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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #195 on: May 20, 2011, 08:46:37 pm »
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so...is the jump manual recommended now after jacob is proved to have nice vert? or is it still a bad program?
why dont you come to a coaching section and find out? (sarcasm intended).
well what coaching section are you talking about? this is a thread about jacob hiller and his program so i definitely would be asking it here since there are no other answers as far as i can find. so if this coaching section has up-to-date information about jump manual then please let me know.


Sorry man, I meant "coaching session". I was just imitating jacob always telling people to "come to a coaching session". I'm pretty sure he charges you for said "coaching session". I think its freakin stupid how online trainers charge money for a half hour - 1 hour conversation over the internet. fuckin rip. id rather have phone sex with your wilting grandmother's disturbing voice.

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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #196 on: May 23, 2011, 02:18:53 am »
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Sorry man, I meant "coaching session". I was just imitating jacob always telling people to "come to a coaching session". I'm pretty sure he charges you for said "coaching session". I think its freakin stupid how online trainers charge money for a half hour - 1 hour conversation over the internet. fuckin rip. id rather have phone sex with your wilting grandmother's disturbing voice.

Hi Steven

I think you are being a bit harsh on Jacob and other online coaches who charge for their time here. If you are offering a service there is no reason why you shouldn't get paid for your time. If I call my lawyer and chat to him for 30 minutes I sure as hell get a bill in the mail. Online coaching is in most cases reasonably priced (Lowery excepted). if you have access to a good coach who is taking the time to help you and isn't charging you a fortune then a small fee is a reasonable thing to do.

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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #197 on: May 23, 2011, 12:10:20 pm »
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Sorry man, I meant "coaching session". I was just imitating jacob always telling people to "come to a coaching session". I'm pretty sure he charges you for said "coaching session". I think its freakin stupid how online trainers charge money for a half hour - 1 hour conversation over the internet. fuckin rip. id rather have phone sex with your wilting grandmother's disturbing voice.

Hi Steven

I think you are being a bit harsh on Jacob and other online coaches who charge for their time here. If you are offering a service there is no reason why you shouldn't get paid for your time. If I call my lawyer and chat to him for 30 minutes I sure as hell get a bill in the mail. Online coaching is in most cases reasonably priced (Lowery excepted). if you have access to a good coach who is taking the time to help you and isn't charging you a fortune then a small fee is a reasonable thing to do.

Jack

Well Jack, being a online coach yourself, its no surprise you take this stance. but for example, baggett charges 50 bucks for a 30 minute conversation. that is a bit much lol. I just brought up the "coaching session" thing because it seemed like hiller was pushing that service even though imo, its not the best way to spend your money.

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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #198 on: May 23, 2011, 09:20:57 pm »
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Hi Steven

As a quick note, I personally don't currently do online consultations or charge for extra coaching, but I understand where Jacob is coming from.

Time is money and I think it is unfair to expect him to take hours out of his busy schedule of holidaying around the world  ;D without compensation. If the people paying their $10 a month are asking plenty of questions and getting the guidance to help them achieve their goals this is perfectly reasonable. If they are just paying the $10 and never asking a single question or attending a call in, well, they are obviously just wasting their money.


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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #199 on: May 23, 2011, 10:14:39 pm »
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Steven... my current billing is $10 / month.. unlimited coaching sessions, which are scheduled at our coaching center, or receive replies within 12 hours for "basic" or tech support questions.

We do everything from analyzing form (jumping and exercise), to program assessment, to Q and A, etc...

People are quite happy with the coaching as it let's everyone get all their questions answered.

I also try and reply to free questions and make videos for people for free but as time is limited I give priority to my customers.

Free stuff is also great...

But I sometimes am a bit sketchy to join free stuff as sometimes the owners / operators aren't in a good position to offer amazing support... so when I'm serious about a software or service I usually look for the bet value and service first, then take a look at the price tag... and make my decisions.

Anyways I totally see your point...

We also give free coaching for the first 30 days to make sure people get started off on the right step and do plenty of program customization in that first 30 days.

If you want to ask me a "free" question we have a section on our blog devoted to it and I basically go down the list and either do video or blog post... for questions asked.

Raptor - Please PM me so we can organize  your "upgraded" / "premium" review.. ;) j/k

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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #200 on: May 23, 2011, 11:24:39 pm »
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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #201 on: May 26, 2011, 12:54:57 pm »
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I just noticed a bunch of comments on many popular dunks vids, especially TFB related, where the comment says: "type short guy dunks in the youtube search box to see a 5'5'' guy dunkng on 10ft.."

and that was posted only a week ago and if you do that it takes you to some bs about the jump manual
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkfh15rEWGI&feature=related

edit (i just changed my display name, used to be tkxii)
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #202 on: August 23, 2011, 09:15:14 am »
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guys check out these two links:
http://jumpmanual.com/affiliates.html
http://www.jumpmanual.com/affthankyou.html

so jacob has been saying that he didn't like/want those affiliates himself. now guess he really meant affiliates are  :welcome:
 :uhhhfacepalm:

Jacob also said he didn't make those ridiculous claims and have people promoting his stuff everywhere, and he is right. he didn't do those himself, but as you guys can see in the second link, he TAUGHT the affiliates what to do and how to spam. Step by Step.\

obviously Jacob isn't those retards like Maroko sending emails spam the hell out of little kids. But clearly Jacob had his own way of making money. Having those 'instructional' basketball sites posting these promoting links to 'jump manual, increase your vert by 10 inches!!', and making fake reviews on their 'no.1 jump program'. that's smart isn't it? and he doesn't get blamed for this because 'his affiliates did those'. Wonder who taught them what to post and what to say. :uhhhfacepalm:

remember once lance said 'if you stop paying them(the affiliates), they would stop promoting' and Jacob said it's a lot harder than you think. turns out the hard part is actually stop paying them and stop tricking little kids' money.

honestly this shows me enough of what he is full of. maybe there is a story behind this too, :huh: well, tell me about it.  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

i was so close to buying it, but all those positive feedbacks and the fact that EVERY SINGLE SITE was recommending Jump Manual made me skeptical. glad I made a smart decision, not spending $67 on some simple 14 day cycle of workouts.(know this cause one of my friend bought it)

maybe you have seen this and thought it didn't matter. but to me it does. there are 15-year-olds like me who just wanna dunk, and guess what they see the first thing when they type in 'vertical jump' in google?
JUMP MANUAL!!! INCREASE YOUR VERT BY 10 INCHES!!! MONEY BACK GUARANTEED!!!!!

and guess what happens? jacob gets another sale and the affiliates get another 80% or something like that.

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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #203 on: September 07, 2011, 09:44:47 am »
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Not sure if reposted , just found that SquatDr also did the Jump Manual:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8zmubRWCog" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8zmubRWCog</a>

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http://tinyurl.com/y9oyqtq use The Jump Manual : Vertical Jump Training System -$45com+$7/mo. Vertical Jump Program. High Conversion. Comprehensive How To Jump Higher Guide. Vertical Leap Training And Speed Manual For Athletes. Ebook, Videos, Forum,

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A scam inside a scam!!!

We need to go deeper...
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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #204 on: September 07, 2011, 10:40:54 am »
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I swear everytime I read threads like this I become more aware of how much gullible people are and more anxious of actually scamming them myself. Why not?

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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #205 on: January 27, 2012, 11:29:59 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj79tVjvYAs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj79tVjvYAs</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtMvxa2difY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtMvxa2difY</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neNzJcG-4T8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neNzJcG-4T8</a>
"Performance during stretch-shortening cycle exercise is influenced by the visco-elastic properties of the muscle-tendon units. During stretching of an activated muscle, mechanical energy is absorbed in the tendon structures (tendon and aponeurosis) and this energy can subsequently be re-utilized if shortening of the muscle immediately follows the stretching. According to Biscotti (2000), 72% of the elastic energy restitution action comes from tendons, 28% - from contractile elements of muscles.

http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Portals/0/Presentations/Shock%20Method%20Plyometrics.pdf

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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #206 on: June 26, 2012, 08:27:19 am »
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I recieved this comment in one of my youtube videos:

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Hey! thank you for this helpful video. By the way, I hear many people keep on talking about jumping training course called Nobolaron Manual (just google it), but I'm? not sure if it is good. Have you tried Nobolaron Manual? I've heard some incredible things about it and my buddy finally increase his jumping ability by using it, but he refuses to tell me :(

Beatrice Crawford 6 hours ago

I checked it because i found the "Nobolaron" hilarious.

The official page is this: http://nobolaronmanual.com/

In there there is a sort text describing how awesome nobolaron is and there are 3 links to the "nobolaron main page", guess where it redirects... http://jumpmanual.com/

Hurrrr, durrrr, herp, derp!!!

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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #207 on: June 26, 2012, 09:50:43 am »
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Sounds like a roid.

I'm in!

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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #208 on: June 26, 2012, 06:04:18 pm »
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In the video in the OP, he has fuck all knee flexion when he jumps. Why?
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Re: jacob hiller jump manual aka the derp manual
« Reply #209 on: June 26, 2012, 06:41:32 pm »
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