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lamp

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Lamp, go away though. Seriously. The point you are trying to make has nothing to do with kellyB using legal PEDs.

ha I realise the topic has been derailed considerably...

i apologise  :-[

back to kellyb...

he was wrong to advertise his products without mentioning that he had other things to aid in his transformation

what else is there to say?

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stop listening to charlie francis, seriously, when he says "everyone is cheating", he's just justifying his own pathetic cheater actions.

+1 to that.

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the nightmare situation you put at the end describes the current situation in athletics, if you want to win you have to dope.

So what are Usain Bolt, Tyson Gay & Asafa Powell juicing up on?.








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Lamp, go away though. Seriously. The point you are trying to make has nothing to do with kellyB using legal PEDs.

ha I realise the topic has been derailed considerably...

i apologise  :-[

back to kellyb...

he was wrong to advertise his products without mentioning that he had other things to aid in his transformation

what else is there to say?

i take it you also are a libertarian...or maybe an objectivist?

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secondly, there is a universal moral code...

the philosopher Kant wrote about it:

"Act only on that maxim which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law."

this is the basis for all moral behavior

I'm really not sure what that quote means because I speak modern english, but how was universal law decided? Because the majority of society felt that way? Well, the majority of society (at least in California) thought Marijuana should stay illegal,  and the majority of society probably thinks steroids should be illegal. Does that become universal law then?
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And also NO to anyone who associates with him. No Taylor Allan. No Adam Scammenauger. No Kelly Baggett. No Elliot Hulse. No Jtrinsey. NO JUMP USA


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Lamp, go away though. Seriously. The point you are trying to make has nothing to do with kellyB using legal PEDs.

ha I realise the topic has been derailed considerably...

i apologise  :-[

back to kellyb...

he was wrong to advertise his products without mentioning that he had other things to aid in his transformation

what else is there to say?

i take it you also are a libertarian...or maybe an objectivist?

for the most part yes...

this thread really needs a post from kellyb to explain those posts about the steroids

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secondly, there is a universal moral code...

the philosopher Kant wrote about it:

"Act only on that maxim which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law."

this is the basis for all moral behavior

I'm really not sure what that quote means because I speak modern english, but how was universal law decided? Because the majority of society felt that way? Well, the majority of society (at least in California) thought Marijuana should stay illegal,  and the majority of society probably thinks steroids should be illegal. Does that become universal law then?

i would be happy to discuss this in another thread...

this thread has been derailed enough already

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secondly, there is a universal moral code...

the philosopher Kant wrote about it:

"Act only on that maxim which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law."

this is the basis for all moral behavior

I'm really not sure what that quote means because I speak modern english, but how was universal law decided? Because the majority of society felt that way? Well, the majority of society (at least in California) thought Marijuana should stay illegal,  and the majority of society probably thinks steroids should be illegal. Does that become universal law then?

i would be happy to discuss this in another thread...

this thread has been derailed enough already

Agreed
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[7:31pm] adarq: ripp, being honest, it's hard for u to beat jcsbck, he's on fire lately
[7:31pm] adarq: he's just
[7:31pm] adarq: wrecking people
[7:31pm] adarq: daily




Say NO to Maroko

And also NO to anyone who associates with him. No Taylor Allan. No Adam Scammenauger. No Kelly Baggett. No Elliot Hulse. No Jtrinsey. NO JUMP USA


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You forgot single


in b4 not a single fuck was given that day
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[7:31pm] adarq: ripp, being honest, it's hard for u to beat jcsbck, he's on fire lately
[7:31pm] adarq: he's just
[7:31pm] adarq: wrecking people
[7:31pm] adarq: daily




Say NO to Maroko

And also NO to anyone who associates with him. No Taylor Allan. No Adam Scammenauger. No Kelly Baggett. No Elliot Hulse. No Jtrinsey. NO JUMP USA


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http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/defyingthecurse.html

brb writing a book about natural muscle building yet taking every pro hormone known to man.
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[7:31pm] adarq: ripp, being honest, it's hard for u to beat jcsbck, he's on fire lately
[7:31pm] adarq: he's just
[7:31pm] adarq: wrecking people
[7:31pm] adarq: daily




Say NO to Maroko

And also NO to anyone who associates with him. No Taylor Allan. No Adam Scammenauger. No Kelly Baggett. No Elliot Hulse. No Jtrinsey. NO JUMP USA


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 Just to clear up the bullshit notion that ALL elite athetes use performance enhancing drugs mentioned earlier,

Professor Vladimir M. Zatsiorsky PhD  in Science and Practice of Strength Training, page vii

"This text is intended to be comprehensive.  However one important issue is not addressed--drug abuse.  Unfortunately, in order to become bigger and stronger, many athletes, including bodybuilders and teenagers caught up in the bodybuilding craze, use drugs, especially black -market anabolic steroids.  This practice is harmful to their health, unethical (in sport), and illegal.  The use of drugs, steroids included, is banned by the International Olympic Committee and international amateur athletic federations.  The distribution of steroids for nonmedical purposes is forbidden by law in many countries, including the United States and Canada.  THIS BOOK IS WRITTEN TO SHOW YOU HOW TO TRAIN WITHOUT DRUGS.  IT IS IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF ELITE ATHLETES HAVE NEVER USED DRUGS."

Zatsiorsky, Siff, Verkoshansky, published what is still by far  the best literature today on strength training for sport to teach athletes and coaches how to take advantage of training from a scientific standpoint, to show us how to train correctly and take advantage of the many many different tools we have at our disposal, none of which involve encouraging drug use.  Bottom line is drugs are a CHOICE, not a necessity, and there are tons more athletes and recreational bodybuilders who use drugs and arent worth a shit at anything than there are elite athletes using drugs who succeed.  Drug use is obviously an issue in elite sprinters and professional power/speed type sports, but the notion that ALL the pro or elite athletes are using p.e.d.s is retarded.   
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i respectfully disagree with your final statement

however, there is no way to prove it one way or the other and so there is no point in debating it

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i respectfully disagree with your final statement

however, there is no way to prove it one way or the other and so there is no point in debating it

that is fine man, we are all entitled to our opinions, but note that the highlighted quote was not my words, it was zatsiorsky, who has coached and worked with more elite athletes than any of us coaches combined. 
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i respectfully disagree with your final statement

however, there is no way to prove it one way or the other and so there is no point in debating it

that is fine man, we are all entitled to our opinions, but note that the highlighted quote was not my words, it was zatsiorsky, who has coached and worked with more elite athletes than any of us coaches combined.  

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