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The mindset of people who want to use "bands", not on barbells
« on: December 17, 2010, 03:25:51 pm »
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what is their mindset? dno, but search youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_filter=1&suggested_categories=17%2C26&search_query=resistance+band+squat&page=1

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifMXrvwJF7c" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifMXrvwJF7c</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oewij3YnA0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oewij3YnA0</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-LW3uKu9NM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-LW3uKu9NM</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1p66Wy0peM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1p66Wy0peM</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RsULcuQcWA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RsULcuQcWA</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhMGMnVSTn0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhMGMnVSTn0</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wI2PFlLurk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wI2PFlLurk</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpnV-QM6GbA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpnV-QM6GbA</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlfNxZhpAME" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlfNxZhpAME</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHzguFgHqR0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHzguFgHqR0</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7coh9afwtik" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7coh9afwtik</a>



HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ZERCHER BAND SQUAT OMG

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x5u7mvMvWU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x5u7mvMvWU</a>



it is my opinion, that, people who would like to 'workout from the comfort of their own home, with bands' are complete fucking pussies.. could be wrong though. syke

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Re: The mindset of people who want to use "bands", not on barbells
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 03:32:10 pm »
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http://www.youtube.com/user/YunTraining

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpUjgbPBwCE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpUjgbPBwCE</a>



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6KO04yk0-w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6KO04yk0-w</a>



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWr4IfIUiNw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWr4IfIUiNw</a>



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Re: The mindset of people who want to use "bands", not on barbells
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 03:34:52 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkG6PGsvww8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkG6PGsvww8</a>

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Re: The mindset of people who want to use "bands", not on barbells
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2010, 09:36:33 am »
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I would never use the bands for isotonic training, but with isometrics, they are a pretty great activation exercise. Maybe good for recovery days too? I remember once I almost bought athletes acceleration, which uses the bands for isometrics, and I definitely noticed an increase in speed, because the bounce back from the bands tells your CNS that you are faster. I think it could have potential to increase ractivity, lower ground contact times without damaging the joints. I've been using the swiss balls for isometrics and I usually feel like I'm on a cloud after.
For example. you could push back against the ball, which is against the wall, with your foot, to target quads/glutes/achilles. You should feel pretty fast after. What that big dude did with the glutes and bands is a good example, except isometrics.

Edit: and man! I love chicks with meaty legs, I actually want to eat them. HAHa jk...
« Last Edit: December 18, 2010, 09:39:21 am by tkxii »
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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Re: The mindset of people who want to use "bands", not on barbells
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 04:46:17 am »
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I would never use the bands for isotonic training, but with isometrics, they are a pretty great activation exercise. Maybe good for recovery days too?

bands only could possibly be good for recovery, since the weakest joint angles will experience less stress.



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I remember once I almost bought athletes acceleration, which uses the bands for isometrics, and I definitely noticed an increase in speed, because the bounce back from the bands tells your CNS that you are faster.

it could all be very perceptual btw.. for example, people who wear 20lb vests, jump, take off vest, jump, feel like they are flying, yet they are actually getting lower because their CNS is temporarily fubar'd.

so ya, going off feel can be distorted, not saying it was in your case, but it's something to think about.

another example would be the people who do ISO EXTREMEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ *ONLY* PROTOCOLS and "feel faster" sprinting, yet, they actually get slower and unathletic.


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I think it could have potential to increase ractivity, lower ground contact times without damaging the joints.

??? not sure what you mean?

one of the worst ways though, to prepare the 'joints', is to become very unspecific.. you see this in people who practice on hardwood courts for example, then go out and ball hard one day on concrete, and end up getting raped.. body adapts to surface type, so, not sure why i mentioned that but i felt like mentioning it.. lolz





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I've been using the swiss balls for isometrics and I usually feel like I'm on a cloud after.
For example. you could push back against the ball, which is against the wall, with your foot, to target quads/glutes/achilles. You should feel pretty fast after. What that big dude did with the glutes and bands is a good example, except isometrics.

Edit: and man! I love chicks with meaty legs, I actually want to eat them. HAHa jk...

lol wut, sicko.. dno if that's still considered RAW, probably is.

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Re: The mindset of people who want to use "bands", not on barbells
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2010, 12:00:20 am »
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For the ground contact times i meant I think that maybe using bands for lifting and isometrics can cause the brain to recruit muscles faster. If you stretch a band out with your hamstrings for instance, you may certainly feel faster. It's interesting though you said that many people who use these CNS techniques become slower. I can't see that happening with isometrics with the band, you're producing max tension. I've just noticed that my legs move faster and I stay on the ground for very little time, using this with sprint training.
Regular isos can do the same but with the bands, the recoil effect is what causes the potentiation, as it is propelling the body in the opposite direction at high speeds. It's fun to visualize it and see how much faster you can feel
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf