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Title: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 07, 2010, 04:35:50 am
anyone who promotes this piece of shit is RED FLAGGED.. here's the list:
<fill list out heh, give me more names>
alex maroko
adam linkenauger






some old pics:

(http://www.adarq.org/various_images/squatflex.png)

(http://adarq.org/various_images/oh-no-squatflex.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQtD-pb7jWM

LOL

sad.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: heh on November 07, 2010, 04:36:35 am
ahahahahh winz
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: ARTAthletix on November 15, 2010, 12:46:39 am
Dude, his first dunk was a windmill. How could you not believe him  :D
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Jard on November 15, 2010, 06:13:49 am
Whatever happened to B.A. (and Slam)?
Dude looks  :'(
I remember he used to roam the forums and actually made some impressive results due to his work ethic
(albeit telling us it mostly due to JumpUSA,  SMH, All 4 tha $$$).

I remember his 2 foot vert increasing HEAPS though, from not even being close to dunking to throwing down windmills.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 15, 2010, 06:20:13 am
Whatever happened to B.A. (and Slam)?
Dude looks  :'(
I remember he used to roam the forums and actually made some impressive results due to his work ethic
(albeit telling us it mostly due to JumpUSA,  SMH, All 4 tha $$$).

I remember his 2 foot vert increasing HEAPS though, from not even being close to dunking to throwing down windmills.

not sure about BA.. both of those dudes whore out jumpusa so they bug the hell out of me.. BUT, SLAM is coming off a car accident or something, where he got pretty badly hurt, i guess.. he recently posted something on streetballin.net:

Quote
About a year ago i was in the best shape of my life at 215 pounds and was up to a Running vertical of 44-45 inches. I landed the Switch between the legs Dunk, Cradle between legs 2 hand Reverse aswell as the first ever Cradle 360 dunk. I Won Burger Kings "Next Best Move" contest and $10,000 aswell as a Dime Magazine article. I was in a serious car wreck and messed my right knee up, i had 2 knee surgerys and have been on the road to recovery for over a year now. I can now Dunk easy and run games 4 days a week. My goal is to loose 20+ pounds and get back training hard. I wanna comeback strong and not afraid to go 100% so im in the process of a comeback Dunk video. Shoutouts to Ghost, D-thacker, Ba, 720, Elevator, Hawk, Kenny Dobbs,Remix, and the countless ballers ive balled with over last 4 years.

so ya, as much as these dudes bug the hell out of me, hope he heals up great and comes back better than before.

peace
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 15, 2010, 03:55:25 pm
can you believe these people promote this piece of shit? it really causes legit anger inside of me....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaOJ6cEY3Xo

check this from his description:


Quote
"I've been using the squat flex for four weeks now, and im on 4 bands on each side. I'm squatting twice my weight. I'm 5"11 with shoes and weigh 140lbs.

I went from hardly touching backboard to now sometimes touching rim on 10Ft goal in 4 weeks ( and I'm only using 4 bands.)


I'm wearing all that protective shit because i hurt my back using it with 3 bands. That black thing around my waist is actually a mcdavid rap around for the back. should i be using anything else?

The thing with squat flex is that i cant get the best form. With such a small platform i cant separate my legs far apart to squat, and i cant really get my back straight. the bands also stop giving resistance when you squat all the way down to the 90 degree angle on your legs. When i use it i feel the burn more in the knees then in the quads. It feels a little weird doing it, it doesn't feel right. but so far its kinda working.

questions: Is there anyway to improve my form. Does the squat flex work on all leg muscles. is it true that when you hit 7 bands on each side, you can dunk.


i got the system for 297 instead of 497.

please give me your opinions and suggestions. and dont say its a waste of money, all i wanna know is if it works for anyone that uses it.

I'll be making another video soon.
"



ANY COACH WHO DIRECTLY/INDIRECTLY PROMOTES THIS SHIT IS SHUNNED FOR LIFE.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: JackW on November 15, 2010, 04:19:40 pm
I agree with you on this 100% Andrew. You know I got hate email from people when I posted my deadflex video. I can only assume people don't like it when you point out that they get ripped off.

Luke Lowery actually claims he invented the thing in TVP 3.0 by the way. This from a man who says squats make you slow and bands are bad. Must have OD'd on the Adenotrex that day and made his brain super explosive.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Raptor on November 15, 2010, 04:49:06 pm
Must have OD'd on the Adenotrex that day and made his brain super explosive supir xploziv.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 15, 2010, 05:27:39 pm
luke lowery is a loser.


pics of the kid in the vid, sad:

(http://imgur.com/94fMR.png)

(http://imgur.com/Q9JIN.png)
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 16, 2010, 03:30:06 am
http://vertfreak101.com/training/showthread.php?974-Squat-Flex
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: TheSituation on November 16, 2010, 07:50:10 am
Must have OD'd on the Adenotrex that day and made his brain super explosive supir xploziv.

literally pissed my pants
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: aiir on November 16, 2010, 06:35:48 pm
http://vertfreak101.com/training/showthread.php?974-Squat-Flex
lol deleted link...wow.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 16, 2010, 06:37:50 pm
http://vertfreak101.com/training/showthread.php?974-Squat-Flex
lol deleted link...wow.

when people delete links, they lose, we win..

alex maroko deleted the callEmOut link on his facebook, a-link deleted the squatflex thread on VF.. so i mean, we know we're right when that happens, otherwise the link wouldn't be deleted..

just helps to further re-establish our dominance about being on the "just" side of the issue :)

pC
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Raptor on November 17, 2010, 04:29:01 am
Sucks you haven't made any screenshots with the thread, I wonder what was in it.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 17, 2010, 04:44:13 am
Sucks you haven't made any screenshots with the thread, I wonder what was in it.

i posted pics from this thread and talked a little bit of shit, nothing major.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: XxZxX on November 19, 2010, 03:39:31 pm
luke lowery is a loser.


pics of the kid in the vid, sad:

(http://imgur.com/94fMR.png)

(http://imgur.com/Q9JIN.png)

LOL? like that belt is going to save his back from this poor posture. 
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Raptor on November 19, 2010, 04:20:19 pm
I don't know why everybody (and I'm not talking about anyone in specific) think the belt is to protect the back... if anything, it protects the abs/core, they have something to push against so they activate better (valsalva) which in turn does indeed protect the back. So it's an indirect correlation. Whatever.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: mike.1283 on November 19, 2010, 07:33:17 pm
I don't know why everybody (and I'm not talking about anyone in specific) think the belt is to protect the back... if anything, it protects the abs/core, they have something to push against so they activate better (valsalva) which in turn does indeed protect the back. So it's an indirect correlation. Whatever.

You are correct it CAN protect the core to create "intra-abdominal pressure" but it also forces the abs and core to do less work in turn becoming weaker and more dependant on said belt.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Raptor on November 20, 2010, 05:18:57 am
Oh yeah absolutely. I think it's cool to wear a belt for testing purposes. 1RM-3RM stuff. You should not use it unless you're injured and still want to get some work in with lower weights or if you're just doing lighter than 3RM stuff in my opinion.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: mike.1283 on November 20, 2010, 11:51:35 am
I can agree with that.

On a completely separate note, because this was started by discussing Squat Flex, and JumpUSA and affiliates.  I already know I'm gettin criticized for this post by certain indivuals here and I really don't care.  I am not condoning the use of the Squat Flex "Hack Squat" or any of its kind, by my statement either just making a few observations.

More recently I've been doing (tryin to do) more deadlifts with "EliteFTS Pro Short Bands" and even though I like the resistance I don't like the exercise because of inconvenience, and I think it would be easier if those bands were set up on something such as a platform (like the squat-flex appears, hence why I'm posting here).  Just having the bands hooked under my feet and on the bar, it seems like balance could become inconsistent, and it rubs quite heavily along my knees/lower legs, and also because of its placement I also end up changing my grip width on the bar.  So just some observations.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 20, 2010, 03:52:33 pm
I can agree with that.

On a completely separate note, because this was started by discussing Squat Flex, and JumpUSA and affiliates.  I already know I'm gettin criticized for this post by certain indivuals here and I really don't care.  I am not condoning the use of the Squat Flex "Hack Squat" or any of its kind, by my statement either just making a few observations.

More recently I've been doing (tryin to do) more deadlifts with "EliteFTS Pro Short Bands" and even though I like the resistance I don't like the exercise because of inconvenience, and I think it would be easier if those bands were set up on something such as a platform (like the squat-flex appears, hence why I'm posting here).  Just having the bands hooked under my feet and on the bar, it seems like balance could become inconsistent, and it rubs quite heavily along my knees/lower legs, and also because of its placement I also end up changing my grip width on the bar.  So just some observations.

right, hook the bands onto heavy db's, power rack, or something else.

(http://www.idahopowerlifting.com/images/deadsbandsetup_ryan.jpg)

(http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/KhalipaBandDeadliftDeck_th.jpg)

(http://www.crossfitwest.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ed-band-dl-1.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6QDgDH2jkgU/S5RU_pSkciI/AAAAAAAAACU/_LU2Z2k2O-A/s320/Deadlift.jpg)

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MyvkXoi75mE/0.jpg)

(http://christianiron.com/images/platform%20deadlift%20with%20bands%20setup.jpg)

done.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: JackW on November 21, 2010, 04:25:41 am
brilliant post Andrew.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 21, 2010, 04:46:40 pm
brilliant post Andrew.

thanks man, even more brilliant, credit2lanceSTS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mqdTVOtG6k
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: mike.1283 on November 21, 2010, 07:51:57 pm
I can agree with that.

On a completely separate note, because this was started by discussing Squat Flex, and JumpUSA and affiliates.  I already know I'm gettin criticized for this post by certain indivuals here and I really don't care.  I am not condoning the use of the Squat Flex "Hack Squat" or any of its kind, by my statement either just making a few observations.

More recently I've been doing (tryin to do) more deadlifts with "EliteFTS Pro Short Bands" and even though I like the resistance I don't like the exercise because of inconvenience, and I think it would be easier if those bands were set up on something such as a platform (like the squat-flex appears, hence why I'm posting here).  Just having the bands hooked under my feet and on the bar, it seems like balance could become inconsistent, and it rubs quite heavily along my knees/lower legs, and also because of its placement I also end up changing my grip width on the bar.  So just some observations.

right, hook the bands onto heavy db's, power rack, or something else.

(http://www.idahopowerlifting.com/images/deadsbandsetup_ryan.jpg)

(http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/KhalipaBandDeadliftDeck_th.jpg)

(http://www.crossfitwest.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ed-band-dl-1.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6QDgDH2jkgU/S5RU_pSkciI/AAAAAAAAACU/_LU2Z2k2O-A/s320/Deadlift.jpg)

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MyvkXoi75mE/0.jpg)

(http://christianiron.com/images/platform%20deadlift%20with%20bands%20setup.jpg)

done.


Thanks, last 1 on bottom looks a little bit like I was trying to set up.  I've been hookin them under my feet (They are the "pro short" bands), but that's not my fav method.  Good post.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 24, 2010, 01:29:03 pm
jacob hiller on the squatflex dick. leave some comments if you guys have facebooks, im sure he'll be deleting..

http://www.howtojumphigher.org/

(http://i52.tinypic.com/1424i2u.png)

add hiller to the official list of squatflex promoters, this list, as we all know, is not good to be on.

Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: John Stamos on November 24, 2010, 01:47:33 pm
on the flying101 dvd if my memory is right, BA says some kid bet him 20 bucks he couldnt dunk so he worked out blah and 1 day in the gym he went up and dunked it.  Never mentions a kid giving him an oop.  he also gave me his super secret workout plan which blew nut sack....and no mention of a squat flex in it (this was before they promoted jumpusa)

OhNo never mentions anything about doing a windmill for his first dunk, i think he mightve said it was just a 1 hander on the dvd, ill have to look again.  Also within 1 or 2 years ago in a vid, everyone went ape shit because ohno could finally do between the legs...but he claims he did it what shortly after his first dunk?
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: John Stamos on November 24, 2010, 01:49:39 pm
I can agree with that.

On a completely separate note, because this was started by discussing Squat Flex, and JumpUSA and affiliates.  I already know I'm gettin criticized for this post by certain indivuals here and I really don't care.  I am not condoning the use of the Squat Flex "Hack Squat" or any of its kind, by my statement either just making a few observations.

More recently I've been doing (tryin to do) more deadlifts with "EliteFTS Pro Short Bands" and even though I like the resistance I don't like the exercise because of inconvenience, and I think it would be easier if those bands were set up on something such as a platform (like the squat-flex appears, hence why I'm posting here).  Just having the bands hooked under my feet and on the bar, it seems like balance could become inconsistent, and it rubs quite heavily along my knees/lower legs, and also because of its placement I also end up changing my grip width on the bar.  So just some observations.


the short bands are meant for the deadlift platform, i have them too and cant use them since they were a lot shorter than i figured.  but they sell the platform  for 180 dollars or so( for conventional )  i think the sumo one is over 200 dollars
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 24, 2010, 01:53:56 pm
on the flying101 dvd if my memory is right, BA says some kid bet him 20 bucks he couldnt dunk so he worked out blah and 1 day in the gym he went up and dunked it.  Never mentions a kid giving him an oop.  he also gave me his super secret workout plan which blew nut sack....and no mention of a squat flex in it (this was before they promoted jumpusa)

OhNo never mentions anything about doing a windmill for his first dunk, i think he mightve said it was just a 1 hander on the dvd, ill have to look again.  Also within 1 or 2 years ago in a vid, everyone went ape shit because ohno could finally do between the legs...but he claims he did it what shortly after his first dunk?

can you get me that dvd footage of them talking about their first dunks, i'd like to post that to show how jumpusa turned them into whores and had them lie..

plz plz plz

thnx
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: John Stamos on November 24, 2010, 02:07:04 pm
only if you say please

and what i can do is just vid tape that part with my camera and send it over
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: John Stamos on November 26, 2010, 01:27:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcuphdWxcp8



SUCH A FUCKING LIAR


adarq ill get you the video from the dvd


he says in the flying101 dvd, talking like a speak n spell, "I DO NOT TRAIN FOR MY HOPS, I AM ALL NATURAL"

along those lines, because after he says that (everyone said they are all natural) Azur says now these guys know they have to start working out to get to the next level, then it goes to myrees part i believe where it shows him dunking and a little workout
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: John Stamos on November 26, 2010, 01:59:24 pm
i gotta find it in the dvd n i dont have much time left so prolly later tonight
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Raptor on November 26, 2010, 04:32:43 pm
Myree actually works out and worked out in the past, I have pictures with him front squatting 400 or something to that value.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 26, 2010, 06:42:43 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcuphdWxcp8



SUCH A FUCKING LIAR


adarq ill get you the video from the dvd


he says in the flying101 dvd, talking like a speak n spell, "I DO NOT TRAIN FOR MY HOPS, I AM ALL NATURAL"

along those lines, because after he says that (everyone said they are all natural) Azur says now these guys know they have to start working out to get to the next level, then it goes to myrees part i believe where it shows him dunking and a little workout

so you found the DVD? hope so.. good shit

ya man, it's pathetic, slam should get "jumpusa whore" tatted to his chest.. i just don't get how he can sit there and bullshit like that and then feel good about himself.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 26, 2010, 06:43:23 pm
Myree actually works out and worked out in the past, I have pictures with him front squatting 400 or something to that value.

post some pics in the myree thread in basketball subforum mang.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Raptor on November 26, 2010, 07:00:44 pm
I actually don't have them anymore as I changed my computer, Nightfly might have them.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Nightfly on November 26, 2010, 07:01:28 pm
Wait a sec, i'll search
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: John Stamos on November 26, 2010, 11:32:10 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcuphdWxcp8



SUCH A FUCKING LIAR


adarq ill get you the video from the dvd


he says in the flying101 dvd, talking like a speak n spell, "I DO NOT TRAIN FOR MY HOPS, I AM ALL NATURAL"

along those lines, because after he says that (everyone said they are all natural) Azur says now these guys know they have to start working out to get to the next level, then it goes to myrees part i believe where it shows him dunking and a little workout

so you found the DVD? hope so.. good shit

ya man, it's pathetic, slam should get "jumpusa whore" tatted to his chest.. i just don't get how he can sit there and bullshit like that and then feel good about himself.


got it
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on November 28, 2010, 01:22:38 am
someone url'd me this:


lol
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: John Stamos on November 28, 2010, 09:40:30 am
lmao PERFECT
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: vag on December 01, 2010, 04:08:51 am
Interesting :

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU)
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on December 01, 2010, 06:17:40 am
Interesting :

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU)

i like how he admits the marketing of squatflex is "out of control", that's a good sign.. as for what i agree with him about, in a pm exchange with him, i did say that if someone (an adult athlete, not a kid) has absolutely no way to get to a gym or freeweights, then it could become an option as long as form is good.. with form being good, adding band tension after a few months of usage will result in strength gains.. i mean you can still fatigue mu's/recruit more mu's etc, so you're going to get improvements in strength to a point.. but given the price, that would never allow me to say someone should get it in a "last option scenario", because for the same price you could get a bar & nearly 300 lb of plates for less than the discount amount of squatflex ($297 USD).

i do not condone squatflex at all for young athletes (< 17 years old).. get in a damn gym or do bodyweight, band tension on a device has no place in their training...

hiller was cool in pm's, least he's willing to talk about this shit heh.. i never got around to watching his video fully even though i downloaded it, the one where he weighs the pros and cons, eventually i will and i'll dissect it.

peace mang
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: vag on December 01, 2010, 07:36:30 am
Didn't see the vid either , that's why i linked the comments , i found it interesting that he said:

Quote
Second, I think the hype? marketing done for Squat Flex is out of control.

Quote
Debates about price OR about how Jump USA markets their products are really beside the point. I just tried to bring to lite what I believe is the real issue... without? hype.

Quote
On a side note I like and respect Adarqui and agree with some of what he says about Squat Flex, but the benefits I talk about have little to do with his objections.

etc
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: TheSituation on December 01, 2010, 12:56:10 pm
lol at him

1. Jump USA says the squat flex is better than actual squatting. They aren't promoting it as an alternative. So no, their target audience is not people who can't get to a gym

2. It costs as much as a year membership to my gym, and my gym is one of the best in NJ.

3. Their "target audience" is kids, and we all know kids want to jump higher in 2 minutes, so they are gonna try all the bands, because jump usa says if you get all the bands, you will dunk guaranteed. They will get hurt and that's that.

Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: LanceSTS on December 01, 2010, 02:38:36 pm
Interesting :

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU)

 In those comments Jumpoutthegympromo started out good, he backed off when Jacob manipulated the situation by saying "I really like your channel man" etc., which I believe has two vids of golf swings on it.  Same exact thing hes trying to do with adarqui, he knows damn well he would see that when mike posted the website address, if he can smooth it over by saying nice shit then maybe adarq will back off and let him scam in peace.

  Notice he did not do the original exercise the piece of shit is marketed for, I would bet money thats because his form wouldve looked like dog shit just like the kid in the other vid.  Hes reaching for ways to validate that piece of trash because hes getting paid to do so.  Trying to manipulate the situation like hes doing is even more scummy than just flat out saying fuck yall im scamming to get paid.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Raptor on December 01, 2010, 02:42:45 pm
Interesting :

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU)

 In those comments Mike started out good, he backed off when Jacob manipulated the situation by saying "I really like your channel man" etc., which I believe has two vids of golf swings on it.  Same exact thing hes trying to do with adarqui, he knows damn well he would see that when mike posted the website address, if he can smooth it over by saying nice shit then maybe adarq will back off and let him scam in peace.

  Notice he did not do the original exercise the piece of shit is marketed for, I would bet money thats because his form wouldve looked like dog shit just like the kid in the other vid.  Hes reaching for ways to validate that piece of trash because hes getting paid to do so.  Trying to manipulate the situation like hes doing is even more scummy than just flat out saying fuck yall im scamming to get paid.

That's 100% correct, mr. Columbo.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: LanceSTS on December 01, 2010, 02:45:38 pm
Interesting :

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU)

 In those commentsJumpoutthegympromo started out good, he backed off when Jacob manipulated the situation by saying "I really like your channel man" etc., which I believe has two vids of golf swings on it.  Same exact thing hes trying to do with adarqui, he knows damn well he would see that when mike posted the website address, if he can smooth it over by saying nice shit then maybe adarq will back off and let him scam in peace.

  Notice he did not do the original exercise the piece of shit is marketed for, I would bet money thats because his form wouldve looked like dog shit just like the kid in the other vid.  Hes reaching for ways to validate that piece of trash because hes getting paid to do so.  Trying to manipulate the situation like hes doing is even more scummy than just flat out saying fuck yall im scamming to get paid.

That's 100% correct, mr. Columbo.

Lol
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: mike.1283 on December 02, 2010, 04:25:25 pm
Why is my name being brought up in all these discussions.  Please limit/eliminate me from discussions of this product, if you could be so kind.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: LanceSTS on December 02, 2010, 08:50:33 pm
Why is my name being brought up in all these discussions.  Please limit/eliminate me from discussions of this product, if you could be so kind.

Fixed it man, my bad, just made up some random name so no one will ever know.  Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: mike.1283 on December 02, 2010, 09:08:13 pm
Why is my name being brought up in all these discussions.  Please limit/eliminate me from discussions of this product, if you could be so kind.

Fixed it man, my bad, just made up some random name so no one will ever know.  Sorry about that.

O of course so you go with the "Jump Out the Gym Promo" instead, damn and I thought u were serious when I started readin that.  Its a shame.

I think everyone gets it by now Lance, you're the coolest guy to post to forums, you're not to be fucked with.  If you want to talk training let me know, other than that don't waste your time trying to "call me out" or "punk me", cuz quite frankly I don't care.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: LanceSTS on December 03, 2010, 12:01:55 am
Why is my name being brought up in all these discussions.  Please limit/eliminate me from discussions of this product, if you could be so kind.

Fixed it man, my bad, just made up some random name so no one will ever know.  Sorry about that.

O of course so you go with the "Jump Out the Gym Promo" instead, damn and I thought u were serious when I started readin that.  Its a shame.

I think everyone gets it by now Lance, you're the coolest guy to post to forums, you're not to be fucked with. 

x2, good post.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: mike.1283 on December 03, 2010, 07:34:35 am
Why is my name being brought up in all these discussions.  Please limit/eliminate me from discussions of this product, if you could be so kind.

Fixed it man, my bad, just made up some random name so no one will ever know.  Sorry about that.

O of course so you go with the "Jump Out the Gym Promo" instead, damn and I thought u were serious when I started readin that.  Its a shame.

I think everyone gets it by now Lance, you're the coolest guy to post to forums, you're not to be fucked with.

x2, good post.

Hmm not so much.

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you're the coolest guy to post to forums
To reference the movie "Waiting" "That's like being the smartest kid with down syndrome", but keep tooting your own horn maybe it will help u become a better trainer.  Your arm must get tired from patting yourself on the back.  Your act is old and boring by now.  Like I said you wanna talk training then let me know.

Cue the fat kid with the shake weight vid.  C'mon, lets be original here, even you should be better than that.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: LanceSTS on December 03, 2010, 11:33:35 am
  Mike, I was trying to be nice and ignore you but youre getting more and more annoying.  Dude, YOURE A FAT, SLOPPY, GOOD AT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, WEAK AS DOGSHIT, RETARDED, MORON.  Stop wasting valuable space on the forum posting your idiotic trash.  Nobody is "calling you out" LOL, you are a NOBODY, why the fuck would I call you out? heh, nobody was saying anything bad about your fatass either until you got on here saying "take my name out of the discussion blablabla."  I get sick of reading youre 1st grade iq level replies, just do something else like create play-do animals with your time, youre a big fucking waste of space. 

  I dont get it Mike, there are tons of threads of you asking for help where I spent time trying to help your fat ass, now all of the sudden youre bad and hard.  Be who you really are inside Mike, stop pretending.  Be that weak, fat fucking tub of shit that you are in real life online too, everyone can see it anyway.  Dont front, be real.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: John Stamos on December 03, 2010, 12:14:07 pm
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Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Raptor on December 03, 2010, 01:18:27 pm
THAT'S IT, TAKE MY NAME OUT OF THE DISCUSSION NOW!!!

Oh wait... :ninja:
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: mike.1283 on December 03, 2010, 02:49:35 pm
 Mike, I was trying to be nice and ignore you but youre getting more and more annoying.  Dude, YOURE A FAT, SLOPPY, GOOD AT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, WEAK AS DOGSHIT, RETARDED, MORON.  Stop wasting valuable space on the forum posting your idiotic trash.  Nobody is "calling you out" LOL, you are a NOBODY, why the fuck would I call you out? heh, nobody was saying anything bad about your fatass either until you got on here saying "take my name out of the discussion blablabla."  I get sick of reading youre 1st grade iq level replies, just do something else like create play-do animals with your time, youre a big fucking waste of space.  

  I dont get it Mike, there are tons of threads of you asking for help where I spent time trying to help your fat ass, now all of the sudden youre bad and hard.  Be who you really are inside Mike, stop pretending.  Be that weak, fat fucking tub of shit that you are in real life online too, everyone can see it anyway.  Dont front, be real.

A few key points, 1st off your still not talking training, what's annoying is that I actually have to defend myself on this forum.

2nd You made this personal not me
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doubt he will join and say anything, have a pretty good idea he has a nut hugger telling him about the thread and  how many other people are laughing at him.  No need to come on here when you have a secret spy nut huggerto bring you info.
- from the Jump Out the Gym thread, have to guess that's at least slightly geared towards me.

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Just stay clear of his hip flexors bro  

(nut hugger reports back, "LanceSTS just made fun of you too")

Seein that I've never seen anyone else on any of the forums who talk to him, (also funny he pointed me in the direction of that original Youtube/comments from Adarq, regarding jumping mail boxes, but that's another story.)

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What is the point of the video you posted?  Are you mad because you promoted the shake weight Mike?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fNyFwegMDo&feature=player_embedded

When all that was mentioned was please take me out of the comments, because I was debating with Jacob JumpUSA's claims and all the sudden it becomes about what I said and didn't say.  U all the sudden turn it around and try and make it about the affiliation I have with another trainer.

So let me know when you want to talk training, cuz other than that there's no point.

Lastly to go to another post, how did I get "OWNED" what I got called fat, like I don't look in the mirror every day and notice the weight what are u serious, that post had absolutely no valuable info on it, it calls me fat and weak right, I'm pretty sure the rest of whatever was posted there is useless garbage.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: LanceSTS on December 03, 2010, 05:22:19 pm
ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz............ yawn.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZ

back on track, squatflex sux

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2oAf90bVU

Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on December 03, 2010, 05:25:30 pm
ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz............ yawn.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZ

back on track, squatflex sux

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2oAf90bVU



ahahahaha @ that way that is edited, holy shit..

i laughed my ass off.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: BMully on December 03, 2010, 05:29:43 pm
Interesting :

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=CWIez1fdpGU)

i like how he admits the marketing of squatflex is "out of control", that's a good sign.. as for what i agree with him about, in a pm exchange with him, i did say that if someone (an adult athlete, not a kid) has absolutely no way to get to a gym or freeweights, then it could become an option as long as form is good.. with form being good, adding band tension after a few months of usage will result in strength gains.. i mean you can still fatigue mu's/recruit more mu's etc, so you're going to get improvements in strength to a point.. but given the price, that would never allow me to say someone should get it in a "last option scenario", because for the same price you could get a bar & nearly 300 lb of plates for less than the discount amount of squatflex ($297 USD).

i do not condone squatflex at all for young athletes (< 17 years old).. get in a damn gym or do bodyweight, band tension on a device has no place in their training...

hiller was cool in pm's, least he's willing to talk about this shit heh.. i never got around to watching his video fully even though i downloaded it, the one where he weighs the pros and cons, eventually i will and i'll dissect it.

peace mang

I got bench/squat 300lbs of weights (i can add 5lbs at a time all the way to 300lbs) and a bar..cost only $300(used)

way better than that squatflex piece of trash

Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: BMully on December 03, 2010, 06:00:21 pm
Why is my name being brought up in all these discussions.  Please limit/eliminate me from discussions of this product, if you could be so kind.

Fixed it man, my bad, just made up some random name so no one will ever know.  Sorry about that.

O of course so you go with the "Jump Out the Gym Promo" instead, damn and I thought u were serious when I started readin that.  Its a shame.

I think everyone gets it by now Lance, you're the coolest guy to post to forums, you're not to be fucked with. 

x2, good post.

FUCKING HELL YEA X3
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: BMully on December 03, 2010, 06:09:45 pm
 Mike, I was trying to be nice and ignore you but youre getting more and more annoying.  Dude, YOURE A FAT, SLOPPY, GOOD AT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, WEAK AS DOGSHIT, RETARDED, MORON.  Stop wasting valuable space on the forum posting your idiotic trash.  Nobody is "calling you out" LOL, you are a NOBODY, why the fuck would I call you out? heh, nobody was saying anything bad about your fatass either until you got on here saying "take my name out of the discussion blablabla."  I get sick of reading youre 1st grade iq level replies, just do something else like create play-do animals with your time, youre a big fucking waste of space.  

  I dont get it Mike, there are tons of threads of you asking for help where I spent time trying to help your fat ass, now all of the sudden youre bad and hard.  Be who you really are inside Mike, stop pretending.  Be that weak, fat fucking tub of shit that you are in real life online too, everyone can see it anyway.  Dont front, be real.

A few key points, 1st off your still not talking training, what's annoying is that I actually have to defend myself on this forum.

2nd You made this personal not me
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doubt he will join and say anything, have a pretty good idea he has a nut hugger telling him about the thread and  how many other people are laughing at him.  No need to come on here when you have a secret spy nut huggerto bring you info.
- from the Jump Out the Gym thread, have to guess that's at least slightly geared towards me.

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Just stay clear of his hip flexors bro  

(nut hugger reports back, "LanceSTS just made fun of you too")

Seein that I've never seen anyone else on any of the forums who talk to him, (also funny he pointed me in the direction of that original Youtube/comments from Adarq, regarding jumping mail boxes, but that's another story.)

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What is the point of the video you posted?  Are you mad because you promoted the shake weight Mike?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fNyFwegMDo&feature=player_embedded

When all that was mentioned was please take me out of the comments, because I was debating with Jacob JumpUSA's claims and all the sudden it becomes about what I said and didn't say.  U all the sudden turn it around and try and make it about the affiliation I have with another trainer.

So let me know when you want to talk training, cuz other than that there's no point.

Lastly to go to another post, how did I get "OWNED" what I got called fat, like I don't look in the mirror every day and notice the weight what are u serious, that post had absolutely no valuable info on it, it calls me fat and weak right, I'm pretty sure the rest of whatever was posted there is useless garbage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9kpTvm6CYA
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: mike.1283 on December 03, 2010, 06:15:26 pm
Haha excellent.  But please lets get back to the topic at hand which was JumpUSA and Squatflex.  Who wants to talk training right.

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Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: bball2020 on December 03, 2010, 06:27:35 pm
dont know this mike guy, but lance pretty childish and unprofessional to go at someone and call them fat, especially if you are a coach or whatever on this site..just saying



anyways squat flex rulez
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: mike.1283 on December 03, 2010, 06:31:49 pm
dont know this mike guy, but lance pretty childish and unprofessional to go at someone and call them fat, especially if you are a coach or whatever on this site..just saying



anyways squat flex rulez

Don't know who u are but thank you.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Jard on December 03, 2010, 07:07:23 pm
TELL 'EM LANCE!
This got to be one of the best threads I ever read in the history of the internet, hotdamn dudes goin in hard.
I bet you wanted to delete a part of that GOATpost but was too pissed off anyway; THE RAGEEEEE!@#

Anyway
My personal oppinion is hey, if you're a dumb#*(%& and buy into all that advertising, then too bad for you, if you're looking for shortcuts you're not going to get anywhere any time soon anyway.
I know I wasn't getting no squatflex @ 400 bucks when I was 15,
F that, did do some Air Alert but started reading books right when I started so I knocked that shit off soon enough

Conclusion =
Don't get too upset @ dumb people, they do what they do regardless.
Just cause they don't seek knowledge don't make you responsible for their impatience, it's THEIR fault they buy something without preparing adequately, that's just the way it is.

Am I disgusted by the advertising and product? Yes. Would I rather have it's owners and endoursers get bukake'd? definately yes.
But starting a war against commercial products is pretty much putting a lot of negative energy (that could be better spend positively, making the curious/truly indoustrious athletes better) into the wrong kind of people anyway imo.
Try and convince dudes if they cross your path, but forget about knocking over and destroying the squatflex for now, put all that energy into your 45" and those curious youngsters that find their way here.

2 cents added,

Pce
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: BMully on December 03, 2010, 07:15:45 pm
TELL 'EM LANCE!
This got to be one of the best threads I ever read in the history of the internet, hotdamn dudes goin in hard.
I bet you wanted to delete a part of that GOATpost but was too pissed off anyway; THE RAGEEEEE!@#

Anyway
My personal oppinion is hey, if you're a dumb#*(%& and buy into all that advertising, then too bad for you, if you're looking for shortcuts you're not going to get anywhere any time soon anyway.
I know I wasn't getting no squatflex @ 400 bucks when I was 15,
F that, did do some Air Alert but started reading books right when I started so I knocked that shit off soon enough

Conclusion =
Don't get too upset @ dumb people, they do what they do regardless.
Just cause they don't seek knowledge don't make you responsible for their impatience, it's THEIR fault they buy something without preparing adequately, that's just the way it is.

Am I disgusted by the advertising and product? Yes. Would I rather have it's owners and endoursers get bukake'd? definately yes.
But starting a war against commercial products is pretty much putting a lot of negative energy (that could be better spend positively, making the curious/truly indoustrious athletes better) into the wrong kind of people anyway imo.
Try and convince dudes if they cross your path, but forget about knocking over and destroying the squatflex for now, put all that energy into your 45" and those curious youngsters that find their way here.

2 cents added,

Pce

+1
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: LanceSTS on December 03, 2010, 10:39:47 pm
TELL 'EM LANCE!
This got to be one of the best threads I ever read in the history of the internet, hotdamn dudes goin in hard.
I bet you wanted to delete a part of that GOATpost but was too pissed off anyway; THE RAGEEEEE!@#

Anyway
My personal oppinion is hey, if you're a dumb#*(%& and buy into all that advertising, then too bad for you, if you're looking for shortcuts you're not going to get anywhere any time soon anyway.
I know I wasn't getting no squatflex @ 400 bucks when I was 15,
F that, did do some Air Alert but started reading books right when I started so I knocked that shit off soon enough

Conclusion =
Don't get too upset @ dumb people, they do what they do regardless.
Just cause they don't seek knowledge don't make you responsible for their impatience, it's THEIR fault they buy something without preparing adequately, that's just the way it is.

Am I disgusted by the advertising and product? Yes. Would I rather have it's owners and endoursers get bukake'd? definately yes.
But starting a war against commercial products is pretty much putting a lot of negative energy (that could be better spend positively, making the curious/truly indoustrious athletes better) into the wrong kind of people anyway imo.
Try and convince dudes if they cross your path, but forget about knocking over and destroying the squatflex for now, put all that energy into your 45" and those curious youngsters that find their way here.

2 cents added,

Pce

haha, yea man exactly
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on December 04, 2010, 03:45:25 am
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Am I disgusted by the advertising and product? Yes. Would I rather have it's owners and endoursers get bukake'd? definately yes.

the endorsers would enjoy that bro..
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on December 15, 2010, 01:11:48 am
bynum: GUTTS
[01:10am] adarq: .yt squatflex dunk
[01:10am] Sh0gun: adarq: HOW TO JUMP HIGHER INSTANTLY WITH JUMPSOLES & SQUATFLEX ::: DUNKS + HALF SQUAT 265 @ 5x10, 235 x 20 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujsCIYN8-HM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[01:10am] bynum: GUTTTTTTTTTTS!
[01:10am] adarq:
[01:10am] adarq: .yt squatflex training
[01:10am] Sh0gun: adarq: PARENTAL ADVISORY : SQUATFLEX TRAINING : Messing around, half squat 305 x 5 + 225 @ 10x10, dunks - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiJilzBEhwE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[01:10am] adarq:
[01:10am] adarq: owned.
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Jard on December 24, 2010, 05:19:20 am
SMH @ flying 101
Motivation for Darq's next jumping session; 45" for sure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WngOhlMOHTs
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: adarqui on December 25, 2010, 12:03:17 am
SMH @ flying 101
Motivation for Darq's next jumping session; 45" for sure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WngOhlMOHTs

ya that shit bugged me hardcore, check the "coaches who promote squatflex thread", i dropped comments on flying101's channel and they deleted them like the bitches they are, and blocked me..

christian dunk crew promoting grotesquely overpriced garbage on x-mas = want to puke.

 :-\
Title: Re: Jumpusa - jumpsoles - squatflex - scam scammer fraud
Post by: Raptor on December 25, 2010, 07:21:52 am
SMH @ flying 101
Motivation for Darq's next jumping session; 45" for sure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WngOhlMOHTs

ya that shit bugged me hardcore, check the "coaches who promote squatflex thread", i dropped comments on flying101's channel and they deleted them like the bitches they are, and blocked me..

christian dunk crew promoting grotesquely overpriced garbage on x-mas = want to puke.

 :-\

Well I guess Jesus would be proud. These are the same kind of people that judge you later thinking they have the right to (on that note, nobody does, actually).