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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2012, 12:42:00 pm »
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If you're white, you'd be better off ignoring your upper body...

What if you're black? Or asian?

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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2012, 02:54:38 pm »
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If you're white, you'd be better off ignoring your upper body...

You were doing better for a while, training, and actually making decent posts.  why are you acting like an idiot fuck again harvey?

I'm trying to make a point. If you want to make it somewhere as a basketballer, your priority should be jumping above anything else physically.

you are a fucking moron. if you want to make it somewhere as a basketball player, your priority should be BECOMING A GREAT FUCKING BASKETBALL PLAYER.

for fuck's sake, that's not a difficult concept.

bullshit lbss, thats why all of the tfb dunk crew are making millions in the nba right now while that steve nash guy sits at home making youtube clips of his "fundamentals".
 
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2012, 03:58:13 pm »
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oh, right, sorry lance. i forgot that golden child just signed with the Rockets for $25 million over four years.
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2012, 04:05:53 pm »
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oh, right, sorry lance. i forgot that golden child just signed with the Rockets for $25 million over four years.

yep, they saw a youtube clip of his vert and put him on a plane the next day.  Word is, they dont even make him go to practices as long he is somewhere working on his hops.
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2012, 04:10:00 pm »
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25 mil over 4?

I formerly knew about 40 mil over 3... wtf...

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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2012, 05:56:07 pm »
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I play basketball and am probably way too bulky...so here are my 2 cents from the other side of the spectrum:

- Strong glutes and hamstrings I think are obviously necessary. I don't think an overly muscular lower body can hurt in basketball aside from making it difficult to go over screens.

- It's important to be able to drive to the hole, protect the ball, get hacked and maintain enough balance to put up a good shot and if necessary be able to instantly reposition yourself for an offensive rebound.  For this, shoulder strength (being able to keep your arms going up for the shot despite their arms coming down on yours while filing or swiping for the ball) and forearm strength (so they can't strip it from you) are important as well as core strength so that you can maintain your upright position and square yourself decently when pushed, bumped, etc.  

- As far as how much is too much, upper body wise, I'd say you've become large enough or possibly too large when it becomes difficult for you to easily split a double team.

- Not sure if it's a concern but I wouldn't worry too much about additional bulk hurting my vert progression.  Realistically, unless you're 6'6+ and freakishly athletic you're never really going to be jumping over people in meaningful games against players at your skill level.  Learning how to play smart, reduce ground contact time and being strong enough to absorb contact and remain in control is much more important IMO than adding a few inches to your vert if your goal is to do well at basketball and not just post dunks on youtube.  

- I'm in the minority here but I think the broad jump (e.g. jump stops, playing the passing lanes) is of more benefit for basketball than the vertical.

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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2012, 06:21:29 pm »
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If you're white, you'd be better off ignoring your upper body...

You were doing better for a while, training, and actually making decent posts.  why are you acting like an idiot fuck again harvey?

I'm trying to make a point. If you want to make it somewhere as a basketballer, your priority should be jumping above anything else physically.

So that when you start playing some high-level ball, you can jump for joy over 50 times without losing height because somebody who put in the work in the weightroom is boxing you out and bullying you in the low post? Lol.

You don't even play basketball, bro, you play volleyball, so let me tell you that basketball is a physical sport, man, your body and how compact and leanly muscled it is incredibly important. Not just jumping.

These dudes look tiny on TV, but if you go up to them in real life they're completely packed with muscle. Even someone like Stephen Curry is more muscled than you think he'd be.

As for OP, I'd say the routine is fine, just keep adding weight.

I have played basketball. At the national level too, might I add. The point I'm making is that the priority shouldn't be upper body. As important as it is.
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2012, 06:55:24 pm »
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^Why do you think doing upper body twice a week for an hour is going to take away from anything?

You will never have too much "useful" muscle mass unless you take steroids. None of you will ever get to Lebron's level of muscle mass.
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2012, 08:24:29 pm »
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Harvey, you don't know shit about anything.  Stop answering people's questions on this forum.  You've yet to post one good reply.

Played ball on the national level?  STFU LOL, if you think jumping should be his number 1 priority as a basketball player, I'd doubt you ever even played JV ball

Who ever said the OP was prioritizing his upper body over his lower body?  


And I'm sure you were joking, but if you weren't (I wouldn't be too surprised cuz you've proven many times to be stupid), wtf any of this have to do with him being White or any other race...
« Last Edit: August 14, 2012, 08:28:08 pm by D4 »
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2012, 10:37:53 am »
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This post is a joke.  It all depends on the position you play, level of play, and type of player you are.  SG's and PG's undersized need as much core strength and lower body strength as possible, like Isiah Thomas, nate robinson, ty lawson and dwade.  PF's and Centers defintely need a lot of upperbody strength (as well as overall).  And lanky players like Kevin Durant, Demar Derozan, Austin day, young kobe, etc shouldn't get very muscular bc they have height plus athleticism and use finesse and hang time.
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2012, 10:49:48 am »
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Speaking of KD

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8CkKe2fkVw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8CkKe2fkVw</a>

apparently at the 2007 draft he couldnt bench 185 and this is him benching 315 .. apparently
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2012, 10:55:48 am »
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This post is a joke.  It all depends on the position you play, level of play, and type of player you are.  SG's and PG's undersized need as much core strength and lower body strength as possible, like Isiah Thomas, nate robinson, ty lawson and dwade.  PF's and Centers defintely need a lot of upperbody strength (as well as overall).  And lanky players like Kevin Durant, Demar Derozan, Austin day, young kobe, etc shouldn't get very muscular bc they have height plus athleticism and use finesse and hang time.

god, after the first sentence, this post is breathtakingly dumb.
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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2012, 11:12:37 am »
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315 is not that impressive.  earl boykins benches 315.  This is the majority of his workouts.

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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2012, 11:16:55 am »
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This post is a joke.  It all depends on the position you play, level of play, and type of player you are.  SG's and PG's undersized need as much core strength and lower body strength as possible, like Isiah Thomas, nate robinson, ty lawson and dwade.  PF's and Centers defintely need a lot of upperbody strength (as well as overall).  And lanky players like Kevin Durant, Demar Derozan, Austin day, young kobe, etc shouldn't get very muscular bc they have height plus athleticism and use finesse and hang time.

Nate, Ty and Wade all have strong upper bodies.  Coming out of college Nate benched 185 13x, Ty 14x, Wade 9x and all have gotten stronger as they've been in the league and matured.

PFs and Cs need strong lower bodies to hold their position in the post.  Kevin Love is arguably the best PF in the league and a beast on the boards but look at how small his upper body is compared to Nate



and Love's not an exception...Pau, Dirk, Tyson Chandler, Joakim Noah to name a few.

Your lanky player quote is misguided but I will agree that the more natural gifts a person has (height, athleticism, court vision, shooting) the less they will need to enhance their bodies in order to succeed.  But it most definitely would not hurt them to do so and ironically, every player you listed but Kobe would agree that they need to add more muscle to their frame.

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Re: How much muscle mass is useful for a basketball player ?
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2012, 11:20:14 am »
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315 is not that impressive.  earl boykins benches 315. 

As someone who actually knows how much work it takes to get to a 315 bench I can assure you that it is.  Especially for a pro athlete who performs as much cardio on a daily basis as an NBA player and  has a crazy travel schedule 8 months out of the year.