I'm really sorry Adarq, but this is a topic that can become very offensive to all people on this forum, religious or non-religious. Religion is a very personal view and an argument about it can turn very disastrous once everyone starts bashing other people's views. This would be a great topic to discuss if there isn't going to be any kind of conflicting or controversial things being said, but it's really hard to keep it that way when talking about religion. That is why I think you should delete this topic, just for respect for all users.
conflict, truth, facts, science, controversy, opinion, nothing wrong with any of that.. this topic may offend some, it may be accepted by others, but adarq.org follows democratic principles, I do my best not to censor user's opinions.
beyond that, I personally love this thread.. you may find this thread offense, but I find religion and it's fallout offensive.. sure those words could cause me to "lose supporters", but i'm definitely not one to put popularity/acceptance before integrity/personal belief. My views on religion are not those "expressed by adarq.org", the views of adarq.org range from accepting religion to completely denouncing it, I am only one person among what, 1000+ on this forum.
This topic is bigger than just "religion", it also transcends itself into the s&c industry -> their are plenty of s&c coaches out there who use "religious tactics" to try and brainwash their clientele, take jay schroeder & james colbert for example. Their training is the closest you can get to a "religious experience" in the athletic world, you literally have to have "faith" that what you are doing is working and will work, if you don't have ENOUGH faith then it won't work, but if you have enough faith it will work..... so everyone who fails to make gains, just isn't "thinking hard enough or trying hard enough" using their completely retarded iso extreme system. This is spoon bending at it's finest. This is why so many people/athletes buy into "bullshit", they are looking for some kind of truth when the real truth is right there in front of them. There's no secrets, no magic, no amount of "Faith" that will cause considerabe athletic performance enhancements, well other than steroids.
^^ that is totally off topic, people are "entitled to their beliefs", but if we're talking about "spoon bending", then people who are entitled to their beliefs also LACK science, evidence, & logic. If someone truly believes they can bend a spoon with their mind, that is their "belief", but there is no scientific backing or proof that it has occurred, has ever occurred, or ever will occur. It's 2011, the scientific community publicly, as a whole, does not "accept religion". These are people who understand the natural world down to the most nuclear level. I side with them.
peace