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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2012, 12:39:11 pm »
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Nate robinson and kevin love pic is totally out of context, lol. I didnt say pf and c's don't need lower body strength, and that small guards don't need upper body.

So the Kevin Love pic is out of context when you say "PF's and Centers defintely need a lot of upperbody strength" ?  OK. 

315 is not that impressive.  earl boykins benches 315. 

As someone who actually knows how much work it takes to get to a 315 bench I can assure you that it is.  Especially for a pro athlete who performs as much cardio on a daily basis as an NBA player and  has a crazy travel schedule 8 months out of the year.

Also, you kidding me, that video is probably fake.  No point with arguing with fools, people from a distance can't tell who is who, lol.

Theres no way that KD went from 185 to 315 in a 1 year, and still look like this with his lanky arms: 

You're right about arguing with fools yet I keep getting sucked into it with you.  Did I ever say that the KD video was legit? No, I said being able to bench 315 was impressive.  Earl Boykins being able to bench 315 (which I HIGHLY doubt) at 135lbs would be damn impressive.

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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2012, 02:08:25 pm »
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So does everybody agree that KD benching 315 is probably fake?.... That was about to make me even more jealous of KD... Lol
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2012, 02:16:18 pm »
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The funniest thing about this thread is hyperdunk doesn't realize Raptor is being sarcastic.

Hyperdunk thinks he's hot shit because he plays high school basketball. All of us "meatheads" did as well.

The durant video is a joke.

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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2012, 02:21:51 pm »
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second-funniest thing about this thread is that chrisbro is still engaging in a serious way.
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2012, 02:23:20 pm »
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So does everybody agree that KD benching 315 is probably fake?.... That was about to make me even more jealous of KD... Lol

The Durant video is fake.  It was part of some joke videos that they did a year or 2 ago with his alleged neighbor that never caught on.

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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2012, 02:23:31 pm »
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Plus that bench press by Kevin looked damn easy!

That's right. Daaaaaaaamn easy I tell ya!

yeah, i find it unbelievable how every meathead on this forum thinks they are bball and sports specific experts.  Learn to hit the rim on your layups first then chime in. 

and when you get payed 20 grand a semester to play somewhere in college, you can have a legit opinion.
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2012, 02:53:58 pm »
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So does everybody agree that KD benching 315 is probably fake?.... That was about to make me even more jealous of KD... Lol

The Durant video is fake.  It was part of some joke videos that they did a year or 2 ago with his alleged neighbor that never caught on.

Wait... so the Durant video was so well made that some people need other people to tell them it's fake or wtf? I can't remember a faker video in such an obvious way in quite some time... wtf?

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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2012, 06:38:38 pm »
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Plus that bench press by Kevin looked damn easy!

That's right. Daaaaaaaamn easy I tell ya!

yeah, i find it unbelievable how every meathead on this forum thinks they are bball and sports specific experts.  Learn to hit the rim on your layups first then chime in.  

Yeah man, I know. They all talk shit. You should do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for your upperbody, if you train the legs with squats the HGH generated through squatting will help the upperbody grow. No need to burn yourself out with upperbody lifts!

Yeah there's definitely some truth to this, and what D4 said.  But at the professional level, strength does factor in a little bit more than pure athleticism compared to lower levels.

Guarantee all the poeple barking and flaming me and D4 have absolutely NO organized bball experience besides park district where there is no tryout.

LOLLLLL, it's funny cause you don't even know Raptor is being sarcastic.   And no one's barking at me idiot.  Only you.

It's also funny how you post a million new topics on this forum asking the most ridiculous questions that all blatantly show you don't know shit about training, and then you go around other topics acting like you're an expert, in which again you blatantly show you don't know shit about training.  When I first joined this forum, I asked a million dumb questions too, and it's fine but I didn't act like some stubborn expert.  I just learned.

You and Harvey go start your own forum.

Also, I hope no one was naive enough to think the Durant video was real lol.  And Hyperdunk, 315 isn't that much?  315 is a lot.  Just because Boykins at 140 can do it, doesn't mean Durant should be doing 600
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2012, 06:39:42 pm »
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It was pretty well made... But when watching I was thinking that's not happening. But I'm sure he can actually bench 185 now
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2012, 07:14:16 pm »
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Nobody thought the Durant video was real idiot.  You're the only one who said "that video is probably fake" lol.

I sound like I'm mentally challenged?  Nice one.
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2012, 07:25:07 pm »
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Nobody thought the Durant video was real idiot.  You're the only one who said "that video is probably fake" lol.

I sound like I'm mentally challenged?  Nice one.

Nobody thought the durant video was real?  Yet several people tried to make a point about it that lanky forwards also need upper body strength?  Yet entropy posted it to try to disprove my post?

Entropy wrote "Speaking of KD" and then posted the video.  I can really sense him trying to disprove your post with that statement.

And then he writes "apparently at the 2007 draft he couldnt bench 185 and this is him benching 315 .. apparently"...  Hyperdunk, you're horrible at sensing sarcasm.  The Raptor one was even worse lol.

Of course lanky forwards need upper body strength.  EVERY BASKETBALL player needs upper body strength...  No one was correlating that with the video idiot.  Just stop it.
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2012, 03:12:35 am »
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Oh thats why you been acting cunty? I wasn't proving you wrong man, just already had that video open in my browser and embed it into the thread, nothing to do with you or your posts whatsover except the mention of KD.  

on the topic of strength in basketball, im wondering about leverages in the post. Who has the advantage and who has the disadvantage and reasons why in the following situations:

Without Ball
1. Big defender fronting small offensive player
2. Small defender fronting a big offensive player

With Ball
3. Big offensive player backing down a small defensive player
4. Small offensive player backing down a big defender


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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2012, 03:13:02 am »
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Agreed.  Let's not argue anymore, you're an idiot and everyone knows it. Bye.
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2012, 05:55:40 am »
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Wait... so Durant's video wasn't real?!

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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2012, 09:44:48 pm »
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Oh thats why you been acting cunty? I wasn't proving you wrong man, just already had that video open in my browser and embed it into the thread, nothing to do with you or your posts whatsover except the mention of KD.  

on the topic of strength in basketball, im wondering about leverages in the post. Who has the advantage and who has the disadvantage and reasons why in the following situations:

Without Ball
1. Big defender fronting small offensive player
2. Small defender fronting a big offensive player

With Ball
3. Big offensive player backing down a small defensive player
4. Small offensive player backing down a big defender


Depends on their athleticism and skill at reading those situations... and the passer, of course.

Big defender fronting a small offensive player is easy enough. As long as the BD puts a body on him without getting too unbalanced, his length should be enough to deny the pass.

If a small defender's fronting a big offensive player, and assuming the athleticism discrepancy isn't too much, all the BOP has to do is bump him a little during the pass and the small defender won't be in a proper position to deny the ball.

Big offensive player backing down a small defensive player oughta get the ball ten times out of ten, providing the passer isn't an ass and fucks up the entry pass. Then it's a matter of bumping the SDP out of position and then shooting.

The small offensive player backing down a big defender will probably have to rely on a face-up game, pump-fakes and the like to get past the big defender, or be straight-up more athletic.

tldr; Big player oughta win in all of them, providing the small player's leverages aren't otherworldly, like Rondo or something.

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And this thread, lol. What's even going on? P:

hyperdunk, bruh, you gotta learn to read sarcasm, lol. You were playing straight man for Raptor for two posts straight. That's gotta be a record or something. And just calling everyone a meathead that don't know how to ball? I realize you weren't directing it at the entirety of adarq.org, but let's be real. This is a tight-knit forum, man. We got what, twenty active journals, if that? Think about it. You might as well call out whoever you got a problem with.

Just chill a little.
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