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Title: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on July 28, 2017, 09:14:57 am
https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-world-championships

if you have the "olympics channel", which I just found out I have, they will be showing it all on there.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on July 28, 2017, 11:02:20 am
Nice, they will be showing it on the bbc channels and online. Excited. Bolt not doing the 200m as he sees the risk of losing it is quite high. Should be exciting.

100m prospects: degrasse, gatlin (little to some chance), yohan blake recovering well, new american talent and usain bolt.

Then you have van neekirk and his blasting away the competitions in the 400m and breaking records. I don't see kirani james or the american guy keeping up with him.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on July 28, 2017, 01:43:57 pm
Nice, they will be showing it on the bbc channels and online. Excited.

cool! ya me too.

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Bolt not doing the 200m as he sees the risk of losing it is quite high. Should be exciting.

guh that sux.. all the more reason he should be running 200m.

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100m prospects: degrasse, gatlin (little to some chance), yohan blake recovering well, new american talent and usain bolt.

Then you have van neekirk and his blasting away the competitions in the 400m and breaking records. I don't see kirani james or the american guy keeping up with him.

ya curious to see how WVN performs. that was an unreal performance last olympics.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2017, 03:19:31 pm
MO FARAH WARMING UP FOR 10k.

SOON!

also 100m heats soon, BOLT.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2017, 03:55:50 pm
bunch of false starts in heat 4 & 5 of 100m .. damn.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2017, 04:04:34 pm
bolt. 2 ez.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2017, 04:17:56 pm
10k final.

m0 m0 m0 farah.

got my cookie & green tea out.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2017, 04:34:03 pm
this race is AMAZING so far.. also i've never seen showmanship like this in a 5k/10k race, like m0 is doing..

i've said it a ton of times, people need to try and run FAST to DEATH (push him way under 27m for 10k) in order to try and beat him .. looks like they are testing out all kinds of strategies in this race .. it also seems like several racers from different countries are working together to beat him.

man if he ends up winning this with a PB .. will be unreal.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2017, 04:41:07 pm
man way too many commercial breaks.. really sucks.

:/

need to re-watch this race from the online footage.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2017, 04:45:30 pm
cheptegei has been pushing it the whole race .. he's the one I re-posted on IG because his running form is just so ridiculous.

Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 04, 2017, 04:51:53 pm
wow what a finish .. Mo got tripped up twice on the last lap, almost fell .. also stepped on the inside line, but I imagine it won't be a problem because he got roughed up twice.

then he just turned on the burners and toasted everyone.

Cheptegei got 2nd.

Sir Mo Farah
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: LBSS on August 05, 2017, 01:19:56 am
reminds me of that anecdote about milton berle, who had a legendarily huge cock. some guy challenged him to see whose was bigger, so they went in the bathroom and came out again a few seconds later. the guy looked disappointed. someone asked berle what happened and he said, "i just pulled out enough to win."
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 05, 2017, 08:48:45 am
reminds me of that anecdote about milton berle, who had a legendarily huge cock. some guy challenged him to see whose was bigger, so they went in the bathroom and came out again a few seconds later. the guy looked disappointed. someone asked berle what happened and he said, "i just pulled out enough to win."

wtf... lmao
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 05, 2017, 10:23:08 am
Why is degrasse not competing.  :uhhhfacepalm:

100m bolt may have had a bad start, but he seems to have a habit of doing this and I think it's just a strategy on his part to psyche the opponents.

It's going good so far.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 05, 2017, 10:25:43 am
Why is degrasse not competing.  :uhhhfacepalm:

got hurt this week :/

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100m bolt may have had a bad start, but he seems to have a habit of doing this and I think it's just a strategy on his part to psyche the opponents.

It's going good so far.

tbh I think he just has shit starts, compared to shorter 100m runners .. which are still amazing starts for someone of his build. I mean, I don't think he necessarily is going 100% on those starts yet, doesn't need too.. but still, he's had tons of bad starts. When he has a perfect start, he's in the ~9.5X-9.6X's lmao!
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 05, 2017, 10:26:44 am
WVN looked ridiculous @ 400m.. so easy for him. Bolt-level easiness.

:ibrunning:
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 05, 2017, 10:35:30 am
Gardiner looked good.. he went out FAST for 300m.

Gardiner vs WVN, the big show?

Still don't see anyone beating WVN though  :ninja:
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 05, 2017, 04:57:35 pm
YESSSS!!!!!!!! I am so happy for gatlin and feel bad for bolt. I didn't know gatlin had it in him but he managed to do it. It's just like the marquez win over pacquiao.

Gatlin deserved it over the negative booing from the crowd, this is a stick it moment to the crowd for booing him. Also that win he almost had before messing up and bolt winning, now gatlin finally wins and I am so pleased for him.

(http://i.imgur.com/kvOE5Dd.jpg)

EDIT: I just found bolt came third, coleman second. Ah well Bolt still a legend but so happy for gatlin.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 05, 2017, 08:53:26 pm
^^ i'm staying away from it until i see it, but i've heard about it from several different sources.

awesome screen cap of Gatlin .. I basically write off cheaters forever .. but, it is impressive if he's clean & got this W, at his "old age", and was able to defeat the King. Can't really hate on that.. plus he gets booed/shitted on all the time -> if he paid his dues and has stayed clean, that has to really suck.



Almaz_Ayana is a beast. self coached apparently too. Destroyed everyone yet again, in the women's 10k.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 05, 2017, 08:56:25 pm
some quotes from mo on his recent 10k win

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/40834447

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"It was one of the toughest races of my life," said Farah. "The guys gave it to me, it wasn't about Mo, it was about 'how do we beat Mo?'

"You had the Kenyans, the Ethiopians, the Ugandans, everybody working as a team against me. Fair play to them, they worked it hard and they chucked everything at me.

"At one point in the middle of the race I wasn't thinking I was going to lose, but I thought 'this is tough, this is tough'."
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 05, 2017, 10:17:36 pm
YESSSS!!!!!!!! I am so happy for gatlin and feel bad for bolt. I didn't know gatlin had it in him but he managed to do it. It's just like the marquez win over pacquiao.

Gatlin deserved it over the negative booing from the crowd, this is a stick it moment to the crowd for booing him. Also that win he almost had before messing up and bolt winning, now gatlin finally wins and I am so pleased for him.

(http://i.imgur.com/kvOE5Dd.jpg)

EDIT: I just found bolt came third, coleman second. Ah well Bolt still a legend but so happy for gatlin.

wow what a race..

and damn coleman is fast. this dude is burnin' every time i see him.

(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10938271.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/L-R-First-placed-US-athlete-Justin-Gat.jpg)

(http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10938495.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/World-Athletics-Championships.jpg)

damn.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 06, 2017, 11:00:17 am
I don't personally like drug cheats, but after paying his dues especially after the media keep attacking him as 2 time drug cheats, when the first one wouldn't really count it as intentional, but still you have to be very strict in everything. But after all he has done you can't keep attacking him.

I think the blame should be placed more the people giving the punishment that it should be life time ban, but the hard thing is to know he did it intentionally.

But ye good work from gatlin, usain has a good reaction but because he is tall the lean makes him slow down, so maybe coming upright a bit earlier may help him?

Coleman I don't know if he has the capabiities of getting below sub 9.8. But we'll see.
onto the relays for bolt.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 06, 2017, 03:03:10 pm
Michael johnson on point about how bbc media has potrayed gatlin as the villain since he became a threat to bolt in 2015 even when in 2012 he was not booed. But This steven cram a commentator of bbc sport will continue with his hate against gatlin.
When will they learn this is not going to help clean the sport.

Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 06, 2017, 06:12:23 pm
USA again take the gold in the 100m womans final, I thought that elaine thompson would win it and in a big way, but something happened and elained just backed down and slowed down. But so close between bowie and talou, great race. Just like gatlin got the win bowie gets in a win and what a lean to win it.
Just perfect. Great job.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: undoubtable on August 07, 2017, 01:19:39 pm
Personally I think it's very optimistic to believe that Bolt never doped. Not saying he definitely did but I wouldn't blindly cheer on Bolt and boo Gatlin, that seems unfair. Both are great athletes though that's for sure.

Absolutely love watching Coleman. I could literally watch his starts over and over again. He just beasts out of the blocks and its amazing.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 07, 2017, 01:42:56 pm
Reporter asked Bolt, gatlin, coleman in the press conference "The times this year seems to be way a bit slow compared to before, could this have anything to do with the more strict anti doping policies" and i'm paraphrasing

and bolt and gatlin became quite defensive and annoyed.....  :ninja:

I thought it was a pretty good question.....

I remember that. It makes you think of the times of around 9.6 seconds and now its stuck at 9.9, 9.8 best. But you can see why they would be defensive cos they are indirectly being accused of doping.

But I guess anyone would be annoyed if they were accused of doping even though they weren't so who knows, we take it with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 07, 2017, 03:03:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk_EAQooa24

it's a fair question for sure.. maybe not to bolt/gatlin/coleman in that moment, but, definitely a fair question overall.. times were getting insane, everyone running under 9.8, with 9.7's and 9.6's, even 9.5's for bolt.. all of that "fire" seemed to disappear. Now, a 9.8 and even a low 9.9 is back to winning everything.

so many people over the years got busted, including Tyson Gay & Gatlin himself, as well as several of Bolt's teammates.

Bolt's response was a bit over the top..



I still hope he's clean.

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_100ok.htm

Also, Blake kinda just "shows up" in 2012.. :ninja:
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 08, 2017, 12:03:53 am
women's triple jump was awesome.. great competition.

Caterine Ibarguen (sp?) is straight fire.

women's 1500m was dope too, Jenny Simpson caught that silver.. crazy come from behind 2nd & 3rd by Simpson and Semenya (sp?).

tomorrow: Mens 800m & 400m finals  :headbang:
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: Mikey on August 08, 2017, 09:39:12 am
Nice, they will be showing it on the bbc channels and online. Excited. Bolt not doing the 200m as he sees the risk of losing it is quite high. Should be exciting.

100m prospects: degrasse, gatlin (little to some chance), yohan blake recovering well, new american talent and usain bolt.

Then you have van neekirk and his blasting away the competitions in the 400m and breaking records. I don't see kirani james or the american guy keeping up with him.

I bet Bolt is kicking himself now after the 100m. Bolt is a phenomenal 100m sprinter but to me his 200m has always been where he is the standout as nobody can match his top speed and speed maintenance. However, most importantly getting a bad start is a lot less detrimental in the 200m in comparison to the 100 because you have the time to make up. Despite the loss Bolt is a legend.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: Mikey on August 08, 2017, 09:51:07 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk_EAQooa24

it's a fair question for sure.. maybe not to bolt/gatlin/coleman in that moment, but, definitely a fair question overall.. times were getting insane, everyone running under 9.8, with 9.7's and 9.6's, even 9.5's for bolt.. all of that "fire" seemed to disappear. Now, a 9.8 and even a low 9.9 is back to winning everything.

so many people over the years got busted, including Tyson Gay & Gatlin himself, as well as several of Bolt's teammates.

Bolt's response was a bit over the top..



I still hope he's clean.

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_100ok.htm

Also, Blake kinda just "shows up" in 2012.. :ninja:

Yeah I can understand the frustration though. Ever since the Ben Johnson saga the results have always been overshadowed with suspicion.

Blake got a suspension early in his career for using stimulants. He really came out of the shadows in 2011 when he won the World Champs after Bolt's infamous false start. Unfortunately for Blake he's just had a tumultuous time with injuries and as a sprinter to get to your peak you need to be injury free and sustain that. Michael Johnson apart from his speed and being up until recently the world's greatest 200/400m sprinter in history was very fortunate in that he was durable and didn't have many injuries along the way.

With regards to Gatlin of course I agree that it's a pity he has used PEDs in the past. However, you've got to admire his resilience to come back after 2 doping bans and still being a force in his mid 30's. A lot of other people would've received a 4 year ban and given it all away and nobody would blame them.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 08, 2017, 09:59:06 am
Nice, they will be showing it on the bbc channels and online. Excited. Bolt not doing the 200m as he sees the risk of losing it is quite high. Should be exciting.

100m prospects: degrasse, gatlin (little to some chance), yohan blake recovering well, new american talent and usain bolt.

Then you have van neekirk and his blasting away the competitions in the 400m and breaking records. I don't see kirani james or the american guy keeping up with him.

I bet Bolt is kicking himself now after the 100m. Bolt is a phenomenal 100m sprinter but to me his 200m has always been where he is the standout as nobody can match his top speed and speed maintenance. However, most importantly getting a bad start is a lot less detrimental in the 200m in comparison to the 100 because you have the time to make up. Despite the loss Bolt is a legend.

I personally don't care at all if he lost, doesn't tarnish him at all IMHO. I mean it sucks but, I respect him more that he tried, rather than walking off into the sunset - i'm weird like that it seems. I guess I just like to see people keep competing as long as they are able AND they want to compete - the idea of retiring early just to walk off with some story book ending has always bugged me, in every sport.

I wish he did the 200m. He'd probably walk away with a W in 200m and 3rd in 100m. Played it somewhat safe by only doing 100m and now he doesn't have a chance to end it in the event he probably had the better chance to win, especially with Degrasse out.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk_EAQooa24

it's a fair question for sure.. maybe not to bolt/gatlin/coleman in that moment, but, definitely a fair question overall.. times were getting insane, everyone running under 9.8, with 9.7's and 9.6's, even 9.5's for bolt.. all of that "fire" seemed to disappear. Now, a 9.8 and even a low 9.9 is back to winning everything.

so many people over the years got busted, including Tyson Gay & Gatlin himself, as well as several of Bolt's teammates.

Bolt's response was a bit over the top..



I still hope he's clean.

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_100ok.htm

Also, Blake kinda just "shows up" in 2012.. :ninja:

Yeah I can understand the frustration though. Ever since the Ben Johnson saga the results have always been overshadowed with suspicion.

Blake got a suspension early in his career for using stimulants. He really came out of the shadows in 2011 when he won the World Champs after Bolt's infamous false start. Unfortunately for Blake he's just had a tumultuous time with injuries and as a sprinter to get to your peak you need to be injury free and sustain that. Michael Johnson apart from his speed and being up until recently the world's greatest 200/400m sprinter in history was very fortunate in that he was durable and didn't have many injuries along the way.

With regards to Gatlin of course I agree that it's a pity he has used PEDs in the past. However, you've got to admire his resilience to come back after 2 doping bans and still being a force in his mid 30's. A lot of other people would've received a 4 year ban and given it all away and nobody would blame them.

yup. def!
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: Mikey on August 08, 2017, 09:59:51 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7onQ8r4Cb7o

Thompson missing out on a medal in the 100m was a huge upset. She's been the dominant 100m sprinter for the past year. Ivory Coast representing well.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: Mikey on August 08, 2017, 10:02:21 am
Nice, they will be showing it on the bbc channels and online. Excited. Bolt not doing the 200m as he sees the risk of losing it is quite high. Should be exciting.

100m prospects: degrasse, gatlin (little to some chance), yohan blake recovering well, new american talent and usain bolt.

Then you have van neekirk and his blasting away the competitions in the 400m and breaking records. I don't see kirani james or the american guy keeping up with him.

I bet Bolt is kicking himself now after the 100m. Bolt is a phenomenal 100m sprinter but to me his 200m has always been where he is the standout as nobody can match his top speed and speed maintenance. However, most importantly getting a bad start is a lot less detrimental in the 200m in comparison to the 100 because you have the time to make up. Despite the loss Bolt is a legend.

I personally don't care at all if he lost, doesn't tarnish him at all IMHO. I mean it sucks but, I respect him more that he tried, rather than walking off into the sunset - i'm weird like that it seems. I guess I just like to see people keep competing as long as they are able AND they want to compete - the idea of retiring early just to walk off with some story book ending has always bugged me, in every sport.

I wish he did the 200m. He'd probably walk away with a W in 200m and 3rd in 100m. Played it somewhat safe by only doing 100m and now he doesn't have a chance to end it in the event he probably had the better chance to win, especially with Degrasse out.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk_EAQooa24

it's a fair question for sure.. maybe not to bolt/gatlin/coleman in that moment, but, definitely a fair question overall.. times were getting insane, everyone running under 9.8, with 9.7's and 9.6's, even 9.5's for bolt.. all of that "fire" seemed to disappear. Now, a 9.8 and even a low 9.9 is back to winning everything.

so many people over the years got busted, including Tyson Gay & Gatlin himself, as well as several of Bolt's teammates.

Bolt's response was a bit over the top..



I still hope he's clean.

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_100ok.htm

Also, Blake kinda just "shows up" in 2012.. :ninja:

Yeah I can understand the frustration though. Ever since the Ben Johnson saga the results have always been overshadowed with suspicion.

Blake got a suspension early in his career for using stimulants. He really came out of the shadows in 2011 when he won the World Champs after Bolt's infamous false start. Unfortunately for Blake he's just had a tumultuous time with injuries and as a sprinter to get to your peak you need to be injury free and sustain that. Michael Johnson apart from his speed and being up until recently the world's greatest 200/400m sprinter in history was very fortunate in that he was durable and didn't have many injuries along the way.

With regards to Gatlin of course I agree that it's a pity he has used PEDs in the past. However, you've got to admire his resilience to come back after 2 doping bans and still being a force in his mid 30's. A lot of other people would've received a 4 year ban and given it all away and nobody would blame them.

yup. def!

Definitely! We can't all have fairly tale endings haha.

The 200m will be deadly!  :headbang:
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: AGC on August 08, 2017, 10:12:09 am
This is a good article on the Justin Gatlin story:

http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/demonising-justin-gatlin/ (http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/demonising-justin-gatlin/)

Takeaways: the first ban was explainable/excusable, should never have gotten a record based on the evidence. The second offense was bizarre and could plausibly have been sabotage, but impossible to prove unless the guy came forward. As the article says: he had several tests around the positive test all come back clean, why would he randomly use test in the middle of the season? Very odd pattern. Also, without the bogus first test he wouldn't have gotten four years.

Also, it's not completely unreasonable that he could have a second career peak based on the fact he took a four-year break from the sport. It's naive to think most top-level sprinters don't experiment around the edges heavily, but the response against Gatlin when compared to Blake, Powell, Gay etc. is over the top! Embarrassing to see him booed and it was pretty cool to see him literally silence the critics.

...I just wish he hadn't beaten Bolt  :huh:
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 08, 2017, 10:59:04 am
This is a good article on the Justin Gatlin story:

http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/demonising-justin-gatlin/ (http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/demonising-justin-gatlin/)

Takeaways: the first ban was explainable/excusable, should never have gotten a record based on the evidence. The second offense was bizarre and could plausibly have been sabotage, but impossible to prove unless the guy came forward. As the article says: he had several tests around the positive test all come back clean, why would he randomly use test in the middle of the season? Very odd pattern. Also, without the bogus first test he wouldn't have gotten four years.

Also, it's not completely unreasonable that he could have a second career peak based on the fact he took a four-year break from the sport. It's naive to think most top-level sprinters don't experiment around the edges heavily, but the response against Gatlin when compared to Blake, Powell, Gay etc. is over the top! Embarrassing to see him booed and it was pretty cool to see him literally silence the critics.

...I just wish he hadn't beaten Bolt  :huh:

Agree 100%. First test shouldn't have been put on his record but he still had to serve a doping ban. Yet the media keeping pushing down '2 Doping bans' Sebastian coe IAAF president of all people 'Goes against gatlins 2 doping bans' and the people at home rely on the media for giving accurate information.

People who served doping bans include shelly anne fraiser, yohan blake, asafa powel, yohan blake, dwain chambers yet they put all their hate on gatlin thanks to the media.

I am happy gatlin won cos of this and also because he was so close last time and he kept failing and trying for many years and finally gets it.

I would have preferred bolt come second.

Judging his 100m performance, I don't think he would do that well in the 200m, as in the 100m he was behind and started making up ground in the middle, but you will see that gatlin comes from behind bolt and coleman to take the win, he didn't have the ability to start catching up. Looking at the competition in the 200m such as wayde van nee kirk who broke 300m world record, he would have struggled there and bolt realizing this decided not to attempt it as he himself he wanted to go out winning therefore left out 200m.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 08, 2017, 03:24:06 pm
WTF is going on with the case on mkwala, he was taken out of 200m and now 400m.
And IAAF has not said anything about it. He was a serious threat to wvnk.

Hmm  ::) what's going on behind the scene.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 08, 2017, 11:50:39 pm
WVN is a beast.  :ibrunning:

That dude who came from last place in the last ~80m to finish 3rd was pretty incredible too, what a finish.

800m final & pole vault was pretty dope too.



Nice, they will be showing it on the bbc channels and online. Excited. Bolt not doing the 200m as he sees the risk of losing it is quite high. Should be exciting.

100m prospects: degrasse, gatlin (little to some chance), yohan blake recovering well, new american talent and usain bolt.

Then you have van neekirk and his blasting away the competitions in the 400m and breaking records. I don't see kirani james or the american guy keeping up with him.

I bet Bolt is kicking himself now after the 100m. Bolt is a phenomenal 100m sprinter but to me his 200m has always been where he is the standout as nobody can match his top speed and speed maintenance. However, most importantly getting a bad start is a lot less detrimental in the 200m in comparison to the 100 because you have the time to make up. Despite the loss Bolt is a legend.

I personally don't care at all if he lost, doesn't tarnish him at all IMHO. I mean it sucks but, I respect him more that he tried, rather than walking off into the sunset - i'm weird like that it seems. I guess I just like to see people keep competing as long as they are able AND they want to compete - the idea of retiring early just to walk off with some story book ending has always bugged me, in every sport.

I wish he did the 200m. He'd probably walk away with a W in 200m and 3rd in 100m. Played it somewhat safe by only doing 100m and now he doesn't have a chance to end it in the event he probably had the better chance to win, especially with Degrasse out.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk_EAQooa24

it's a fair question for sure.. maybe not to bolt/gatlin/coleman in that moment, but, definitely a fair question overall.. times were getting insane, everyone running under 9.8, with 9.7's and 9.6's, even 9.5's for bolt.. all of that "fire" seemed to disappear. Now, a 9.8 and even a low 9.9 is back to winning everything.

so many people over the years got busted, including Tyson Gay & Gatlin himself, as well as several of Bolt's teammates.

Bolt's response was a bit over the top..



I still hope he's clean.

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_100ok.htm

Also, Blake kinda just "shows up" in 2012.. :ninja:

Yeah I can understand the frustration though. Ever since the Ben Johnson saga the results have always been overshadowed with suspicion.

Blake got a suspension early in his career for using stimulants. He really came out of the shadows in 2011 when he won the World Champs after Bolt's infamous false start. Unfortunately for Blake he's just had a tumultuous time with injuries and as a sprinter to get to your peak you need to be injury free and sustain that. Michael Johnson apart from his speed and being up until recently the world's greatest 200/400m sprinter in history was very fortunate in that he was durable and didn't have many injuries along the way.

With regards to Gatlin of course I agree that it's a pity he has used PEDs in the past. However, you've got to admire his resilience to come back after 2 doping bans and still being a force in his mid 30's. A lot of other people would've received a 4 year ban and given it all away and nobody would blame them.

yup. def!

Definitely! We can't all have fairly tale endings haha.

The 200m will be deadly!  :headbang:

they keep comparing WVN to Bolt, which is annoying... but, 400/200 dominance by WVN could allow WVN to slip right into that gap that Bolt just left wide open.. If Bolt would have run 200m and beat WVN, that'd be a good closing touch on his career, now that WVN is taking off.

200m is going to be dope.. i'd love to see WVN pull out a win and become this 200/400 guy :D



This is a good article on the Justin Gatlin story:

http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/demonising-justin-gatlin/ (http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/demonising-justin-gatlin/)

Takeaways: the first ban was explainable/excusable, should never have gotten a record based on the evidence. The second offense was bizarre and could plausibly have been sabotage, but impossible to prove unless the guy came forward. As the article says: he had several tests around the positive test all come back clean, why would he randomly use test in the middle of the season? Very odd pattern. Also, without the bogus first test he wouldn't have gotten four years.

Also, it's not completely unreasonable that he could have a second career peak based on the fact he took a four-year break from the sport. It's naive to think most top-level sprinters don't experiment around the edges heavily, but the response against Gatlin when compared to Blake, Powell, Gay etc. is over the top! Embarrassing to see him booed and it was pretty cool to see him literally silence the critics.

...I just wish he hadn't beaten Bolt  :huh:

ooh nice. going to give that a read tmw.

on a side note: seems like people who are willing to cheat should get into business or politics :/  :ninja: there it's respected.

something about "paying dues" that doesn't work anymore ... ie serving a ban and no one cares. "Once a cheat, always a cheat." Yet, fairweather fans want to keep the WR's keep dropping or they get bored with the sport/performances.

booing someone when they win like that, is pretty dirty.. i mean, they don't know if they are doping or not - but still boo.. at least let them have a moment without booing, maybe just less cheers without the boos.. but pretty disrespectful to boo at that moment.

sorry bout to sleep, typing sucks.

pc
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 09, 2017, 06:30:08 am
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something about "paying dues" that doesn't work anymore ... ie serving a ban and no one cares. "Once a cheat, always a cheat." Yet, fairweather fans want to keep the WR's keep dropping or they get bored with the sport/performances.

Agree with the above, but it's not really black and white like that, if they admitted cheating and taking drugs, then yes once a cheat and therefore shouldn't be allowed to compete again but then most cases are that 'whether they are lying or not' but most of the cases are ambigious as in the player denies knowing that he had that substance inside his body, which could have been avoided through thorough checking of what they allow or don't allow, but from these cases it's not as simple as once a cheat always a cheat.

Also update regarding mkwala, watching on bbc, his doctor's came on they said nothing was wrong with him, he vomited after getting on bus, while the iaaf medical personel came on and said he vomitted twice and without doing test they assumed he had a virus and stopped him from competing based on recommendations of health england and yet even though a recommendation they enforced it as law and so many other ambiguity i.e. they say he vomitted twice one at 10pm, but his doctor says he was with mkwala doing check up of mkwala at that time, just alot of confusion of he contradictions of he did this or he did that. But this is bad management from the iaaf medical team and just ill prepared for this situation coming up.

I hope he does the relay.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: Mikey on August 09, 2017, 07:27:45 am
I heard a lot of athletes were sick. E.g. Elaine Thompson was vomiting for hours but she still competed. Jamaicans be like 'they poisoned our food'.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 09, 2017, 03:38:37 pm
I heard a lot of athletes were sick. E.g. Elaine Thompson was vomiting for hours but she still competed. Jamaicans be like 'they poisoned our food'.

lol, probably. Or they think the US sabotaged the Jamaican camps, but mcleod managed to e

I'm so happy they allowed mkwala to participate in the 200m lol a one man race.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 09, 2017, 09:56:29 pm
I heard a lot of athletes were sick. E.g. Elaine Thompson was vomiting for hours but she still competed. Jamaicans be like 'they poisoned our food'.

lol, probably. Or they think the US sabotaged the Jamaican camps, but mcleod managed to e

I'm so happy they allowed mkwala to participate in the 200m lol a one man race.

that was awesome haha.. plus he did pushups at the end, beastmode.

good for him.



Mo was struggling in that 5k qualifier ... dno, will be amazing if he ends up getting a W for 5000m.




whoa what just happened with Chelimo ?? wtf? Fan of Chelimo, but he almost got wrecked and he's jabbing with some dude.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 09, 2017, 09:57:08 pm
whoa Chelimo just fell too.. after that.. WTF.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 10, 2017, 12:41:34 am
damn I feel bad for Miller-Uibo...

(http://i.iplsc.com/phyllis-francis-w-srodku-z-prawej-allyson-felix-z-lewej-shau/0006QVFT9K2KR5FP-C122-F4.jpg)

she had that race, she was flying.. then gets injured like 10-15m from the finish? pretty crazy.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 10, 2017, 10:24:48 am
Ye, that 400m final was crazy, I don't know what happened to miller uibo, if she could have just pushed through it, but then again it could have made it worse, I think it was probably a cramp or her quad tightened up.

I saw the re-assignment of medals and didn't know that russian athletes was banned and it's not a single athlete but more of a state funded doping program, wow the whole country sponsered the doping of athletes.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 10, 2017, 12:05:47 pm
Ye, that 400m final was crazy, I don't know what happened to miller uibo, if she could have just pushed through it, but then again it could have made it worse, I think it was probably a cramp or her quad tightened up.

on twitter:

"Shaunae Miller-Uiboā€¸Verified account @Hey_ItsShaunae  3h3 hours ago

 I am injury free and will be contesting the 200m semis later tonight.



so wtf happened?! eheh.



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I saw the re-assignment of medals and didn't know that russian athletes was banned and it's not a single athlete but more of a state funded doping program, wow the whole country sponsered the doping of athletes.

ya yesterday my dad was like, "why aren't there any russians competing?"
me: "they are banned"
dad: "which ones??"
me: "all of them"
dad: "what"
me: "the entire country."
dad: "what????"

he lives under a rock tho.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 10, 2017, 11:44:45 pm
i'm not a huge centrowitz fan.. dno something about him usually bothers me, seems cocky in a weird way. he's had such a "bad season" after winning the gold in 2016 olympics.. wonder what happened to him, mentally, physically, etc.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 10, 2017, 11:45:41 pm
Miller-Uibo looked ridiculous in 200m.



About to watch the 200m final.. pulling for Makwala & WVN but, don't think WVN will even get top 3 .. unless he's in way better form than the semis.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 10, 2017, 11:51:38 pm
Guliyev beast mode. damn.

great 200m final.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: Mikey on August 11, 2017, 07:06:59 am
Guliyev beast mode. damn.

great 200m final.

I first heard of Guliyev when he became the 2nd white man to run sub 10 (9.97).
Upset of the Word Champs imo. Honestly who would've thought Guliyev would have won the 200 :o
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: Mikey on August 11, 2017, 07:09:46 am
Speaking upsets The Flying Frenchman takes out the 800m!!!

https://www.iaaf.org/news/report/world-champs-london-2017-niekerk-bosse-spotak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE-sQf7nX1E

Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 11, 2017, 10:22:38 am
Guliyev beast mode. damn.

great 200m final.

I first heard of Guliyev when he became the 2nd white man to run sub 10 (9.97).
Upset of the Word Champs imo. Honestly who would've thought Guliyev would have won the 200 :o

my dad did........ lmao!

first time he saw him.. he picked him. I think he just liked his shades tho.

he looked great in the heats/semis so i was def expecting him to do good, not necessarily win it though. you could see how emotional he was, first gold for turkey in that event.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 11, 2017, 12:00:48 pm
Ye guliyev was amazing. But wvn was disappointed and felt like he was being disrespected because of the mkwala situation. He thinks people are against him. Strange.

Can't wait for the 200m final womans.

Also uibo on bbc said that she looked up on the screen, misplaced her footing, dragging her toes and losing speed and falling behind. But her face showed agony, maybe agony of fatigue and tiredness.

Woman's high jump for brit's going well. But you can't count out the american's.

I think I missed the news where they announced that russia was banned or maybe I did see it but didn't think much of it. But crazy to think. Would it be crazy to think that there may be other countries who sponsor doping their athletes.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 11, 2017, 12:19:26 pm
Ye guliyev was amazing. But wvn was disappointed and felt like he was being disrespected because of the mkwala situation. He thinks people are against him. Strange.

hmm ?? where'd you hear that? Haven't seen anything about that.


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Can't wait for the 200m final womans.

me2. seems i'm a shaunae miller(-uibo) fan now. she's a beast.


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Also uibo on bbc said that she looked up on the screen, misplaced her footing, dragging her toes and losing speed and falling behind. But her face showed agony, maybe agony of fatigue and tiredness.

ya i don't get it.. looked more serious than that. But then she looked so good in the 200 semi that it kind of makes sense.. maybe she just slipped up and broke mentally? I mean, we've seen tons of athletes literally fall, get back up and keep running, maybe not in 400m but, if you're determined & healthy you'll keep pushing hard, especially from "misplacing your footing". There was no indication that she was trying her hardest in the last 10m, looked like she was hurt & completely gave up. Maybe she's just not that mentally strong when it comes to stuff like that? Would be a shame if that were the case..


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Woman's high jump for brit's going well. But you can't count out the american's.

I think I missed the news where they announced that russia was banned or maybe I did see it but didn't think much of it. But crazy to think. Would it be crazy to think that there may be other countries who sponsor doping their athletes.

Happens alot more than we think unfortunately. China/Bulgaria have done similar things for Oly Lifting/Gymnastics. Jamaica has been accused for sprinting. USA has tons of shady coaches.

Really sucks..

I'd love to see completely clean competition AND training. :ninja: :(
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 11, 2017, 02:38:12 pm
Ye guliyev was amazing. But wvn was disappointed and felt like he was being disrespected because of the mkwala situation. He thinks people are against him. Strange.

hmm ?? where'd you hear that? Haven't seen anything about that.


Let's see if I can find it. He was very upset because of all these things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw4Uev0h30E
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: Joe on August 11, 2017, 05:25:09 pm
Yeah I believe that Makwala accused the IAAF of kicking him from the 400m in order to help WVN win. What an outrageous assertion from Makwala.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 11, 2017, 06:15:01 pm
Ye guliyev was amazing. But wvn was disappointed and felt like he was being disrespected because of the mkwala situation. He thinks people are against him. Strange.

hmm ?? where'd you hear that? Haven't seen anything about that.


Let's see if I can find it. He was very upset because of all these things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw4Uev0h30E

wow wtf.

Yeah I believe that Makwala accused the IAAF of kicking him from the 400m in order to help WVN win. What an outrageous assertion from Makwala.

wtf?!


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Botswana medal hope Isaac Makwala has accused the IAAF of "sabotage" after he was excluded from Tuesday night's 400 metres final on medical grounds following a bout of norovirus.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/other-sports/furious-isaac-makwala-accuses-iaaf-of-sabotage-after-world-athletics-championships-2017-exclusion-a3607201.html

wtf.



http://www.espn.co.uk/olympics/trackandfield/story/_/id/20308017/wayde-van-niekerk-accuses-isaac-makwala-disrespect-conspiracy-comments

wtf.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 11, 2017, 06:31:01 pm
/\ Lol a list of wtf's. The way they removed mkwala from the 400m race was just strange and not enough information and just unfounded based on what mkwala is saying and the iaaf is saying, so I feel that mkwala should have been allowed to compete but given a recommendation rather than enforcing it on him.

I also feel because of the way it turned out and not enough information from iaaf, incorrect way of removing mkwala, people i.e. public gonna form their own opinion like michael johnson was mentioning, that if iaaf are not communicating properly people will start forming conspiracies and this catches on and people will start thinking that maybe they are favouring wvn and from that they think wayde won because mkawala was not in there and therefore that's why niekerk's feeling upset of not getting respect of his win has some grounds to it.

But it's not mkwala's fault cos he felt he was removed from the race incorrectly and he will get his opinion.

IAAF is at fault and this is the effects that comes out of it and therefore affecting niekerk.

note: for some reason my vocabulary bank is feeling empty finding it difficult to find the right word lol.

Awesome 200m finals woman, I always felt schippers had the edge and with talou so close and then the dip for the win. Great job.

USA won the steeplechase from the kenyan's good for them.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: Mikey on August 11, 2017, 08:25:04 pm
https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/other-sports/other-sports/pearson-blitzes-semi!637247?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=FoxSportsAus
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 11, 2017, 11:07:13 pm
Nice Mutumbo.. .AU son!



yea seifullaah73, USA #1 & #2 in 3000m steeple was nuts, crazy race. 200m final was really good. What a race for the top 2. Those girls are ridiculous.



Tons of stuff going on tomorrow .. can't wait for the M 5000m final tho ;d & the M/W 4x100m relays.

https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-world-championships/iaaf-world-championships-london-2017-5151/timetable/byday
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: adarqui on August 12, 2017, 10:38:01 pm
Bolt injury.................... damn :( really sucks.

Tried to find the clip of Omar Mcleod crying, post interview. Damn. Good dude. :/

any idea what kind of injury he suffered yet? looked like a hamstring tear... not a major/full one though.



men's 5k was nuts.. Mo gave everything he got but just got beat. The dude who won looked so fresh at the end.. Chelimo & Farah were dead. Great race.

:ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning:



Day 10 is going to be great.. Men's high jump, W 5000m, M 1500m, W 800m, M/W 4x400m.
Title: Re: IAAF 2017 World Championships
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 13, 2017, 08:02:49 am
Bolt injury.................... damn :( really sucks.

Tried to find the clip of Omar Mcleod crying, post interview. Damn. Good dude. :/

any idea what kind of injury he suffered yet? looked like a hamstring tear... not a major/full one though.



men's 5k was nuts.. Mo gave everything he got but just got beat. The dude who won looked so fresh at the end.. Chelimo & Farah were dead. Great race.

:ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning:



Day 10 is going to be great.. Men's high jump, W 5000m, M 1500m, W 800m, M/W 4x400m.

OMG great britain wins the 4x100m gold with nethaneel going head to head with coleman and wins, just amazing job. It was the best choice they made, talbot was good at the bends like he did with 200m, but gemili gave gb the lead and awesome.  :highfive:  :headbang:

Sucks for bolt's injury, you can see his face. Def hamstring injury, not major as he was able to walk out limping. But serious enough to stop him running.

ye the 5k was good, mo was just too tired to do much, chilemo at the beginning saying he is going to destroy mo lol and just fatigued early, but the winner, won thanks to team work of the ethiopians.

Great night of athletics.  :headbang: