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Circadian rhythms & Your training
« on: June 09, 2009, 09:17:05 pm »
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This thread is due to the circadian rhythm studies I posted in this thread: http://www.pure-dedication.com/forum/index.php?topic=42.0

I personally think if you find a good rhythm in your training, you will get better results. I have noticed this with myself and others I have trained.


small questionnaire:

1. Are you a morning or evening person (generally)?

2. What time do you sleep/wake on average?

3. List the times of day at which you train, label them endurance or power.

4. If you'd rather train at a different time, list the time here.

5. any other info? perhaps what you notice in athletes you may train beside yourself?





As an example, with the minor league baseball off-season training camp I did, we had 6 athletes, and only one of them I would classify as an evening person. For pretty much the entire off-season, training lasted from 1:30 pm to 3:00-3:15 pm. Even though the "evening person" had good sessions during this time frame, when we did occasionally train at 7pm, he had insane sessions. You could just see the difference in his energy during this time frame. He hit his best vert and best squat during these sessions. His best broad jump came on a day where we trained at 5pm.

If i had the ability to take advantage of these rhythms I definitely would... my schedule wouldn't permit me too, as well as the fact that he'd be the only one in the night group, so he'd rather be in the afternoon group even.

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2009, 09:21:40 pm »
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small questionnaire:

1. Are you a morning or evening person (generally)?

Evening



2. What time do you sleep/wake on average?

In general, i go to sleep at 3am and wake at 11am... If i had absolutely no obligations, that's how I would normally sleep and wake.



3. List the times of day at which you train, label them endurance or power.

Early afternoon - Starting around 12-1pm : Power - dunks and bball dribbling.

Late evening - Starting around 9pm or 10pm : Power - intense training such as squatting etc



When i boxed:

Late evening - Starting around 11am or 12am : Road work/shadow boxing.



4. If you'd rather train at a different time, list the time here.

I'd rather do dunks in the evening, but it would effect my weight training etc.

I prefer training very late, i feel so good at this time. I think by training in the late evening, I am at my peak in power/strength related exercises.


5. any other info?

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 04:28:41 am »
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small questionnaire:

1. Are you a morning or evening person (generally)?

Evening

2. What time do you sleep/wake on average?

11pm - 7am due to school, but I would like to sleep from 12am/1am - 9/10am.

3. List the times of day at which you train, label them endurance or power.

I always train at 5pm, give or take about 30 minutes. I feel best at this time.

4. If you'd rather train at a different time, list the time here.

5. any other info? perhaps what you notice in athletes you may train beside yourself?
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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 06:14:22 am »
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1. Are you a morning or evening person (generally)?
evening..never train in the morning ..
2. What time do you sleep/wake on average?
sleep 1am ..wake up 9.30. - 10 am
3. List the times of day at which you train, label them endurance or power.
power training at about 5 p.m. ..core work stretching about 10 p.m
4. If you'd rather train at a different time, list the time here.
2 p.m..
5. any other info? perhaps what you notice in athletes you may train beside yourself?



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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 04:40:04 pm »
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1. Are you a morning or evening person (generally)?

Morning

2. What time do you sleep/wake on average?

5:30am Wake-Up
11:00pm Sleep

3. List the times of day at which you train, label them endurance or power.

8pm-9pm Power

4. If you'd rather train at a different time, list the time here.

I'd prefer to split power workouts into two sessions:

12pm-1pm
6pm-7pm

But can't or else lose my job.

5. any other info? perhaps what you notice in athletes you may train beside yourself?

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 07:50:35 pm »
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1. Are you a morning or evening person (generally)?
Evening
2. What time do you sleep/wake on average?
1AM/9AM
3. List the times of day at which you train, label them endurance or power.
Depends, but usually around 1-3PM, Power
4. If you'd rather train at a different time, list the time here.
4PM-6PM if it is the time of the year when it is still light outside between 4 and 6
5. any other info? perhaps what you notice in athletes you may train beside yourself?
Rather than the time at which I wake up, it is more important for me to do something like basketball for an hour or two early in the day.  After that I take a break and eat before doing my main workout.  This gets my CNS working well and lets my body get used to being explosive before I start my main power workouts later on in the day.

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2009, 08:55:09 pm »
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1. Are you a morning or evening person (generally)?
Evening


2. What time do you sleep/wake on average?
If given the choice, I go to bed around 1-2 AM and get up at around 9-10 AM.


3. List the times of day at which you train, label them endurance or power.
I usually train around 12-2 PM, but work has got me doing it later in the evening. This is training for power.


4. If you'd rather train at a different time, list the time here.
12-2 works pretty well for. I'm happy training any time after noon though.


5. any other info?
Training immediately after short naps is awesome. I feel completely revitalized when I do.

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2009, 09:30:59 pm »
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1. Are you a morning or evening person (generally)?

Evening

2. What time do you sleep/wake on average?

Sleep at 1am and wake up at 6am on weekdays (I know) and varies on weekends and in the summer

3. List the times of day at which you train, label them endurance or power.
4pm-6pm for power

4. If you'd rather train at a different time, list the time here.

8pm-10pm

5. any other info? perhaps what you notice in athletes you may train beside yourself?

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2009, 02:30:28 am »
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seems like pretty much everyone so far trains in the evening for power.. which is somewhat backed by the circadian rhythm studies.

rj's uses of naps to revitalize is also pretty well documented in these studies..

rj's actually training for power early during usual "post lunch dip" times is the only anomalie so far.. even though others have said they would prefer to workout at this time, but still workout for power later.

of course there are differences among humans, so you can't hold the study as gospel.. but it is interesting that so many people here workout for power in the evening, which is around the period where studies say the body is most ready for this training... also, job/school are early in the day, so that could have a major effect on the data collected in this thread..

i bet if we had hundreds of responses, the vast majority would fall into this rhythm.

eventually we'll sticky it and find out, when we have tons of forum members ;)

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2009, 04:53:36 pm »
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1. Are you a morning or evening person (generally)?
Evening

2. What time do you sleep/wake on average?
10:30-m, 5-5:30 am

3. List the times of day at which you train, label them endurance or power.
11am or 12pm

4. If you'd rather train at a different time, list the time here.
4pm

5. any other info? perhaps what you notice in athletes you may train beside yourself?
I am an evening person trapped in a morning persons job.  my training has suffered alot

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 07:55:16 pm »
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darqui or anyone else, ever heard of biorhythms?  Thoughts or opinions on them? I know a martial arts guy used to swear by them. And I mean everyone knows there are days your either physical, emotionally, or mentally out of it, and other days when you feel like you can fly. Bet kelly/jack M knows about them this seems up his alley haha. Definitely a pseudoscience but still might be something about them

http://www.facade.com/biorhythm/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biorhythm

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 08:08:45 pm »
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darqui or anyone else, ever heard of biorhythms?  Thoughts or opinions on them? I know a martial arts guy used to swear by them. And I mean everyone knows there are days your either physical, emotionally, or mentally out of it, and other days when you feel like you can fly. Bet kelly/jack M knows about them this seems up his alley haha. Definitely a pseudoscience but still might be something about them

http://www.facade.com/biorhythm/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biorhythm

ya i've heard of them.. im not sure if they exist exactly as described, but i know circadian rhythms exist, and more than likely rhythms involving the changing of the seasons (earth rotation around sun) exist.

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 08:21:33 pm »
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ps: I don't think those biorhythms on facade are matching up with me.. intellectual/physical seem to be off.

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 11:29:02 pm »
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hmm i dunno i am going to see how/if it does match up, although i was feeling VERY good physically wednesday-friday when it said i was supposed to peak...if i suck the next 2-3 weeks its the biorhythms fault!

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Re: Circadian rhythms & Your training
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2010, 01:00:33 am »
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hmm i dunno i am going to see how/if it does match up, although i was feeling VERY good physically wednesday-friday when it said i was supposed to peak...if i suck the next 2-3 weeks its the biorhythms fault!

cool man.. interested in seeing if it correlates with you.