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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2011, 03:16:57 pm »
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Also, my best friend (ex-muslim who's now an atheist) has changed his outlook on life. He says "i only have one life to live, so why throw it away? It's so precious. I'll take care of my body. I won't be like some other atheists and decide to smoke and drink because hey -- i only live once. To me, that's counter-intuitive."
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2011, 04:21:59 pm »
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2011, 06:53:35 pm »
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that is a pretty stupid reason, to live your whole life in fear just in case there is a god. overwhelming odds is there is no god. if life is so good after death, why don't you just kill yourself now? after all, you'd be saved, would you not?
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2011, 11:08:21 pm »
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everytime curry made a shot, he pointed his finger to his heart then to the sky, symbolizing god...curry is top 3 FG% point guard

just throwing out a fact

great point, god is definitely more interested in curry hitting 3 pointers than 100,000+ haitians dying in the earthquake, tsunamis, genocides, famine, rape, child molestation, murders, and wars.

100% agree, curry got a nice stroke.

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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2011, 11:18:24 pm »
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Also, my best friend (ex-muslim who's now an atheist) has changed his outlook on life. He says "i only have one life to live, so why throw it away? It's so precious. I'll take care of my body. I won't be like some other atheists and decide to smoke and drink because hey -- i only live once. To me, that's counter-intuitive."

see this is where I think people who have a religion are "flawed" in their reasoning.. an atheist would have more incentive to take care of themselves if they didn't believe in an afterlife, wouldn't they? because they would need to prolong the very limited chance at life they have on this earth, because they know at the end, there is nothing??

i see it completely opposite from you and most religious people..

i would imagine it is much easier to "not take care of yourself" or "go out with a bang" if you believe in an afterlife or reincarnation.. this is why i believe religion is a very powerful tool, which I can demonstrate easily in terms of radical islam, radical christianity, etc.. radical islam is probably the best example because of "what they believe is promised to them by god" if they die in the act of jihad etc.. 72 virgins are promised, isn't it? now, why would you care about living if someone promised you 72 virgins after you died.. if that was true i'd kill myself right now while holding on very tight to tubs of KY warming sensations jelly.

i'm not trying to insult islam directly, all religions are the same.. to me, they are a tool for war..

if everyone believed in science & evolution, there would be MORE respect for the process of life AND more understanding of how precious it really is... because once you kill yourself or your enemy in battle, aint no coming back from that.

in fact, I imagine a far greater number of atheists are vegetarians compared to religious individuals? broscience statement, but i would bet it to be true... religion tells you the animals are there for you, just give thanks and chow down (except for what, pork in islam and non-blessed foods in judaism).. atheists don't have an excuse to eat/kill animals other than humans evolved to do so.

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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2011, 08:04:35 am »
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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2011, 01:00:41 pm »
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everytime curry made a shot, he pointed his finger to his heart then to the sky, symbolizing god...curry is top 3 FG% point guard

just throwing out a fact

great point, god is definitely more interested in curry hitting 3 pointers than 100,000+ haitians dying in the earthquake, tsunamis, genocides, famine, rape, child molestation, murders, and wars.

100% agree, curry got a nice stroke.


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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2011, 04:46:19 pm »
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I'm really sorry Adarq, but this is a topic that can become very offensive to all people on this forum, religious or non-religious. Religion is a very personal view and an argument about it can turn very disastrous once everyone starts bashing other people's views. This would be a great topic to discuss if there isn't going to be any kind of conflicting or controversial things being said, but it's really hard to keep it that way when talking about religion. That is why I think you should delete this topic, just for respect for all users.

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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2011, 04:48:57 pm »
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i don't think he should. and i don't think you should be offended by facts, science, and logic. anybody telling somebody to close up shop in an argument is simply doing so because they are losing the argument. religion is a joke and is the biggest lie ever told in human history.
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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2011, 05:38:56 pm »
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Yeah, deleting this thread would be against free speech.
Staying away from debating certain topics b/c one thinks them to be too taboo is nonsensical.

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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2011, 05:40:30 pm »
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deleting isn't needed, as long as people don't write pure hate/bashing WITHOUT a backed up arguement.
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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2011, 05:54:48 pm »
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I'm really sorry Adarq, but this is a topic that can become very offensive to all people on this forum, religious or non-religious. Religion is a very personal view and an argument about it can turn very disastrous once everyone starts bashing other people's views. This would be a great topic to discuss if there isn't going to be any kind of conflicting or controversial things being said, but it's really hard to keep it that way when talking about religion. That is why I think you should delete this topic, just for respect for all users.

conflict, truth, facts, science, controversy, opinion, nothing wrong with any of that.. this topic may offend some, it may be accepted by others, but adarq.org follows democratic principles, I do my best not to censor user's opinions.

beyond that, I personally love this thread.. you may find this thread offense, but I find religion and it's fallout offensive.. sure those words could cause me to "lose supporters", but i'm definitely not one to put popularity/acceptance before integrity/personal belief. My views on religion are not those "expressed by adarq.org", the views of adarq.org range from accepting religion to completely denouncing it, I am only one person among what, 1000+ on this forum.

This topic is bigger than just "religion", it also transcends itself into the s&c industry -> their are plenty of s&c coaches out there who use "religious tactics" to try and brainwash their clientele, take jay schroeder & james colbert for example. Their training is the closest you can get to a "religious experience" in the athletic world, you literally have to have "faith" that what you are doing is working and will work, if you don't have ENOUGH faith then it won't work, but if you have enough faith it will work..... so everyone who fails to make gains, just isn't "thinking hard enough or trying hard enough" using their completely retarded iso extreme system. This is spoon bending at it's finest. This is why so many people/athletes buy into "bullshit", they are looking for some kind of truth when the real truth is right there in front of them. There's no secrets, no magic, no amount of "Faith" that will cause considerabe athletic performance enhancements, well other than steroids.

^^ that is totally off topic, people are "entitled to their beliefs", but if we're talking about "spoon bending", then people who are entitled to their beliefs also LACK science, evidence, & logic. If someone truly believes they can bend a spoon with their mind, that is their "belief", but there is no scientific backing or proof that it has occurred, has ever occurred, or ever will occur. It's 2011, the scientific community publicly, as a whole, does not "accept religion". These are people who understand the natural world down to the most nuclear level. I side with them.

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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2011, 06:15:28 pm »
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there is no need to delete this thread.  People should be able to point out the inconsistency about any religion. We do not live in the dark ages anymore.  We all hear too much praise about any religion in our life and a little bit critical views on religions should not offend reasonable people.  I truly believe if a person is confident enough about his religion, he will accept these critical views and find a balance between science and religion himself. The one who often shut the door or seriously offended when they heard some counter views need to ask themselves, Do you really have faith on your religion or you just blindly follow.

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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2011, 06:24:36 pm »
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deleting isn't needed, as long as people don't write pure hate/bashing WITHOUT a backed up arguement.

why don't you back up religion with an argument that is logical and factual? people who bash religion have made factual arguments. if anybody here is going to get angry over this thread, they are free to leave this forum.
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Re: RELIGION
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2011, 06:51:48 pm »
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deleting isn't needed, as long as people don't write pure hate/bashing WITHOUT a backed up arguement.

why don't you back up religion with an argument that is logical and factual? people who bash religion have made factual arguments. if anybody here is going to get angry over this thread, they are free to leave this forum.

? ? ? I never was angry....

my thoughts:

I never said religion is real. I was simply born into a religion-practicing family, and my parents imposed their views among me. As of now, I am left very, very confused. All the facts say that there is no religion, but the years I've been practicing my religion have left me feel very weird about 'ditching' my religion. I want to, but there's something thats holding me back....

sounds weak, but my viewpoint.
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