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Lifting vs. bw compared to lifting vs. BMI
« on: June 28, 2011, 03:13:12 am »
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So as a heavy and decently tall guy with fairly long arms, I often get met by smaller guys who wants to compare lifting numbers, but always to bw because theyre of course small and light.

I always respond that its not really a fair comparison unless you start comparing ROM as well, to which they never respond.

I know this has been talked over a lot, but I got tired and started thinking whats an easy way to compare between different people. Lance linked me this at some point: http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html

That site seems a good way to me.

Other than that Ive thought of comparing strength to BMI. BMI consider you height as well as you weight, and although it does not take into calculation the factor of long levers, it seems better to me than just comparing to weight. And even though it doesnt consider levers, taller persons tend to have longer legs, arms and torsos.

Just a thoughts on a day where I try to complete my last exam assignment before summer break.

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Re: Lifting vs. bw compared to lifting vs. BMI
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 11:37:10 am »
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interesting thought about bmi. i kind of like it.

the tables on exrx are a joke, though. look at them closely, they make no sense. how is an advanced 315 pound lifter only lifting 10 pounds more than an advanced 275 pound lifter? how is a 250 pound squat at 165 in any way intermediate?
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Re: Lifting vs. bw compared to lifting vs. BMI
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2011, 01:54:42 pm »
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  Those tables are pretty clear on what novice, intermediate, advanced, and elite mean, and pretty accurate for full lifts without gear.  Between Pendlay, Rippetoe, and Kilgore, I would imagine they have a pretty decent handle on what constitutes what for the different categories. 


Untrained

    Expected level of strength in a healthy individual who has not trained on the exercise before but can perform it correctly. This represents the minimum level of strength required to maintain a reasonable quality of life in a sedentary individual.

Novice

    A person training regularly for a period of 3-9 months. This strength level supports the demands of vigorous recreational activities.

Intermediate

    A person who has engaged in regular training for up to two years. The intermediate level indicates some degree of specialization in the exercises and a high level of performance at the recreational level.
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Re: Lifting vs. bw compared to lifting vs. BMI
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2011, 05:09:34 pm »
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I'm leaning towards advanced squat  :o  :headbang:
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Re: Lifting vs. bw compared to lifting vs. BMI
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2011, 08:11:31 am »
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yeah same. Just into advanced squat and deadlift. Intermediate presses. Sounds about right I guess.

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Re: Lifting vs. bw compared to lifting vs. BMI
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2011, 07:31:14 pm »
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interesting thought about bmi. i kind of like it.

the tables on exrx are a joke, though. look at them closely, they make no sense. how is an advanced 315 pound lifter only lifting 10 pounds more than an advanced 275 pound lifter? how is a 250 pound squat at 165 in any way intermediate?

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Re: Lifting vs. bw compared to lifting vs. BMI
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2011, 07:31:59 pm »
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interesting thought about bmi. i kind of like it.

the tables on exrx are a joke, though. look at them closely, they make no sense. how is an advanced 315 pound lifter only lifting 10 pounds more than an advanced 275 pound lifter? how is a 250 pound squat at 165 in any way intermediate?

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Re: Lifting vs. bw compared to lifting vs. BMI
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2011, 08:40:23 pm »
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This debate is new

Oh wait... Discussed wilks scores in there

http://www.adarq.org/forum/strength-power-reactivity-speed-discussion/if-you're-under-6-feet-your-relative-strength-is-irrelevant/

Of course tychver found his way into this topic again  :D. Still haven't seen one person put a wilks score in their youtube title.
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Re: Lifting vs. bw compared to lifting vs. BMI
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2011, 11:31:27 pm »
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This debate is new

Oh wait... Discussed wilks scores in there

http://www.adarq.org/forum/strength-power-reactivity-speed-discussion/if-you're-under-6-feet-your-relative-strength-is-irrelevant/

Of course tychver found his way into this topic again  :D. Still haven't seen one person put a wilks score in their youtube title.

I think you'll find a lot of powerlifting comp videos list their wilks score or what ever is used in their fed in the description. Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTXYHBwZSEk

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Re: Lifting vs. bw compared to lifting vs. BMI
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2011, 05:17:11 am »
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4'11- wtf thats extremely small.