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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2011, 12:37:02 pm »
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building good form; your body needs to realise you want to shoot one handed and the best way of doing so is removing the hand and practise your followthrough, plain and simple.
After the athlete/body is comfortable shooting one handed, a guide hand should be added, after that bringing the ball up etcetera.

All the arguments for balance, footwork, timing do not apply because we are building correct form and are only looking at the followthrough (which should ultimately be one handed).

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Can you palm the ball? If you can, then okay, you can do a little one handed shooting. If not, it completely changes the way you gather the ball. Do you start your shot on your shoulder? If you do, you need to change that. The ball should come up your midline (imagine a straight up and down line on your nose), can't do that with one arm if you can't palm the ball consistently. Do you bring the ball up with one hand? Doubt that you do.

I guess I should clarify that I do not agree with the approach of bringing the ball up from the side to the shoulder and shooting from the shoulder. I teach kids to bring the ball up the midline (explained above) for multiple reasons. It aligns you with your shot to the basket more, it allows for a quicker release without a hitch in your shot, and you have to use your guide hand to control the ball as you bring it up. It's impossible to do without both hands and just not smart to do with one hand.

Shooting with one hand, even if you just start with the ball up is not good form shooting. The whole point of form shooting is to improve your shot; and that you use in the game. You can absolutely work only on your follow through with both hands up. In fact, I recommend it. If you shoot with your guide hand using your thumb, you won't work that kink out shooting with one hand. Because when you practice 1000 one handed shots, but then you go to your practice or game and shoot with two hands, you're naturally going to use that thumb again because you did not practice NOT using that thumb. Get that guide hand up there and focus on not moving it into your shot. It simulates your natural shot, and it just better than one handed shooting.

So I guess I should end this with if you shoot from the shoulder, then maybe one handed shooting can be beneficial on a very very basic level, but if you shoot up your midline or shotline, then it does you no good. I'm only speaking off of the experience I've had and what I've been teaching my players for the last 5 years and seeing amazing results from.
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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2011, 04:50:30 pm »
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i agree with the "don't shoot with one hand people", sure you can throw it in once in a while, but i'd rather keep reinforcing proper mechanics with the guide hand on the ball.. so the stationary form shooting drill with the guide hand on the ball, to reinforce that movement/follow through/alignment etc, to me, is alot more beneficial than one hand shooting, the specificity of the drill with the guide hand is much greater and you can, over time, just get everything to align perfectly every time if you keep focusing on it.

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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2011, 06:58:07 pm »
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Added Taylor Horton's dribbling for time drill in the original post (top of page 1), to monitor your dribbling progress.

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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2011, 07:24:41 pm »
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cool ill put a new vid up above the current one so there's a comparison.

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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2011, 07:48:31 pm »
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Where is the awesome name i coined for it? H.D.C. = Horton Dribbling Complex.

I thought that would be a sure thing for someone with the flair for fancy acronyms like you darqui!  :D
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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2011, 07:56:15 pm »
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Where is the awesome name i coined for it? H.D.C. = Horton Dribbling Complex.

I thought that would be a sure thing for someone with the flair for fancy acronyms like you darqui!  :D

i like it, didn't see that acronym hah..

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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2011, 11:57:09 am »
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Better Basketball's Better Shooting 2 video is friggin AWESOME for teaching kids how to shoot. I think it's perfect for teaching middle school kids. I started that thing in middle school and that's where my jumper started getting nasty.

The most amazing thing, however, is when you've done so many reps so consistently for weeks, and then you go to the three point line. You just think "shoot," and that's all your body does. You don't think about the form because you've done it sooo many times before, your shot is going to feel so unbelievably fluid it's crazy (it's like learning to walk.. when you're a baby, you go through the steps "ok right foot forward, lean forward, bring left foot forward now..." after a while you just think "walk" and you just walk without going through the whole process. You go from thinking HOW to do it, to WHAT to do). It's like a shooter's high. I've only had it maybe 5 times in my life and I was like a robot. And in my experience if you keep playing around with your form, it's going to take longer to get that high. Perfect your form, then don't change it for 1,000 shots in a row. The more and more you shoot the same exact way, the better the patter will be burned into your nervous system.
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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2011, 09:19:28 pm »
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Actually there's no one way to shoot a jump shot. If one hand shots makes you a better shooter, then go for it. Ray Allen said that if you pick apart every good jump shooters jumper, you'll fined out why it works. I remember the boys basketball team in high school shooting with one hand at practice. What works for one person, may not work for another. So go for it.

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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2011, 07:57:41 pm »
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Actually there's no one way to shoot a jump shot. If one hand shots makes you a better shooter, then go for it. Ray Allen said that if you pick apart every good jump shooters jumper, you'll fined out why it works. I remember the boys basketball team in high school shooting with one hand at practice. What works for one person, may not work for another. So go for it.

You're right in saying that there's not just one way to shoot a jump shot. But I do believe there is a correct way to teach a basic jumpshot to a beginner. Much like there is a basic way to learn to drive, run track, etc. Teaching someone the correct way though can only do so much; it all depends on how they use what they've been taught. Do they go back to their natural way of shooting because that's how they're "comfortable" doing it? Or do they stick to the new harder way that doesn't immediately yield the results of shooting 3s consistently? There are proven methods that result in higher percentages, quicker releases and smoother transitions from dribble-to-shot. The methods that develop these habits are the correct ways to shoot.

Different methods can produce similar results I suppose, which I also guess is your overall point; but there are methods better than others which I think was our point. It all comes down to what the person teaching you to shoot values in a shooter, and what you're willing to change/work at to become a better shooter. Also you have to buy-in to what your teacher is teaching and believe he actually knows his stuff.

Sorry if that sounds like a ragtag reply, but I had about a thousand thoughts running through my head at once. Dadgum A.D.D.. Haha.
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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2011, 05:30:52 pm »
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Actually there's no one way to shoot a jump shot. If one hand shots makes you a better shooter, then go for it. Ray Allen said that if you pick apart every good jump shooters jumper, you'll fined out why it works. I remember the boys basketball team in high school shooting with one hand at practice. What works for one person, may not work for another. So go for it.

You're right in saying that there's not just one way to shoot a jump shot. But I do believe there is a correct way to teach a basic jumpshot to a beginner. Much like there is a basic way to learn to drive, run track, etc. Teaching someone the correct way though can only do so much; it all depends on how they use what they've been taught. Do they go back to their natural way of shooting because that's how they're "comfortable" doing it? Or do they stick to the new harder way that doesn't immediately yield the results of shooting 3s consistently? There are proven methods that result in higher percentages, quicker releases and smoother transitions from dribble-to-shot. The methods that develop these habits are the correct ways to shoot.

Different methods can produce similar results I suppose, which I also guess is your overall point; but there are methods better than others which I think was our point. It all comes down to what the person teaching you to shoot values in a shooter, and what you're willing to change/work at to become a better shooter. Also you have to buy-in to what your teacher is teaching and believe he actually knows his stuff.

Sorry if that sounds like a ragtag reply, but I had about a thousand thoughts running through my head at once. Dadgum A.D.D.. Haha.

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Absolutely!  I don't think anyone can doubt the effectiveness of Reggie Miller's shot, regardless of the unorthodox form.  However, there's a reason why most great shooters have very similar technique and very few have a different technique.  

People get too hung up in "staying true to their style", but if it were all that great, you wouldn't need help in the first place.  It's like folks that want to run faster but don't think they have to get the form right.  You will improve up until a certain point, but sooner or later, you won't get any better.

Don't get me wrong, when I shoot, if I have to concentrate on form, and aiming, and my elbow, and my hand, I'm probably going to miss.  But because I've practiced for countless hours on a consistent form, I don't HAVE to focus on it, I just shoot.

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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2011, 06:39:58 pm »
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Here's two ballhandling drills I used to do.  Go for 3 sets of 30 s per drill.  Hands and arms will be pretty tired afterward.  Go for max speed.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9HZ4LUR3nA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9HZ4LUR3nA</a>

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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2011, 12:13:23 am »
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But because I've practiced for countless hours on a consistent form, I don't HAVE to focus on it, I just shoot.

Pretty much my somewhat tl;dr post in a sentence.  :(
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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2011, 01:30:21 am »
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... That ball drill seems completely useless to me. I would never cross that high.

I guess it's to get the feel of the ball, but for me, handles comes easy, so I usually don't fine-tune it that much. If I'm ever out of it (i.e. I haven't played in a few weeks) I go out on the court, do a couple lazy dribbles and I'm all set to cross some dudes up.

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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2011, 01:33:28 am »
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... That ball drill seems completely useless to me. I would never cross that high.

I guess it's to get the feel of the ball, but for me, handles comes easy, so I usually don't fine-tune it that much. If I'm ever out of it (i.e. I haven't played in a few weeks) I go out on the court, do a couple lazy dribbles and I'm all set to cross some dudes up.

that's nice
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Re: Basketball Drills
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2011, 11:15:50 am »
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... That ball drill seems completely useless to me. I would never cross that high.

I guess it's to get the feel of the ball, but for me, handles comes easy, so I usually don't fine-tune it that much. If I'm ever out of it (i.e. I haven't played in a few weeks) I go out on the court, do a couple lazy dribbles and I'm all set to cross some dudes up.

that's nice

hahaha...i thought the same thing...more or less...