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Actually, my max squat to just below parallel is higher than 225. 225 is referring to atg, completely paused at the bottom.

Really? Build muscle? I didn't know that. Cuz you can just build muscle with leg extensions. ANd I don't know either, I'm jst a perfectionist so I have this fetish I know. Lol it sued to be worse though way worse.

But you said you didn't squat until recently, but you were able to jump high before, meaning the "proper" squats have nothing to do with your jump
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This.

Also about me being unable to critique your points... There are actually just too many things wrong with your analysis and I don't have time nor motivation to explain this exercise to you. I recommend that you read Starting Strength by Rippetoe for 60+ pages on just squat technique for one point of view. Just an example of a conclusive line of thought - something that you have not provided in the slightest.

To get you started: Why don't you explain to me what happens with high weights when balance is off the mid-foot and onto heels or toes. Your experience does not apply here since you have never in your life squatted a heavy weight. But maybe your amazing thinking skills can help you out.

Btw., the plural of amygdala is amygdalae and you don't seem to understand the purpose of this structure.

Despite just recently squatting and starting out with almost a 30''svj, my SVJ has gone up 4'' with about 40+lbs increase in squat. Once I get to 315 with this style I can comment again. THis has to do with specificity of the squat.

Interesting point about the amygdalae. And I very well do understand their purpose and deal with it in every single debate I am in since most people cannot think rationally under stress. But still steven you are not providing a rebuttal, you are playing the "go do your own research you fool" card. If you provide the adequate rebuttal with say a few quotes or so it would take care of the argument itself. I don't have too much interest in rippetoe, nor do I need to learn to squat properly. I'm trainig for vertical jumping and speed, not to squat more weight. I only mildly appreciate his amygdala-infused inspirational quotes people base their training on. Surely the 'proper' way to squat may be to go back on your heels, but not for athletic enhancement.

You don't have to do a calf-raise at the top of the squat in order to squat heel-to-toe. What's most important is that you don't go backwards on your heels. The point is that in a jump, you accelerate constantly (technically speaking you always accelerate due to gravity.. and it's always downwards..) If you do that in the squat, it could help you jump higher than going back on the heels. I'll post a video of myself soon making this distinction next time as soon as I get the chance to with weights. I suppose this is very similar to the argument, should you try to jump squat every rep you squat? Imo.. it would be better. It's not possible to jump squat with too much weight, but aiming to accelerate the bar upwards may be better. And a side effect of that is.. you're on your forefoot not on heels at the top.

Avishek, I reckon next time you should try a less blunt approach when you have something to discuss. I THINK that I understand what you're saying about the 'toe-heel' movement while squatting and its dissimilarity to an athlete's jumping action, but your point has really become lost with your "me against the forum" attitude.

If beginners are actually reading this topic to know the right and wrong way to move your feet while squatting, Kingfish has it right:

i do not shift the load (toe/heel) in my squats. that is very unsafe and can really get somebody injured. 

i focus on keeping the load distributed evenly with a little bias to the front 2/3s. i have size 12 shoes. everybody's form will be different. i also have a good amount of dorsi flexion ROM at the bottom.

Despite just recently squatting and starting out with almost a 30''svj, my SVJ has gone up 4'' with about 40+lbs increase in squat. Once I get to 315 with this style I can comment again. THis has to do with specificity of the squat.

If u did the 'wrong' squat would you jump higher , lower , or the same?
Says who? Based on what research?

Surely the 'proper' way to squat may be to go back on your heels, but not for athletic enhancement.

Says who? Based on what research?

If you do that in the squat, it could help you jump higher than going back on the heels.

Says who? Based on what research?

I don't have too much interest in rippetoe, nor do I need to learn to squat properly. I'm trainig for vertical jumping and speed, not to squat more weight.

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Just drop a plate on your toe and if you do it right and actually fracture something, you can use it as a way to keep the weight (or tension or life force or whatever you wanna call it) on your heel rather than toes. Worked for me. I fractured mine last friday and I was squatting heel-to-toe (or the other way around? the OPs classification is not very clear) this monday. Hope this helps the newbies reading this thread.

hahahahaha, only worthwhile post in this entire thread. +1,000

THe real argument is - should you try to jump with the weight as if you're jumping in a squat. The toe-to-heel terminology is a bit confusing.

I don't have research whoever asked me for that. I'm merely stating and sharing my opinion. As I mentioned, it would be fun to see research on this, all I have is empirical evidence so far. Furthermore, I did not mean to state it all as fact. But hey if someone really would like to provide research to readily refute this, go ahead I'm all eyes and ears. Has not come forth as of yet

Steven - learn so spell ditto correctly. I'm sorry I offended you you take things like a little bitch does.

strong, strong use of the word "empirical."

perhaps learn to spell "do" correctly when correcting others' spelling.