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Sport Specific Training Discussion => Track & Field => Topic started by: FP on February 08, 2023, 04:52:12 pm

Title: Bromell vs Lyles 60m
Post by: FP on February 08, 2023, 04:52:12 pm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWpyNcoOyes

Really love this matchup. Bromell has been a long time favorite, his form was something I thought was really intriguing a few years back. He had this perfectly upright, hips perfectly stable sort of form that no one else did.
It looks like recently he has taken a more rounded upper back to utilize the upper traps to help with the arm swing, which I'm not sure about. Intuitively I believe it could lengthen the arm swing at the start to better counterbalance the longer GCT's of the leg drive, but I could be wrong.

Lyles has a kind of elegance to his run, have some theories but not certain of any of them, so will not share. What I can say definitively though: compare their knee action and angles at the last 10m at the peak of their swing phases.
I think Lyles has a kind of looseness at that joint at that moment, and longer strides with possibly a slight APT related to that.
Bromell keeps the knee tight at peak swing phase, and that relates to shorter strides, higher stride frequency, and more PPT. I think there's something to both techniques. I do believe that Lyles technique is more energy efficient, which makes sense given his 200m prowess.
Title: Re: Bromell vs Lyles 60m
Post by: FP on February 09, 2023, 05:54:56 pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dum9tt2gYDE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dum9tt2gYDE)

Holy effing crap, he literally says "during the last 10m i feel like my knee drive fell off a little bit". Extremely similar to my original insight about this
Title: Re: Bromell vs Lyles 60m
Post by: CoolColJ on February 10, 2023, 09:23:51 am: Video not available here
Title: Re: Bromell vs Lyles 60m
Post by: seifullaah73 on February 10, 2023, 12:56:40 pm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=polBGxwsE9I
Title: Re: Bromell vs Lyles 60m
Post by: seifullaah73 on February 13, 2023, 04:04:24 am: trayvon bromell just made up for his loss against lyles by dropping this bomb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMhLX8cuXyI

Then lyles false starts and christian coleman wins a different 60m race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGitRDVuyIA
Title: Re: Bromell vs Lyles 60m
Post by: FP on February 13, 2023, 09:41:37 pm: Quote from: seifullaah73 on February 13, 2023, 04:04:24 am
trayvon bromell just made up for his loss against lyles by dropping this bomb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMhLX8cuXyI

Then lyles false starts and christian coleman wins a different 60m race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGitRDVuyIA

Sick. I like how little swaying his shoulders have compared to everyone else. I don't know that that's necessarily a good thing but it's working for him and looks cool
Title: Re: Bromell vs Lyles 60m
Post by: FP on February 13, 2023, 10:01:00 pm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDwooptNWBM

Look at his mid/upper back at 0:13. Freaking enormous for a sprinter. He looks like Asafa Powell