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« on: February 24, 2011, 07:19:53 pm »
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thread is simple enough.
No evidence of any of concepts preached in it.
burden of proof is on religion, i don't have to disprove the existence of a "god." religion is the theory supposing something inexplicable and highly improbable is so. the burden of proof therefore lies on religion.
As some other physicist has announced, (i wish i came up with this myself) not plagiarizing though...suppose i said that a very small magical teapot orbits around the sun with amazing properties and that the magical teapot started civilization. this teapot however, is too small to see in any telescope, and cannot be celestially or physically detected or proven in any way. what if for 400 years straight mothers told their children stories of the magical teapot, and forced them to go to teapot worship once a week for an hour, where they were to drink out of a magical teacup, and stories about the kindness and greatness of the magical teacup were told at these eulogies...you would essentially have religion in another form-wherein lies the problem of religion. it is a scam-or something intentionally meant to deceive or dupe people.
why? religion is a billion dollar industry in nearly every country dumb enough to believe in it, and worst of all-there are no taxes on charity donations to bs churches, who may or may not do what they say they will with the money that they take from religious followers. It is highly probable much of this money is unreported and/or misused.
LIES the catholic church has told:
condoms do not protect against HIV/AIDS
rape cannot produce a child
the earth is the center of the universe
women have practiced "witchcraft" and have been burnt for it...
there are millions of gods i don't believe in. zeus, apollo, thor, poseidon, osiris...and the list goes on. christianity is not the first nor is it the 5th nor is it the 10th religion with its main character supposed to have been conceived on the winter solstice, nor is it original in the whole coming back from the death thing. there were many folk religions and mythologies before it where some dude died then came back, which by the way, is physically impossible.
if the big bang didn't create the universe...that doesn't mean an invisible man in the sky did, which is no better an explanation.
if you actually do C 14 isotope half life dating you can see the earth is millions of years old, wasn't made in 6 days, and there is actual physical and genetic evidence we descend from a primate relative.
another problem is how religious black people are, and how few atheists are african american in the US. why is this? because when caucasians from europe enslaved blacks from africa and supressed them with weapons, violence, and rape, they also forced their religion of christianity upon them. i dont know why black people are so religious and into christianity. they should really think about it, trace it back to where it came from-and realize it was forced upon them violently by a white man. whatever blacks in africa believed during the 1500s, it wasn't christianity, it was another mythology or tribal earth value kind of religion.
the bible was believed to have been written during a time period when people thought the earth was flat and no one knew what an atom or a germ was. also, in the noah's ark story, apparently a 500 year old man captured a male and female of every species on earth, crammed them all into a boat, and got them to fuck. this means he captured all 1 million species of insects flies and spiders. that doesn't make sense. the bible contradicts itself over and over again and is a bunch of bullshit that doesn't add up and is simply used to keep stupid people quiet, maintain political and social hierarchy, and keep power to people who are lazy and don't want to work because they claim "god" as a reason.
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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2011, 07:34:17 pm »
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This should be a great thread.

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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2011, 08:15:08 pm »
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hahaha welcome to the frikken forum..

before I go on, I would like to side with: FUCK RELIGION

sure everyone is 'entitled to their religious beiiefs as long as they don't violate the non-aggression principle', in my opinion, BUT, religion keeps people trapped, enslaves them mentally, and is a tool for WAR.

it's alot easier to die for "the state", when you believe you are going to experience the afterlife... if you believe in evolution and no after life, it would be SOOOOOOOOOO much harder to put your life on the line for A BUNCH OF RETARD'S political/ideological views..

religion is a tool to enslave..



so ya, this is by far the greatest call em out thread in this subforum, because the king of all scammers, is religion.

bravo

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thread is simple enough.
No evidence of any of concepts preached in it.
burden of proof is on religion, i don't have to disprove the existence of a "god." religion is the theory supposing something inexplicable and highly improbable is so. the burden of proof therefore lies on religion.

but what about bat sonar bro! that has to be god-made! intelligently designed!

some fucking retard used that on my in a religious debate in person and I my brain just exploded..



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As some other physicist has announced, (i wish i came up with this myself) not plagiarizing though...suppose i said that a very small magical teapot orbits around the sun with amazing properties and that the magical teapot started civilization. this teapot however, is too small to see in any telescope, and cannot be celestially or physically detected or proven in any way. what if for 400 years straight mothers told their children stories of the magical teapot, and forced them to go to teapot worship once a week for an hour, where they were to drink out of a magical teacup, and stories about the kindness and greatness of the magical teacup were told at these eulogies...you would essentially have religion in another form-wherein lies the problem of religion. it is a scam-or something intentionally meant to deceive or dupe people.
why? religion is a billion dollar industry in nearly every country dumb enough to believe in it, and worst of all-there are no taxes on charity donations to bs churches, who may or may not do what they say they will with the money that they take from religious followers. It is highly probable much of this money is unreported and/or misused.

yup


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LIES the catholic church has told:

children the catholic church has touched..........  :uhhhfacepalm:





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condoms do not protect against HIV/AIDS
rape cannot produce a child
the earth is the center of the universe
women have practiced "witchcraft" and have been burnt for it...
there are millions of gods i don't believe in. zeus, apollo, thor, poseidon, osiris...and the list goes on. christianity is not the first nor is it the 5th nor is it the 10th religion with its main character supposed to have been conceived on the winter solstice, nor is it original in the whole coming back from the death thing. there were many folk religions and mythologies before it where some dude died then came back, which by the way, is physically impossible.
if the big bang didn't create the universe...that doesn't mean an invisible man in the sky did, which is no better an explanation.
if you actually do C 14 isotope half life dating you can see the earth is millions of years old, wasn't made in 6 days, and there is actual physical and genetic evidence we descend from a primate relative.
another problem is how religious black people are, and how few atheists are african american in the US. why is this? because when caucasians from europe enslaved blacks from africa and supressed them with weapons, violence, and rape, they also forced their religion of christianity upon them. i dont know why black people are so religious and into christianity. they should really think about it, trace it back to where it came from-and realize it was forced upon them violently by a white man. whatever blacks in africa believed during the 1500s, it wasn't christianity, it was another mythology or tribal earth value kind of religion.
the bible was believed to have been written during a time period when people thought the earth was flat and no one knew what an atom or a germ was. also, in the noah's ark story, apparently a 500 year old man captured a male and female of every species on earth, crammed them all into a boat, and got them to fuck. this means he captured all 1 million species of insects flies and spiders. that doesn't make sense. the bible contradicts itself over and over again and is a bunch of bullshit that doesn't add up and is simply used to keep stupid people quiet, maintain political and social hierarchy, and keep power to people who are lazy and don't want to work because they claim "god" as a reason.

i saw a video last month or so, nigerian witchcraft executions, it was on youtube.. if one wants to see religion in it's EARLY form, look no further than the third world..

i witnessed people being beaten to death with stucks and burned alive, while people chanted, all because those people "refused to accept christianity" etc.

shit like that happens every day in some form or another..

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edit: i don't believe in an afterlife, it's definitely "harder" on your psyche, knowing once your loved ones are gone you'll never see them again.. but that's my reality and the highest probability of actual reality.. would be cool to have an afterlife where i could just dunk all day and chill with fam, but until then (which won't happen), gotta do it now.

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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2011, 08:52:31 pm »
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the richard dawkins/wendy wright interview makes my eyes bleed

http://www.adarq.org/forum/politics-news-and-sheeit/a-christian-%27hell-house%27/

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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2011, 09:06:58 pm »
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that bitch gets owned in that video, it is hilarious. and yes, the only way to know what happens when you die is to ask a dead person. and of course there is no way to do that. so the only way to know is to die. which in and of itself negates the possibility of you communicating anything that could possibly happen after death to any living person, which therefore disproves the theory that any living person knows what happens when you die. both my parents are "god fearing" it is such a joke. i ask them questions every day like, "why does such and so happen?" and they just say "because" or "whatever," and they have no comebacks to any logical physical scientific or mathematically proven argument. that is the problem. religion truly is a mental illness. it has been responsible for the majority of deaths in human history in one way or another. hitler was a roman catholic, he was not an atheist. and stalin killed people cuz he was a retard, not because he was an atheist. what separates these mass murders though is that hitler did it in the name of religion, and stalin did it to be an idiot, and the people he was killing were not religious, nor was he. 9/11, holy war crusades, terrorism, violence in middle east, murders of islam women for not covering their bodies, stoning people for doing things they haven't been found guilty of in trial, etc...these all have occured because of religion.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2011, 10:01:21 pm »
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tl;dr
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: extensive tempo (7 km) OR fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
wednesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

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- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
- upper push myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- upper pull myo-reps or sets to technical failure
- leg raises, holds, pallof presses

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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 10:16:39 pm »
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Saw these, could have been here but if you haven't seen them, here you are.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wV_REEdvxo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wV_REEdvxo</a>


Don't know if this is entirely factual, but it's still funny.

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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 10:58:56 pm »
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Saw these, could have been here but if you haven't seen them, here you are.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wV_REEdvxo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wV_REEdvxo</a>


love vids like that.. on the other hand, i can't even watch intelligent design justification vids or any of that stuff, a part of my brain freaks out and i get mad.. it's odd.

bat sonar son, god musta deed it.

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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 01:51:55 am »
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everytime curry made a shot, he pointed his finger to his heart then to the sky, symbolizing god...curry is top 3 FG% point guard

just throwing out a fact

err what??!! That's not a fact. There is no single proof that he receive help from GOD.  Check out power balance, it claims that it can increase the players' balance immediately. But there is no proof of either.  It's all in the head. It's what we call placebo effect.

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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2011, 02:40:29 am »
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everytime curry made a shot, he pointed his finger to his heart then to the sky, symbolizing god...curry is top 3 FG% point guard

just throwing out a fact

That's nice

I love how every athlete is "religious" but then they "sin" by having "pre-marital sex".


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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2011, 09:00:21 am »
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everytime curry made a shot, he pointed his finger to his heart then to the sky, symbolizing god...curry is top 3 FG% point guard

just throwing out a fact

yes that may absolutely be factual. however, does this fact prove or disprove the existence of any god/gods?
which side of the argument do you take and why.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2011, 09:35:39 am »
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I am religious but I will not flame anyone for being atheist or any different religion. I would also encourage anyone to learn from and study some of the big religions and former religious leaders. Even if you do not truly believe, any one to dismiss the teachings and writing of such religious leaders as Jesus, Buddha,Confucius, Thomas Aquinas, and Lao-tzu, etc, is missing out. I would encourage anyone to not limit their own education based on religious or non religious beliefs.

IE An athiest should still learn about what Aquinas said
  A catholic should still read about what Buddha said
  A Protestant should still read what acclaimed atheist thinkers say

Learning about other cultures, and learning from some of the greatest leaders of all time(whether you like it or not), will only lead to positives and tolerance.

Also, yes tons of conflicts have been based on religion, even more have been based on non religious issues, so what? Last I checked most religions TRULY dont encourage violence and deaths, its the crazy people who take it to the extreme. I wonder how many conflicts have been stopped due to religion.  I just was reading about a time when the Pope stopped a germanic tribe leader from destroying Rome simply by talking to him.  I also read about how different a lot of the former "barbaric" german tribes became after Christianity spread.  IE they feared killing and raping the innocent because they heard about or believed about some kind of after life judgement.  Anything that preaches charity, peace, and conscience clearly can do a lot of good.  Anything taken to the extreme religious or not can cause a lot of harm.

Not gonna spend time arguing or trying to change anyones mind, just thought id throw out my 2 cents.
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2011, 10:55:46 am »
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Afaik, Lao-tzu, taoism, it isn't a religion, it's philosophy.

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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2011, 02:18:30 pm »
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I am religious but I will not flame anyone for being atheist or any different religion. I would also encourage anyone to learn from and study some of the big religions and former religious leaders. Even if you do not truly believe, any one to dismiss the teachings and writing of such religious leaders as Jesus, Buddha,Confucius, Thomas Aquinas, and Lao-tzu, etc, is missing out. I would encourage anyone to not limit their own education based on religious or non religious beliefs.

IE An athiest should still learn about what Aquinas said
  A catholic should still read about what Buddha said
  A Protestant should still read what acclaimed atheist thinkers say

Learning about other cultures, and learning from some of the greatest leaders of all time(whether you like it or not), will only lead to positives and tolerance.

Also, yes tons of conflicts have been based on religion, even more have been based on non religious issues, so what? Last I checked most religions TRULY dont encourage violence and deaths, its the crazy people who take it to the extreme. I wonder how many conflicts have been stopped due to religion.  I just was reading about a time when the Pope stopped a germanic tribe leader from destroying Rome simply by talking to him.  I also read about how different a lot of the former "barbaric" german tribes became after Christianity spread.  IE they feared killing and raping the innocent because they heard about or believed about some kind of after life judgement.  Anything that preaches charity, peace, and conscience clearly can do a lot of good.  Anything taken to the extreme religious or not can cause a lot of harm.

Not gonna spend time arguing or trying to change anyones mind, just thought id throw out my 2 cents.
please tell me what i should or can learn from religion.
i treat others the way i want to be treated because i think that people should be nice to each other, and i want others to be nice to me, and i do not like to be a hypocrite. what moral values could religion possibly teach me that i do not already have. you should not lie because you are stealing someone's right to the truth. you should not kill cuz that steals a life. you shouldn't fuck without a condom unless you've seen each others tests and know each of you are negative and have agreed and communicated on the openness of the sexual relationship. man will always covet his neighbor's wife. it is whether or not he nails it that determines whether or not he has done something bad. if she is married to another person, then you shouldn't bone her.
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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2011, 03:11:19 pm »
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Not gonna argue why i believe islam is true; i dont like flame wars, but:

If i believe in religion, then i "win" from my perspective. even if the atheists are correct, i still "win" from my POV:

If I'm correct: I have a chance of saving myself.
If I'm incorrect: I don't lose anything in my afterlife.

HOWEVER, many atheists will say "oh forget the afterlift that doesn't exist, you lose in your life right now!"

Here's how I address that:

In this life now, I'm satisfied believing that there is an afterlife, so from my point of view, i'm satisfied in "knowing" that I'm not actually losing or missing out on this life.
Additionally, if i'm wrong, when I die, THERE WON'T BE A "ME." Therefore, I will never be there to think "damn I shoulda lived life to the fullest." Not only that, but if there is no religion, when we die, we won't know it
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