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Performance Area => Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion => Topic started by: ruso15 on September 21, 2011, 09:48:14 am
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wich one would work better as a general/main exercise?
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wich one would work better as a general/main exercise?
front squats will make your knees fall off and give you tendonitis in your wrists. back squats will cause discs in your lumbar spine to explode, risking paralysis. stick with leg curls, seated calf raises and hamstring curls.
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i had an achilles rupture while i was training with front squats so you can add another reason
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one of the reasons i asked was because im not sure about how much the glutes are involved in the front squat
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front squats will make your knees fall off and give you tendonitis in your wrists. back squats will cause discs in your lumbar spine to explode, risking paralysis. stick with leg curls, seated calf raises and hamstring curls.
What?! :o sounds awful!! Is squatting that bad for you? But isn't barbell back squat one of the best exercise?
Kinda makes me afraid to squat...
But since you're saying the problem of back squat is on your back, then how about leg press? Just asking cause we got one at our school.
And I mean the seated ones, not lying on your back and pushing upwards.
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wich one would work better as a general/main exercise?
front squats will make your knees fall off and give you tendonitis in your wrists. back squats will cause discs in your lumbar spine to explode, risking paralysis. stick with leg curls, seated calf raises and hamstring curls.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/PsychoPriest27/29uvjt2.gif)
I enjoy doing leg curls and hamstring curls in the same workout
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front squats will make your knees fall off and give you tendonitis in your wrists. back squats will cause discs in your lumbar spine to explode, risking paralysis. stick with leg curls, seated calf raises and hamstring curls.
What?! :o sounds awful!! Is squatting that bad for you? But isn't barbell back squat one of the best exercise?
Kinda makes me afraid to squat...
But since you're saying the problem of back squat is on your back, then how about leg press? Just asking cause we got one at our school.
And I mean the seated ones, not lying on your back and pushing upwards.
He is being sarcastic. Avoid all versions of the leg press as a main exercise. The front and the back squat are both excellent exercises. Start with whichever is easier for you.
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wich one would work better as a general/main exercise?
front squats will make your knees fall off and give you tendonitis in your wrists. back squats will cause discs in your lumbar spine to explode, risking paralysis. stick with leg curls, seated calf raises and hamstring curls.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/PsychoPriest27/29uvjt2.gif)
I enjoy doing leg curls and hamstring curls in the same workout
Once my leg fell of at shoulder level while doing leg curls. DONT DO THEM!!!
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wich one would work better as a general/main exercise?
front squats will make your knees fall off and give you tendonitis in your wrists. back squats will cause discs in your lumbar spine to explode, risking paralysis. stick with leg curls, seated calf raises and hamstring curls.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/PsychoPriest27/29uvjt2.gif)
I enjoy doing leg curls and hamstring curls in the same workout
Once my leg fell of at shoulder level while doing leg curls. DONT DO THEM!!!
fuck, i guess that limits me to seated calf raises. on the plus side, i'm going to look like this in no time!
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2008/08-019-training/image005.jpg)
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does anyone wanna answer something productive?
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The back squat is the best exercise over front squats in my opinion and the front squat is a good for helping with form for the back squat.
the front squat can be painful for the wrist.
So Back Squats all the way.
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Haha lmfao that is very funny i can imagine the sarcastic remark about the leg press and at the same time grinning as if that is what you want him to think. :P
wich one would work better as a general/main exercise?
front squats will make your knees fall off and give you tendonitis in your wrists. back squats will cause discs in your lumbar spine to explode, risking paralysis. stick with leg curls, seated calf raises and hamstring curls.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/PsychoPriest27/29uvjt2.gif)
I enjoy doing leg curls and hamstring curls in the same workout
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one of the reasons i asked was because im not sure about how much the glutes are involved in the front squat
The hamstrings can't contribute to hip extension as much in the front squat as in the back squat because they are not as lengthened in the front squat (the more a muscle is already shortened, the less it can contract and contribute). Therefore hip extension is mostly glutes in the front squat and very little hamstrings.
I just front squatted for the first time a couple days ago and nearly strained my left glute. My glutes hurt more than my quads during the movement.
Edit: Meant to say that I front squatted for the first time in three months. My post made it seemed like it was the first time I front squatted ever.
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Tis true. What the front squat does is eliminate hamstirng involvement, the glutes are still very involved if not more involved. Take 2 big groups of people and have one group do back squats and jumps and one do front squats and jumps it wouldn't surprise me if the front squat group made better vert specific gains due to the inherent increased lower body loading involved (you can't lean forward and take stress off the legs) - they do have some advantages (harder to cheat, less lower back involvement, more lower quad involvement etc.). But they're also kinda a pain in the ass.
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front squats are def a pain in the ass, i agree they seem to be even more specific, which would mean slightly better gains from front vs back.
i kept straining something in my upper back when i was front squatting.. i actually enjoyed going below parallel on front squats too, instead of half, trying to reverse at half, with a front squat, is torture.
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i dont know why but i have never felt any pain on shoulders or upper back while doing front squats, even though i used crossed arms stand.
But somethimes i feel they put much presure on the calves
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i dont know why but i have never felt any pain on shoulders or upper back while doing front squats, even though i used crossed arms stand.
But somethimes i feel they put much presure on the calves
obviously, your calves are lagging and you need to do more seated calf raised.
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i dont know why but i have never felt any pain on shoulders or upper back while doing front squats, even though i used crossed arms stand.
But somethimes i feel they put much presure on the calves
obviously, your calves are lagging and you need to do more seated calf raised.
WTF is wrong with you!!
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i dont know why but i have never felt any pain on shoulders or upper back while doing front squats, even though i used crossed arms stand.
But somethimes i feel they put much presure on the calves
obviously, your calves are lagging and you need to do more seated calf raised.
WTF is wrong with you!!
i don't know, but certainly not anything with my calves. they feel great.
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i dont know why but i have never felt any pain on shoulders or upper back while doing front squats, even though i used crossed arms stand.
But somethimes i feel they put much presure on the calves
Doing it cross arm style will not require nearly as much upper back involvement as keeping the elbows up in the Olympic style.
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Tis true. What the front squat does is eliminate hamstirng involvement, the glutes are still very involved if not more involved. Take 2 big groups of people and have one group do back squats and jumps and one do front squats and jumps it wouldn't surprise me if the front squat group made better vert specific gains due to the inherent increased lower body loading involved (you can't lean forward and take stress off the legs) - they do have some advantages (harder to cheat, less lower back involvement, more lower quad involvement etc.). But they're also kinda a pain in the ass.
Trust me, Kelly, with the right proportions plenty of forward lean is possible in the front squat. I am living proof!
I actually felt my quads a lot more with the back squat with after my layoff. Just plain ol' back squatting had them quivering and aching during the session. Second place were the adductors with very little pain in the hamstrings and none in the glutes.
A few days later when I front squatted my glutes were threatening to give out. Quads didn't feel anything at all.
This isn't empirical proof of anything. I just found it surprising.
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I never feel it in my glutes front squatting, but I'll take people's word for it.
However the potentiation effect is different, my quads don't feel as activated and my leg muscle dominance feels balanced. Back squats make me quad dominant easily, and I inactivate the posterior muscles. When I imagine sprinting I just feel more quad dominant that's why I'm saying this, stride is shortened, but on front squatI feel it mostly in teh VMO, back squat every part of the quads