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Title: luke f****n lowery
Post by: thorton on June 07, 2010, 11:12:59 pm
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 ??? first of all. the guy looks/looked nothing like an athlete. he looks like he should be some australlian chef or something.

Some of the claims he made on his website were complete bull shit. people adding 12 inches to there vert in a month and a half? The claims he made were rediculous. Plus he used to put shit on his website like. "Some people call me god of athletic training, my work is worthy of a nobel prize" Really? And to top it all off, the asshole tried selling his program for like 400$?!? You can get a f****n puppy for $400.

He just struck me as a real asshole, and it pissed me off to no end. If you're going to scam, dont make a total douche of yourself and make claims on your website that are so far fetched.

Next thing you know hes going to come out with a program that can make your penis grow 10 inches in 2 days
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on June 07, 2010, 11:16:59 pm
he did come out with that penis growth pill, it's called adenotrex.. add 10" to your vert or so, without training, taking adenotrex!

ya man luke lowery is easy, this guy is a grade A douchebag.. his success as a douchebag scammer has motivated all these other little spin off twats.. now that this thread is created i'll take some screenshots of his site & we'll mess with him :)

i'd like to mess with the ones who give him testimonials on his site, such as the ph.d's and all these other d-bags, saying his program is revolutionary and that luke is a world class coach.. shame on them, this guy is trash.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: thorton on June 08, 2010, 10:36:21 am
he did come out with that penis growth pill, it's called adenotrex.. add 10" to your vert or so, without training, taking adenotrex!

ya man luke lowery is easy, this guy is a grade A douchebag.. his success as a douchebag scammer has motivated all these other little spin off twats.. now that this thread is created i'll take some screenshots of his site & we'll mess with him :)

i'd like to mess with the ones who give him testimonials on his site, such as the ph.d's and all these other d-bags, saying his program is revolutionary and that luke is a world class coach.. shame on them, this guy is trash.

Yea i forgot about that adenotrex. I hope nobody could actually beleive that. Unless a pill is filled with the urine of Jesus or something its not going 2 help you gain inches on your vert. But you should deff get scome screen shots so we can shit on him haha
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: AlexV on June 08, 2010, 04:48:59 pm
Now here is a guy who deserves your attention and all the douches who give testimonials.

Take down the grand dragon!
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on June 08, 2010, 07:51:38 pm
he did come out with that penis growth pill, it's called adenotrex.. add 10" to your vert or so, without training, taking adenotrex!

ya man luke lowery is easy, this guy is a grade A douchebag.. his success as a douchebag scammer has motivated all these other little spin off twats.. now that this thread is created i'll take some screenshots of his site & we'll mess with him :)

i'd like to mess with the ones who give him testimonials on his site, such as the ph.d's and all these other d-bags, saying his program is revolutionary and that luke is a world class coach.. shame on them, this guy is trash.

Yea i forgot about that adenotrex. I hope nobody could actually beleive that. Unless a pill is filled with the urine of Jesus or something its not going 2 help you gain inches on your vert. But you should deff get scome screen shots so we can shit on him haha

Eww
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: LBSS on June 08, 2010, 10:59:55 pm
And to top it all off, the asshole tried selling his program for like 400$?!? You can get a f****n puppy for $400.

LOL
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on June 08, 2010, 11:26:47 pm
And to top it all off, the asshole tried selling his program for like 400$?!? You can get a f****n puppy for $400.

LOL

lol^2

i can't really go at this guy until i get my internet back (which is in a few days) :)





i was trying to find this funny pic of him where he looks real bummish in a wife beater, but he probably took it down..

(http://www.hollywoodslimsystem.com/images/ll-3.jpg)

(http://www.vertical-project.com/images/lowrey2.jpg)

(http://www.verticaljumpreport.com/free_46-page_report/luke_custom_gtm.jpg)
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on June 09, 2010, 01:10:45 pm
(http://www.verticaljumpreport.com/free_46-page_report/luke_custom_gtm.jpg)
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http://www.lukelowrey.com/consulting.html




Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on June 09, 2010, 03:44:34 pm

http://www.lukelowrey.com/consulting.html


wow, look at those prices hahahahahaha!!!!!!




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(http://i48.tinypic.com/imtc0y.png)

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those needed to be included, absolutely amazing, what a douche.




"Luke is the only person in the world to develop and teach a mathematically and scientifically based system designed to do as much as double an athlete’s vertical leap. While he is a fully qualified fitness instructor and personal trainer, Luke largely disregards conventional institutional learning as being backward."

"As former athlete himself, Luke developed his vertical leap to an outstanding 41 inches before sustaining two non-related injuries"

lool
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on June 09, 2010, 08:10:39 pm
I wonder if people actually pay that shit, and his ridiculous ego driven first class plane ticket demands.

I personally think he just puts those there so 16 year olds see it and think he's a big deal.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on June 09, 2010, 08:32:42 pm
I wonder if people actually pay that shit, and his ridiculous ego driven first class plane ticket demands.

nah i doubt it..

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I personally think he just puts those there so 16 year olds see it and think he's a big deal.

i think you're right with this statement, it's just used to make himself look VERY important.. "hey mom look at this vert program, this guy sells training to teams for 5,000$ an hour!" etc.

his "only 10 spots" shit is kind of maroko-ish, or i mean, maroko's ten premium athletic VIP training slots is kind of lowery-ish.

Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: bball2020 on June 09, 2010, 10:46:09 pm
shit really i just forked up 20 G's for some personal consultation, so pumped im going to double my vertical jump
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: nba8340 on June 10, 2010, 01:13:59 am
ppl buy it, jus tlike those tv commercials with those dumb gadgets that are gonna get you ripped and toned and help you drop 50 lbs or whatever

my friend actuallly brought the vertical projec awhile back when it was $400, bcs he thought it was the best, why from the site as well as all the other affiliate sites that list luke's vertical project the number 1 jump program
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: thorton on June 10, 2010, 11:32:02 am
And to top it all off, the asshole tried selling his program for like 400$?!? You can get a f****n puppy for $400.

LOL

lol^2

i can't really go at this guy until i get my internet back (which is in a few days) :)





i was trying to find this funny pic of him where he looks real bummish in a wife beater, but he probably took it down..

(http://www.hollywoodslimsystem.com/images/ll-3.jpg)

(http://www.vertical-project.com/images/lowrey2.jpg)

(http://www.verticaljumpreport.com/free_46-page_report/luke_custom_gtm.jpg)

lmfao. he looks like such a douche, look at that last picture of him. he looks like that chef from Celebrity Eprentice. And i cant beleive those prices lmao, i like how this guy has just liked dissapeared too. He probably got killed
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: LBSS on June 10, 2010, 11:41:36 am
Exactly what everyone has said about him charging $5,000 for consulting services. It's just price benchmarking FTW. It's the same reason the iPhone was $600 or whatever when it first came out. Make people think it's worth that much, then drop the price to $300 and suddenly everyone is getting a great deal! 50% off holy shit!

The funny thing is, it works like a charm or you wouldn't see it in every single infomercial ever. "For a limited time, the snuggie, a $20 value, can be yours for just $12.99! What's more, if you order in the next twenty minutes, we'll throw in a second snuggie, absolutely free!"

Same principle.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on June 10, 2010, 12:39:00 pm
Exactly what everyone has said about him charging $5,000 for consulting services. It's just price benchmarking FTW. It's the same reason the iPhone was $600 or whatever when it first came out. Make people think it's worth that much, then drop the price to $300 and suddenly everyone is getting a great deal! 50% off holy shit!

The funny thing is, it works like a charm or you wouldn't see it in every single infomercial ever. "For a limited time, the snuggie, a $20 value, can be yours for just $12.99! What's more, if you order in the next twenty minutes, we'll throw in a second snuggie, absolutely free!"

Same principle.

ya for sure.. it's funny how all of those infomercials have the same exact tactics/strategies. honestly, who is dumb enough to believe that if you don't call within the next 20 minutes the offer is gone? find me this person please.. unfortunately i'm sure many exist :)

HOW CAN YOU BE THAT STUPID, WHAT'S NEXT WHAT'S NEXT WHAT'S NEXT (that guy has a great youtube).

btw, that top notch iPad piece of shit had a major security flaw and i think hundreds of thousands of them got breached.. serves em` right for "price benchmarking" (thanks for that term, will now use it often) .

imagine having bought an iPhone for $600 too.. i hope none of you did, i mean if you did that sucks for you lol.

peace
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on June 11, 2010, 05:28:14 pm
I remember how I was searching for TVP all over the internet years ago because I was wondering what it can offer.

Then a guy from a forum sent it to me... I even tried sleeping without a pillow for a few nights. Not with my window open though, so probably my money back guarantee was out.

No but really, I read some stuff about people trying to get their money back and they said there are a lot of clauses in the "contract", for example if you didn't eat whatever he (Puke Lowry) said in the program then you're not eligible for getting your money back because you didn't follow the program correctly. And the guy who was trying to get his money back was like "I was asked if I did this and that and I said "no"... so they told me I can't have my money back".

I was like "why the heck did you say "no"??????????????" ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: mattyg35 on June 11, 2010, 07:48:17 pm
If he said yes they probably would've fucked him still.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: nba8340 on June 11, 2010, 09:44:12 pm
yea luke lowrey says his 100$ thing if you don't like the program or it doesn't work for you, but in order to get anything you had to have followed the program to a T, as well as havea a journal with all the workouts and everything and i think you need a note from a doctor or something saying some shit as well
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on June 12, 2010, 06:05:27 am
yea luke lowrey says his 100$ thing if you don't like the program or it doesn't work for you, but in order to get anything you had to have followed the program to a T, as well as havea a journal with all the workouts and everything and i think you need a note from a doctor or something saying some shit as well

So?
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: nba8340 on June 12, 2010, 06:56:51 pm
so it's near impossible to get the 100$ guarantee thing he offers if the program doesn't gain you the inches he gaurantees
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on June 12, 2010, 07:15:20 pm
so it's near impossible to get the 100$ guarantee thing he offers if the program doesn't gain you the inches he gaurantees

Why? Everything you need to get your 100$ back seems easy to obtain.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: nba8340 on June 12, 2010, 07:37:44 pm
i'm sure there are a lot of other contingencies with it, you can go check it out on his site if it still exists
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on June 13, 2010, 05:39:46 am
Well there might be others, but from those that were discussed here, I see no problem.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on July 08, 2010, 11:34:48 pm
http://www.verticaljumpreport.com/customers_only/

ahahahahahahahah

listen to that shit...............................

ahahahahahahahahah

listen to it, he doesn't name jack woodrup, but it's obvious he's referring to him as his stalker....
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: zgin on July 08, 2010, 11:41:40 pm
http://www.verticaljumpreport.com/customers_only/

ahahahahahahahah

listen to that shit...............................

ahahahahahahahahah

listen to it, he doesn't name jack woodrup, but it's obvious he's referring to him as his stalker....


the great luke lowrey is aware of jwood's existence? he should be thrilled to be mentioned !!
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on July 08, 2010, 11:51:40 pm
http://www.verticaljumpreport.com/customers_only/

ahahahahahahahah

listen to that shit...............................

ahahahahahahahahah

listen to it, he doesn't name jack woodrup, but it's obvious he's referring to him as his stalker....


the great luke lowrey is aware of jwood's existence? he should be thrilled to be mentioned !!

he calls jwood his personal stalker.. luke lowrey reminds me of charlie zelenoff.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: bball2020 on July 09, 2010, 03:08:01 am
haha..do they really have a criminal case against eachother?
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on July 09, 2010, 03:31:27 am
haha..do they really have a criminal case against eachother?

not that jack is aware of... he pm'd me.. hah.

luke lowrey is such a bum.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: bball2020 on July 09, 2010, 03:33:09 am
ha..someone spend 4 dollars on this just to b able to see actually how shitty it is, and how adentrox doesnt even come in...4-6 weeks HA
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: LanceSTS on July 09, 2010, 04:29:45 am
http://www.verticaljumpreport.com/customers_only/

ahahahahahahahah

listen to that shit...............................

ahahahahahahahahah

listen to it, he doesn't name jack woodrup, but it's obvious he's referring to him as his stalker....




That was the biggest bunch of horse shit I have ever heard in my life.  He doesnt need anybodys money yet he spends 20 minutes defending himself and quoting people to try and gain validity.  haha  I cant imagine anyone over the age of 5 years old buying into his trash but obviously it happens.  Guaranteed he just got done watching some of Shawns vids on youtube and came up with that "how can you have a 50 inch vert if you cant land it" haha what a bitch.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on July 09, 2010, 05:00:22 am
http://www.verticaljumpreport.com/customers_only/

ahahahahahahahah

listen to that shit...............................

ahahahahahahahahah

listen to it, he doesn't name jack woodrup, but it's obvious he's referring to him as his stalker....




That was the biggest bunch of horse shit I have ever heard in my life.  He doesnt need anybodys money yet he spends 20 minutes defending himself and quoting people to try and gain validity.  haha  I cant imagine anyone over the age of 5 years old buying into his trash but obviously it happens.  Guaranteed he just got done watching some of Shawns vids on youtube and came up with that "how can you have a 50 inch vert if you cant land it" haha what a bitch.

ya i hope he reads this thread one day, if he does, i'd like him to know that..

HE IS A STUPID FUCKING SCAMMER PIECE OF SHIT.

:P

These are the people that take s&c and completely ruin it, leading plenty of people astray for years, over and over, until the end of time, completely wasting everyone's time and setting the s&c movement back hundreds of years. People could gain more on vert just doing yard work than listening to this trashy wannabe fuck.

I love how he makes 7 million dollars, yet he's trying to sell some stupid piece of shit program to people.. sure.. he's too stupid to even realize how fucking retarded that sounds.

I'm pretty sure when he was in australia he boxed a kangaroo and lost, so maybe he has a legitimate excuse for his ugly face and massive brain damage.

If he sold luke lowrey toilet paper, with his face on each sheet, it would sell out in minutes. Too bad he hasn't realized that yet, i'd buy that shit in a heart beat.

peace
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: LanceSTS on July 09, 2010, 05:24:59 am
 Im with you bro.  I STILL see threads some places where people talk about some of his "ideas" and it makes me want to vomit.  I dont know what else we can do to really change things since people will always have the mentality that there is some super secret out there to jump training and since he charges alot, his product must be great.  Maybe one day people will realize but he will already be out with a new gimmick by then and probably using another name in a whole new market.  I wonder if he would show up if I "booked" him for a session at my gym.  I dont care if I got sued or not it would be worth it to put it up on youtube.  Question number one, can you show me how to jump higher inside this little square thingy with ropes around it? 
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on July 09, 2010, 05:58:02 am
Im with you bro.  I STILL see threads some places where people talk about some of his "ideas" and it makes me want to vomit.  I dont know what else we can do to really change things since people will always have the mentality that there is some super secret out there to jump training and since he charges alot, his product must be great.  Maybe one day people will realize but he will already be out with a new gimmick by then and probably using another name in a whole new market.  I wonder if he would show up if I "booked" him for a session at my gym.  I dont care if I got sued or not it would be worth it to put it up on youtube. 

Yea man, I used to put blame entirely on the scammers but as of this year or so, I put half of it on the stupid as fuck sheep who lack the ability to smell shit even when it's right under their nose. Most of them grow out of it as they fail on these programs, which they then research about the program and realize they got duped.

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Question number one, can you show me how to jump higher inside this little square thingy with ropes around it? 

hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! epic.



The only way to fix the industry, in my opinion, is to make so much noise that you can't help but be heard by the entire planet.. most people sell their soul to do that, which of course doesn't help anyone.. But if someone were to take plenty of athletes from say low 30's RVJ to 45 RVJ, 11+ 100m's to low 10.x 100m's, then we'd have something to work with.. For example, if Jay Schroeder's bullshit ideology actually worked, then s&c would have really been transformed, there would not be any way around it.. if iso extremes made you bionic, and there was incredible result after incredible result (instead of all failures), then the performance envelope could actually be pushed and a wide scale acceptance of these methods would take place.

I'd say the only thing that comes close to that, at this point, is Westside method. I mean, variations of that for athletics are used in nearly every performance facility, unfortunately, most of it is for show in my opinion, with people bragging about box jump improvement instead of actual vert improvement, and somehow the system turning nearly everyone into meatheads with a strongman training obsession. I have nothing against that stuff, but when I see a speed/power athlete starting to become obsessed primarily with weightlifting PR's rather than a combination of fitness, power, speed, and lifting PR's, then something is wrong with the system. I'm not saying all gyms who incorporate a westside variant do that, but i'd say the majority do. Plus, as cool as Louie is, he talks alot of bullshit with his vert/speed numbers... every youtube vid i see him on he's talking about taking a 11s 100m russian sprinter down to 10.1 or something weird along those lines, with no names, or taking some guys vert from crap to bionic, with no names. So, even if a guy as legit as louie spits mostly good info, if he tries to sell it on a soft layer of bullshit, it ends up holding back his methods, imo. I like the guy though.

Damn i'm ranting.

So ya...

One more thing: Coaches need to be athletes. That usually pisses off plenty of people, especially coaches who aren't athletes, lol.. Sure their are great coaches who were really shitty athletes, but man, if you want to take CRAPPY athletes and make them elite, then you're going to have to be able to do the same to yourself. Any coach can train an elite athlete, i mean, as much as coaches don't want to hear it, it's the truth.. Getting them to peak properly for competitions, and giving them those all so significant yet small pr's, ya that takes some good coaching.. but keeping them at a generally high level can be done so many ways, using ineffective ideology. The true task, of real s&c coaching, is to figure out how to turn all of these slow as fuck non genetic crap athletes (such as myself and many others on these forums) and turn them into elite athletes.

s&c has not figured that out yet.. Their are outliers sure, but it just doesn't happen on a consistent basis.

You can't say to your 18 year old son: "Okay timmy, you're going into athlete improvement camp now, it's going to take 2 years and absolutely everything you got, but once those two years are over, you will be transformed, guaranteed."

So if a coach can't achieve some respectable results himself, then how will he be able to truly pass that on to future clients? I'm not dissing EVERY coach, but a majority of them. I'm not even really dissing them though, it's more of a reality check statement.

I'd like to think that these results could be achieve by pretty much ANY trainee (including coaches), lack of injuries/pathologies permitting, over the course of 3-4 years:
- 40" running vert
- 10' broad jump
- 35" standing vert
- 10.9x 100m

That's where the dilemma in s&c occurs, right there.. It just isn't happening.. we as coaches need to make it happen, not just in our facilities but also on these forums, though it is much harder :D Plenty of people on TVS and on here have been making great progress, we just need to make sure that they understand the long term training plan, so they can progress over a few years and become totally transformed. Sure many aren't interested in 100m/broad jumps, but those vert goals still are what everyone should be striving for :) I think people are really starting to get it though, the last year or so on some of these forums, I see a change.. people are sticking to the basics and looking at the big picture.

We'll see, if "our message" can't spread worldwide, at least a small portion of the world will have an edge in training.

:D

peace man
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: LanceSTS on July 09, 2010, 07:32:28 am
 Man so much of what you said has gone through my mind over and over and the part about coaches being athletes couldnt be more true.  People dont realize how important that is.  I could read a ton of aviation novels and texts, but until I actually got in a plane and actually flew the damn thing, Im not really going to know much about it.  Ive said exactly what you said during seminars before and watched coaches that werent ever athletes get so pissed they cant stand it ( one time one actually left the room and he was the one who paid for it).  All the coaches I have had that were worth anything had been former athletes.  The ones that werent seemed to have a chip on their shoulder and in a way be jealous of us even though they were the fucking coach. 

   Louie is a good dude and "his" system comes directly out of the Science and Practice of Strength Training and Supertraining.  I know you have probably read these as well and see the differences in the interpretation of what is know the wsb system and I do too.  The template is great, the exercise choices all these dumbasses keep copying are retarded as they are designed specifically for geared lifting.  Dynamic effort day could easily be depth jumps, snatches, etc. and max effort day could be a hell of alot more jumping specific lifts than shallow, legs in a full split box squats as well.  What happens like you said is, a "coach" gets a hold of a few vids and articles from wsb and thinks he found the fucking golden spoon.  Its the principles that make that type of set up work and the specifics for powerlifting are a world away from the specifics of jump training. 
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: LanceSTS on July 09, 2010, 07:46:01 am
  That being said I have talked with Louie about jump specific training and he kept refrencing how high his guys could box jump.  I let him on the fact that in college alot of our best box jumpers had some of the lowest vertical jumps on the team.  He was extremely open minded and agreed with alot of what I had to say and it made me respect him even more for it.  Basically his take on things was that strength needed to be developed as quickly as possible ie. the max and repetition effort methods, and eccentric strength as well, (had some awesome points on the kinetic energy of bands for accomodating resistance vs chains which dont provide the kinetic energy during the eccentric) and once a base of strength was developed, more specific joint angles like half squats would be incorporated.  I got into a debate with him on box squats due to the lack of work in the amortization phase and he said the stretch reflex can be maintained up to several seconds in a trained lifter.  I agreed with this as I have tested it as well, but it begins dissapating immediately once the lifter sits on the box and he agreed.  What it boiled down to was he still liked box squats, I think because he popularized them so much in the US,  and I understood that.  But he has a MASSIVE amount of knowledge, and I respect how open minded he was as my intention was to argue when I first spoke to him.  Ive never got anything out of kneeling jumps either and he felt like that was a good exercise as well so we disagreed on some things but he never once said anything I was doing wouldnt work or didnt make sense so it was hard to have a disagreement with him.  But yea he goes a little overboard sometimes, I just think it more of a pride thing and definitely not to try and scam people like some of the other guys.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on July 10, 2010, 05:54:57 am
Man so much of what you said has gone through my mind over and over and the part about coaches being athletes couldnt be more true.  People dont realize how important that is.  I could read a ton of aviation novels and texts, but until I actually got in a plane and actually flew the damn thing, Im not really going to know much about it.

ya exactly.. it's not even like coaches would have to be a power athlete, i mean they could even be an endurance athlete, bodybuilding athlete, something.. point is, alot of these people just workout-to-workout, which is ok if you want to do that but it doesn't give you that inside perspective on how to really push your body, and what is required mentally/physically to do so.. you just can't read that in a book & apply it.

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  Ive said exactly what you said during seminars before and watched coaches that werent ever athletes get so pissed they cant stand it ( one time one actually left the room and he was the one who paid for it).  All the coaches I have had that were worth anything had been former athletes.  The ones that werent seemed to have a chip on their shoulder and in a way be jealous of us even though they were the fucking coach. 

damn! in my experience, the ones who don't train usually are the "best athletes", meaning, in my own personal dealings with them, they seem to have the most impressive stats out of anyone i know, yet no one has ever seen it.. :)

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   Louie is a good dude and "his" system comes directly out of the Science and Practice of Strength Training and Supertraining.  I know you have probably read these as well and see the differences in the interpretation of what is know the wsb system and I do too.  The template is great, the exercise choices all these dumbasses keep copying are retarded as they are designed specifically for geared lifting.  Dynamic effort day could easily be depth jumps, snatches, etc. and max effort day could be a hell of alot more jumping specific lifts than shallow, legs in a full split box squats as well.  What happens like you said is, a "coach" gets a hold of a few vids and articles from wsb and thinks he found the fucking golden spoon.  Its the principles that make that type of set up work and the specifics for powerlifting are a world away from the specifics of jump training. 

ya i definitely don't mind westside when it's applied that way.

Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on July 10, 2010, 06:01:22 am
  That being said I have talked with Louie about jump specific training and he kept refrencing how high his guys could box jump.  I let him on the fact that in college alot of our best box jumpers had some of the lowest vertical jumps on the team.  He was extremely open minded and agreed with alot of what I had to say and it made me respect him even more for it.  Basically his take on things was that strength needed to be developed as quickly as possible ie. the max and repetition effort methods, and eccentric strength as well, (had some awesome points on the kinetic energy of bands for accomodating resistance vs chains which dont provide the kinetic energy during the eccentric) and once a base of strength was developed, more specific joint angles like half squats would be incorporated.  I got into a debate with him on box squats due to the lack of work in the amortization phase and he said the stretch reflex can be maintained up to several seconds in a trained lifter.  I agreed with this as I have tested it as well, but it begins dissapating immediately once the lifter sits on the box and he agreed.  What it boiled down to was he still liked box squats, I think because he popularized them so much in the US,  and I understood that.  But he has a MASSIVE amount of knowledge, and I respect how open minded he was as my intention was to argue when I first spoke to him.  Ive never got anything out of kneeling jumps either and he felt like that was a good exercise as well so we disagreed on some things but he never once said anything I was doing wouldnt work or didnt make sense so it was hard to have a disagreement with him.  But yea he goes a little overboard sometimes, I just think it more of a pride thing and definitely not to try and scam people like some of the other guys.

Yeah he's a good dude, nice feedback btw. I sometimes wonder why he gets so big on some of these damn-near gimmick lifts/exercises, such as the kneeling jumps/kneeling oly's/kneeling box jumps. I mean, much of his info is solid, but stuff like that just confuses me.. Chains/bands = legit. Box squat = legit. Box jumps = meh. Kneeling exercises = wtf?

ps: for anyone browing, luke lowrey is a scam artist compulsive lying reject :P
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: LanceSTS on July 10, 2010, 07:42:01 pm
Agreed.  I hate to see him talk about that useless shit as well because it dampens all the great info he is capable of putting out.   Lol at that last part about luke lowery!   Im still shocked a grown man would make a video like that, especially somebody with that kind of income who obviously wouldnt have time to make the video due to his extensive, million dollar an hour consulting he does :).  
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: LanceSTS on July 10, 2010, 07:53:17 pm
Haha just read the other part about the coaches that dont train with the bad ass stats that nobody ever sees! lol, my bad I forgot about that rare breed of mysterious athletes.  Very true , they are for sure the best, no questions.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on July 10, 2010, 09:05:12 pm
I remember people asking NBA Players on twitter about this guy, and nobody knew who the fuck he was.

Luke is right about a bunch of the guys online though. AlexM for one

Total and Utter Shit
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: bball2020 on July 10, 2010, 09:08:15 pm
someone should call up this patriots coach and see what lowry is talking about
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: BMully on July 10, 2010, 11:25:13 pm
my 2 cents

I got the TVP Free off of some website, the dude had the price at $200 then, was thinking about buying it legit

the program was probably the most overthoughtout 1 I have seen, the thing said no pillow, no  dair, some window plan, ur gonna need a pool, sleep with window open..ect. but I was fooled and believed most of it

the workouts though, i have to say really do seem 2 work, they were very complicated and they looked like any other vertical program that used weights...but i think it would probably only work on advanced athletes

anyway, the more i learn, the more i know this is a piece of garbage crap shit program
scam artist with the price, a strength and conditioning coach can come up with same shit and probably cost u $30
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: LanceSTS on July 20, 2010, 02:27:08 am


    http://vertfreak101.com/training/showthread.php?532-The-Luke-Lowrey-Scam


    http://vertfreak101.com/training/showthread.php?533-The-Vertical-Project-scam-by-Luke-Lowrey


  Thanks Andrew.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on July 20, 2010, 05:13:15 am


    http://vertfreak101.com/training/showthread.php?532-The-Luke-Lowrey-Scam


    http://vertfreak101.com/training/showthread.php?533-The-Vertical-Project-scam-by-Luke-Lowrey


  Thanks Andrew.

np mang, those people are idiots.. it's almost as if they lack a high school education, they are so predictable.

"hm, i'll come on as two different people to promote myself/lowery, from the same ip, and act like two different people, but when i get caught, i'll say i'm the same person, GENIUS!!!!!"

rahtardz.

someone said something nice in that thread, about lowery "feeling like his time is running out".. i mean, i doubt he really feels that way BUT I can see how he'd be worried that he's losing plenty of potential clients because of people calling him out, such as jackw, us, pretty much everyone on any respectable vert/performance forum, etc.. He relies (as do most scammers) on a new batch of gullible yuppies every year, the 14-15 year old crowd.. it's easy to get one over on them and their parents, because parents will do alot for their kids.. what a bunch of snakes.

peace
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: ghettoracer on September 13, 2010, 11:40:23 am
i got linked into his verticaljumpingreport website and watched his pitch.  at the time i had no idea who he is.  20 seconds into the video i was in serious pain but let me see if this fool has something decent.  he takes like 5 mins just to state that training proggies needs to be customized.  NO DUH.  fucking asshole, mumbles a bunch of BS just to say that?  CLOSE WINDOW.  then i came here to see if he's listed in this section.  sure enough he is.

his pitch sucks major ass.  shits like:

"  Day-In-Person:   One Day Athletic Performance Make-Over Visits

Day-In-Person consultations will revolutionize the way your athletes, train, recover, eat, sleep, live, perform... and win games.

For a single day, Luke will investigate and upturn your organization from head to toe, ensuring that your athletes have the very best.  This is an organic approach to implementing the kind of changes that are necessary for dramatically enhancing your athletes performance and, best of all, Luke will take you through it all himself.

Receive all Day-In-Person Consultation Packages Half Price when you join PrivatePro

PRICING: $5,000 per hour, min. 4-hour blocks

TERMS: Must be booked and paid, 30 days prior"

omg wtf.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on September 13, 2010, 12:01:33 pm
i got linked into his verticaljumpingreport website and watched his pitch.  at the time i had no idea who he is.  20 seconds into the video i was in serious pain but let me see if this fool has something decent.  he takes like 5 mins just to state that training proggies needs to be customized.  NO DUH.  fucking asshole, mumbles a bunch of BS just to say that?  CLOSE WINDOW.  then i came here to see if he's listed in this section.  sure enough he is.

his pitch sucks major ass.  shits like:

"  Day-In-Person:   One Day Athletic Performance Make-Over Visits

Day-In-Person consultations will revolutionize the way your athletes, train, recover, eat, sleep, live, perform... and win games.

For a single day, Luke will investigate and upturn your organization from head to toe, ensuring that your athletes have the very best.  This is an organic approach to implementing the kind of changes that are necessary for dramatically enhancing your athletes performance and, best of all, Luke will take you through it all himself.

Receive all Day-In-Person Consultation Packages Half Price when you join PrivatePro

PRICING: $5,000 per hour, min. 4-hour blocks

TERMS: Must be booked and paid, 30 days prior"

omg wtf.

people/institutions have actually been suckered into paying that shit though, i'm certain of it.. can you believe that shit? hahahahah

luke lowery is such a bum fraud loser.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on September 13, 2010, 03:24:30 pm
He's a winner. A money winner. He doesn't force you to do that. You are doing it because you choose to do it.

If I ask you to give me 10.000$ to talk to me for 5 minutes, it's up to you to decide if it's worth it. So don't blame it all on him. But this is usual marketing strategy... overprice something so that the client thinks "hey, it's gotta worth it, it's so expensive so it must be top of the notch".
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: BMully on September 13, 2010, 10:55:51 pm
luke lowery selling his shit is almost as bad as a holocaust..both should be punishable by death and destroy millions of dreams
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: ARowe on October 20, 2010, 01:20:40 pm
http://thetruthaboutsupplements.com/?hop=wikid009 (http://thetruthaboutsupplements.com/?hop=wikid009)



Luke???

lulz
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on October 20, 2010, 01:35:30 pm
http://thetruthaboutsupplements.com/?hop=wikid009 (http://thetruthaboutsupplements.com/?hop=wikid009)



Luke???

lulz

Strong knowledge of Australian accents...






























































It is Luke
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: JackW on October 20, 2010, 07:19:30 pm
Are you saying Luke Lowery is also Mark Ottobre?
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on October 20, 2010, 08:06:18 pm
Are you saying Luke Lowery is also Mark Ottobre?

Pretty sure he was making fun how all australians sound the same (to americans)
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: BMully on October 20, 2010, 08:18:22 pm
luke lowery is a legend in the field of vertical jumping, a legend that is  as the biggest asshole ever
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on October 21, 2010, 05:37:52 am
Is he deep?
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: XxZxX on November 16, 2010, 09:42:43 pm
hello, new to these forums here and I definitely hate scammer.

I had the ultimate proof that Luke Lowery is a scammer alright.

Just check out his business ethnic and performance rated by Better Business Bureau.

http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Report/Luke-Lowrey-The-Vertical-Project-100047856

Yup a F.

and here's what better business bureau has to say about his company

Quote
We strongly question the company’s reliability for reasons such as that they have failed to respond to complaints, their advertising is grossly misleading, they are not in compliance with the law’s licensing or registration requirements, their complaints contain especially serious allegations, or the company’s industry is known for its fraudulent business practices.

Anybody that defending Luke Lowrey is either be a fraud themselves or need to get their head check.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on November 16, 2010, 09:53:10 pm
hello, new to these forums here and I definitely hate scammer.

I had the ultimate proof that Luke Lowery is a scammer alright.

Just check out his business ethnic and performance rated by Better Business Bureau.

http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Report/Luke-Lowrey-The-Vertical-Project-100047856

Yup a F.

and here's what better business bureau has to say about his company

Quote
We strongly question the company’s reliability for reasons such as that they have failed to respond to complaints, their advertising is grossly misleading, they are not in compliance with the law’s licensing or registration requirements, their complaints contain especially serious allegations, or the company’s industry is known for its fraudulent business practices.

Anybody that defending Luke Lowrey is either be a fraud themselves or need to get their head check.


haha, nice post.. never thought to look there.

http://www.trustlink.org/Reviews/Luke-Lowrey-The-Vertical-Project-205946035

complaints ^^




Quote
DO NOT PURCHASE ANYTHING FROM THIS COMPANY. I thought i was getting a jump program for the discounted price of 36.99. I did get the program (which really is nothing special) What I didn't know was that hidden in the fine print of 43 pages was a mention of re-occuring billing for 179.85 every three months. They give you the "Lowrey Inner Circle coaching" for one month free then after 30 days you will get a charge for 179.85 on your account.

man that is so messed up.. luke is a straight up bitch.



(http://imgur.com/T2iS9.png)

(http://imgur.com/cGXMa.png)

(http://imgur.com/fY0ll.png)

Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on November 17, 2010, 04:35:58 am
I wonder how much money did Lowery made out of TVP. Interestingly enough, I have TVP. I worked so hard to find it because nobody had it, but finally someone gave it to me. It talks about so many "cool" things like pool work and the fact that you must not squat heavy.

I once had an argument with a guy who was saying "hey, I listened to Lowery and I jump 4 inches higher" and I was giving him reasons why Lowery's method is wrong etc and he wouldn't listen. And then, after like half a year, he was "you know what... you were right..." I was like "Well duuuuhhhhhh...".

It also talks about how you need to sleep exactly 8 and 3/4 hours per days because "that's the optimum sleeping time" and to sleep without a pillow with the window half-open so you have better oxigene levels. This from what I can remember. I'm sure I can find more gems like these.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: aiir on November 17, 2010, 10:00:25 pm
I wonder how much money did Lowery made out of TVP. Interestingly enough, I have TVP. I worked so hard to find it because nobody had it, but finally someone gave it to me. It talks about so many "cool" things like pool work and the fact that you must not squat heavy.

I once had an argument with a guy who was saying "hey, I listened to Lowery and I jump 4 inches higher" and I was giving him reasons why Lowery's method is wrong etc and he wouldn't listen. And then, after like half a year, he was "you know what... you were right..." I was like "Well duuuuhhhhhh...".

It also talks about how you need to sleep exactly 8 and 3/4 hours per days because "that's the optimum sleeping time" and to sleep without a pillow with the window half-open so you have better oxigene levels. This from what I can remember. I'm sure I can find more gems like these.
The program is VERY well worded and set up- makes you wanna do it immediately...but in reality its bs
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on November 18, 2010, 01:01:29 pm
I wonder how much money did Lowery made out of TVP. Interestingly enough, I have TVP. I worked so hard to find it because nobody had it, but finally someone gave it to me. It talks about so many "cool" things like pool work and the fact that you must not squat heavy.

I once had an argument with a guy who was saying "hey, I listened to Lowery and I jump 4 inches higher" and I was giving him reasons why Lowery's method is wrong etc and he wouldn't listen. And then, after like half a year, he was "you know what... you were right..." I was like "Well duuuuhhhhhh...".

It also talks about how you need to sleep exactly 8 and 3/4 hours per days because "that's the optimum sleeping time" and to sleep without a pillow with the window half-open so you have better oxigene levels. This from what I can remember. I'm sure I can find more gems like these.

Milk is toxic
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on November 18, 2010, 04:23:32 pm
Oh yeah I remember that. He said that milk should be used in your growing days as an infant, and then ditched. That's the reason, according to him, that you develop milk intolerance (lactose intolerance). So once you're in puberty you should stop drinking milk.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: XxZxX on November 19, 2010, 03:34:53 pm
Oh yeah I remember that. He said that milk should be used in your growing days as an infant, and then ditched. That's the reason, according to him, that you develop milk intolerance (lactose intolerance). So once you're in puberty you should stop drinking milk.

that is completely bullshit, i took 4 class of nutrition class in college, almost minor in it and I can tell you this.  Lactose intolerance is varies from people.  The reason people can be lactose intolerance because the amount of lactase produced by your intestine may not be enough to break down the lactose that contain in milk.  But some people doesn't really have lactese deficiency. To ask people to give up the milks that are excellent source of calcium and protein which also very vital to athlete is utterly bullshit.  At least get yourself tested before giving it up. If you don't have a bloating, diarrhea symptoms, you are probably fine with milk.

Again Stupid F****n Luke.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on November 19, 2010, 03:47:14 pm
Oh yeah I remember that. He said that milk should be used in your growing days as an infant, and then ditched. That's the reason, according to him, that you develop milk intolerance (lactose intolerance). So once you're in puberty you should stop drinking milk.

that is completely bullshit, i took 4 class of nutrition class in college, almost minor in it and I can tell you this.  Lactose intolerance is varies from people.  The reason people can be lactose intolerance because the amount of lactase produced by your intestine may not be enough to break down the lactose that contain in milk.  But some people doesn't really have lactese deficiency. To ask people to give up the milks that are excellent source of calcium and protein which also very vital to athlete is utterly bullshit.  At least get yourself tested before giving it up. If you don't have a bloating, diarrhea symptoms, you are probably fine with milk.

Again Stupid F****n Luke.

i have an irish/french background, pretty much anyone in my family can drink tons of milk.. i've drank a gallon a day for months at a time, felt fine, got really strong but put on fat (just high kcal of course).. right now i drink abotu a half gallon a day.. i don't know what i would do without milk, i feel so much weaker without it.

pc
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: XxZxX on November 19, 2010, 04:08:38 pm
i have an irish/french background, pretty much anyone in my family can drink tons of milk.. i've drank a gallon a day for months at a time, felt fine, got really strong but put on fat (just high kcal of course).. right now i drink abotu a half gallon a day.. i don't know what i would do without milk, i feel so much weaker without it.

pc

Wow dude, half gallon means 8 serving per day.  That's a lot of milk you put in there.  You probably get 64g of protein just from the milk itself.  If anything you are more likely addicted to milk. LOL and Yeah milk are as good as Gatorade ob work out drink because it has electrolytes properties as well due to good source of sodium, potassium and magnesium.  The simple carbohydrates to provide easy digest energy and protein to help recovery.  So for people that are lactose intolerance like me, I would recommend lactose free milk like Lactaid.  Milks are just too good to give up. 

Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on November 19, 2010, 04:17:34 pm
Oh yeah I remember that. He said that milk should be used in your growing days as an infant, and then ditched. That's the reason, according to him, that you develop milk intolerance (lactose intolerance). So once you're in puberty you should stop drinking milk.

that is completely bullshit, i took 4 class of nutrition class in college, almost minor in it and I can tell you this.  Lactose intolerance is varies from people.  The reason people can be lactose intolerance because the amount of lactase produced by your intestine may not be enough to break down the lactose that contain in milk.  But some people doesn't really have lactese deficiency. To ask people to give up the milks that are excellent source of calcium and protein which also very vital to athlete is utterly bullshit.  At least get yourself tested before giving it up. If you don't have a bloating, diarrhea symptoms, you are probably fine with milk.

Again Stupid F****n Luke.

Oh yeah, I know all that. But hey, quoting Luke makes me feel so good.

I wonder if I drink powder milk if I'd have intolerance, since I don't think it has lactose in it.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: XxZxX on November 19, 2010, 05:11:34 pm


Oh yeah, I know all that. But hey, quoting Luke makes me feel so good.

I wonder if I drink powder milk if I'd have intolerance, since I don't think it has lactose in it.

Powder milk still have lactose in it,  only choice for lactose free milk, like lactaid, lactese tablet like lactaid fast act tablet.  Also don't worry if you have mild symptoms such as gas( who don't). There are degree of severity depends on amount of  the lactese your body produce.

Btw I love how we spin this thread from luke lowery to milk. So to keep it true to this thread. F Luke for ruining people life with nonsense.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on November 19, 2010, 06:10:44 pm
Who's Luke?
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: XxZxX on November 19, 2010, 06:20:40 pm
Who's Luke?

Definitely not Darth Vader's son
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Cloud3205 on April 19, 2011, 09:38:11 pm
[NEW VIDEO] 40-inch vert... in just 12 WORK-OUTS.?

This is VERY URGENT:
http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=KTRtl&m=1aI8hdDTApTMwX&b=CEK9iHi9w.wVPgfHRA9tRQ
 
You will MISS OUT if you don't
do this now.
 
Go watch before tomorrow:
http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=KTRtl&m=1aI8hdDTApTMwX&b=CEK9iHi9w.wVPgfHRA9tRQ
 
 
Speak soon,
 
Luke
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Samwell on April 20, 2011, 01:04:55 am
[NEW VIDEO] 40-inch vert... in just 12 WORK-OUTS.?

This is VERY URGENT:
http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=KTRtl&m=1aI8hdDTApTMwX&b=CEK9iHi9w.wVPgfHRA9tRQ
 
You will MISS OUT if you don't
do this now.
 
Go watch before tomorrow:
http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=KTRtl&m=1aI8hdDTApTMwX&b=CEK9iHi9w.wVPgfHRA9tRQ
 
 
Speak soon,
 
Luke

omg this guy is a pure con artist biggest blow ass ever this shit just pisses me off seriously what a fucking wanker
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: swans05 on April 20, 2011, 07:37:33 am
i'm still interested in how he will explain this though but i doubt whether i'll be awake whenever the call goes live considering i'm in melbourne and he's in la (apparently)

Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on April 20, 2011, 11:04:10 pm
[NEW VIDEO] 40-inch vert... in just 12 WORK-OUTS.?

This is VERY URGENT:
http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=KTRtl&m=1aI8hdDTApTMwX&b=CEK9iHi9w.wVPgfHRA9tRQ
 
You will MISS OUT if you don't
do this now.
 
Go watch before tomorrow:
http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=KTRtl&m=1aI8hdDTApTMwX&b=CEK9iHi9w.wVPgfHRA9tRQ
 
 
Speak soon,
 
Luke

omg this guy is a pure con artist biggest blow ass ever this shit just pisses me off seriously what a fucking wanker

i couldnt listen to that whole thing, man.. i can't listen to maroko/allan/luke etc, their voices/the way they talk drive me insane.. scam talk drives me insane.

lmao @ him claiming to have trained t-dub.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: KokoyPinoy on April 20, 2011, 11:28:49 pm
Fcuk Luke Lowery.

 God please send him to hell. NOW. Please?
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on April 21, 2011, 04:08:30 am
He'd need a pretty big VJ to reach there. Or depth jump? Oh well...
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on April 21, 2011, 09:47:41 am
So what were the 3 exercises he was suggesting?. Does anyone know?.

Also a big hint of not overtraining which is all good.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: adarqui on April 21, 2011, 12:26:38 pm
So what were the 3 exercises he was suggesting?. Does anyone know?.

Also a big hint of not overtraining which is all good.

someone on irc mentioned, but i forget, all i remember is low squat hops in jump soles.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on April 21, 2011, 02:12:04 pm
What, Puke? He was suggesting, at least for one-leg jumps, the one-leg two hands holding a basketball/med ball hyperextension. Not too bad to be honest, the problem was that he said the reverse hyperextension (note - reverse) is training the body differently than what's happening in a one-leg jump so he dumped that exercise out of the window. He said that the electrical impulses are different (science says, according to him) and "bad" in a reverse hyperextension.

But then again, he's the one who said never to train with heavy squats, only with explosive squats (30-50% 1RM).
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on April 21, 2011, 02:58:20 pm
So med ball hyperextension's (Andrew is gonna be buzzin'), 1-legged back extensions, explosive squats (30-50% 1RM), low squat hops in jump soles & 1-legged jump stuff.

"  Day-In-Person:   One Day Athletic Performance Make-Over Visits

Day-In-Person consultations will revolutionize the way your athletes, train, recover, eat, sleep, live, perform... and win games.


Receive all Day-In-Person Consultation Packages Half Price when you join PrivatePro

PRICING: $5,000 per hour, min. 4-hour blocks

TERMS: Must be booked and paid, 30 days prior"

omg wtf.

$5,000 per hour?. Who the fuk can afford that.

WTF is he going to reveal for that price we don't already know?.







Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on April 21, 2011, 03:05:00 pm
He supposedly sees the one legged back extension as the main core exercise, one the best exercises for vertical jump.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOmbEOfZt-I



Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on April 21, 2011, 03:09:17 pm
So med ball hyperextension's (Andrew is gonna be buzzin'), 1-legged back extensions, explosive squats (30-50% 1RM), low squat hops in jump soles & 1-legged jump stuff.

"  Day-In-Person:   One Day Athletic Performance Make-Over Visits

Day-In-Person consultations will revolutionize the way your athletes, train, recover, eat, sleep, live, perform... and win games.


Receive all Day-In-Person Consultation Packages Half Price when you join PrivatePro

PRICING: $5,000 per hour, min. 4-hour blocks

TERMS: Must be booked and paid, 30 days prior"

omg wtf.

$5,000 per hour?. Who the fuk can afford that.

WTF is he going to reveal for that price we don't already know?.









Nah, that's just his way of saying "hey, I'm an expert, see how much I charge? You better buy my 10 times cheaper program of 500$ while it's still available".
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: swans05 on April 21, 2011, 09:56:28 pm
loved how he goes on and on for 90mins then he can't give out the upn figures because he sold the system

i better sign up and by in then hey

oh and i better get some jump soles too which i'm sure he gets a cut of

all up he's just rehashing what he's always offered for a different price including the same dodgy mullet

i can post the program if anyone cares

Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on April 22, 2011, 10:25:35 am
I can post the program if anyone cares.

This knowledge whore certainly does Swan.

"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own."
 — Bruce Lee


We have to hear everybody out, that is how we advance.



Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Dreyth on April 22, 2011, 12:59:26 pm
loved how he goes on and on for 90mins then he can't give out the upn figures because he sold the system

i better sign up and by in then hey

oh and i better get some jump soles too which i'm sure he gets a cut of

all up he's just rehashing what he's always offered for a different price including the same dodgy mullet

i can post the program if anyone cares



hell yea PM me that crap! i'm very curious.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: mod92 on April 23, 2011, 12:10:28 pm
So what were the 3 exercises he was suggesting?. Does anyone know?.

Also a big hint of not overtraining which is all good.

i listened to the bullshit call.the exercises where 1.weighted depth drops from desired vertical 2.regular depth drops 3.single leg hypers and 4.super hops?? he was just trying to sell us something as usual.his new website is getverticalnow.com.fuck him
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: andyhug on April 23, 2011, 01:12:52 pm
He mentioned if you have a 24 inch vert, and want to reach 40 inch vert. You should drop and land from that height.
Heavy squatting and plyos won't get as much results. You do not want to get big muscles. You want to train the neurological capacity or nervous system. Box squat 30% only.
Preparation day - Day 1 - rest - pnf stretching x 3/day lower back, glutes, hip flexors, groin, hamstrings, quads, calves, Tibialis
The Workout - Day 2
Day 3 - Same as Day 1
NO physical activity at all in day 1 or 3. If necessary, only 10 mins of ball handling.
4 weeks on - 1 week in pool. (water at chest level, doing plyos in pool, bounding, max jump in place for height etc...)
3 CYCLES X 5 WEEKS = 15 WEEKS
Strictly for intermediates and advanced. NO beginners!
THE WORKOUT: Warm up - must break sweat
             MAXIMAL INTENSITY - 3 sets of 1 rep @ from desired vertical jump height
             Set 1 : B/W only (rest 180s)
             Set 2 : B/W + 5% (rest 270s)
             Set 3 : B/W + 10% (rest 400s)
Optimal intensity
3 sets of 5 @ VJH + (x)
Set 1 : B/W Only (VJH + 2)
set 2 : B/W only (VJH + 4)
Set 3 : B/W Only (VJH + 6)

Single Leg Hypers - according to UPN (stop when noticed not as explosive)
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on April 23, 2011, 03:39:37 pm
i listened to the bullshit call.the exercises where 1.weighted depth drops from desired vertical 2.regular depth drops 3.single leg hypers and 4.super hops?? he was just trying to sell us something as usual.his new website is getverticalnow.com.


He mentioned if you have a 24 inch vert, and want to reach 40 inch vert. You should drop and land from that height.
Heavy squatting and plyos won't get as much results. You do not want to get big muscles. You want to train the neurological capacity or nervous system. Box squat 30% only.
Preparation day - Day 1 - rest - pnf stretching x 3/day lower back, glutes, hip flexors, groin, hamstrings, quads, calves, Tibialis
The Workout - Day 2
Day 3 - Same as Day 1
NO physical activity at all in day 1 or 3. If necessary, only 10 mins of ball handling.
4 weeks on - 1 week in pool. (water at chest level, doing plyos in pool, bounding, max jump in place for height etc...)
3 CYCLES X 5 WEEKS = 15 WEEKS
THE WORKOUT: Warm up - must break sweat
             MAXIMAL INTENSITY - 3 sets of 1 rep @ from desired vertical jump height
             Set 1 : B/W only (rest 180s)
             Set 2 : B/W + 5% (rest 270s)
             Set 3 : B/W + 10% (rest 400s)
Optimal intensity
3 sets of 5 @ VJH + (x)
Set 1 : B/W Only (VJH + 2)
set 2 : B/W only (VJH + 4)
Set 3 : B/W Only (VJH + 6)

Single Leg Hypers - according to UPN (stop when noticed not as explosive)


Appreciated guys.  :headbang:
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on April 23, 2011, 03:58:48 pm
I listened to the bullshit call.the exercises where 1.weighted depth drops from desired vertical 2.regular depth drops 3.single leg hypers and 4.super hops?? he was just trying to sell us something as usual.his new website is getverticalnow.com.fuck him

What are super hops?.

Are they just like squat hops from the Air alert program?.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on April 23, 2011, 05:32:57 pm
Quick question: I assume the title is "like fucking lowery", right? ;D
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on April 23, 2011, 05:38:27 pm
I listened to the bullshit call.the exercises where 1.weighted depth drops from desired vertical 2.regular depth drops 3.single leg hypers and 4.super hops?? he was just trying to sell us something as usual.his new website is getverticalnow.com.fuck him

What are super hops?.

Are they just like squat hops from the Air alert program?.

No. they are ankle hops wearing jumpsoles and ankle weights
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: swans05 on April 23, 2011, 08:25:49 pm
that's it

if this even works then you'd need a pretty good strength base behind you cos if you don't then you won't be able to land the high depth jump

the optimal intensity is vj + 2"/4"/6" for cycle 1, + 4"/6"/8" for cycle 2 and 6"/8"/10" for cycle 3

i'm not sure how he can use a style of auto regulation (upn) but pre determine what you do each day? that makes no sense

be sure that this is all you'd do lower body wise so the 4 days after the 4 day window is where you play, practice etc as well as upper body work

if i am even to try this it definitely won't be til i get to my 2 x bw back squat and i'll also use some STIM stuff during those 4 days
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: andyhug on September 13, 2011, 06:25:40 am
http://www.theverticalproject.com/mc/day_6_lowrey_v_siegel1.html

This interview is quite good and funny.

I doubt the testimonials are real here. http://www.theverticalproject.com/mc/day_5_50-inch_1.html why would a fitness model give a vertical jump testimonial  ?
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 13, 2011, 07:23:10 am
It seems Luke Lowery is still out there but now it is all a big bulk sale.
www.theverticalproject.com

Look what is written

Quote
Luke Lowrey's accidental discovery of a mathematical set-and-rep formula for easily increasing anyone's vertical jump has been hailed as: "the greatest advance in vertical jumping technology"; "the defining point between performance enhancement of yesterday and performance enhancement of tomorrow", and even... "worthy of a Nobel prize".

hahahahahahhaaa lmfao rofl  :P  :rant:  :pissed:

We should file a complaint against him in court and sue for all he is worth.

As one of the posts stated that there is doubts about its reliability and misleading advertising.

atleast the advert is just reduced to 1 page unlike the 5 page of junk fake testimonial.

Quote
Advertising must tell the truth and not mislead consumers.
In addition, claims must be substantiated.
GENERAL OFFERS AND CLAIMS
PRODUCTS AND SERVICES

The Federal Trade Commission Act allows the FTC to act in the interest of all consumers to prevent deceptive and unfair acts or practices. In interpreting Section 5 of the Act, the Commission has determined that a representation, omission or practice is deceptive if it is likely to:

    mislead consumers and
    affect consumers' behavior or decisions about the product or service.

In addition, an act or practice is unfair if the injury it causes, or is likely to cause, is:

    substantial
    not outweighed by other benefits and
    not reasonably avoidable.

The FTC Act prohibits unfair or deceptive advertising in any medium. That is, advertising must tell the truth and not mislead consumers. A claim can be misleading if relevant information is left out or if the claim implies something that's not true. For example, a lease advertisement for an automobile that promotes "$0 Down" may be misleading if significant and undisclosed charges are due at lease signing.

In addition, claims must be substantiated, especially when they concern health, safety, or performance. The type of evidence may depend on the product, the claims, and what experts believe necessary. If your ad specifies a certain level of support for a claim - "tests show X" - you must have at least that level of support.

Sellers are responsible for claims they make about their products and services. Third parties - such as advertising agencies or website designers and catalog marketers - also may be liable for making or disseminating deceptive representations if they participate in the preparation or distribution of the advertising, or know about the deceptive claims.

    Advertising agencies or website designers are responsible for reviewing the information used to substantiate ad claims. They may not simply rely on an advertiser's assurance that the claims are substantiated. In determining whether an ad agency should be held liable, the FTC looks at the extent of the agency's participation in the preparation of the challenged ad, and whether the agency knew or should have known that the ad included false or deceptive claims.

    To protect themselves, catalog marketers should ask for material to back up claims rather than repeat what the manufacturer says about the product. If the manufacturer doesn't come forward with proof or turns over proof that looks questionable, the catalog marketer should see a yellow "caution light" and proceed appropriately, especially when it comes to extravagant performance claims, health or weight loss promises, or earnings guarantees. In writing ad copy, catalogers should stick to claims that can be supported. Most important, catalog marketers should trust their instincts when a product sounds too good to be true.
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus28-advertising-and-marketing-internet-rules-road

Lets do it.

im guessing he has been here and is changing tactics.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on September 13, 2011, 10:21:43 pm
Can't sue when he did no damages to you personally, but the FTC can get involved.

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Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 14, 2011, 09:19:30 am
but you can sue if the advertising he does is misleading or is not substantiated (i.e. proven to be true)
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on September 14, 2011, 02:34:49 pm
No you can't. Why would you get money when he did 0 harm to you? You can't make it a job looking around for false advertisers and suing them.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 15, 2011, 04:48:34 am
But he made you pay for something which he claims it works but doesn't now you wasted your money. its like someone advertising a multi-functioning gadget which can do 11 things all from this one thing but when you buy it you can probably just do 3 the rest were just hyps/gimmicks, can't you sue this person for false advertising. its probably different the legislations in the US.

So if the FTC were to get involved don't the people who were victims of their misleading adverts get any sort of compensation?
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: JelloPuddinPup on September 15, 2011, 12:58:32 pm
But he made you pay for something which he claims it works but doesn't now you wasted your money. its like someone advertising a multi-functioning gadget which can do 11 things all from this one thing but when you buy it you can probably just do 3 the rest were just hyps/gimmicks, can't you sue this person for false advertising. its probably different the legislations in the US.

So if the FTC were to get involved don't the people who were victims of their misleading adverts get any sort of compensation?

How did he -make- you pay for it?
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 16, 2011, 06:17:31 am
by saying this thing can do all these things, and you are interested? ok so he doesn't make you pay he fools us in thinking it does something when it doesn't.

never mind.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Mutumbo000 on October 22, 2011, 02:29:25 am
Luke Lowrey the self promoting prophet of the Vertical Leap Project. Here are a few facts about Luke Lowrey.
* He sat on the bench for Bulleen ABA
* Never played any minutes or even suited up for the Victorian Titans.
* Never approached by any college or NBA team (my god what a lot of shit)
* His qualifications in any fitness area is a gym instructor
* He has never had any previous or further studies in human performance
* Any trainer who works with atheltes is happy to name them as it gives them credibility
* He moved to the USA and created this world of lies so as to sell a product based on his bull shit
Are his programs a scam? I've never given them the time of day, however everything else Luke has created about himself is BS so we'll let you guys be the judge...
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: swans05 on December 15, 2011, 07:31:03 pm
it seems he's pushing work from home shit now:


Yesterday, in Part 1...

I told you I was blown away when
everyone who wrote back to me
told me their BIGGEST PROBLEM
was a little thing called...

>> MONEY

Not lack of vertical jump.

Lack of cashola.

So...

After yesterday's email, I got a
call from the owners of this new
company... and they are excited
to share their new website with
you.

You'll love it, because...

I know these guys already have
hundreds of people making at
least $1k-$2k extra every week.

Some are making $15k-$20k every
week.

And some have made over $100k...

Just by logging onto their
little website.

If getting money... and making it
consistently... is a problem for
you then this could be your BIG
solution of 2012.

Like I said, I was a consultant to
help these guys set up their plan...
so they are getting you special
access to their progam as a
personal favor to me.

You're getting a side-door deal.

It's all online, so you can do it
from your computer.

You'll be able to login in and
view their presentation and then
get started!

More on that tomorrow...


-------------------
BACK AT THE RANCH:
-------------------

The $200 Discount on the SquatFlex
is SOLD OUT.

Response has been overwhelming.

You can check the waiting list here:
http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1035124464&msgid=1984095&act=50CA&c=401098&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jumpusa.com%2Fmm5%2Fmerchant.mvc%3FScreen%3DPROD%26Store_Code%3DJ%26Product_Code%3DSQUATFLEXL%26Attributes%3DYes%26Quantity%3D1%26Affiliate%3Djumpusa

You can try clicking their "Add
to Cart" button... but if it's sold out,
you will get an error message.

From what I'm told, they are
SOLD OUT, but the link is still up.

CHECK NOW:
http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1035124464&msgid=1984095&act=50CA&c=401098&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jumpusa.com%2Fmm5%2Fmerchant.mvc%3FScreen%3DPROD%26Store_Code%3DJ%26Product_Code%3DSQUATFLEXL%26Attributes%3DYes%26Quantity%3D1%26Affiliate%3Djumpusa


-------------

In the meantime, watch out tomorrow
for that special presentation.

I'm not a guy that talks about
money or doing biz on the internet,
but obviously, I've done very well
at it... and know lots of people
who are EXTREMELY successful.

And I mean extreme.

So, if it interests you (and I
know for a lot of you, it will),
then check it out tomorrow
in Part 3.

Look out for Part 3 then!


Speak to you then,

- Luke


P.S. UNDERSTAND THIS:

I won't be emailing about the
"money" topic again.

It will only be one time.

But trust me -- if you miss
tomorrow presentation, you
will be kicking yourself.

I've never seen so many people
make so much... in such a
short time.

You know how it is:

Young athletes need to find a
way to support their dream.

Older people need to find a
way to support their family.

And others... just wanna have
fun and get it good!

If either of those sound like
you... and if you always feel
like you never quite "have
enough"...

... then I advise you watch it.

Check back for my email then.

This message was sent to lange_troy@hotmail.com from:
Luke Lowrey | 9701 Wilshire Blvd, 10th Floor | Beverly Hills, CA 90212
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on December 15, 2011, 07:39:45 pm
Quote
The $200 Discount on the SquatFlex
is SOLD OUT.

(http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/273876_o.gif)
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: loe-vill on December 25, 2011, 10:55:26 am
Quote
The $200 Discount on the SquatFlex
is SOLD OUT.

(http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/273876_o.gif)
LOL yo i remember signing up for his newsletter when i was like 15 and just saying this is bull after about a mounth and sent every email to my junk list did he ever try signing up on here and defending him self? or any other jump sites
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on December 25, 2011, 03:55:03 pm
Attempting to defend himself would only make it worse.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: loe-vill on December 25, 2011, 09:27:50 pm
lol yeah we got alot on him just here you search his name and its littered with scam
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: JackW on January 23, 2012, 07:05:15 am
This guy is a marketing genius. Seriously. He recently sent out a video offering up the chance to win his old Ferrari but first you have to pay him $9.95 to keep using your copy of Double YouR Vertical Leap that you originally paid whatever for (inlcuding the secret monthly coaching rip off fees), and then you will be required to pay him another $200 to enter his Ferrari competition.

I have never seen anyone come up with so many dodgy ways of scamming money off people. I am actually staggered by the gall of the guy.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: andyhug on January 24, 2012, 09:33:01 am
This guy is mad. Last time the $1000 dollar prize for top testimonial, and now the ferrari. I couldn't give a shit if my dyvl is disabled. It puts free lifetime upgrades in it, and now wants $9.95
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on January 24, 2012, 11:27:53 am
I kind of admire him. He's a genius. A shitty "coach", but a genius.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on January 24, 2012, 05:43:45 pm
I kind of admire him. He's a genius. A shitty "coach", but a genius.

Scamming people is not that hard in my opinion, so "genius" is out of order here.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: TheSituation on January 24, 2012, 06:25:23 pm
I kind of admire him. He's a genius. A shitty "coach", but a genius.

Scamming people is not that hard in my opinion, so "genius" is out of order here.

Scamming people for almost a decade takes skill
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: JackW on January 29, 2012, 08:59:55 pm
Just when you thought it couldn't get any funnier

http://www.lukelowrey.com/bio/

OMG  :o
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: Raptor on January 30, 2012, 08:32:10 am
A life-long entrepreneur, Luke is credited as the inventor of the UPN™ Technology – the world’s first and only such mathematical algorithm for plotting and predicting improvements in athletic performance. It has been hailed as “the greatest advance in athletic performance technology”, “the defining point between performance enhancement of yesterday and performance enhancement of tomorrow” and even “worthy of a Nobel prize” by media outlets such as ESPN, the Wall Street Journal and CNBC.
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: acole14 on February 09, 2012, 08:51:05 am
His insights on the internet are truly fascinating.

http://www.lukelowrey.com/internet/
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: LBSS on February 09, 2012, 09:16:31 am
His insights on the internet are truly fascinating.

http://www.lukelowrey.com/internet/

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 :highfive:
Title: Re: luke f****n lowery
Post by: JackW on February 12, 2012, 06:24:14 pm
Hi Internet insights are about the first honest thing he has said in years.