Im with you bro. I STILL see threads some places where people talk about some of his "ideas" and it makes me want to vomit. I dont know what else we can do to really change things since people will always have the mentality that there is some super secret out there to jump training and since he charges alot, his product must be great. Maybe one day people will realize but he will already be out with a new gimmick by then and probably using another name in a whole new market. I wonder if he would show up if I "booked" him for a session at my gym. I dont care if I got sued or not it would be worth it to put it up on youtube.
Yea man, I used to put blame entirely on the scammers but as of this year or so, I put half of it on the stupid as fuck sheep who lack the ability to smell shit even when it's right under their nose. Most of them grow out of it as they fail on these programs, which they then research about the program and realize they got duped.
Question number one, can you show me how to jump higher inside this little square thingy with ropes around it?
hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! epic.
The only way to fix the industry, in my opinion, is to make so much noise that you can't help but be heard by the entire planet.. most people sell their soul to do that, which of course doesn't help anyone.. But if someone were to take plenty of athletes from say low 30's RVJ to 45 RVJ, 11+ 100m's to low 10.x 100m's, then we'd have something to work with.. For example, if Jay Schroeder's bullshit ideology actually worked, then s&c would have really been transformed, there would not be any way around it.. if iso extremes made you bionic, and there was incredible result after incredible result (instead of all failures), then the performance envelope could actually be pushed and a wide scale acceptance of these methods would take place.
I'd say the only thing that comes close to that, at this point, is Westside method. I mean, variations of that for athletics are used in nearly every performance facility, unfortunately, most of it is for show in my opinion, with people bragging about box jump improvement instead of actual vert improvement, and somehow the system turning nearly everyone into meatheads with a strongman training obsession. I have nothing against that stuff, but when I see a speed/power athlete starting to become obsessed primarily with weightlifting PR's rather than a combination of fitness, power, speed, and lifting PR's, then something is wrong with the system. I'm not saying all gyms who incorporate a westside variant do that, but i'd say the majority do. Plus, as cool as Louie is, he talks alot of bullshit with his vert/speed numbers... every youtube vid i see him on he's talking about taking a 11s 100m russian sprinter down to 10.1 or something weird along those lines, with no names, or taking some guys vert from crap to bionic, with no names. So, even if a guy as legit as louie spits mostly good info, if he tries to sell it on a soft layer of bullshit, it ends up holding back his methods, imo. I like the guy though.
Damn i'm ranting.
So ya...
One more thing: Coaches need to be athletes. That usually pisses off plenty of people, especially coaches who aren't athletes, lol.. Sure their are great coaches who were really shitty athletes, but man, if you want to take CRAPPY athletes and make them elite, then you're going to have to be able to do the same to yourself. Any coach can train an elite athlete, i mean, as much as coaches don't want to hear it, it's the truth.. Getting them to peak properly for competitions, and giving them those all so significant yet small pr's, ya that takes some good coaching.. but keeping them at a generally high level can be done so many ways, using ineffective ideology. The true task, of real s&c coaching, is to figure out how to turn all of these slow as fuck non genetic crap athletes (such as myself and many others on these forums) and turn them into elite athletes.
s&c has not figured that out yet.. Their are outliers sure, but it just doesn't happen on a consistent basis.
You can't say to your 18 year old son: "Okay timmy, you're going into athlete improvement camp now, it's going to take 2 years and absolutely everything you got, but once those two years are over, you will be transformed, guaranteed."
So if a coach can't achieve some respectable results himself, then how will he be able to truly pass that on to future clients? I'm not dissing EVERY coach, but a majority of them. I'm not even really dissing them though, it's more of a reality check statement.
I'd like to think that these results could be achieve by pretty much ANY trainee (including coaches), lack of injuries/pathologies permitting, over the course of 3-4 years:
- 40" running vert
- 10' broad jump
- 35" standing vert
- 10.9x 100m
That's where the dilemma in s&c occurs, right there.. It just isn't happening.. we as coaches need to make it happen, not just in our facilities but also on these forums, though it is much harder
Plenty of people on TVS and on here have been making great progress, we just need to make sure that they understand the long term training plan, so they can progress over a few years and become totally transformed. Sure many aren't interested in 100m/broad jumps, but those vert goals still are what everyone should be striving for
I think people are really starting to get it though, the last year or so on some of these forums, I see a change.. people are sticking to the basics and looking at the big picture.
We'll see, if "our message" can't spread worldwide, at least a small portion of the world will have an edge in training.
peace man
