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Title: A Mistake?
Post by: seifullaah73 on June 12, 2012, 08:03:55 am
Hi all

I Apologize for what i wrote on this post as it was disrespectful, especially towards adarq. So i especially apologise to adarq for disrespecting him.

It was a stupid way of trying to get adarq back.

I should have realized that if someone is not interested in training anymore.

there is nothing else that can be done.

i am sincerely sorry about this.

the calling out thread is only for calling out the cheats and the fake people who claim to help people or people who are just plain dirt bags and i should learn to what i meant to say and think.

i hope you guys and adarq can forgive me for writing this nonsense.
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: LBSS on June 12, 2012, 09:15:34 am
raptor already tried this.

long story short, adarq got bored/burned out with training and got way into coding. go read his journal.

EDIT: i don't mean to sound like a dick. i miss the way things used to be with him around more, too.
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: seifullaah73 on June 12, 2012, 01:37:04 pm
I remember raptor's post, but it understood wrong.

This was an attempt to try and get adarq back into training instead of only coding.

I read his journal and don't want to sound rude but the training log has now become place for his programming and testing.
He had a lot of helpful info on training.

That has caused low motivation in the forum, i see a thread saying forum is dying its really the moods are there is no hyping up.

I hope he gets back to being dedicated to training if not.

then i guess we will just have to go on with our training.

Well i guess the good thing is that we still have excellent knowledgeable people on this thread.
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: TheSituation on June 12, 2012, 01:55:04 pm
In other news, I bumped into the situation and ronnie at seaside yesterday. They looked swole but are both manlets. They were filming something which I guess is a new show with those two. Not sure if I got on camera or not.
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: entropy on June 12, 2012, 02:25:11 pm
In other news, I bumped into the situation and ronnie at seaside yesterday. They looked swole but are both manlets. They were filming something which I guess is a new show with those two. Not sure if I got on camera or not.

Ronnie Coleman? Did u suck his dick?
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: Raptor on June 12, 2012, 02:41:53 pm
Who's "The Situation"?
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: TheSituation on June 12, 2012, 02:58:43 pm
Who's "The Situation"?

(http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/07/06/pagesix/photos_stories/the_situation%20--300x300.jpg)


And No I didn't suck Ronnie's dick. And this is ronnie

(http://grind365.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ronnie-jersey-shore.jpg)
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: Raptor on June 12, 2012, 04:01:35 pm
What does he do? A masculine puppet or something?
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: TheSituation on June 12, 2012, 05:30:07 pm
What does he do? A masculine puppet or something?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Situation_(TV_personality)
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: LanceSTS on June 13, 2012, 02:05:51 am
Yes i am calling out the guy who is responsible for creating this site to help other in improving athletic performance as well as being dedicated in excelling in his area of sport.

Some people have said Sprinters are born not made, i am here to prove that wrong. I have been training for a few years to see i am not getting any until i learned the correct steps to take and how to proceed and will continue to work hard and train hard.

Where is the guy, who believed in cleaning up the sport.

Where is the guy who wants to clean up the strength and conditioning industry from the misappropriate ideologies they spread to the young minds so they can make a quick buck.

Where is the guy, who was dedicated in training and helping other people aim for their goals.

I am definitely not gifted in the genetics area as well as most of the members on this site and yet we are here to tell the world we can match the best athlete out there with or without a genetic advantage. We cannot give up.

I definitely love computers, which might make me a nerd, but i also like to be creative, active in playing sports. its the creativity which i use in my training and sports, which helps me try to excel.

I hope we can find this guy as motivations are low and people who are looking for help, may decide to go else where and straight into the jaws of the corrupt business men like linkenfagger and other people.

I Sure hope we do find this guy.

Here is one of his videos - If at first you don't succeed amp the F up and try again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBYlngDcxFY

here are some motivation vids

Just searched through youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzF468S1Cqc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee7hOAy8G8o

Im not so good with motivation vids.

I hope we can get this site the back the way it was, where adarq who was enthusiastic about training and was also dedicated in helping others excel in their sport and help them in correct training procedures.

i hope this doesn't get taken the wrong way if so i apologize.

Peace.

 :strong:

 :ibjumping:

 :ibsquatting:





  This is fucking retarded.  Youre pretty new here so let me help you with something, dont be one of those "SUPER FUCKING MOTIVATED EMOTIONAL IM GONNA TAKE THE WORLD OVER" posters.  Those guys never last, and they always end up sucking at life, e stat,  and making up tons of lying ass stories to keep some attention focused on them.
 
Calling out adarq, since hes not training?  Listen, if youre such a pussy your training depends on what someone else is doing to get you motivated, fucking quit now.   Maybe instead of making stupid call out posts you could thank him, youve gotten some good advice on here many times, a guy that runs a fucking 10.5 gave you a form critique the other day, .... ADARQS THE REASON YOU CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS HERE.

 Use your head a little man, if you want to make some impact on the forum, start working harder and SHOW everyone.  How much has your squat gone up? Sprint times down?  Make a video of that shit happening, thats how you get people to notice you, those super motivated omg posts lost their impact a long time ago.
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: acole14 on June 13, 2012, 03:08:19 am
i hope this doesn't get taken the wrong way if so i apologize.

:uhhhfacepalm: How did you expect it to be taken? You're putting adarq's name in the section devoted to calling out the liars, scumbags and cheats of the physical fitness industry. Not a smart move.

This issue is dead and buried anyway: while I think it'd be great if Adarq was still training because of his amazing achievements and expertise, he's moved on to other pursuits and that's completely up to him, not any one else. Get over it.
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: Raptor on June 13, 2012, 04:47:43 am
I agree. I also think programming and athletic pursuit don't exclude each other out but that's my opinion and what Andrew does or doesn't do is none of my business. So... hey, you have my support in programming man!

I think we should start to respect other people's endeavors more.
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: seifullaah73 on June 13, 2012, 11:11:45 am

  This is fucking retarded.  Youre pretty new here so let me help you with something, dont be one of those "SUPER FUCKING MOTIVATED EMOTIONAL IM GONNA TAKE THE WORLD OVER" posters.  Those guys never last, and they always end up sucking at life, e stat,  and making up tons of lying ass stories to keep some attention focused on them.


 :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:  :o
Im definitely not trying to be one of those people who say they are gonna take over the world. I know they are just full of air never put any effort and definitely do not want to seek attention. That's not my style.


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Calling out adarq, since hes not training?  Listen, if youre such a pussy your training depends on what someone else is doing to get you motivated, fucking quit now.   Maybe instead of making stupid call out posts you could thank him, youve gotten some good advice on here many times, a guy that runs a fucking 10.5 gave you a form critique the other day, .... ADARQS THE REASON YOU CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS HERE.

 :o I am not calling out adarq and challenging if him for being a liar like linkenfagger, i am not that type of person this is way out of proportion, man chill out, no need for foul language, everything you have written here is just blown straight out of proportion and is 100% wrong, not what i was intending. I am very appreciative of what adarq has done for me how much he has helped, i cannot thank him enough. 

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Use your head a little man, if you want to make some impact on the forum, start working harder and SHOW everyone.  How much has your squat gone up? Sprint times down?  Make a video of that shit happening, thats how you get people to notice you, those super motivated omg posts lost their impact a long time ago.

I don't feel the need to make some impact on the forum, just want to help and get help, just would like it the way it was. I also don't need people to notice me. i am not that type of person who thrives off attention i am satisfied with keeping to myself.

Woh, woh woh woh, easy slow down. you are taking this the wrong way. That's not what i meant, yes i agree i am new here, so i don't know the ropes of how to go about things, but i did not call him out in the way you think i am. I thought this was the only way i could get his attention and make him reconsider. I'm not the one to use foul language nor have i ever disrespected anyone in any way and if i had i always apologized.

I also apologized if this gets taken the wrong way.

This was just to try and bring andrew darqui back into training, why would i disrespect him for coding i have supported him for that

I respect everyone who has helped me such as you, you have helped a lot also.

How did what i write get interpreted to what you wrote, you know me, would i do something like that.
no, i respect everyone on this site.
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: seifullaah73 on June 13, 2012, 11:17:22 am
i hope this doesn't get taken the wrong way if so i apologize.

:uhhhfacepalm: How did you expect it to be taken? You're putting adarq's name in the section devoted to calling out the liars, scumbags and cheats of the physical fitness industry. Not a smart move.

This issue is dead and buried anyway: while I think it'd be great if Adarq was still training because of his amazing achievements and expertise, he's moved on to other pursuits and that's completely up to him, not any one else. Get over it.


I am sorry this got blown out of proportion, i guess the calling out button is more dangerous then i thought, i was just trying to get his attention, i maybe should have posted it somewhere else.

I am very sorry and apologize sincerely to adarq if it may have upset him in any way.
 :-[

I underestimated the power of calling out.
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: seifullaah73 on June 13, 2012, 11:18:58 am
I agree. I also think programming and athletic pursuit don't exclude each other out but that's my opinion and what Andrew does or doesn't do is none of my business. So... hey, you have my support in programming man!

I think we should start to respect other people's endeavors more.

I have always supported him in what he is passionate about, i guess it was just a poor attempt to try and persuade adarq to come back.

Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: Raptor on June 13, 2012, 11:36:37 am
I know, but ultimately it's his decision and that's that. He should feel good though that people still care about him and his former athletic feats, it means they were important.
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: Mutumbo000 on June 13, 2012, 12:20:38 pm
Let Adarq handle his business. If he don't want to jump or follow other athletic pursuits he don't have to. People should just be glad that Adarq is still keeping this site up and running!
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: D4 on June 13, 2012, 01:43:57 pm

  This is fucking retarded.  Youre pretty new here so let me help you with something, dont be one of those "SUPER FUCKING MOTIVATED EMOTIONAL IM GONNA TAKE THE WORLD OVER" posters.  Those guys never last, and they always end up sucking at life, e stat,  and making up tons of lying ass stories to keep some attention focused on them.


 :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:  :o
Im definitely not trying to be one of those people who say they are gonna take over the world. I know they are just full of air never put any effort and definitely do not want to seek attention. That's not my style.


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Calling out adarq, since hes not training?  Listen, if youre such a pussy your training depends on what someone else is doing to get you motivated, fucking quit now.   Maybe instead of making stupid call out posts you could thank him, youve gotten some good advice on here many times, a guy that runs a fucking 10.5 gave you a form critique the other day, .... ADARQS THE REASON YOU CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS HERE.

 :o I am not calling out adarq and challenging if him for being a liar like linkenfagger, i am not that type of person this is way out of proportion, man chill out, no need for foul language, everything you have written here is just blown straight out of proportion and is 100% wrong, not what i was intending. I am very appreciative of what adarq has done for me how much he has helped, i cannot thank him enough. 

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Use your head a little man, if you want to make some impact on the forum, start working harder and SHOW everyone.  How much has your squat gone up? Sprint times down?  Make a video of that shit happening, thats how you get people to notice you, those super motivated omg posts lost their impact a long time ago.

I don't feel the need to make some impact on the forum, just want to help and get help, just would like it the way it was. I also don't need people to notice me. i am not that type of person who thrives off attention i am satisfied with keeping to myself.

Woh, woh woh woh, easy slow down. you are taking this the wrong way. That's not what i meant, yes i agree i am new here, so i don't know the ropes of how to go about things, but i did not call him out in the way you think i am. I thought this was the only way i could get his attention and make him reconsider. I'm not the one to use foul language nor have i ever disrespected anyone in any way and if i had i always apologized.

I also apologized if this gets taken the wrong way.

This was just to try and bring andrew darqui back into training, why would i disrespect him for coding i have supported him for that

I respect everyone who has helped me such as you, you have helped a lot also.

How did what i write get interpreted to what you wrote, you know me, would i do something like that.
no, i respect everyone on this site.



Either one of two things:

1) You're too stupid to realize how to express what your feelings are, and instead, you totally made it sound the way "you don't want ppl to take it the wrong way"... If you're gonna say something, say it right so people don't get the wrong idea.  What you wrote, and what you say you "intended" are completely different so stop saying stuff like "that's not what I meant", or "don't take it the wrong way".  Instead learn how to freakin say what you really want to say.

2) You're just feeling stupid for having no one back you up and you're taking back what you said like a coward.

Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: seifullaah73 on June 13, 2012, 02:15:16 pm

  This is fucking retarded.  Youre pretty new here so let me help you with something, dont be one of those "SUPER FUCKING MOTIVATED EMOTIONAL IM GONNA TAKE THE WORLD OVER" posters.  Those guys never last, and they always end up sucking at life, e stat,  and making up tons of lying ass stories to keep some attention focused on them.


 :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:  :o
Im definitely not trying to be one of those people who say they are gonna take over the world. I know they are just full of air never put any effort and definitely do not want to seek attention. That's not my style.


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Calling out adarq, since hes not training?  Listen, if youre such a pussy your training depends on what someone else is doing to get you motivated, fucking quit now.   Maybe instead of making stupid call out posts you could thank him, youve gotten some good advice on here many times, a guy that runs a fucking 10.5 gave you a form critique the other day, .... ADARQS THE REASON YOU CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS HERE.

 :o I am not calling out adarq and challenging if him for being a liar like linkenfagger, i am not that type of person this is way out of proportion, man chill out, no need for foul language, everything you have written here is just blown straight out of proportion and is 100% wrong, not what i was intending. I am very appreciative of what adarq has done for me how much he has helped, i cannot thank him enough.  

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Use your head a little man, if you want to make some impact on the forum, start working harder and SHOW everyone.  How much has your squat gone up? Sprint times down?  Make a video of that shit happening, thats how you get people to notice you, those super motivated omg posts lost their impact a long time ago.

I don't feel the need to make some impact on the forum, just want to help and get help, just would like it the way it was. I also don't need people to notice me. i am not that type of person who thrives off attention i am satisfied with keeping to myself.

Woh, woh woh woh, easy slow down. you are taking this the wrong way. That's not what i meant, yes i agree i am new here, so i don't know the ropes of how to go about things, but i did not call him out in the way you think i am. I thought this was the only way i could get his attention and make him reconsider. I'm not the one to use foul language nor have i ever disrespected anyone in any way and if i had i always apologized.

I also apologized if this gets taken the wrong way.

This was just to try and bring andrew darqui back into training, why would i disrespect him for coding i have supported him for that

I respect everyone who has helped me such as you, you have helped a lot also.

How did what i write get interpreted to what you wrote, you know me, would i do something like that.
no, i respect everyone on this site.



Either one of two things:

1) You're too stupid to realize how to express what your feelings are, and instead, you totally made it sound the way "you don't want ppl to take it the wrong way"... If you're gonna say something, say it right so people don't get the wrong idea.  What you wrote, and what you say you "intended" are completely different so stop saying stuff like "that's not what I meant", or "don't take it the wrong way".  Instead learn how to freakin say what you really want to say.

2) You're just feeling stupid for having no one back you up and you're taking back what you said like a coward.



As shameful as it is i am guilty of the first one. Im am unable to express my feelings the way i want, as they never come out right. i am definitely not number 2, i never have any ill feeling towards any one. This is why i don't post a lot of the time as i feel it might come out wrong.

I guess this i just let it post not thinking.

my mistake

Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: seifullaah73 on June 13, 2012, 02:19:29 pm
I know, but ultimately it's his decision and that's that. He should feel good though that people still care about him and his former athletic feats, it means they were important.

Exactly, there are people, me included, that care about him and his former athletic feats.
I guess i just got carried away i didn't think what i was writing.
Title: Re: Andrew Darqui (Founder of Adarq.org) Where is this guy?
Post by: seifullaah73 on June 13, 2012, 02:52:54 pm
Let Adarq handle his business. If he don't want to jump or follow other athletic pursuits he don't have to. People should just be glad that Adarq is still keeping this site up and running!

Thats true.
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: Raptor on June 13, 2012, 03:27:50 pm
I know, but ultimately it's his decision and that's that. He should feel good though that people still care about him and his former athletic feats, it means they were important.

Exactly, there are people, me included, that care about him and his former athletic feats.
I guess i just got carried away i didn't think what i was writing.


Use the edit button and pretend you never wrote that. Then sue Andrew for immoral members on his forum.

On a second thought... nevermind :D
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: LanceSTS on June 13, 2012, 11:14:09 pm


  Its all good seifullahh73, I mistook your reasoning for something it wasnt and you didnt mean the thread in a spiteful way.  I know youre a good dude and thats why I dont want to see you going down that over the top IM SUPER MOTIVATED AND GONNA TELL EVERYONE WHAS UP  posting road, its a dead end fail street.  Keep training hard and doin your thing.
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: LBSS on June 14, 2012, 07:19:56 am
man, D4 is a fucking asshole.
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: seifullaah73 on June 14, 2012, 08:01:31 am


  Its all good seifullahh73, I mistook your reasoning for something it wasnt and you didnt mean the thread in a spiteful way.  I know youre a good dude and thats why I dont want to see you going down that over the top IM SUPER MOTIVATED AND GONNA TELL EVERYONE WHAS UP  posting road, its a dead end fail street.  Keep training hard and doin your thing.

Thank you so much, you don't know how much burden has been lifted off my shoulder when you posted that.
thanks and i am grateful u guys have forgiven me and it was a stupid way trying to persuade adarqui to come back.

Yes i agree, those super motivated guys are just all talk,

thanks so much again.
i will definitely work hard and i will think before i do anything stupid like this again.

Thanks

 
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: Raptor on June 14, 2012, 09:01:47 am
If Andrew comes back to athletic training, I'll send him a naked picture of myself.

Oh shit... no wonder he's retired...
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: TheSituation on June 15, 2012, 12:55:03 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Am1oB.gif)
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: D4 on June 15, 2012, 05:17:13 am
man, D4 is a fucking asshole.

why??
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: adarqui on June 18, 2012, 09:55:29 am
sup.. hah

seifullaah, don't worry, i'm not offended or at all mad with your post.. it is completely understandable to me, that people would be "frustrated" or "confused" regarding how, out of nowhere, I disappeared from training myself & others.

I understand that will cause people to leave the site or become "fed up" with me.. for those who have stayed, i hope they are still enjoying the site & finding it useful.. unfortunately, i just can't offer the advice i once did because, for some reason, athletics somehow disappeared from my soul.. it's gone.. i understand why it's gone (my focus on trying to achieve some new goals, i no longer need anger management), but i do not understand how that passion/drive completely evaporated, basically overnight.. regardless, it did.

i appreciate the "motivational speech", but it did not get a single neuron related to athletics/training, to fire. that should speak for itself..

also i'd like to mention a few of raptor's post in this thread seem way different when he "went at me" a few threads ago.. perhaps our little argument resulted in him being a little more accepting/respectful of my "change".. i honestly felt bad going at him.. i really do not want to feud with people, irl, on this forum, or over any other medium.. at this point, i'd rather just relax, chill, learn & advance.

i have an enormous amount of work to do, to get myself where i want to be mentally. so that's what i'm focused on now.

finally, i am ALWAYS on the adarq.org live chat.. only a handful of people from this site have used it, which i am a little surprised about.. but my point of mentioning this is: even though i may not be active on the forum portion site like i once was, i am always available on the live chat portion of the site, which means i am active on adarq.org 24/7 :D if anyone wants to chat & chill.

pC
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: Raptor on June 18, 2012, 11:04:11 am
Yeah man I was wrong then... at least it didn't took long to realize it though so you gotta give that up to me.

I think we should continue to support each other as people that have or had a common ground in our passions of present or future.

If you enjoy programming and have found that as a new challenge, we should support you. You or anybody else. It's stupid to attack a guy, especially with your proven integrity, over matters such as this one.

So yeah man, go for it, enjoy life. What matters is what you like not what other people want of you.
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: seifullaah73 on June 18, 2012, 05:50:47 pm
sup.. hah

seifullaah, don't worry, i'm not offended or at all mad with your post.. it is completely understandable to me, that people would be "frustrated" or "confused" regarding how, out of nowhere, I disappeared from training myself & others.

I understand that will cause people to leave the site or become "fed up" with me.. for those who have stayed, i hope they are still enjoying the site & finding it useful.. unfortunately, i just can't offer the advice i once did because, for some reason, athletics somehow disappeared from my soul.. it's gone.. i understand why it's gone (my focus on trying to achieve some new goals, i no longer need anger management), but i do not understand how that passion/drive completely evaporated, basically overnight.. regardless, it did.

i appreciate the "motivational speech", but it did not get a single neuron related to athletics/training, to fire. that should speak for itself..

also i'd like to mention a few of raptor's post in this thread seem way different when he "went at me" a few threads ago.. perhaps our little argument resulted in him being a little more accepting/respectful of my "change".. i honestly felt bad going at him.. i really do not want to feud with people, irl, on this forum, or over any other medium.. at this point, i'd rather just relax, chill, learn & advance.

i have an enormous amount of work to do, to get myself where i want to be mentally. so that's what i'm focused on now.

finally, i am ALWAYS on the adarq.org live chat.. only a handful of people from this site have used it, which i am a little surprised about.. but my point of mentioning this is: even though i may not be active on the forum portion site like i once was, i am always available on the live chat portion of the site, which means i am active on adarq.org 24/7 :D if anyone wants to chat & chill.

pC


Thanks for replying, i really appreciate you understanding. Yes i was confused how you turned from so motivated to training to not being interested in training.

I'm still enjoying this place, like a hang out spot. Trying to help if i can. That is quite strange how it disappeared. not even a single neuron, you must be way done with training.  ;D

I'm happy that you are happy and good luck with your future endeavors. (almost spelt it right included the u in the end)

Your achievements will be a motivation to other people to train hard.

BTW: where is this live chat also guess it might the time zone difference that few people are on at different times.

Thanks for understanding and good luck.
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: vag on June 19, 2012, 04:01:46 am
^Not strange how it dissapeared. It happened to me too. For me it came back the same way it left, overnight, but ~7 years later.
There are no rules. We do what we feel like doing. Free will.
Title: Re: A Mistake?
Post by: Raptor on June 19, 2012, 08:12:40 am
^Not strange how it dissapeared. It happened to me too. For me it came back the same way it left, overnight, but ~7 years later.
There are no rules. We do what we feel like doing. Free will.

If it were that easy with porn!

Oh well...