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Title: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 14, 2010, 07:14:13 pm
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Ok this has got to be one of the slimiest attempts at self promotion & marketing I have ever seen.




For those of you who are unfamiliar with this expo, here is the video that explains everything:
- http://athleticdominationexpo.s3.amazonaws.com/ADE%20Sales%20PPT.mp4

Basically, he is offering some "athletic domination package" for free, for the first 500 people who donate $20, with all money going to a haiti relief fund, but then after 500, the price of the package becomes $97.





I have no problem with donating money to haiti, or a group of people offering some kind of product in return for donations to a haiti fund, but here's what I have a problem with:

- After 500 people donate, the price of their product reaches $97

Why do that? Why not just offer the package for "FREE" with a $20 donation, forever? You claim you're not making any money from this, but uh, what happens when the product goes to $97? Of course you're making alot of money from this, you slime ball fucks.

I personally feel this is slimeball-tactics101, so with that being said, I demand that Taylor Allan and his marketing slime ball friends show PROOF that all 500 donations of $20 are going to a haiti relief fund. I see no reason why it wouldn't though, why would they (Taylor Allan, Maroko, Marketing gurus) keep any of that money? Within a few days the product will be sold for $97 each, with no money going to haiti (it has not been stated), so that's where all their bank will come rolling in.

- Promote & market using the haiti disaster, create buzz, get more subscribers/emails/members
- Price gouge the originally 'package' that was intended to help haiti, and now make all the money from it

Great strategy Taylor Allan you slime ball fuck.

The only way these guys can save face on this is to continue to offer the package for $20 with all money going to haiti, and never increasing the price for one moment, but that will never happen.



"Sales" lollololololol

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Good hearted people wouldn't jack the price up to 97$ after 500 people donate, you slime ball fuck.

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Why would fellow coaches recommend the price rise to $97? So far, two of them claimed they had no idea of the price rice.

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If you sell out, print more, or offer more, don't price gouge using a natural disaster to make money, that's so god damn grimey man i can't even really put it into words in text.

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A huge bonus for helping "Taylor Allan" and his marketing scam buddies.

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The "elite 500" <-- lol... So what are the people who pay 97$, "the dumb fucks 200" ?

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How many times you going to tell us, elite-500 fucking times?

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bull-shit.

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This is just lame:

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I would like to see all 13 coaches involved publicly demand that this product stays $20 with all proceeds going to haiti, otherwise, you're just as bad as Taylor Allen & Alex Maroko

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Price gouging this "package" is what makes this whole thing wreak of scammer, if it stayed $20 with all money going to haiti, there would be absolutely no problem with it.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on May 14, 2010, 08:37:20 pm
Allan22's excuse is gonna be "we need to donate as fast as possible thats why we limit it to 500". Fine, have the first 500 donate, donate the 10k, and then keep doing donations. I though you aren't making a penny off this and just are trying to help haiti?

He's even said before Maroko is helping him get into the "business".
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 14, 2010, 09:08:03 pm
Allan22's excuse is gonna be "we need to donate as fast as possible thats why we limit it to 500". Fine, have the first 500 donate, donate the 10k, and then keep doing donations. I though you aren't making a penny off this and just are trying to help haiti?

ya that's what i don't understand, _makes no sense_.

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He's even said before Maroko is helping him get into the "business".

lol ya..
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 14, 2010, 10:02:47 pm
http://www.charitywatch.org/

http://www.charitywatch.org/hottopics/Haiti.html

wonder which one he's donating to?
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 14, 2010, 10:18:09 pm
from an interview with AlexV with Taylor Allen on his site: http://evolutionaryathletics.com/blogs/blog/new-interview-taylor-allan/

"***Note it is free to listen to all the interviews in the expo, including mine, however I would encourage you to donate $20 to the cause and receive the manuscripts and all of the bonuses.  As is common with catastrophes like Haiti, or New Orleans, the initial response is great but as time moves on we tend to forget about those in need.  There is still a ton of work to be done and an enormous amount of people in need.  Taylor is a stand up guy and this is a stand up cause.***"







"The way we raise money is by giving away a package of 5 products for free in exchange for a $20 donation to our Haiti relief fund. So we give a ton of value to people for free, and we just ask that they donate $20 in return.

I think thatís why weíve been so successful, because itís such a great offer and a great deal for everyone involved.

Obviously this is not-for-profit so we donít make any money out of it, but everyone benefits from it overall. "







"Iíd say my number one piece of advice is to choose who you learn from. Donít go taking advice from everybody, especially with the way the Internet is nowadays. Seek out the best and learn from them, and kick everyone else to the curb because there is just too much information and too much B.S. out there. "








eh.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 14, 2010, 10:28:55 pm
"first 500 to watch" turns into "first 500 to donate", just some nice slick marketing guruness i thought i'd point out, bravo.

nice wording:

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Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 14, 2010, 10:32:28 pm
it's very urgent, we need to reach 500 donations as soon as possible because then i can bump up the price 4x and make some good money.

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lol


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Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on May 14, 2010, 11:30:43 pm
http://dbhammer.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=links&thread=3067&page=1

Look at those fags
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: mattyg35 on May 15, 2010, 12:24:25 am
"Today at 10:27pm, jcsbck wrote:
Today at 8:50pm, jtrinsey wrote:


Why not donate all of our wordly possessions to Haiti?

Do I think this is some amazing piece of self-sacrifice? No. But, as long as they are legitimately donating the money to Haiti and providing a good product, this is a win-win. People in Haiti who really need the money get a nice donation and Taylor raises awareness of his product.
 


Because I'm not claiming I'm not making a penny, yet I actually am making money. Watch the video, he talks about how the only purpose of this is to help Haiti, but then why does the donation stop at 10k? The guy is just using a tragedy to sell shit. If he was more honest about his intentions in the video, there'd be no problem.
 
 


His intentions from the video is clear a daylight jcsbcsck, he wants to help the haitians while promoting his product eventually making great monies with it, how can u not understand that?


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Is it "good" marketing, sure. Is it ethical marketing, hell no. Luke Lowery has "good" marketing too. The reason adarq calls these guys is because of their "genius marketing". Obviously it works, but we think it's unethical.
 
 


Who are you to decide what is ethical and unethical? To be most successful in marketing yourself in this world you must do a few tricks or how should i put it, behind the scenes tactics if you get a drift?

So what he "use" a disaster to help promote his product, President Bush use 9/11 to goto war with iraq i dont see you complaining? Similar situation here just let it be guy has to make his money why you hater blocking him ? lol


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I am not having sexual relations with adarq, . It just bothers us both because we know how many kids actually fall for this shit, and tricking kids is unethical.
 


It bothers him to have such a crappy forum and never make anything of himself, woo hoo he dunk a few times then give out advice and act like a fool.

Kids are very good market because parents will spend big euros at their request, that is why most peoples target this population, they will wise up but before they do they are good to spend alot of money on your product how can you not see this? "



What a dumb cunt.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 15, 2010, 04:15:25 am
"Today at 10:27pm, jcsbck wrote:
Today at 8:50pm, jtrinsey wrote:


Why not donate all of our wordly possessions to Haiti?

Do I think this is some amazing piece of self-sacrifice? No. But, as long as they are legitimately donating the money to Haiti and providing a good product, this is a win-win. People in Haiti who really need the money get a nice donation and Taylor raises awareness of his product.
 


Because I'm not claiming I'm not making a penny, yet I actually am making money. Watch the video, he talks about how the only purpose of this is to help Haiti, but then why does the donation stop at 10k? The guy is just using a tragedy to sell shit. If he was more honest about his intentions in the video, there'd be no problem.
 
 


His intentions from the video is clear a daylight jcsbcsck, he wants to help the haitians while promoting his product eventually making great monies with it, how can u not understand that?


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Is it "good" marketing, sure. Is it ethical marketing, hell no. Luke Lowery has "good" marketing too. The reason adarq calls these guys is because of their "genius marketing". Obviously it works, but we think it's unethical.
 
 


Who are you to decide what is ethical and unethical? To be most successful in marketing yourself in this world you must do a few tricks or how should i put it, behind the scenes tactics if you get a drift?

So what he "use" a disaster to help promote his product, President Bush use 9/11 to goto war with iraq i dont see you complaining? Similar situation here just let it be guy has to make his money why you hater blocking him ? lol


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I am not having sexual relations with adarq, . It just bothers us both because we know how many kids actually fall for this shit, and tricking kids is unethical.
 


It bothers him to have such a crappy forum and never make anything of himself, woo hoo he dunk a few times then give out advice and act like a fool.

Kids are very good market because parents will spend big euros at their request, that is why most peoples target this population, they will wise up but before they do they are good to spend alot of money on your product how can you not see this? "



What a dumb cunt.


lol :D
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 15, 2010, 05:05:47 am
people call me an asshole, etc.. but i mean, this is from a few days ago:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyH4Mc1KMcE

it did sound cool, until you dive deeper into it and find out the true intentions.

im cracking up at people justifying the $97 price hike.. come on now.

gn folks.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: JackW on May 15, 2010, 06:38:10 am
Great work as always Adarqui. That Ginroth character on DBHAmmer is clearly an imbecile. This type of promotion is right up there with the sort of crap Lowery pulls, maybe worse.

Truly, you are on fire

Jack

Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 15, 2010, 02:49:58 pm
Great work as always Adarqui. That Ginroth character on DBHAmmer is clearly an imbecile. This type of promotion is right up there with the sort of crap Lowery pulls, maybe worse.

Truly, you are on fire

Jack



Sup man, as always, thanks for the support for *our* little causes, as we both hate this kind of shit with a passion. I think this little event is worse than what Lowrey pulls.. Lowrey is on Maroko's level, but Taylor Allan just went up and beyond that. Using some kind of event, in this case a natural disaster, to market ones self does happen alot, so you can't completely get on him for that. Responsible companies/people though, they have legit offers that come along with it, such as raising money for as long as possible, pretty much ALL money going to the fund etc (maybe a very small percentage going to the cost of operating the fund like 5% or something).

What he's done is so blatantly irresponsible that it puts him on that next level, right from the get go.

Seriously though, he never mentioned the organization he's donating through, most people make sure to do that. I mean, it's not like he's just going to take the 10k put it in an envelope addressed to "Haiti" and send it over. There is a process for this kind of stuff to ensure legitimacy. I'd love to see proof of him sending the money to an organization when he does it, as per my curiosity.

He's also stayed quiet in this little fiasco, he has learned good from the jedi master himself, Alex "Jedi ScamMaster" Maroko.

peace man
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: Kellyb on May 15, 2010, 04:56:11 pm
I honestly didn't even pay much attention to what the offer consisted of and I didn't know he had advertised a price raise.  I'm not exactly sure what his intentions are but from a marketing perspective one could argue the price jump to $97  is more about creating value and some semblance of urgency rather than actually promoting and expecting future sales at $97.  In fact just based on what I know about selling stuff online I'd be surprised if a single person ended up buying that package at that higher price, but if it's something he does end up promoting hard I could definitely see the negativity in that and I'll kinda feel bad for having promoted it. 
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 15, 2010, 05:09:41 pm
I honestly didn't even pay much attention to what the offer consisted of and I didn't know he had advertised a price raise.  I'm not exactly sure what his intentions are but from a marketing perspective one could argue the price jump to $97  is more about creating value and some semblance of urgency rather than actually promoting and expecting future sales at $97.

yeah I had thought about that, as that tactic is used very often, especially by AlexM. If that's the case, then it definitely changes things a bit, Taylor would come off as being less of a slimebag, BUT, that still fits the definition of scam. Lying to your customers/potential customers isn't the best idea.

I expect him to actually charge for the product though, once 500 is reached, that's just the vibe i get.


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In fact just based on what I know about selling stuff online I'd be surprised if a single person ended up buying that package at that higher price, but if it's something he does end up promoting hard I could definitely see the negativity in that and I'll kinda feel bad for having promoted it.  

That's good to know, hopefully i'm wrong about him, though I'm never wrong on these issues. :)

If Allan provides proof that he donated the 10k to a reputable Haiti Relief Fund, and doesn't price gouge his product, i'd publicly apologize to him in this thread. I've yet to publicly apologize to anyone though because 100% of the time they fail to prove themselves.

peace KB.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: ESav15 on May 15, 2010, 05:11:12 pm
I cared about Haiti.
But I enjoy kicking puppies from time to time. So what does it mean?



jk LOL!
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 15, 2010, 05:18:43 pm
I cared about Haiti.
But I enjoy kicking puppies from time to time. So what does it mean?



jk LOL!

well you can donate to haiti but not to a PETA fund.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: AlexV on May 15, 2010, 08:52:58 pm
I honestly didn't even pay much attention to what the offer consisted of and I didn't know he had advertised a price raise.  I'm not exactly sure what his intentions are but from a marketing perspective one could argue the price jump to $97  is more about creating value and some semblance of urgency rather than actually promoting and expecting future sales at $97.  In fact just based on what I know about selling stuff online I'd be surprised if a single person ended up buying that package at that higher price, but if it's something he does end up promoting hard I could definitely see the negativity in that and I'll kinda feel bad for having promoted it. 

That was my point as well.  I said I never knew of the price increase.  I am fairly certain the price increase is creating a sense of urgency.  I am also fairly certain few will buy it after the price hike.  Obviously he is closing the site down and relaunching without the mention of haiti (that is how I read what was written).

I just keep getting annoyed with the THEY and conspiracy theories.

There was no conspiracy.  The coaches involved wanted to help raise some money for haiti but now we are part of this conspiracy to scam.  Really?  WTF?
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 15, 2010, 09:19:47 pm
I honestly didn't even pay much attention to what the offer consisted of and I didn't know he had advertised a price raise.  I'm not exactly sure what his intentions are but from a marketing perspective one could argue the price jump to $97  is more about creating value and some semblance of urgency rather than actually promoting and expecting future sales at $97.  In fact just based on what I know about selling stuff online I'd be surprised if a single person ended up buying that package at that higher price, but if it's something he does end up promoting hard I could definitely see the negativity in that and I'll kinda feel bad for having promoted it. 

That was my point as well.  I said I never knew of the price increase.  I am fairly certain the price increase is creating a sense of urgency.  I am also fairly certain few will buy it after the price hike.  Obviously he is closing the site down and relaunching without the mention of haiti (that is how I read what was written).

I just keep getting annoyed with the THEY and conspiracy theories.

There was no conspiracy.  The coaches involved wanted to help raise some money for haiti but now we are part of this conspiracy to scam.  Really?  WTF?

I personally never said anything about a "conspiracy". Just because you aren't profiting from it in any way, doesn't mean someone else isn't trying to (Taylor Allan / Alex Maroko).  When I refer to his "marketing gurus" and "henchmen" im talking about the marketing minds behind these stunts, not the coaches who get sucked into it.

" Obviously he is closing the site down and relaunching without the mention of haiti (that is how I read what was written)."

LOL, how is that acceptable? That is so slimy man haha.. Make 10k then shut it down and relaunching the same product to make money. That is SO slimy & pathetic.

Could have donated 20k+ to haiti, but oh well, need a new lanzino and some legit spinners (fuck those plastic ones).

pc
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: AlexV on May 16, 2010, 02:29:20 pm
I personally never said anything about a "conspiracy". Just because you aren't profiting from it in any way, doesn't mean someone else isn't trying to (Taylor Allan / Alex Maroko).  When I refer to his "marketing gurus" and "henchmen" im talking about the marketing minds behind these stunts, not the coaches who get sucked into it.

" Obviously he is closing the site down and relaunching without the mention of haiti (that is how I read what was written)."

LOL, how is that acceptable? That is so slimy man haha.. Make 10k then shut it down and relaunching the same product to make money. That is SO slimy & pathetic.

Could have donated 20k+ to haiti, but oh well, need a new lanzino and some legit spinners (fuck those plastic ones).

pc

Adarq,

Dont worry I see your point.  My MAIN point was that it read like everyone was throwing the coaches that participated under the bus.  You cannot do that.

I do not think the price raise was mentioned to me, or based on kelly's quote to him either.

That is all.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 16, 2010, 04:17:55 pm
I personally never said anything about a "conspiracy". Just because you aren't profiting from it in any way, doesn't mean someone else isn't trying to (Taylor Allan / Alex Maroko).  When I refer to his "marketing gurus" and "henchmen" im talking about the marketing minds behind these stunts, not the coaches who get sucked into it.

" Obviously he is closing the site down and relaunching without the mention of haiti (that is how I read what was written)."

LOL, how is that acceptable? That is so slimy man haha.. Make 10k then shut it down and relaunching the same product to make money. That is SO slimy & pathetic.

Could have donated 20k+ to haiti, but oh well, need a new lanzino and some legit spinners (fuck those plastic ones).

pc

Adarq,

Dont worry I see your point.  My MAIN point was that it read like everyone was throwing the coaches that participated under the bus.  You cannot do that.


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I do not think the price raise was mentioned to me, or based on kelly's quote to him either.

That is all.

right, that's the only thing i have a problem with, the price raise in general, and for him not to tell you guys that is foul..

i'm definitely not dissing the act of donating 10k or the coaches that helped put it together.

edit: I clarified the "they" I had in there.

pc
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 18, 2010, 05:09:41 am
just found this funny..

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Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on May 18, 2010, 01:09:12 pm
just found this funny..

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Sounds worse than the perfect rep. DB Hammer scammers makes I-Bodybuilder look legit.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 23, 2010, 11:00:25 pm
"If you haven't taken action yet on this "deal of the decade,"
I'm really not sure what your waiting for. We need
massive action takers, who are dedicated to DOMINATING their
sport and helping other people. Athletes who take fast, decisive
action and crush it!

Not tire-kickers who hate giving to charity and don't invest in
their own athletic future.
"

lol that's a funny sentence.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on May 25, 2010, 02:19:33 pm
"I've got another coaching call for you today, with the "king of
quickness" Alex Maroko:


Alex is a fellow "young gun" in the sports training industry,who
has been killing it out of sheer speed. Not only "game speed"
but also speed of action and speed of implementation. Two huge
ingredients for success."


Fellow young gun in the sports training industry? Neither of you jabronies even train anyone.

Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 25, 2010, 02:26:29 pm
"I've got another coaching call for you today, with the "king of
quickness" Alex Maroko:


Alex is a fellow "young gun" in the sports training industry,who
has been killing it out of sheer speed. Not only "game speed"
but also speed of action and speed of implementation. Two huge
ingredients for success."


Fellow young gun in the sports training industry? Neither of you jabronies even train anyone.



Maroko called himself "maybe the fastest basketball player in all of Michigan" in that interview.....
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on May 25, 2010, 02:37:14 pm
Taylor asks him what motivated him to put out the TAQ program. Maroko rambles for the next 5 minutes instead of just saying money.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 25, 2010, 02:47:05 pm
Taylor asks him what motivated him to put out the TAQ program. Maroko rambles for the next 5 minutes instead of just saying money.

holdon i ganked an audio excerpt, gonna upload.

http://www.adarq.org/various_files/maroko_da_fastest.mp3

i just don't get how you can be the quickest player in michigan running a 5.1-5.5 40 etc..
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: mattyg35 on May 25, 2010, 02:56:55 pm
Here's a Maroko interview from January, if you haven't seen it already.
http://www.sprintstrong.com/2010/01/alex-maroko-interview.html (http://www.sprintstrong.com/2010/01/alex-maroko-interview.html)

Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on May 25, 2010, 03:05:58 pm
Here's a Maroko interview from January, if you haven't seen it already.
http://www.sprintstrong.com/2010/01/alex-maroko-interview.html (http://www.sprintstrong.com/2010/01/alex-maroko-interview.html)



lol @ "I'm also kinda funny and a little cocky -- most people like it, but I can rub people the wrong way once in a while with my unwavering honesty :-)"
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: LBSS on May 25, 2010, 06:30:00 pm
My question, and maybe KellyB is the best to answer this cause he's actually sold stuff online using the single-long-page approach* and knows the system, is, what kind of volume of business are these guys doing? The internet guru marketers, that is. Like Cressey, Boyle, Maroko, whomever. Assuming whats-his-face actually gets the $10K to donate and then starts selling at $97, how much will he bring in, realistically? This shit must work because tons of people do it, but how well does it work?


*Note: not hating on him in any way, although those sales pages drive me insane. VJDB is a sick book.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: AlexV on May 25, 2010, 08:20:50 pm
My question, and maybe KellyB is the best to answer this cause he's actually sold stuff online using the single-long-page approach* and knows the system, is, what kind of volume of business are these guys doing? The internet guru marketers, that is. Like Cressey, Boyle, Maroko, whomever. Assuming whats-his-face actually gets the $10K to donate and then starts selling at $97, how much will he bring in, realistically? This shit must work because tons of people do it, but how well does it work?


*Note: not hating on him in any way, although those sales pages drive me insane. VJDB is a sick book.

Not kelly but,

Most of the sales come from the initial push so if taylor ever gets to the 10k, there will likely be very little else coming in from the $97 price raise (What?  Taylor isn't going in to be bringin' in the benji's after the 10k?).  But seriously most sales are within the first few weeks.

A solid content first site can continue to bring in extra $ but no where near the launch.

That may be why you see some people constantly marketing different products.  Trying to capitalize on the initial launch of a new product.

What it Taylor's true benefit off of this?

IMO it is building an email list

It is not, and never has been, about the $97 launch to make $.  IMO (I am not Taylor) it is an opportunity to raise $ for charity and build his list simultaneously via giving away the free podcasts. 

Note there were no list trades or any such thing.

Personally I am trying to establish EA as a content driven site first, kinda like KellyB's site.  When people think of EA they will think good info first with a decent message board.

Alex
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on June 09, 2010, 03:39:52 pm
Yeah definitely
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: Raptor on September 14, 2010, 09:14:20 am
I think you gotta be very naive to think the guy is going to wait for 500 people to donate bla bla bla... if I were a scumbag, maybe I'd wait for like 10-20 donations and raise the price, or at least follow my predetermined plan (50 donations, whatever). 500 is too much. I'd probably raise the price when I think it's the moment to do it, regardless of the numbers. Who's going to verify anyway.

Heck, I'd pretend the price has rose from the first donation, but that maybe would stop people from subscribing and members number to increase.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: Royal on September 14, 2010, 08:07:17 pm
The initial launch actually gives him a lot of dough in the amount of time he does in the pre-release. I heard Flying in Four got like $24k or so in the first couple of weeks and TAQ has gotten about 40k in total so far. I don't know where I got the numbers since it was a while ago on some article about young entrepreneurs on the internet.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: Raptor on September 15, 2010, 01:24:15 am
Damn, I need to write a program then!
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on September 15, 2010, 02:23:34 am
out of curiosity, which fund did taylor allen donate too? never heard much about that..

peace
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: Raptor on September 15, 2010, 03:35:22 am
out of curiosity, which fund did taylor allen donate too? never heard much about that..

peace

You and your questions...

Just donate and be happy for doing a good job! ;D
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on September 15, 2010, 03:49:34 am
out of curiosity, which fund did taylor allen donate too? never heard much about that..

peace

You and your questions...

Just donate and be happy for doing a good job! ;D

i'm legitimately curious man lol... i remember commenting back then that it would be cool if he told us which charity he donated too etc when he does it, never heard anything about it though... hehe!!!!!
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: Raptor on September 15, 2010, 04:02:36 am
What if he never donated and took the money?
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on September 15, 2010, 04:06:42 am
What if he never donated and took the money?

that'd be pretty shitty
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on September 15, 2010, 06:54:02 pm
We all know the answer to that question
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: zgin on September 15, 2010, 07:53:38 pm
i just don't get how you can be the quickest player in michigan running a 5.1-5.5 40 etc..


bahahha   ;D
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: imgrindin247 on October 13, 2010, 10:44:51 pm
I only know of Taylor Allan through his Prolific Shooting Program, so I'm not sure about the whole Athletic Domination Expo saga.  I can say that he does appear to have good solid Basketball skills and does appear to practice what he preach.  He can shoot the Basketball and he has turned himself into a pretty good athlete as well.  It's just his marketing that I can't get past.  I've seen him have like 20 other websites with the same kind of theme and a similar product branded under a different name.  I can't speak for his products, because I don't know what they're like, but he does appear to be upfront and honest about his own credentials.  The marketing of his stuff is just over the top and comes off as a cash grab.  The free info he has given out has been pretty good for the most part though.  I think his reputation is very much up in the air and it's hard for me to lean one way or another without having viewed one of his products.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on October 19, 2010, 09:27:24 pm
Did you ever email you the picture of his "proof"?
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on October 19, 2010, 09:44:16 pm
Did you ever email you the picture of his "proof"?

did "he"? yes.. was a picture of some bank account #, like $3000, with no details just the amount in paypal.. so if that's proof, then he sent it... lol
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on October 19, 2010, 09:47:46 pm
Did you ever email you the picture of his "proof"?

did "he"? yes.. was a picture of some bank account #, like $3000, with no details just the amount in paypal.. so if that's proof, then he sent it... lol

yes he. "Haiti needs our money fast"
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on October 19, 2010, 09:50:11 pm
Did you ever email you the picture of his "proof"?

did "he"? yes.. was a picture of some bank account #, like $3000, with no details just the amount in paypal.. so if that's proof, then he sent it... lol

yes he. "Haiti needs our money fast"

fast is relative, i think he was referring to fast as in the evolution of our planet since it's inception after big bang until now, that did happen fast in the grand scheme of things, but it took millions of years by our standards.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on December 19, 2010, 04:35:14 pm
bump, donated? probably not..
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: Raptor on December 19, 2010, 05:20:49 pm
bump, donated? probably not..

What? Semen?
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on December 19, 2010, 05:58:44 pm
bump, donated? probably not..

What? Semen?

MONEY FOR HAITI..
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: Raptor on December 19, 2010, 06:15:34 pm
bump, donated? probably not..

What? Semen?

MONEY FOR HAITI..


Oh, right...

I still hold my original assumption.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: D-Rose Jr on January 17, 2011, 05:53:22 pm
IDK about any of this but the guy is not that bad. His basketball stuff is just too nasty. (Personal Experience) It gives results. He has helped in regards to shooting and scoring.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on January 17, 2011, 05:55:27 pm
IDK about any of this but the guy is not that bad. His basketball stuff is just too nasty. (Personal Experience) It gives results. He has helped in regards to shooting and scoring.

his shooting vid didn't look bad at all, sure, but our beef with him is over the haiti donations.. he still has not donated the 3k he got.. it's been over a year since the incident..

so our initial concerns were proven to be true.

glad his programs have helped your shooting/scoring etc, peace
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: Raptor on January 18, 2011, 03:33:29 am
Well maybe he quantified them into goats... who knows :uhhhfacepalm:
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: D-Rose Jr on January 18, 2011, 02:42:24 pm
that is kinda sketchy though
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on February 15, 2011, 12:35:31 am
SHAME ON EVERYONE WHO CLICKED "NO" IN THIS POLL, SMH..

"My good friend Taylor Allan has just put together an awesome package that shows you a simple, step-by-step method to become an unstoppable scorer on the basketball court... and finally become the "go-to player" on your team...  ... And it includes the "Scorer's Cheat Sheet" that outlines  EVERYTHING you need to do to score more points - very cool stuff."

"Taylor is a world-class trainer and best-selling author whose programs have transformed thousands of basketball players around the world."


know what though?

HE STILL HASN'T DONATED TO HAITI THIS SCUMBAG SHOULD BE ARRESTED.

HE STILL HASN'T DONATED TO HAITI THIS SCUMBAG SHOULD BE ARRESTED.
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HE STILL HASN'T DONATED TO HAITI THIS SCUMBAG SHOULD BE ARRESTED.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: Raptor on February 15, 2011, 03:19:09 am
Anybody who expected he will donate should be arrested for stupidity.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on February 15, 2011, 03:29:48 am
Anybody who expected he will donate should be arrested for stupidity.

people need to listen2adarq.org
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: XxZxX on February 17, 2011, 02:09:55 am
Taylor Allan and Team FraudUSA on the move again...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cut from the team a year ago, one determined punk baller got sweet revenge :
 
Here, Team JumpUSA Basketball Trainer Taylor Allan makes it EASY for you :
How to double your scoring average in as little as a month -- using this technique from the Greatest Player of All Time..
 
 
A killer scoring move you can use right away
 
 
Hurry, because it gets taken down tonight.
 
Enjoy,
Team JumpUSA
 
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The loser never even play for college varsity and already wanted to be a trainer. Anybody can dig up his portfolio?? So far all he only play for High school varsity.. BIG DEAL.

Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: JoelJ on February 19, 2011, 07:07:29 pm
Basing your sales pitch around donations and then not donating the money is a low thing to do.

Taylor Allan and Team FraudUSA on the move again...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cut from the team a year ago, one determined punk baller got sweet revenge :
 
Here, Team JumpUSA Basketball Trainer Taylor Allan makes it EASY for you :
How to double your scoring average in as little as a month -- using this technique from the Greatest Player of All Time..
 
 
A killer scoring move you can use right away
 
 
Hurry, because it gets taken down tonight.
 
Enjoy,
Team JumpUSA
 
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The loser never even play for college varsity and already wanted to be a trainer. Anybody can dig up his portfolio?? So far all he only play for High school varsity.. BIG DEAL.



He's getting techniques from Jordan? shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite!
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on February 19, 2011, 11:46:47 pm
pretty sure he played for a D2 college, doesn't change the fact that he's a douchebag scammer though, who still hasn't donated to haiti, who used a natural disaster to make a name.

pathetic individual.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on February 21, 2011, 03:47:10 am
taylor allan teams up with tyler ray........ tyler prolly don't know taylor allan still hasn't donated to haiti.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIzgiLEhSIg&feature=feedu

leave a comment




"

taylor allan still hasn't donated to haiti...... from? his athletic domination expo..... the money is just sitting in his paypal....... perhaps his system is good but he's a douchebag...... he said he'd provide proof when he donates, he's yet to donate, he has $3000 sitting in his paypal that should have gone to haiti 1? year ago..... he used a natural disaster to build a name.....

he's a bum
adarqui 1 minute ago "


.......

Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: Raptor on February 21, 2011, 05:54:43 am
Programs these days are more and more fake by the minute.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on February 21, 2011, 07:31:17 pm
not sure who is posting these pictures but it's pretty funny

http://www.adarq.org/forum/the-hole/deserves-a-statue-because/
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: XxZxX on February 21, 2011, 10:22:25 pm
not sure who is posting these pictures but it's pretty funny

http://www.adarq.org/forum/the-hole/deserves-a-statue-because/

the pictures itself deserve a statue.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on February 22, 2011, 03:11:11 pm
And yet I was the bad guy for calling him out on dbhammer.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on February 22, 2011, 04:29:46 pm
And yet I was the bad guy for calling him out on dbhammer.

same, for calling him out here.

 :highfive:
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on March 01, 2011, 01:16:38 am
He still hasn't donated the money, and now since he's throwing in the "domination expo" in with his basketball program, how the hell does he plan on getting to 10,000? The money is never going to be donated.

(http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/1239868/stone-cold-laughing-o.gif)


And to think, we were originally just mad cause he was using the tragedy for marketing, but we still thought he would actually donate the money. He's even worse than we thought.

Told you he was a douchebag AlexV.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on March 01, 2011, 01:18:27 am
He still hasn't donated the money, and now since he's throwing in the "domination expo" in with his basketball program, how the hell does he plan on getting to 10,000? The money is never going to be donated.

(http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/1239868/stone-cold-laughing-o.gif)


And to think, we were originally just mad cause he was using the tragedy for marketing, but we still thought he would actually donate the money. He's even worse than we thought.

Told you he was a douchebag AlexV.

x2.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: AlexV on March 03, 2011, 07:41:01 pm
Told you he was a douchebag AlexV.

All I can say is this:

I give everyone the benefit of the doubt.  So taylor got the benefit of the doubt too.

And now I am disappointed.  

Personally I would have given away free stuff and asked people to email proof of their donation to their charity.  Like a screen capture and I would have sent out a free copy of something in return.

Oh and in your signature:  How are Joe Trinsey and Myself affiliated with Maroko?
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on March 03, 2011, 08:09:42 pm
Told you he was a douchebag AlexV.

Oh and in your signature:  How are Joe Trinsey and Myself affiliated with Maroko?


I don't like Joe Trinsey  :)

With you, you said you planned on working with the "henchmen" for marketing a product. If you aren't I'll remove you from my signature and add you to approved coaches.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on March 03, 2011, 08:25:50 pm
Told you he was a douchebag AlexV.

All I can say is this:

I give everyone the benefit of the doubt.  So taylor got the benefit of the doubt too.

And now I am disappointed.  

giving benefit of doubt to maroko & co -> not good

yup we're all disappointed.



Quote
Personally I would have given away free stuff and asked people to email proof of their donation to their charity.  Like a screen capture and I would have sent out a free copy of something in return.

yup that's what we said many times on here.. that would have been the only acceptable way of going about it.

based on all of the evidence we can see, he had bad intentions from the start, that's for sure.



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Oh and in your signature:  How are Joe Trinsey and Myself affiliated with Maroko?

Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: AlexV on March 04, 2011, 12:44:11 am
Told you he was a douchebag AlexV.

Oh and in your signature:  How are Joe Trinsey and Myself affiliated with Maroko?


I don't like Joe Trinsey  :)

With you, you said you planned on working with the "henchmen" for marketing a product. If you aren't I'll remove you from my signature and add you to approved coaches.

I have no plans
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: lebronjames23 on March 07, 2011, 09:32:11 am
i wasted my bucks and actually i was stupid enough to let my mom buy his Scoring Secrets shit for my bday :-[ but i got it for only 47  :P but still, i can buy a ps3 game for that. but yeah, all i can say is, you can be a great scorer without Taylor Allan. His fake program is very limited that you actually realize you bought yourself something from a depressed bssketball player whofailed to fulfill his dreams. im not sayin hes not good, he actually is but nowhere near d1 ncaa players.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: imgrindin247 on March 11, 2011, 10:59:33 am
i wasted my bucks and actually i was stupid enough to let my mom buy his Scoring Secrets shit for my bday :-[ but i got it for only 47  :P but still, i can buy a ps3 game for that. but yeah, all i can say is, you can be a great scorer without Taylor Allan. His fake program is very limited that you actually realize you bought yourself something from a depressed bssketball player whofailed to fulfill his dreams. im not sayin hes not good, he actually is but nowhere near d1 ncaa players.

Could you give a brief breakdown of what's included?  How is it set up?  Do you download the videos or have a members area where you stream stuff?  I've always wondered what these programs look like that he's selling, but of course there's no chance I'm paying a penny for it.

He seems to be able to play a bit.  Can shoot the ball pretty well and seems fairly athletic as well.  When I saw some of his videos of him playing 1 on 1 though, it seemed like it was staged making every hesitation or fake of his work on his defender.  Still, a placebo effect is a strong thing.  If you believe in his program and you're actually improving, then it's still working for you.  It's just that you could probably design your own program all the same and get the same or better results.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: XxZxX on March 11, 2011, 06:32:21 pm
great news for Taylor Allan, new earthquake, new relief funds for the scam.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on March 11, 2011, 07:00:20 pm
great news for Taylor Allan, new earthquake, new relief funds for the scam.

LMAO.............................................................

god that is a beast post.
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: TheSituation on March 12, 2011, 01:33:31 am
great news for Taylor Allan, new earthquake, new relief funds for the scam.

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Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on April 06, 2011, 07:37:06 am
great news for Taylor Allan, new earthquake, new relief funds for the scam.

(http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/1936/30sy9hv.gif)















































(http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu97/waluigis/044159e6e0b6bbae9a223ead74efee75883a7b7.gif)

ahahahaha, my reaction..






... YOU STILL DIDN'T DONATE TO HAITI, PERIOD.

(http://i52.tinypic.com/2rnbiib.jpg)
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: aiir on April 09, 2011, 12:38:55 pm
7-time ACC something....ahhahaha

still cracks me up
Title: Re: Taylor Allan aka allan22 : AthleticDominationExpo
Post by: adarqui on April 09, 2011, 08:46:53 pm
he still hasn't donated, listen to the main video on his site: http://prolificshooting.com/

can anyone get passed ~1min or so? his scammer voice just destroys my brain.