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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2011, 05:27:47 pm »
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Has anyone tried the Anaconda stack? I guess if none of us have, we should gladly STFU haha. I remember reading logs of guys using it and their strength was definitely sky rocketing the way Thib and that claimed it would.

As far as I've seen, many of T-Nation's products are backed by science. Curcumin, rhodiola rosea, fish oil etc. are well researched substances, providing benefits to the body.

My only beef is -like all of you said- the very aggressive, opposite-of-subtle plugging and marketing of their products in recent articles. You definitely get the feeling that some articles are edited, with plugs being inserted, not necessarily written by the original author.
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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2011, 05:43:46 pm »
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Has anyone tried the Anaconda stack? I guess if none of us have, we should gladly STFU haha. I remember reading logs of guys using it and their strength was definitely sky rocketing the way Thib and that claimed it would.

As far as I've seen, many of T-Nation's products are backed by science. Curcumin, rhodiola rosea, fish oil etc. are well researched substances, providing benefits to the body.

My only beef is -like all of you said- the very aggressive, opposite-of-subtle plugging and marketing of their products in recent articles. You definitely get the feeling that some articles are edited, with plugs being inserted, not necessarily written by the original author.

well, they've made claims of 20+ lb lean mass in like 8 weeks or so using the anaconda stack, that isn't happening in trained athletes OR noobs.. so we don't have to actually try the stack to know they are bullshitting.

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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2011, 05:51:23 pm »
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Has anyone tried the Anaconda stack? I guess if none of us have, we should gladly STFU haha. I remember reading logs of guys using it and their strength was definitely sky rocketing the way Thib and that claimed it would.

As far as I've seen, many of T-Nation's products are backed by science. Curcumin, rhodiola rosea, fish oil etc. are well researched substances, providing benefits to the body.

My only beef is -like all of you said- the very aggressive, opposite-of-subtle plugging and marketing of their products in recent articles. You definitely get the feeling that some articles are edited, with plugs being inserted, not necessarily written by the original author.

well, they've made claims of 20+ lb lean mass in like 8 weeks or so using the anaconda stack, that isn't happening in trained athletes OR noobs.. so we don't have to actually try the stack to know they are bullshitting.

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WORD. The claims they're making aren't possible even if you've juiced so much the shit is spurting out of every last pore in your body. Besides the fact the products are basically a fancy casein shake and creatine supplement. The rest of the so-called "active ingredients" don't do shit. Some of them can't even be absorbed by your body. People are paying for expensive shit and piss essentially.
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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2011, 05:56:41 pm »
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Has anyone tried the Anaconda stack? I guess if none of us have, we should gladly STFU haha. I remember reading logs of guys using it and their strength was definitely sky rocketing the way Thib and that claimed it would.

As far as I've seen, many of T-Nation's products are backed by science. Curcumin, rhodiola rosea, fish oil etc. are well researched substances, providing benefits to the body.

My only beef is -like all of you said- the very aggressive, opposite-of-subtle plugging and marketing of their products in recent articles. You definitely get the feeling that some articles are edited, with plugs being inserted, not necessarily written by the original author.

well, they've made claims of 20+ lb lean mass in like 8 weeks or so using the anaconda stack, that isn't happening in trained athletes OR noobs.. so we don't have to actually try the stack to know they are bullshitting.

pC

WORD. The claims they're making aren't possible even if you've juiced so much the shit is spurting out of every last pore in your body. Besides the fact the products are basically a fancy casein shake and creatine supplement. The rest of the so-called "active ingredients" don't do shit. Some of them can't even be absorbed by your body. People are paying for expensive shit and piss essentially.

yup, the supplement industry is a fraud, and honestly, dno why anyone would put those products in their bodies.. i mean wtf, stick to pure whey/fish oil/creatine/multi vitamin and good food sources.

people are nutty..

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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2011, 06:01:51 pm »
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Has anyone tried the Anaconda stack? I guess if none of us have, we should gladly STFU haha. I remember reading logs of guys using it and their strength was definitely sky rocketing the way Thib and that claimed it would.

As far as I've seen, many of T-Nation's products are backed by science. Curcumin, rhodiola rosea, fish oil etc. are well researched substances, providing benefits to the body.

My only beef is -like all of you said- the very aggressive, opposite-of-subtle plugging and marketing of their products in recent articles. You definitely get the feeling that some articles are edited, with plugs being inserted, not necessarily written by the original author.

well, they've made claims of 20+ lb lean mass in like 8 weeks or so using the anaconda stack, that isn't happening in trained athletes OR noobs.. so we don't have to actually try the stack to know they are bullshitting.

pC

WORD. The claims they're making aren't possible even if you've juiced so much the shit is spurting out of every last pore in your body. Besides the fact the products are basically a fancy casein shake and creatine supplement. The rest of the so-called "active ingredients" don't do shit. Some of them can't even be absorbed by your body. People are paying for expensive shit and piss essentially.

hm, is possible... a female sprinter put on 20lb in 4 weeks once she started using balcos steroids...

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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2011, 06:10:46 pm »
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I'd believe it if I saw it. Until that happens i'm calling bs. Your body would struggle to put on 20lbs of fat in 4 weeks...
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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2011, 06:54:51 pm »
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I just checked a log of someone doing a review on Anaconda. In 6 weeks he lost 1% bodyfat and gained 12.5 pounds. Those are drastic results. Furthermore, this guy has issues that prevent him from deadlifting, benching or squatting. That's pretty freaky don't you think. I mean, sure there could be fallacies in the measurements but that's crazy shit.

I say again, maybe we shouldn't knock it till we've tried it. I don't buy what Biotest are saying, but I'm open to the idea that their stuff is less BS than we think.
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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2011, 06:59:56 pm »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s-9EfpT_4c" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s-9EfpT_4c</a>

only in german, but u can believe me:

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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2011, 07:23:41 pm »
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its possible if you use a good stack using shit like Dbol, Fina, suspension, etc etc and your a noob with decent genetics and a clean diet and consistent training schedule aimed towards building muscle.

I did a cycle of Dymethazine by IForce Nutrition(prohormone) and i went from 218-235 and cut fat off

enough rambling, the anaconda stack or whatever it is, no it wont give you those gains, or else it'd be banned
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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2011, 07:43:49 pm »
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its possible if you use a good stack using shit like Dbol, Fina, suspension, etc etc and your a noob with decent genetics and a clean diet and consistent training schedule aimed towards building muscle.

I did a cycle of Dymethazine by IForce Nutrition(prohormone) and i went from 218-235 and cut fat off

enough rambling, the anaconda stack or whatever it is, no it wont give you those gains, or else it'd be banned

I don't know about this stuff, but how much did u pay for this cycle?

The base package those pro athletes get costs over 30000$ and if they want the best pack - the atomic bomb - they have to pay over 200000$.

If this cheaper stuff can give you results like you had... imagine what the atomic bomb could do :ibjumping:

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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2011, 07:47:14 pm »
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This thread is ridiculous.... :uhhhfacepalm:
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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2011, 07:59:53 pm »
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its possible if you use a good stack using shit like Dbol, Fina, suspension, etc etc and your a noob with decent genetics and a clean diet and consistent training schedule aimed towards building muscle.

I did a cycle of Dymethazine by IForce Nutrition(prohormone) and i went from 218-235 and cut fat off

enough rambling, the anaconda stack or whatever it is, no it wont give you those gains, or else it'd be banned

I don't know about this stuff, but how much did u pay for this cycle?

The base package those pro athletes get costs over 30000$ and if they want the best pack - the atomic bomb - they have to pay over 200000$.

If this cheaper stuff can give you results like you had... imagine what the atomic bomb could do :ibjumping:


No. A 12 week cycle of testosterone, deca/tren, and dbol/winstrol along with an AI and novladex will be under 500 dollars. Any more steroids than that in the same cycle is excessive.

It gets pricey when you start adding hgh and insulin in your drug regime but pro athletes only take those because they can't be detected/hard to detect.

A good prohormone cycle + nolva will be under 200 dollars. Steroids aren't as expensive as you think.
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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2011, 08:20:12 pm »
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3:15 in, balco douche claims Tim gained "28 lb of lean muscle in 8 weeks", using PEd's/roids etc.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1npYx14_JRc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1npYx14_JRc</a>

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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2011, 08:34:44 pm »
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its possible if you use a good stack using shit like Dbol, Fina, suspension, etc etc and your a noob with decent genetics and a clean diet and consistent training schedule aimed towards building muscle.

I did a cycle of Dymethazine by IForce Nutrition(prohormone) and i went from 218-235 and cut fat off

enough rambling, the anaconda stack or whatever it is, no it wont give you those gains, or else it'd be banned

I don't know about this stuff, but how much did u pay for this cycle?

The base package those pro athletes get costs over 30000$ and if they want the best pack - the atomic bomb - they have to pay over 200000$.

If this cheaper stuff can give you results like you had... imagine what the atomic bomb could do :ibjumping:


No. A 12 week cycle of testosterone, deca/tren, and dbol/winstrol along with an AI and novladex will be under 500 dollars. Any more steroids than that in the same cycle is excessive.

It gets pricey when you start adding hgh and insulin in your drug regime but pro athletes only take those because they can't be detected/hard to detect.

A good prohormone cycle + nolva will be under 200 dollars. Steroids aren't as expensive as you think.

very true, and it was when prohormones were legal so they were cheap,  I can still get them from a guy lol but it costs a lot more now.  and yeah, HGH can cost you anywhere from 150-300 dollars a day.  Testosterone only cycle tho wont give you those results in 8 weeks tho, considering it takes like 4-6 weeks to even have it kick in.  HGH isnt even a steroid, fags decided 1 day to just throw them in with the banned shit a long time ago.  and prohormones is simply a weaker form of roids.


But you can also look into peptides online, im thinking because they are marked as "for lab testing only" so you can get synthetic ghs, and you can even get Clen for a cutting cycle cheap.

but some steroids arent really around anymore because people are making fakes and even a "safe" steroid like primo costs a lot because of how much you have to take


but he def gained weight, not 28lbs of lean mass tho
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Re: Joe DeFranco
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2011, 04:24:15 am »
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its possible if you use a good stack using shit like Dbol, Fina, suspension, etc etc and your a noob with decent genetics and a clean diet and consistent training schedule aimed towards building muscle.

I did a cycle of Dymethazine by IForce Nutrition(prohormone) and i went from 218-235 and cut fat off

enough rambling, the anaconda stack or whatever it is, no it wont give you those gains, or else it'd be banned

I don't know about this stuff, but how much did u pay for this cycle?

The base package those pro athletes get costs over 30000$ and if they want the best pack - the atomic bomb - they have to pay over 200000$.

If this cheaper stuff can give you results like you had... imagine what the atomic bomb could do :ibjumping:


No. A 12 week cycle of testosterone, deca/tren, and dbol/winstrol along with an AI and novladex will be under 500 dollars. Any more steroids than that in the same cycle is excessive.

It gets pricey when you start adding hgh and insulin in your drug regime but pro athletes only take those because they can't be detected/hard to detect.

A good prohormone cycle + nolva will be under 200 dollars. Steroids aren't as expensive as you think.

as i said, i don't know about steroids, but it's just what those various pro athletes said in some documentaries.