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(http://learnmore.lawbore.net/images/thumb/4/47/Knowyourjudge-bemused.jpg/180px-Knowyourjudge-bemused.jpg)
You're right. Inverse correspondence.
you must have the highest box jump ever!
Are you kidding me? I do depth jumps, so that's like a negative box jump.
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What you reckon?. Beast?.
Blue Jays OF Joey Gathright goes Car Jumping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cySfw8f0beg
Highflyer Jumps Car.
Dunk special.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayqRGdekt78