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Title: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: zbiz on July 04, 2011, 12:06:02 am
I have noticed that on some days my breathing is really deep and well timed and it just helps me push through tons of more weight  :personal-record:

But I don't know what I'm doing... some days I do the right thing and 90% of the time I am just randomly breathing

What is the right way to breathe while lifting?
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: steven-miller on July 04, 2011, 07:24:47 am
I have noticed that on some days my breathing is really deep and well timed and it just helps me push through tons of more weight  :personal-record:

But I don't know what I'm doing... some days I do the right thing and 90% of the time I am just randomly breathing

What is the right way to breathe while lifting?

Hold breath while doing the rep, breath between reps. Moderately deep breath usually works best and helps not to black out. Extremely deep breath is not beneficial in my experience.
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: zbiz on July 04, 2011, 08:50:12 pm
whoa hold my breath between reps? and then breath out and in, moderately, in between? veryy interesting.  i will have to try it
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: Daballa100 on July 04, 2011, 09:10:34 pm
Yeah use your air to brace your core, so your spine doesn't move.  Some people like to exhale through the sticking point.  I find it helps you get that oomph out of the sticking point. 
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: zbiz on July 04, 2011, 10:16:40 pm
Can you give me some more info on bracing my core?

In fact just the other day at the gym someone told me that in my jump i need to hold my core steady and jump upwards with my upper body and shoulders straight, aggressively toward the rim...
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: steven-miller on July 05, 2011, 05:29:47 am
Can you give me some more info on bracing my core?

In fact just the other day at the gym someone told me that in my jump i need to hold my core steady and jump upwards with my upper body and shoulders straight, aggressively toward the rim...

Just get stronger and this will take care of it. A bigger squat and press are going to be good movements to accomplish that.
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: Raptor on July 05, 2011, 05:35:00 am
Bracing is the same thing you're going to do if you know you'll get hit in the belly. And the same thing you're going to do automatically when you're pushing a car or something. Basically contract the abs and keep them flat.
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: Daballa100 on July 05, 2011, 07:25:00 am
Yeah, focus on keeping your torso rigid, so your spine doesn't move and stays neutral.  The most important thing is that your spine can stay neutral.  You can even do this while you're sitting at a desk.  Obviously squatting more will help you practice this too.
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: LanceSTS on July 05, 2011, 07:56:42 am
Can you give me some more info on bracing my core?

In fact just the other day at the gym someone told me that in my jump i need to hold my core steady and jump upwards with my upper body and shoulders straight, aggressively toward the rim...


 When you inhale, before you valsalva,  make sure your belly rises, not your chest. 
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: Raptor on July 05, 2011, 02:54:28 pm
Can you give me some more info on bracing my core?

In fact just the other day at the gym someone told me that in my jump i need to hold my core steady and jump upwards with my upper body and shoulders straight, aggressively toward the rim...


 When you inhale, before you valsalva,  make sure your belly rises, not your chest. 

Pavel calls this "power breathing" and it's actually the way we breathe when we're babies (before we mess breathing up). Luckily enough, I already breath naturally through the belly.
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on July 05, 2011, 06:41:35 pm
The result of dedicated power breathing, Chi power.



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Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: zbiz on July 06, 2011, 01:44:19 am

Just get stronger and this will take care of it. A bigger squat and press are going to be good movements to accomplish that.

Yeah I will have to switch from leg press to squats soon.

What kind of press do you mean ? Leg press ?  Military press ?
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: zbiz on July 06, 2011, 01:45:24 am


Pavel calls this "power breathing" and it's actually the way we breathe when we're babies (before we mess breathing up). Luckily enough, I already breath naturally through the belly.


Holla, that's legit  :ibjumping:
What's the best way to learn about Pavel's power breathing, I hear he teaches classes ?
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: Raptor on July 06, 2011, 05:01:09 am
I think he talks about it in some of his books like Naked Warrior or Power to the people.
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: steven-miller on July 06, 2011, 08:19:22 am

Just get stronger and this will take care of it. A bigger squat and press are going to be good movements to accomplish that.

Yeah I will have to switch from leg press to squats soon.

What kind of press do you mean ? Leg press ?  Military press ?


Why are you doing leg presses now? And I was talking about the "military press", otherwise known as "overhead press" or just "press".
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: D-Rose Jr on July 06, 2011, 10:55:59 am

Just get stronger and this will take care of it. A bigger squat and press are going to be good movements to accomplish that.

Yeah I will have to switch from leg press to squats soon.

What kind of press do you mean ? Leg press ?  Military press ?


Why are you doing leg presses now? And I was talking about the "military press", otherwise known as "overhead press" or just "press".

x2 you are overthinking to the MMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAXX imo
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: zbiz on July 08, 2011, 04:41:52 am
I get paid to overthink ..... but I see how its not valuable in some contexts ..... my bad for real.


 Any way Thanks guys I'll start doing mil presses.  And I'm doing leg presses since thats what Jacob Hiller recommends in his ebook :-X
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: Raptor on July 08, 2011, 05:42:07 am
And I'm doing leg presses since thats what Jacob Hiller recommends in his ebook :-X

 :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm: :uhhhfacepalm:
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: zbiz on July 08, 2011, 05:47:11 am
I get that you're an expert bro.  Your post count tells me everything I need to know. 

In my dreams  :ibjumping:  like you. 
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: steven-miller on July 08, 2011, 07:07:56 am
I get that you're an expert bro.  Your post count tells me everything I need to know. 

In my dreams  :ibjumping:  like you. 

Don't get this wrong or as an offense to you. It's just that people here don't like Hiller because he sells bullshit information like the "leg press > squats" nonsense that everyone who has done this for a while knows it's a bunch of crap.
I would not claim to be an expert in jump training but I have made some pretty reasonable gains and everyone who did as well here will tell you that you need to squat, especially if you are not very strong to begin with. Squats will build strength that is applicable to jumping (unlike the leg press, which basically does nothing) because it not only trains the legs, but the entire kinetic chain or what you would refer to as "the core" and provides a much better stimulus for the CNS as well.
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: aiir on July 08, 2011, 05:18:00 pm
I get that you're an expert bro.  Your post count tells me everything I need to know. 

In my dreams  :ibjumping:  like you. 

Don't get this wrong or as an offense to you. It's just that people here don't like Hiller because he sells bullshit information like the "leg press > squats" nonsense that everyone who has done this for a while knows it's a bunch of crap.
I would not claim to be an expert in jump training but I have made some pretty reasonable gains and everyone who did as well here will tell you that you need to squat, especially if you are not very strong to begin with. Squats will build strength that is applicable to jumping (unlike the leg press, which basically does nothing) because it not only trains the legs, but the entire kinetic chain or what you would refer to as "the core" and provides a much better stimulus for the CNS as well.

yup...you asked for help, don't try to bash someone for complying to you. Squat, son.
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: zbiz on July 09, 2011, 05:40:13 pm


yup...you asked for help, don't try to bash someone for complying to you. Squat, son.

my bad i be gettin defensive a lot   :-[
Title: Re: Learning the right breathing techniques for lifting
Post by: zbiz on July 09, 2011, 05:40:32 pm
I get that you're an expert bro.  Your post count tells me everything I need to know. 

In my dreams  :ibjumping:  like you. 

Don't get this wrong or as an offense to you. It's just that people here don't like Hiller because he sells bullshit information like the "leg press > squats" nonsense that everyone who has done this for a while knows it's a bunch of crap.
I would not claim to be an expert in jump training but I have made some pretty reasonable gains and everyone who did as well here will tell you that you need to squat, especially if you are not very strong to begin with. Squats will build strength that is applicable to jumping (unlike the leg press, which basically does nothing) because it not only trains the legs, but the entire kinetic chain or what you would refer to as "the core" and provides a much better stimulus for the CNS as well.

noted, from here on out squats gonna be replacing leg press

:highfive: