Author Topic: Time when i should deload? (Read 13225 times)

PointerRyan · « **Reply #45 on:** March 30, 2012, 09:55:36 pm »

Ah so 50 to 75ground contacts. So i'm guessing if i do two leg plyos it wont help my 1leg jump would it? But if i would to do 1leg plyos it can help my two leg jump thats what you said yeah?if thats the case i might as well work on 1leg plyos while doing squats and lunges yeah? So if thats the case what kinda routine for plyos can i use? 1leg bounding? Some other exercise you can recommend? Also i honestly hate single leg strength work, but i concluded what i hate helps me, so should i continue doing ?

Daballa100 · « **Reply #46 on:** March 31, 2012, 05:02:35 am »

Yeah, it's mostly going to be technique. Your single leg jump would still go up due to other factors though, but if your technique slips, it won't really improve.

I wouldn't really use 1 leg plyos extensively, it's just not specific enough IMO if you wanna improve 2 leg jumps. I would stick to MR half tucks, squat jumps, stiff leg ankle hops, and other low level plyometric drills. Once your movement efficiency is very good on your low level drills you can then start using some depth jump/depth drops. That would probably be best, not bounding, plus single leg bounding is pretty intense for any person regardless of ability. I'm not sure about your sprinting abilities, but you should make sure your sprint form is good before you do bounds.

For single leg work, you should keep it for now if you have room. It's pretty nice for imbalances/stability.

PointerRyan · « **Reply #47 on:** March 31, 2012, 05:45:15 am »

Hmm so i guess whenever i do layups i do not slack but take opportunity to practice my jump?so squat jumps, how down should i go? Do i do it in a consecutive manner or reset every rep? If the latter do i make it may effort, meaning some rest between reps or do it continuously? How many reps should i aim for?would squat jump take the place of my usual may effort jumpingo? Or maybe i replace may effort jump with squat jump on my non workout days, which would be wednesday? Also stiff legged ankle hops, aim for about the same reps like mr tuck jump? Btw i dont really get high in sl ankle hops. That normal? Or that shows my terrible level of reactivity?thanks again

PointerRyan · « **Reply #48 on:** March 31, 2012, 05:47:58 am »

Hmm so i guess whenever i do layups i do not slack but take opportunity to practice my jump?so squat jumps, how down should i go? Do i do it in a consecutive manner or reset every rep? If the latter do i make it may effort, meaning some rest between reps or do it continuously? How many reps should i aim for?would squat jump take the place of my usual may effort jumpingo? Or maybe i replace may effort jump with squat jump on my non workout days, which would be wednesday? Also stiff legged ankle hops, aim for about the same reps like mr tuck jump? Btw i dont really get high in sl ankle hops. That normal? Or that shows my terrible level of reactivity?thanks again

Daballa100 · « **Reply #49 on:** March 31, 2012, 06:54:38 pm »

Quote from: PointerRyan on March 31, 2012, 05:47:58 am

Hmm so i guess whenever i do layups i do not slack but take opportunity to practice my jump?so squat jumps, how down should i go? Do i do it in a consecutive manner or reset every rep? If the latter do i make it may effort, meaning some rest between reps or do it continuously? How many reps should i aim for?would squat jump take the place of my usual may effort jumpingo? Or maybe i replace may effort jump with squat jump on my non workout days, which would be wednesday? Also stiff legged ankle hops, aim for about the same reps like mr tuck jump? Btw i dont really get high in sl ankle hops. That normal? Or that shows my terrible level of reactivity?thanks again

You can do that if you want, but you'll have to deal with the fact that your single leg jump won't go up as fast as your 2 leg jump even with that idea. Watch you're volume too. Single leg jumps can be rough on your ankles/knees in high amounts. Just do a few(by that I mean like 5-10 each leg or something) lay-ups after a good warm-up. Lay-ups in-game won't always be as high as possible due to the defense, how you move/drive, etc, so you don't want to do lay-ups with max height all the time either.

Squat jumps should be consecutive, with good rhythm. Your depth should just be like a jump, if you want good jumps.

Squat jumps shouldn't take the place of max effort jumping, just keep doing ME jumps, and you will be fine.

For the height on the stiff leg ankle hops, it might be either poor reactivity, or not enough arm swing. I don't know because I haven't seen you, but use arm swing on all of your plyo exercises, except for squat jumps(no arms obviously). Also, even though it 's a "stiff" leg hop, you shouldn't lock out your knees.

PointerRyan · « **Reply #50 on:** March 31, 2012, 09:44:51 pm »

right yeah true cant get high al lthe time in game.

hmm so for the squat jump, i'm thinking we're getting a different picture here. how do you perform your squat jump? i'm guessing hands behind head and do the jump since you said no arm swing?

so anyways, do i put ME as my first ex? or i could put MR tuck jumps first, then ME jumps, followed by squat jumps and stiff legged ankle hops?

how that sounds? and yeah my sl ankle hops, just checked out how andrew does it i did it wrong. wil lsee how high i go tmrw

thanks again

J-DUB · « **Reply #51 on:** April 01, 2012, 05:46:01 am »

THE MOST ANNOYING NEVER FUCKING ENDING THREAD ON ADARQ.ORG

pointeryan- hey guys Im just looking for somebody to talk to that wont tell me to just simply get stronger cuz that isnt good enuf i needz moarrr!

daballa100- hey bro im 15 year old just like you WITH THE EXACT SAME FUCKING STATS but ive read ALOT and this could be my chance to get some attention and + 1's on my posts!

pointeryan- uh cool man....... uh............ FUCK IT THAT WORKS FOR ME!

PointerRyan · « **Reply #52 on:** April 01, 2012, 08:02:03 am »

Quote from: J-DUB on April 01, 2012, 05:46:01 am

THE MOST ANNOYING NEVER FUCKING ENDING THREAD ON ADARQ.ORG

pointeryan- hey guys Im just looking for somebody to talk to that wont tell me to just simply get stronger cuz that isnt good enuf i needz moarrr!

daballa100- hey bro im 15 year old just like you WITH THE EXACT SAME FUCKING STATS but ive read ALOT and this could be my chance to get some attention and + 1's on my posts!

pointeryan- uh cool man....... uh............ FUCK IT THAT WORKS FOR ME!

PointerRyan · « **Reply #53 on:** April 01, 2012, 08:10:49 am »

Quote from: Daballa100 on March 17, 2012, 12:41:16 pm

First of all, I agree with Dreyth, parallel or lower is best because you'll know what good depth is. That's why I like like full squats(personally, people are different), you don't have to judge depth if you hit max ROM every time. Half is cool if you are tall/lanky(long femurs/back), or you have a pre-existing injury that causes pain at deeper depths, like Adarqui's SI joint/hamstring tendon, or something like FAI.

oh yeah just wondering if my back cant maintain straight if i do full squats, i should avoid it right? still funny how although it rounded a little i felt no tension in my back when i went down too fast and went atg.

Daballa100 · « **Reply #54 on:** April 01, 2012, 09:28:28 am »

Lmao, dude, J-dub, calm down man. All you seem to do is make posts hating on people. You assume that I have the same stats as him, and you say I'm 15, when I'm actually closer to 17(big difference in puberty). Even if I post my stats, you'll probably claim them to be "e-stats" or whatever unless I have a video. You can keep thinking what you want, but I could be asking you these questions. Who are you? What are your stats? How old are you? We both can't answer without a video up to prove it, but at least I'm helping someone. That is what matters. What are you doing for anybody by posting in this manner?

Also, if I wanted to increase my post count, I would make my posts much shorter(look at my longer responses a couple pages ago), and focus less time on one person. It wouldn't make sense for me to post in just this thread to buff up my posts.

You don't even have to read my posts/PointerRyan's. Just ignore it, like everybody else on the forum. I'll admit, this thread is getting kinda long, and most of these posts should be in PointerRyan's journal instead.

@PointerRyan I'll answer in your journal because of this ^^

J-DUB · « **Reply #55 on:** April 01, 2012, 11:40:51 am »

Quote from: Daballa100 on April 01, 2012, 09:28:28 am

Lmao, dude, J-dub, calm down man. All you seem to do is make posts hating on people. You assume that I have the same stats as him, and you say I'm 15, when I'm actually closer to 17(big difference in puberty). Even if I post my stats, you'll probably claim them to be "e-stats" or whatever unless I have a video. You can keep thinking what you want, but I could be asking you these questions. Who are you? What are your stats? How old are you? We both can't answer without a video up to prove it, but at least I'm helping someone. That is what matters. What are you doing for anybody by posting in this manner?

Also, if I wanted to increase my post count, I would make my posts much shorter(look at my longer responses a couple pages ago), and focus less time on one person. It wouldn't make sense for me to post in just this thread to buff up my posts.

You don't even have to read my posts/PointerRyan's. Just ignore it, like everybody else on the forum. I'll admit, this thread is getting kinda long, and most of these posts should be in PointerRyan's journal instead.

@PointerRyan I'll answer in your journal because of this ^^

Quote from: Daballa100 on April 07, 2011, 09:49:12 pm

Yo, what up, I'm a HS sophomore baller from Michigan. That's pretty much as far as I'll go in terms of giving personal info.

So I've been researching about different training methods for basketball, vertical jump training, strength training etc. for a long time, but I've never seen a forum with so much good info before. I'm an aspiring S&C coach just to let y'all know.

I'm not gonna spend time posting stats and stuff, cuzz honestly, they suck (at best maybe like 25in. full approach vert. touching rim on a good day). I'm a weak son of a b****. I've read a lot about training, read stuff like the VJB, stuff from Defrancostraining, and some stuff by Jacob Hiller and Adam Linkwhatever and TONS of other coaches/trainers that are affiliates, cuz they spam like hell on my email. The latter 2 I've dropped from my resources, because I've never actually learned anything from them.

Anyways, yeah, that's me. Might or might not post too much on forums, but this place is pretty damn cool.

mY BAD dude i DIdnt reAlIze you had read dEfrancos, LINKENaugeR, HILLER, and TONS of others, and that you were 16 yrs old with a 25 inch rvj and a weak sOB, and no videos or pictures. That makes my last statements completely Irrelevant and I wish to retract my post in its entirety.

Daballa100 · « **Reply #56 on:** April 01, 2012, 01:01:43 pm »

Anybody can dig up information and find my first post on this forum from a year ago.

In the past I used to think people like Defranco, Hiller, Linkenauger, etc. were very knowledgeable and I read all of their stuff. I believe they still are, since they actually train high level athletes(defranco at least).

I now read articles/books from many other coaches/professors, so my knowledge is more diversified than "tnation" author's and vertical jump "experts." A lot of knowledge can be learned in one year.

My best vert since that post is 32 inches.

I'm pretty sure you're a troll, and you're wasting my time and your's by bringing my "reputation" down. I'm defending myself, but if you keep doing this, I'll just ignore you like every other troll.

Edit: WTF???!!! What is this crap?

http://www.adarq.org/forum/progress-journals-experimental-routines/j-dub%27s-journal/

Quote from: J-DUB on July 07, 2011, 11:01:16 pm

Quote from: LanceSTS on July 07, 2011, 10:53:07 pm
Quote from: LanceSTS on July 07, 2011, 10:52:02 pm
Quote from: StuckInTheAir on July 07, 2011, 07:55:46 pm
Quote from: J-DUB on July 07, 2011, 03:39:30 pm
Bench Press(Rest Pause): 3x8,4,2 @ 115lbs
-I am going to move up the weight next session.

move weight up if you want, but personally, I wouldn't move up the weight before you can hit 10 reps on your first set or 20 reps all together.

why did you delete your jounal AGAIN freshnikez, theanswer, jdub? thats like 3 x right after adarq already told you not to do it again?

hey bro, relax. I delete it because my significant other (boyfriend) gets jealous when these other guys comment to me. Yes im gay and i know that you guys gay bash so have fun but fuck you all. anyways, im tired of having these arguments over whether or not im "seeing" stuckintheair and why he is helping me. I will do what i like, its MY jounal lancests you bastard!

Quote from: BMully on July 15, 2011, 05:05:07 pm

Quote from: J-DUB on July 08, 2011, 12:03:41 am
Id just like to point out that this journal has basically no progress in it, no updates other than excuses, of which there are more of than lifts, and this guy is pathetic and strongly resembles an avian creature that has not evolved from the prehistoric era and is unable to fly.

http://www.adarq.org/forum/progress-journals-experimental-routines/the-answer%27s-log/

^You asked me for a program by PM, in fact you asked everybody

http://www.adarq.org/forum/quitters-deserters/freshnikez%27s-journal/#top

^banned for asking to take down your journal, and being an overall Idiot

I'll just leave this here

You're not a troll, just plain weird man. I was kinda pissed off before, but I'm good now.

*sigh*
People these days.

J-DUB · « **Reply #57 on:** April 01, 2012, 04:17:18 pm »

Quote from: Daballa100 on April 01, 2012, 01:01:43 pm

Anybody can dig up information and find my first post on this forum from a year ago.

In the past I used to think people like Defranco, Hiller, Linkenauger, etc. were very knowledgeable and I read all of their stuff. I believe they still are, since they actually train high level athletes(defranco at least).

I now read articles/books from many other coaches/professors, so my knowledge is more diversified than "tnation" author's and vertical jump "experts." A lot of knowledge can be learned in one year.

My best vert since that post is 32 inches.

I'm pretty sure you're a troll, and you're wasting my time and your's by bringing my "reputation" down. I'm defending myself, but if you keep doing this, I'll just ignore you like every other troll.

Edit: WTF???!!! What is this crap?

http://www.adarq.org/forum/progress-journals-experimental-routines/j-dub%27s-journal/

Quote from: J-DUB on July 07, 2011, 11:01:16 pm
Quote from: LanceSTS on July 07, 2011, 10:53:07 pm
Quote from: LanceSTS on July 07, 2011, 10:52:02 pm
Quote from: StuckInTheAir on July 07, 2011, 07:55:46 pm
Quote from: J-DUB on July 07, 2011, 03:39:30 pm
Bench Press(Rest Pause): 3x8,4,2 @ 115lbs
-I am going to move up the weight next session.

move weight up if you want, but personally, I wouldn't move up the weight before you can hit 10 reps on your first set or 20 reps all together.

why did you delete your jounal AGAIN freshnikez, theanswer, jdub? thats like 3 x right after adarq already told you not to do it again?

hey bro, relax. I delete it because my significant other (boyfriend) gets jealous when these other guys comment to me. Yes im gay and i know that you guys gay bash so have fun but fuck you all. anyways, im tired of having these arguments over whether or not im "seeing" stuckintheair and why he is helping me. I will do what i like, its MY jounal lancests you bastard!

Quote from: BMully on July 15, 2011, 05:05:07 pm
Quote from: J-DUB on July 08, 2011, 12:03:41 am
Id just like to point out that this journal has basically no progress in it, no updates other than excuses, of which there are more of than lifts, and this guy is pathetic and strongly resembles an avian creature that has not evolved from the prehistoric era and is unable to fly.

http://www.adarq.org/forum/progress-journals-experimental-routines/the-answer%27s-log/

^You asked me for a program by PM, in fact you asked everybody

http://www.adarq.org/forum/quitters-deserters/freshnikez%27s-journal/#top

^banned for asking to take down your journal, and being an overall Idiot

I'll just leave this here

You're not a troll, just plain weird man. I was kinda pissed off before, but I'm good now.

*sigh*
People these days.

Youre a 16 year old beginner going around giving advice like youre Verkoshansky. You need to be answering less and asking more questions. Start posting some videos and pics if you want people to take you seriously, train for a while, then start giving out advice.

Im not doing anything to your "reputation", you dont have a reputation. Youre a little kid who just started training, who reads a lot and watches mobility wod's, nothing Ive said changes that, and that is your "reputation".

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