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Which one do you prefer?

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2011, 12:04:27 pm »
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Pushing a Heavy object - Right foot forward
2-foot jump plant - LR
Kick - Left leg
Starting sprint stance - Right leg forward
1 foot jumping leg - Right leg

I'm right handed and jump much higher off my right leg than my left. Also, my handle (such as it is) is much better with my left hand than with my right. When I do jumps at the rim I reach with my left hand, because my shoulder is higher on that side so I can reach higher.

The differences are huge, too. I was never much of a soccer player but when I'm messing around left leg is a lot more powerful and a LOT more dexterous (see what I did there?) than right. Even popping a basketball up to myself off the ground, left foot is automatic. Dribbling with my left hand is MUCH more comfortable than with my right hand, although admittedly I suck at both. LR plant is probably twice as good as RL plant, shit just gets awkward when I try to go RL. Sprint isn't quite so much of a difference in terms of which foot starts forward, but in a race I would definitely do right foot forward.

Interesting thread.

Shit is just confusing bro...you sure you ain't left handed...lol. Maybe your partially ambi-dexterous or something....or maybe ambi-sinister!!!
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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2011, 12:06:44 pm »
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Pushing a Heavy object - Right foot forward
2-foot jump plant - LR
Kick - Left leg
Starting sprint stance - Right leg forward
1 foot jumping leg - Right leg

All the bolded stuff suggests you should jump RL. Let me ask you something else: what way do you stand on a skateboard? Although I don't have a skate or use one, when I fooled around with one I was beyond any doubt standing on it in a LR stance, with the left leg on it and the right leg pushing into the ground. That's solid with my natural LR plant.

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2011, 12:27:27 pm »
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Pushing a Heavy object - Right foot forward
2-foot jump plant - LR
Kick - Left leg
Starting sprint stance - Right leg forward
1 foot jumping leg - Right leg

All the bolded stuff suggests you should jump RL. Let me ask you something else: what way do you stand on a skateboard? Although I don't have a skate or use one, when I fooled around with one I was beyond any doubt standing on it in a LR stance, with the left leg on it and the right leg pushing into the ground. That's solid with my natural LR plant.

And yet, my RL jumping is like a French person trying to throw a baseball. Clumsy and uncoordinated and 50% of the time the ball goes straight into the ground. Seriously, half the time I try to jump RL, I end up either planting with my left foot anyway, despite my best intentions, or doing a horrifically awkward simultaneous plant. It's embarrassing. Same goes for trying to jump of my left foot, when I try single-leg jumps. Half the time I end up jumping off my right foot anway.

My right leg is superior in strength movements, btw, and it's bigger than the left. The last time I got a massage, the therapist made a comment immediately about how much more defined my right leg is than my left.

I'm the same as you on a skateboard. Normal stance.
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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2011, 12:33:31 pm »
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For what its worth I cant stakeboard either way but as far as my stance goes I without question have to keep my right foot on the skateboard. If I do I am able to skate slowly.

If I put my left foot on the skateboard I will lose control and immediately fall. Im curious to know why almost everything indicates I should be a RL planter but somehow ended up becoming a LR planter.

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2011, 12:37:07 pm »
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You ended a LR planter because you probably jump a lot to block shots with your right arm. If you do that, you're going to jump LR so that the right arm is forward to reach towards the jump shooter. Also, shooting off the dribble is usually a LR plant so that the right arm is a bit forward. That skateboard thing, and pretty much anything else - is very indicative of your natural stable position. A stable position is a good position to jump off from.

Whenever I look at Vince (Carter) jumping for a block, he plants RL and goes up with his left hand, because he naturally plants RL. And you can see that in his block shot jumps as well.

PS. My therapist commented on how much more developed my right forearm is. No idea why.

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2011, 12:46:04 pm »
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Well its going to be an interesting experiment seeing if I get any gains from switching my plant. Another really weird thing is that whenever I try doing reverse/360 dunks I have always done a RL plant :S Whatever no point over analyzing it anymore.

PS. My therapist commented on how much more developed my right forearm is. No idea why.

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2011, 01:24:59 pm »
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Yeah, I do that too. I feel like stumbling if I try a 360 or over the back with a LR plant...

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2011, 03:10:03 pm »
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You ended a LR planter because you probably jump a lot to block shots with your right arm. If you do that, you're going to jump LR so that the right arm is forward to reach towards the jump shooter. Also, shooting off the dribble is usually a LR plant so that the right arm is a bit forward. That skateboard thing, and pretty much anything else - is very indicative of your natural stable position. A stable position is a good position to jump off from.

Whenever I look at Vince (Carter) jumping for a block, he plants RL and goes up with his left hand, because he naturally plants RL. And you can see that in his block shot jumps as well.

PS. My therapist commented on how much more developed my right forearm is. No idea why.

I don't play basketball.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2011, 03:55:37 pm »
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You ended a LR planter because you probably jump a lot to block shots with your right arm. If you do that, you're going to jump LR so that the right arm is forward to reach towards the jump shooter. Also, shooting off the dribble is usually a LR plant so that the right arm is a bit forward. That skateboard thing, and pretty much anything else - is very indicative of your natural stable position. A stable position is a good position to jump off from.

Whenever I look at Vince (Carter) jumping for a block, he plants RL and goes up with his left hand, because he naturally plants RL. And you can see that in his block shot jumps as well.

PS. My therapist commented on how much more developed my right forearm is. No idea why.

I don't play basketball.

You could've spare both me and you some time and offer the answer to the question "what do you play?"

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2011, 05:20:10 pm »
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You ended a LR planter because you probably jump a lot to block shots with your right arm. If you do that, you're going to jump LR so that the right arm is forward to reach towards the jump shooter. Also, shooting off the dribble is usually a LR plant so that the right arm is a bit forward. That skateboard thing, and pretty much anything else - is very indicative of your natural stable position. A stable position is a good position to jump off from.

Whenever I look at Vince (Carter) jumping for a block, he plants RL and goes up with his left hand, because he naturally plants RL. And you can see that in his block shot jumps as well.

PS. My therapist commented on how much more developed my right forearm is. No idea why.

I don't play basketball.

You could've spare both me and you some time and offer the answer to the question "what do you play?"

Didn't think you'd be interested. I play ultimate frisbee, although I'm taking a break at the moment to try to become a better athlete without the risk of spraining my ankle again. FWIW, as a right hander, my left foot is my pivot/plant foot for throws.
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sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2011, 05:25:27 pm »
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You really play that? If so, what do you need to be good at for that? Short distance sprints? Throwing power? What?

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2011, 02:17:24 pm »
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You really play that? If so, what do you need to be good at for that? Short distance sprints? Throwing power? What?

Short distance speed/acceleration and COD/quickness are most important, followed by strong cardio and lactic acid tolerance. Points are rarely longer than 2-3 minutes, but they're all out. Hops help a lot, too.

Once you reach a certain minimal level of strength the throwing power becomes about technique more than anything else. I know lots of people that can throw the length of the field (myself included). It's much more about angle and accuracy past a certain minimal point. It's like a three-pointer. Anyone can get the ball to go from the three-point line to the basket, but not many people can get it to go in the basket consistently.

We're getting wayyyy off-topic.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

- Avishek

sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2011, 03:47:37 pm »
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Right-left tommahawking the sh!t outta that rim:-x Or since my right hand si close to falling off i can dunk right left and get even more over the rim with my left hand. Left-right is lower, but because of technique problems, if i do it without thinking in a game for example i dunk it pretty easily. Also i jump very high off my right leg and even did a facial off it although i favour my left leg...

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2011, 04:52:31 pm »
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I plant LR and my left leg is a lot weaker than my right. Would it help to jump RL?

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Re: LR vs RL plant for Dunking
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2011, 06:23:48 pm »
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My sincere advice is to have someone film you while you play. You can then observe what's your natural plant by looking how you plant when you jump for rebounds, blocked shots etc because you're acting on instinct there and not thinking about how to jump.