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Blog Section => ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A => Topic started by: Jon on February 12, 2011, 05:46:32 pm
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This is more of a general question for everyone. If you could choose which one would you go with in relation to dunking (being right handed).
My natural jump is a LR plant. Without the ball I jump exactly the same with both plants although my RL is definitely less coordinated. When Im dunking I get ~2-3" lower RL and the coordination is even worse. My right leg is definitely stronger then my left so in the back of my mind im always wondering:
If I never practice RL jumping, but still get the same height without the ball, coupled with the fact that I have a stronger right leg, coupled with the fact that I can handle a higher approach speed RL would it be a good idea to put in the work and make the switch before I start jumping/dunking in the summer? (Im thinking of practicing submax jumps, approaching/planting without jumping, and some other drills).
It also seems that for right handers most people believe RL looks better... What do you guys think?
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I agree with what you say... I naturally plant LR, do depth jumps LR etc, but I like to jump RL. It feels "nicer". I have a weaker right leg though. Or, I think so.
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I'm in the same boat as raptor. I've never dunked RL, but I think I could have if I practiced. But I don't think it's worth for me making the switch because my left leg is both stronger and more elastic (since I used to be a one legged jumper). I wish I were better at RL naturally :(
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There are a handful of LR dunks that if you do right, they look cool. Take a look at Myree Bowden or AUT for examples. Heck, even Kobe.
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That always seems to be the case, both of you guys and everyone Iv talked to that plant LR have a stronger left leg.
While I have a stronger right leg to the point where I jump 2-3" higher SLVJ then I do off my left, and I almost never practice jumping off my right. It seems as if making the switch to a RL plant might be an option worth exploring for myself.
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Yes it does. I want you to pay attention to your defensive stance, to how you set yourself feet wise to push a heavy object (a car for example), off what leg do you depth drop, with what leg you kick etc. These are all good indicators of what is the "control" or "rotation" leg.
For example, when I defend in the defensive stance, I am positioned in a LR stance so my right arm is forward so I can jump for a block with my right arm forward. When I'm to push a car, I put my left foot forward so I can drive on it, so basically that's also a LR stance. When I depth drop, I drop off the box from the right leg. When I kick, I use my right leg to kick so the left leg is used as a rotation leg (same as in a LR plant).
Like I said, these are good indicators of what your body automatically prefers.
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Pushing a Heavy object - Right foot forward
Depth Drop - Drop off Right Leg
Kick - Right leg (not because I balance off my left leg, much more power/coordination available on my right leg)
Starting sprint stance - Right Leg forward
Life or Death 1 foot jumping leg - Right leg
I also have fairly minimal knee bend + gct which leads me to believe my right leg isnt being used to its full potential.
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Pushing and sprint stance are pretty indicative you "should" plant RL...
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wtf....i'm the complete opposite...
I do everything with my left leg..in terms of one foot jumping i'm waaaaaaaaay smoother off my left leg...probably 'cos i've been doing that for years tho..most right handed ballers I know are left leg jumpers...
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The only right handed guy I know that's jumping from his right leg when dunking is JR Smith...
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Yea I know it's weird. I grew up playing soccer - almost all right leg, didn't play basketball at all till I was 18 (22 now), and never attempted jumping till I was 19 so those things could be contributing factors.
Raptor - another guy is jrue holiday. He definitely favors his right leg by a mile but yea not too many.
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Yea I know it's weird. I grew up playing soccer - almost all right leg, didn't play basketball at all till I was 18 (22 now), and never attempted jumping till I was 19 so those things could be contributing factors.
Raptor - another guy is jrue holiday. He definitely favors his right leg by a mile but yea not too many.
If you kick with your right leg in soccer, then you rotate on the left leg to kick exactly as in a LR plant. So your natural plant should be LR. However, trying to touch something over head might change the mechanics a bit...
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Well iv been thinking about this on and off for 2 years. I think I'm going to go rl and see how it pans out. Seeing as I jump exactly the same rl/lr without the ball while never practicing my rl, the worst case scenario is getting the same air with better looking dunks (my opinion lol).
Ill start jumping/dunking mid-late may. I'll include the exercises I'll be doing to change it on my journal, starting today. :-\
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Pushing a Heavy object - Right foot forward
2-foot jump plant - LR
Kick - Left leg
Starting sprint stance - Right leg forward
1 foot jumping leg - Right leg
I'm right handed and jump much higher off my right leg than my left. Also, my handle (such as it is) is much better with my left hand than with my right. When I do jumps at the rim I reach with my left hand, because my shoulder is higher on that side so I can reach higher.
The differences are huge, too. I was never much of a soccer player but when I'm messing around left leg is a lot more powerful and a LOT more dexterous (see what I did there?) than right. Even popping a basketball up to myself off the ground, left foot is automatic. Dribbling with my left hand is MUCH more comfortable than with my right hand, although admittedly I suck at both. LR plant is probably twice as good as RL plant, shit just gets awkward when I try to go RL. Sprint isn't quite so much of a difference in terms of which foot starts forward, but in a race I would definitely do right foot forward.
Interesting thread.
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Pushing a Heavy object - Right foot forward
2-foot jump plant - LR
Kick - Left leg
Starting sprint stance - Right leg forward
1 foot jumping leg - Right leg
I'm right handed and jump much higher off my right leg than my left. Also, my handle (such as it is) is much better with my left hand than with my right. When I do jumps at the rim I reach with my left hand, because my shoulder is higher on that side so I can reach higher.
The differences are huge, too. I was never much of a soccer player but when I'm messing around left leg is a lot more powerful and a LOT more dexterous (see what I did there?) than right. Even popping a basketball up to myself off the ground, left foot is automatic. Dribbling with my left hand is MUCH more comfortable than with my right hand, although admittedly I suck at both. LR plant is probably twice as good as RL plant, shit just gets awkward when I try to go RL. Sprint isn't quite so much of a difference in terms of which foot starts forward, but in a race I would definitely do right foot forward.
Interesting thread.
As far as the dribbling goes, Im exactly the same. If given the opportunity I will drive with my left hand + go left 100% of the time. Also breakaway/wide open layups I will go off my right foot and lay it up with my left hand 100% of the time. :-\
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Pushing a Heavy object - Right foot forward
2-foot jump plant - LR
Kick - Left leg
Starting sprint stance - Right leg forward
1 foot jumping leg - Right leg
I'm right handed and jump much higher off my right leg than my left. Also, my handle (such as it is) is much better with my left hand than with my right. When I do jumps at the rim I reach with my left hand, because my shoulder is higher on that side so I can reach higher.
The differences are huge, too. I was never much of a soccer player but when I'm messing around left leg is a lot more powerful and a LOT more dexterous (see what I did there?) than right. Even popping a basketball up to myself off the ground, left foot is automatic. Dribbling with my left hand is MUCH more comfortable than with my right hand, although admittedly I suck at both. LR plant is probably twice as good as RL plant, shit just gets awkward when I try to go RL. Sprint isn't quite so much of a difference in terms of which foot starts forward, but in a race I would definitely do right foot forward.
Interesting thread.
Shit is just confusing bro...you sure you ain't left handed...lol. Maybe your partially ambi-dexterous or something....or maybe ambi-sinister!!!
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Pushing a Heavy object - Right foot forward
2-foot jump plant - LR
Kick - Left leg
Starting sprint stance - Right leg forward
1 foot jumping leg - Right leg
All the bolded stuff suggests you should jump RL. Let me ask you something else: what way do you stand on a skateboard? Although I don't have a skate or use one, when I fooled around with one I was beyond any doubt standing on it in a LR stance, with the left leg on it and the right leg pushing into the ground. That's solid with my natural LR plant.
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Pushing a Heavy object - Right foot forward
2-foot jump plant - LR
Kick - Left leg
Starting sprint stance - Right leg forward
1 foot jumping leg - Right leg
All the bolded stuff suggests you should jump RL. Let me ask you something else: what way do you stand on a skateboard? Although I don't have a skate or use one, when I fooled around with one I was beyond any doubt standing on it in a LR stance, with the left leg on it and the right leg pushing into the ground. That's solid with my natural LR plant.
And yet, my RL jumping is like a French person trying to throw a baseball. Clumsy and uncoordinated and 50% of the time the ball goes straight into the ground. Seriously, half the time I try to jump RL, I end up either planting with my left foot anyway, despite my best intentions, or doing a horrifically awkward simultaneous plant. It's embarrassing. Same goes for trying to jump of my left foot, when I try single-leg jumps. Half the time I end up jumping off my right foot anway.
My right leg is superior in strength movements, btw, and it's bigger than the left. The last time I got a massage, the therapist made a comment immediately about how much more defined my right leg is than my left.
I'm the same as you on a skateboard. Normal stance.
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For what its worth I cant stakeboard either way but as far as my stance goes I without question have to keep my right foot on the skateboard. If I do I am able to skate slowly.
If I put my left foot on the skateboard I will lose control and immediately fall. Im curious to know why almost everything indicates I should be a RL planter but somehow ended up becoming a LR planter.
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You ended a LR planter because you probably jump a lot to block shots with your right arm. If you do that, you're going to jump LR so that the right arm is forward to reach towards the jump shooter. Also, shooting off the dribble is usually a LR plant so that the right arm is a bit forward. That skateboard thing, and pretty much anything else - is very indicative of your natural stable position. A stable position is a good position to jump off from.
Whenever I look at Vince (Carter) jumping for a block, he plants RL and goes up with his left hand, because he naturally plants RL. And you can see that in his block shot jumps as well.
PS. My therapist commented on how much more developed my right forearm is. No idea why.
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Well its going to be an interesting experiment seeing if I get any gains from switching my plant. Another really weird thing is that whenever I try doing reverse/360 dunks I have always done a RL plant :S Whatever no point over analyzing it anymore.
PS. My therapist commented on how much more developed my right forearm is. No idea why.
(http://rangerland.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/iconsex05.gif) :ninja:
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Yeah, I do that too. I feel like stumbling if I try a 360 or over the back with a LR plant...
PS.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2020/2187520791_54d7bf64c6_o.jpg)
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You ended a LR planter because you probably jump a lot to block shots with your right arm. If you do that, you're going to jump LR so that the right arm is forward to reach towards the jump shooter. Also, shooting off the dribble is usually a LR plant so that the right arm is a bit forward. That skateboard thing, and pretty much anything else - is very indicative of your natural stable position. A stable position is a good position to jump off from.
Whenever I look at Vince (Carter) jumping for a block, he plants RL and goes up with his left hand, because he naturally plants RL. And you can see that in his block shot jumps as well.
PS. My therapist commented on how much more developed my right forearm is. No idea why.
I don't play basketball.
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You ended a LR planter because you probably jump a lot to block shots with your right arm. If you do that, you're going to jump LR so that the right arm is forward to reach towards the jump shooter. Also, shooting off the dribble is usually a LR plant so that the right arm is a bit forward. That skateboard thing, and pretty much anything else - is very indicative of your natural stable position. A stable position is a good position to jump off from.
Whenever I look at Vince (Carter) jumping for a block, he plants RL and goes up with his left hand, because he naturally plants RL. And you can see that in his block shot jumps as well.
PS. My therapist commented on how much more developed my right forearm is. No idea why.
I don't play basketball.
You could've spare both me and you some time and offer the answer to the question "what do you play?"
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You ended a LR planter because you probably jump a lot to block shots with your right arm. If you do that, you're going to jump LR so that the right arm is forward to reach towards the jump shooter. Also, shooting off the dribble is usually a LR plant so that the right arm is a bit forward. That skateboard thing, and pretty much anything else - is very indicative of your natural stable position. A stable position is a good position to jump off from.
Whenever I look at Vince (Carter) jumping for a block, he plants RL and goes up with his left hand, because he naturally plants RL. And you can see that in his block shot jumps as well.
PS. My therapist commented on how much more developed my right forearm is. No idea why.
I don't play basketball.
You could've spare both me and you some time and offer the answer to the question "what do you play?"
Didn't think you'd be interested. I play ultimate frisbee, although I'm taking a break at the moment to try to become a better athlete without the risk of spraining my ankle again. FWIW, as a right hander, my left foot is my pivot/plant foot for throws.
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You really play that? If so, what do you need to be good at for that? Short distance sprints? Throwing power? What?
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You really play that? If so, what do you need to be good at for that? Short distance sprints? Throwing power? What?
Short distance speed/acceleration and COD/quickness are most important, followed by strong cardio and lactic acid tolerance. Points are rarely longer than 2-3 minutes, but they're all out. Hops help a lot, too.
Once you reach a certain minimal level of strength the throwing power becomes about technique more than anything else. I know lots of people that can throw the length of the field (myself included). It's much more about angle and accuracy past a certain minimal point. It's like a three-pointer. Anyone can get the ball to go from the three-point line to the basket, but not many people can get it to go in the basket consistently.
We're getting wayyyy off-topic.
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Right-left tommahawking the sh!t outta that rim:-x Or since my right hand si close to falling off i can dunk right left and get even more over the rim with my left hand. Left-right is lower, but because of technique problems, if i do it without thinking in a game for example i dunk it pretty easily. Also i jump very high off my right leg and even did a facial off it although i favour my left leg...
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I plant LR and my left leg is a lot weaker than my right. Would it help to jump RL?
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My sincere advice is to have someone film you while you play. You can then observe what's your natural plant by looking how you plant when you jump for rebounds, blocked shots etc because you're acting on instinct there and not thinking about how to jump.