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Performance Area => Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion => Topic started by: scoobychau on September 29, 2012, 11:31:35 am
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So I thought my leg is ok strong after squatting all this yrs.
I admit i had not deadlift for a while. Buy I expect squatting should kept my Glute and ham in decent shape...
Man was I wrong.
I did 3 set of gHR like this:
http://vimeo.com/50419149
2 days later, both of my tendon on the back knee and outside of my leg,
(Where my hamstring is attching to the the lower leg in the back of knee area )
Is so so sore, I mean these day, my quad glute is never sore and my calves is also use to the exercise so it is not sore any more.
But GHR, seems to activated this small muscle or tendon that I had missed ....
Any one had similar experience? I expect GHR to work on my Glute... Not that specific tendon...
Unless I did GHR wrongly...
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Squats train hip and knee extension. GHRs train knee flexion. As such, you are using muscle in you hamstrings that either you haven't used much before, or have not used in this way. That would explain the new kind of soreness.
The glutes are not realyl involved in the GHR the way you do it, because glutes pretty much just function at the hip, and the movement you are performing takes place entirely at the knees.
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Natural GHRs that you're doing them destroy my knees/ligaments etc ... did them yesterday, it wasn't a very smart thing to do.
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Natural GHRs that you're doing them destroy my knees/ligaments etc ... did them yesterday, it wasn't a very smart thing to do.
Notice I had a big pillow folded on my knee, it is not painful with using that...
So the way I am doing does not involve Glute.
I should not do it often then eh?
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Natural GHRs that you're doing them destroy my knees/ligaments etc ... did them yesterday, it wasn't a very smart thing to do.
Notice I had a big pillow folded on my knee, it is not painful with using that...
So the way I am doing does not involve Glute.
I should not do it often then eh?
It doesn't matter for me - the kneecap is getting "trapped" and can't move while the body moves so that's my problem.
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Natural GHRs that you're doing them destroy my knees/ligaments etc ... did them yesterday, it wasn't a very smart thing to do.
Notice I had a big pillow folded on my knee, it is not painful with using that...
So the way I am doing does not involve Glute.
I should not do it often then eh?
It doesn't matter for me - the kneecap is getting "trapped" and can't move while the body moves so that's my problem.
same problem with me. My knee felt so bad doing them even with a pillow, after a couple sessions I said "fuck this" and went back to leg curls lol
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Natural GHRs that you're doing them destroy my knees/ligaments etc ... did them yesterday, it wasn't a very smart thing to do.
yup.. ghr's have wrecked my hamstring tendons for an extended period of time.
i will never focus on ghr's ever again.
ghr's can kiss my ass, f**k that sh*t.
look at how awesome this is.. i want to do that even though they literally give me hamstring tendonitis!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsXpTzXT-Uo
wtf. idgaf. i'll stick to hyper's, rdl, and even forms of leg curls.
:)
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Not sure if sarcasm...
But if sarcasm, then I have to say - it's too bad atg squats ruin your hips.
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Not sure if sarcasm...
But if sarcasm, then I have to say - it's too bad atg squats ruin your hips.
no i'm dead serious.. for me personally, i have no intention to ever play with natural ghr's again.. they've tweaked my tendons quite a few times.
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For me they destroy my knees... I can even feel the kneecap "move around weirdly" when I do them, and tremendous pressure on it and every ligament etc in there.
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For me they destroy my knees... I can even feel the kneecap "move around weirdly" when I do them, and tremendous pressure on it and every ligament etc in there.
i've felt some weird stuff in my knee too on a few occasions.
we need a natty-ghr hate thread.
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mid heavy goodmorings + higher rep weighted GHRs worked well for me. i'm baller.. i have the GHR bench. lol :headbang:
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mid heavy goodmorings + higher rep weighted GHRs worked well for me. i'm baller.. i have the GHR bench. lol :headbang:
ghr bench is way diff tho.
we had a GHR bench at MSC/perfect competition etc.. i could bang out GHR bench reps but couldn't even go halfway down on natty-ghr.
u r baller tho.
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I agree with everyone natural ghr are too tough on the hamstrings and knees. If you have access to a real ghr they are a great exercise
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Then I get you would be better served doing RDLs and not hip thrusts if hamstring strength is to be emphasized.
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you are correct although I have not jumped on the hip thrust bandwagon yet.
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you are correct although I have not jumped on the hip thrust bandwagon yet.
How so?
Truth be told, I did a 3x12 hip thrust workout a few days ago and didn't feel anything WHATSOEVER as far as glute soreness/fatigue. Instead I felt it just above the glutes, where they "connect" to the spinal erectors. Kinda weird, I think I used a good enough form since the weight wasn't much (used 60 kg).
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I've never done them. They may be great but I can be somewhat resistant to change. I get tons of glute work during a proper RDL (provided your core is strong enough to stabilize your spine and pelvis).
IMO they seem like novelty for novelty's sake.
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Well they're a different type of movement (antero-posterior) and they do allow you to hyperextend the hip while under "direct" load to exactly the "origin" point if you will so...
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yeah,
I've read bretts book and am quite familiar with their justification. if he had the machine for sale then maybe. I also dont think they are needed. but if people wanna do them no problem. also my thighs are too big. I would need someone to deadlit the bar on to me or set up a platform... I guess that shows I attempted to try them... see... too awkward
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yeah,
I've read bretts book and am quite familiar with their justification. if he had the machine for sale then maybe. I also dont think they are needed. but if people wanna do them no problem. also my thighs are too big. I would need someone to deadlit the bar on to me or set up a platform... I guess that shows I attempted to try them... see... too awkward
Com'on man, you'd look really sexy doing them :P
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GHR fucked messed me up too! :pissed: