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Re: Curing jumper's knee?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2012, 02:22:43 pm »
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ask a qualified PT.

Why waste money (like 150 a session) when he can fix it himself? If he actually has jumper's knee it's relatively easy to fix.


true, although (A) no one knows whether he's actually got jumper's knee, including him; (B) the point still stands about seeing one if he hasn't gotten better in a couple of months; and (C) if he's got insurance, and as a student i assume he does, it wouldn't cost $150. laws and different about this stuff state-by-state but i've never paid more than $20 out of pocket for PT.

all that aside, it was more a comment on the request for an e-diagnosis from strangers than anything else.

That's true, because a torn meniscus has a lot of the same symptoms. If none of the "cures" work after 2-3 weeks or so, seeing a PT is a good idea.

That's weird how it was only 20 dollars for you. It was 100ish when I saw one a few years ago and I had insurance.

Also, I disagree with Kelly that it always has to do with weak hamstrings. For me, strengthening my VMO and working on ankle mobility helped mine from coming back. Unfortunately, you can't really strengthen your VMO without deep squattish movements, so you'd have to wait until your jumper's knee went away to start with that.
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Re: Curing jumper's knee?
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2012, 04:54:17 pm »
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  The vmo can definitely be an issue, especially dependent on the training background.  Single leg squats can help if they dont aggravate the injury due to the instability, forcing the vmo to work harder and contribute more, even with reduced rom.  However, most of the time the vmo issues tend to show up in guys that have been deadlifting/box squatting/squatting high or parallel in my experience and not nearly as frequently in athletes that have been full squatting for the majority of their training.

 Its fairly rare to see someone who has been squatting full have much of an issue with the vmo, and much more common for them to have a hamstring issue, especially at the knee end of the spectrum.  High rep hamstring curls done with a high frequency are unbelievably effective for this, giving both a tonic blood flow effect to the knee and prehab as well. Doing things like rdl's and deadlifts dont work as well in this case as it tends to hit more at the hip joint rather than the knee end.


lbss brings up a good point too, be careful taking random advice on injuries from someone on the internet.  Its always good to hear different peoples experiences with similar situations, but there are a lot of people who go around reading different articles/forums online, then state what they read as fact, without any prior experience or knowledge of what they are speaking about.

 
As far as dreyth in this case, if you dont remember a specific time and place you felt the knee "give" or "shift", or any type of acute pain/injury, the odds are in favor of a tendonitis issue but thats definitely not fool proof.  The way you squat would definitely favor the vmo and overall quad development if I was making an educated guess at it, and you may very likely need to do some remedial hamstring work at the KNEE END.  If money is an issue then trying that while making sure mobility and soft tissue work is up to par first, if not then getting a professional to look at it is always a good idea.
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Re: Curing jumper's knee?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2012, 05:41:31 am »
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I'm curious to see Dryeth low bar squat :P

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Re: Curing jumper's knee?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2012, 09:03:11 pm »
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I'm curious to see Dryeth low bar squat :P

I used to do it actually.


update, did tons of foam rolling and hip flexor stretching and hip mobility work before squatting.
pain was almost non-existent! also definitely noticed a difference while playing basketball afterward. Two full court games, I wanted to hang on the rim to see how much pain I would have but I resisted the temptation.
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