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Random rant
« on: January 26, 2012, 04:31:46 pm »
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Considering my squat PR today (140kgx5reps), I just came to some "thoughts" after working out so far:

1) At this point, for me at least, it appears I have reached a point where I'm being overwhelmed cardiovascularly at this weight. After my 140x5 I felt REALLY dizzy and felt like passing out... it appears that's pretty much my limit as far as conditioning is concerned when doing strength training. Why should you care about this? Because it could apply to you to. I don't hear anybody talk about conditioning and cardio "strength" for strength training so I thought I should fill that in.

2) I have came to the conclusion that high frequency squatting is the way to go. Even though you might get ballooned squat numbers, the effect that squatting heavy weights again and again has on developing your muscles is unmatched.

You might come in and say "yeah but that squat is not transferrable to athletic movements and is just an improvement of squat movement efficiency". And of course you'd be right. But the thing is - it actually indirectly helps athleticism. You will use higher poundages that will develop your muscles better (subjecting them to heavier poundages will develop both your muscles and your nervous system) and that will, in turn, help with the actual athletic movements.

Also - moving a heavy weight frequently is being underrated in the effect it has for your stabilizer development... since the bar isn't stable (because you won't have 100% perfect movement when squatting) and needs to be, well, stabilized. That creates a good CNS firing to stabilize it and by that I mean a "quick" CNS fire ability. This is so underrated in my opinion.

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Re: Random rant
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 05:02:15 pm »
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You're weak. That's your problem
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Re: Random rant
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 05:04:43 pm »
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You're weak. That's your problem

So you dove deep down into your pinnacle of knowledge to pull out this?

You're weak. That's your problem.

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Re: Random rant
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 05:17:43 pm »
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I personally loved squatting everyday after I tried out some stuff from Adarqui's LTMP post.  I never went heavy on the LTMP sessions, but squatting everyday was fun.  My squat went up, because my technique always felt dead on.  My jumps went up a little too, but there are a couple problems for me.

1) Lack of easy access to a power rack, squat rack, stand, etc.
2) Driving to the gym takes up tons of gas money (commercial gym)
3) Auto regulation can be risky sometimes

I've been thinking of just getting a power rack at home, but then I wouldn't have money for a gym(and there goes my access to an indoor court during the winter).

I agree with you on moving heavy weights helping you out, even if improvement is just movement efficiency.

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Re: Random rant
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 05:25:41 pm »
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Yeah the only thing I see as potentially detrimental is if you lack on court ball playing/jumping and therefore actually adapting to slow movements instead of explosive movements.

But I actually do 2 days per week of slow, strength training while in the others I do explosive half squats complexed with light jump squats so that should be good.

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Re: Random rant
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2012, 07:51:24 pm »
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I'm very sorry to say this, and I actually would rather not do this, but I almost agree with The Situation on this one, except "weak" isn't the right term. Feeling dizzy or feeling like passing out may not be due to poor CV fitness, but lack of proper breathing. But it's probably both for you, considerng you feel dizzy from some light aerobic work like biking.

Either you have a congenital problem, or purposely choose not to assess CV fitness by the following means
1. Reducing rest periods in between sets
2. Alternating exercises back to back

I used to do this due to the religious fear of hypertrophy. But it won't really cause you to gain as much mass as you think, most of it will be due to enhaned glycogen stores and water weight, which you can burn off from taking a few extra days off.

Squatting frequently won't make you any more cardiovascularly fit than simply doing some box jumps in between squats, or doing like 7 pushups after deadlifts, although for a primary strength exercise its better to focus on that entirely and reduce the rest period.

For myself, deadlifting heavy, and combining some upperbody strength exercises like pullups and bench, has made my heart much stronger, and it carries over to other tasks such as swimming, which my lungs would not be able to handle after just 1 lap. And I did not gain much muscle mass from doing that upperbody wise, in fact I gained almost none. Dips are another good way to get the HR up without gaining much mass. You're no where near your limit. You're no where near to even starting to create the adaptations necessary for CV fitness.
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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Re: Random rant
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 08:55:06 am »
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By the way - when it gets warmer outside I'm going to try and jump with a weight belt on. If the weight belt gives me a boost in terms of strength in the squat, I'm going to see practically if that's due to better bar stabilizing or if it's also a matter of muscle irradiation with the leg muscles contracting more forcefully due to the core generating more force by pushing into the belt.

I know the vast majority of people around here will laugh at this ^^^ but I'm going to see it for myself. Not sure anyone tried this in the past (jumping with a weight belt on). The downfall is it's weight but I'll try it nevertheless.
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