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Performance Area => Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion => Topic started by: fast does lie on May 31, 2013, 09:09:04 am

Title: i'm hopeless
Post by: fast does lie on May 31, 2013, 09:09:04 am
So I joined a pretty competitive league.  I must say that though i have been training for vertical religiously the last 14 months, i was actually training for speed.  I did lots of squats and hip extensions and hamstring stuff almost every other day at near 90% RM.  I am overweight but its okay.

Last night i was able to outrun some extremely gifted athletes, but the problem is when ur running at 50mph... ur kind of out of control and u can't get elevation.  I want to be able to run that fast AND get some elevation/control...
Title: Re: i'm hopeless
Post by: Raptor on May 31, 2013, 09:14:17 am
That's what I've been saying off myself - it's not that I lack the ability to develop power, it's the lack of control/breaking once that power has been developed.

Yes I can get very fast but once I'm there I don't have good enough breaks to stop/change direction (and jumping is a change of direction from horizontal to vertical). Hence my obsession with the breaks of the body - the quads.

Obviously there are other ways of having good breaks and taking some of the blunt from the quads, like having powerful calves and a good posture (so the glutes get some of the deceleration as well functioning at the hip).
Title: Re: i'm hopeless
Post by: ChrisM on May 31, 2013, 09:59:45 am
So I joined a pretty competitive league.  I must say that though i have been training for vertical religiously the last 14 months, i was actually training for speed.  I did lots of squats and hip extensions and hamstring stuff almost every other day at near 90% RM.  I am overweight but its okay.

Last night i was able to outrun some extremely gifted athletes, but the problem is when ur running at 50mph... ur kind of out of control and u can't get elevation.  I want to be able to run that fast AND get some elevation/control...

I'm sure that extra weight doesn't hurt your ability to transition from horizontal to vertical at all....

Think about it, what brakes and changes direction better a 3000lb car or a 5000lb car with the same brakes/suspension?
Title: Re: i'm hopeless
Post by: vag on May 31, 2013, 10:08:54 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertia

And more specific:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertia#Mass_and_inertia
Title: Re: i'm hopeless
Post by: LBSS on May 31, 2013, 10:16:43 am
brakes.
Title: Re: i'm hopeless
Post by: Raptor on May 31, 2013, 10:37:11 am
(http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/915/bde/6a3/resized/no-brakes-meme-generator-dafuq-you-mean-there-s-no-brakes-896a1e.jpg?1340633243.jpg)
Title: Re: i'm hopeless
Post by: seifullaah73 on May 31, 2013, 04:12:44 pm
lol'd in real life.

that baby reminds of this other baby who is just scared of anyone with facial hair lol