Sport Specific Training Discussion > 400m Sprinting or Shorter
Sprinter Training
BMully:
--- Quote from: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on June 24, 2011, 04:46:43 pm ---Hopefully everything you see & hear about the world's 2 fastest men you will take with a BIG pinch of salt.
--- Quote ---Finding his max squat is something I have tried and failed before.
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Bolt has probably never got under a squat rack in his life.
The spine hates sustained compression but loves storing & releasing rotary torque. Not enough attention paid to the spinal engine from what I gather.
Benching 185 doesn't make you a sub 10 runner.
Will be interesting to see what times the top Brit's produce in the future.
--- Quote ---You'll find your body wants to rotate laterally with each arm movement unless you brace yourself mid-region.
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Did you see Bolt's lateral movement in Beijing & in Berlin that he got criticized for?.
Seems like he was taking advantage of the lateral spring system.
Can brute force compete with spring/elasticity (stride rate remains constant)?.
Nah.
Much stronger guys than Bolt even in first round races get demolished.
Carl Lewis didn't lift until the back end of his career, when he ran his slowest times -- Linford 700lb+ squat.
It was Carl who came out on top. Hence things need to put in perspective.
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yea I was just pointing out that I have seen tyson lift before..I know tyson works hard, and I would say he works harder than bolt..Tyson lifts, 3x8 routine i think...Bolt probably does some olympic lifts and such
here is Jared Connaughton..he runs a 10.0x and he is a top sprinter for Canada
He has shown his clips of lifting..go to his channel, shows some workouts he had done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7eSlecx58Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u31A6SVScz0
he is 5'8 and 180lbs..those are the two lifting vids on his channel, his channel give s great view to a sprinters life
adarqui:
very nice vids in this thread.. havn't seen any of these..
nice thread :headbang:
BMully:
--- Quote from: speedstik1028 on June 17, 2011, 08:31:56 am ---http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeDywIq8XBY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOC7O9JOY3Y
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hit the youtube button at the top..it is easier than going to youtube
yea, look at Usain's protruding belly..he has an arch in his back
I do not think he squats much..and those Hang cleans do not look that good, his elbows do not really go far enough out from what I know about the lift
Clearly he is a pure genetic freak who trains more with track than with weights
BMully:
--- Quote from: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on June 25, 2011, 08:46:54 pm ---I will give you good money Bolt is bluffing, but by all means knock yourselves out. Just like with the link below, I'm certain he's trying to throw people.
Give away?. POOR FORM.
The whole vid just looks wrong.
Most interesting, he's flex's his muscles (did the same in Ostrava). I see him more towards a tendon/elastic runner myself (just like we see in the animal kingdom), but there is no way I'm not going to get into that & how he 'may' go about developing it.
Again, another bluff?. Not sure. Yeah, he's got some muscle, (Manchester 2009, 150m race, super blazin' & skinny).
hmmmmm...
Original Link: http://magazine.stack.com/TheIssue/Article/6717/In_the_Weight_Room_With_Usain_Bolt.aspx
Machine squats?, leg extensions?....
lol.
Bolt wants to remain on top of the world (so follow the link).
Like I said, take EVERYTHING with a pinch of salt, everything you see & hear.
What has surprised me is, Tyson Gay now trains with Steve Mullings (Jamaica). You don't do that. David Weck gave Tyson some inside secrets on pushing human performance further (we see that with Tyson's times). It goes MUCH further than spiralling his arms too. Now Mullings will take that knowledge for himself & now we could see Mullings easily topple Tyson & America's biggest hope.
We'll see.
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who is Mullings? I have seen a race where he and tyson where told to be working together...but my point is that tyson clearly works harder than bolt..Bolt is a freak, He just sprints and messes around in the weight room..You can see it in alot of track athletes that are genetically gifted..they screw around in weight room but still fast
bolt probably does not lift much..compare him to jared in the videos i posted and you can clearly see that a normal sprinter actually works and lifts..bolt just runs
mattyg35:
Bolt is successful b/c of his anthropometrics and coordination, not b/c he cleans 60kg 10 times with shit form.
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