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Re: Another terrorist attack in the world
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2016, 07:49:17 pm »
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Tragic event and again I cant believe the uninformed fear mongering coming from Trump and his camp. First the dude in Orlando who was going through psychosis/ identity crisis and now this guy who seems to be a unaffiliated looney are spurring on reactionary responses. He's calling for open war, closing borders and questioning people's beliefs based on two horrific events. All under his crazy egotistical view that he's warned us that this will happen and only get worse despite the events being unrelated to any specific threat. I just don't get how he isn't called out in terms of "so if you were president you would've already responded unjustly twice under false premises."??

Just to put it in historical terms it's similar to GWB going to war against Iraq on the premise of them having WODs. Referencing back to the class I took on Middle Eastern politics, Saddam and Assad (while not saints) were progressive Nationalists compared to the other factions seeking power in the ME. You can make the claim that the instability caused from removing Saddam from power has caused most of insurgency, chaos, and radical factions to emerge in the past 13 years.

I feel like Hillary is very aware of this with her talks of relying on intelligence but sometimes I worry that she gets caught up too much in public opinion and what the others are saying. Just let Trump keep responding straight off the bat with his fear mongering without falling in line with those hardline views.

Edit- I said he's totally unaffiliated, can't find any source of that so waiting for more info. But he doesn't seem to be directly affiliated.

Yes all those radical Jews, Buddhists and Christians are at it again...
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Re: Another terrorist attack in the world
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2016, 08:08:16 pm »
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LBSS, you're ignorant. You're not reading what I've written.

You tried (and failed) to compare the number of miles a vehicle travels per vehicle-related death as being equal to firearm deaths. It's a blatant false equivalency, but you don't seem to care.

Most firearm deaths are suicides, so whether guns are relevant in those situations is debatable, and would depend on the case in question.

Regulation is a form of punishment via time and money, and any other metrics one wishes to consider.

You seem to be ignoring what I've written. The majority of gun owners are law abiding, and all the regulation you continue to harp about won't help correct the issue of who is committing these crimes, as it isn't the law abiding firearm owners.
Simply put, you're barking up the wrong tree. But go ahead, keep ignoring the data, and continue with your progressive agenda, it's the only thing that you seem to care about.
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Re: Another terrorist attack in the world
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2016, 09:32:06 pm »
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Tragic event and again I cant believe the uninformed fear mongering coming from Trump and his camp. First the dude in Orlando who was going through psychosis/ identity crisis and now this guy who seems to be a unaffiliated looney are spurring on reactionary responses. He's calling for open war, closing borders and questioning people's beliefs based on two horrific events. All under his crazy egotistical view that he's warned us that this will happen and only get worse despite the events being unrelated to any specific threat. I just don't get how he isn't called out in terms of "so if you were president you would've already responded unjustly twice under false premises."??

Just to put it in historical terms it's similar to GWB going to war against Iraq on the premise of them having WODs. Referencing back to the class I took on Middle Eastern politics, Saddam and Assad (while not saints) were progressive Nationalists compared to the other factions seeking power in the ME. You can make the claim that the instability caused from removing Saddam from power has caused most of insurgency, chaos, and radical factions to emerge in the past 13 years.

I feel like Hillary is very aware of this with her talks of relying on intelligence but sometimes I worry that she gets caught up too much in public opinion and what the others are saying. Just let Trump keep responding straight off the bat with his fear mongering without falling in line with those hardline views.

Edit- I said he's totally unaffiliated, can't find any source of that so waiting for more info. But he doesn't seem to be directly affiliated.

Yes all those radical Jews, Buddhists and Christians are at it again...

Just off the top of my head Nazi Germany killed +3mil Jews bro. That was a Christian nation under radical racist views. I can find evidence for members of all those religions killing. That wasn't even my point.

My point was this guy, and it's becoming more clear now was seriously mentally ill. His own father said he would have nervous breakdowns and be extremely aggressive. Similar to the Orlando shooter. It just happens that they were Muslim and in their delusional breakdown yelled Allah Akhbar.

But instead of hearing that story we get politicians calling for war, closing borders and being reactionary. They're using people's fears to act in a detrimental way against what's best for society. I used the GWB example bc he claimed he would bring Democracy to Iraq but instead set back the country and their natural road to progress and it's now a lot more unstable that it was.

Also in terms of closing borders to Syrian immigrants, the US has a very good system of bringing in brainpower and needed workforce. Why change that because you're scared of one rogue mind. We can bring in doctors, nurses, etc who can save many more lives that any terrorist can take.
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Re: Another terrorist attack in the world
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2016, 09:32:30 pm »
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i wish, truly, that i could figure out how to get you to even attempt to listen to what i'm trying to say. it makes me sad to be talking past you.

you brought up the car comparison by making a joke about liberals now wanting to ban trucks, or something along those lines, and then posting those two wikipedia links. my point is that cars are dangerous, and guns are dangerous. but we regulate the shit out of cars and do basically fuck-all to regulate guns. and that makes no sense.

i'm trying to address what you've written. you have decided that progressives want to punish gun owners, which is not true, and not what we're talking about.
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Re: Another terrorist attack in the world
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2016, 09:35:33 pm »
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mutumb000, there ARE radical buddhists at it again, all the fucking time, in myanmar. persecuting the shit out of the muslim minority in that country.

radical ANY belief is dangerous. there's nothing special about islam in that regard.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
monday: strength/cross training
tuesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
wednesday: fartlek (mostly easy pace with mix of strides, hills, long tempo) 45 mins (8+ km)
thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
- hops 2x10
- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
- squats 3x6-8 or weighted BSS/lunges 3x10/leg
- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
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Re: Another terrorist attack in the world
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2016, 08:28:28 pm »
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Tragic event and again I cant believe the uninformed fear mongering coming from Trump and his camp. First the dude in Orlando who was going through psychosis/ identity crisis and now this guy who seems to be a unaffiliated looney are spurring on reactionary responses. He's calling for open war, closing borders and questioning people's beliefs based on two horrific events. All under his crazy egotistical view that he's warned us that this will happen and only get worse despite the events being unrelated to any specific threat. I just don't get how he isn't called out in terms of "so if you were president you would've already responded unjustly twice under false premises."??

Just to put it in historical terms it's similar to GWB going to war against Iraq on the premise of them having WODs. Referencing back to the class I took on Middle Eastern politics, Saddam and Assad (while not saints) were progressive Nationalists compared to the other factions seeking power in the ME. You can make the claim that the instability caused from removing Saddam from power has caused most of insurgency, chaos, and radical factions to emerge in the past 13 years.

I feel like Hillary is very aware of this with her talks of relying on intelligence but sometimes I worry that she gets caught up too much in public opinion and what the others are saying. Just let Trump keep responding straight off the bat with his fear mongering without falling in line with those hardline views.

Edit- I said he's totally unaffiliated, can't find any source of that so waiting for more info. But he doesn't seem to be directly affiliated.

Yes all those radical Jews, Buddhists and Christians are at it again...

Just off the top of my head Nazi Germany killed +3mil Jews bro. That was a Christian nation under radical racist views. I can find evidence for members of all those religions killing. That wasn't even my point.

My point was this guy, and it's becoming more clear now was seriously mentally ill. His own father said he would have nervous breakdowns and be extremely aggressive. Similar to the Orlando shooter. It just happens that they were Muslim and in their delusional breakdown yelled Allah Akhbar.

But instead of hearing that story we get politicians calling for war, closing borders and being reactionary. They're using people's fears to act in a detrimental way against what's best for society. I used the GWB example bc he claimed he would bring Democracy to Iraq but instead set back the country and their natural road to progress and it's now a lot more unstable that it was.

Also in terms of closing borders to Syrian immigrants, the US has a very good system of bringing in brainpower and needed workforce. Why change that because you're scared of one rogue mind. We can bring in doctors, nurses, etc who can save many more lives that any terrorist can take.



It's too late to close borders now. A large % of the terrorists are homegrown. I'm not sure what the solution is. As for fixing war-torn countries by bringing in doctors, nurses, engineers etc. you can't do any of that until there is a reasonable amount of peace and stability.
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Re: Another terrorist attack in the world
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2017, 03:26:16 am »
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this is *BAD* HEH. if authentic, curious to see how CNN would try and spin this... seems impossible.

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You'd expect lots of people to be fired over that.. no?

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Re: Another terrorist attack in the world
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2017, 03:40:41 am »
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/multiple-people-injured-after-shooting-in-alexandria/2017/06/14/0289c768-50f6-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.83689863a94a

Some thoughts on this shooting:

Murder and attempted murder are wrong, period. Terrorism is wrong. Hodgkinson terrorized people yesterday, some of whom were just walking their fucking dog and minding their own business. Fuck him. I'm glad nobody died apart from him.

The fact that Hodgkinson was a Sanders supporter shows that, while the right wing is *much* more violent than the left in its rhetoric and actions, white male violence transcends politics. It comes from the left, right, and center. It comes in many forms, from this attempted murder of other white men to the murder of and assault on the people of Flint by Rick Snyder and company. It is, without a doubt, the greatest threat to the safety of people across the US.

Yesterday, a GOP representative said, without apparent irony, “I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric. The rhetoric has been outrageous – the finger-pointing, just the tone and the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters. Really, then, you know, some people react to things like that. They get angry as well. And then you fuel the fires."

Earlier this year, Steve Scalise said, of the Muslim ban, "It’s very prudent to say, 'Let’s be careful about who comes into our country to make sure that they’re not terrorists.'"

He and the other dipshit I quoted are part of a machine that relies on racist fearmongering and incitement to violence as a core part of its political strategy, and that has the disenfranchisement and impoverishment of many people as policy goals.

It's ironic that this shooting fell just after the one-year anniversary of the Pulse attack. In the aftermath of that horror, Scalise tweeted about his prayers going out to the families of the victims, and I replied to him that his prayers were as empty as the barrel of a gun that's been unloaded into the bodies of innocent people. Some random person found my tweet and liked it yesterday. It's still true, even now that someone put a bullet in his hip. Scalise has an A+ NRA rating. He deliberately works to make assaults like this likelier.

So it's hard not to blame these particular victims, in part, for what happened to them yesterday. Being brought face-to-face with the consequences of their policies seems a bit like comeuppance. Seems like the fear they must have felt was, in some way, well-earned. This is what happens when you steal and steal and steal from people and also make it easier to buy a gun than to get birth control.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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sunday: long very easy run 80+ mins @ 5:40+ (14+ km)
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tuesday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km)
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thursday: easy run 60+ mins @ 5:20-5:30 (11+ km), strength/cross-training
friday: rest
saturday: short tempo 6-8x500 @ sub-4:00 (7 km)

strength would be:
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- box jumps or ME SVJ 2x5
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- RDL/hypers 2x10-12 or SLRDL 2x10-12/leg
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Re: Another terrorist attack in the world
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2017, 04:27:17 pm »
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/multiple-people-injured-after-shooting-in-alexandria/2017/06/14/0289c768-50f6-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.83689863a94a

Some thoughts on this shooting:

Murder and attempted murder are wrong, period. Terrorism is wrong. Hodgkinson terrorized people yesterday, some of whom were just walking their fucking dog and minding their own business. Fuck him. I'm glad nobody died apart from him.

The fact that Hodgkinson was a Sanders supporter shows that, while the right wing is *much* more violent than the left in its rhetoric and actions, white male violence transcends politics. It comes from the left, right, and center. It comes in many forms, from this attempted murder of other white men to the murder of and assault on the people of Flint by Rick Snyder and company. It is, without a doubt, the greatest threat to the safety of people across the US.

Yesterday, a GOP representative said, without apparent irony, “I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric. The rhetoric has been outrageous – the finger-pointing, just the tone and the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters. Really, then, you know, some people react to things like that. They get angry as well. And then you fuel the fires."

Earlier this year, Steve Scalise said, of the Muslim ban, "It’s very prudent to say, 'Let’s be careful about who comes into our country to make sure that they’re not terrorists.'"

He and the other dipshit I quoted are part of a machine that relies on racist fearmongering and incitement to violence as a core part of its political strategy, and that has the disenfranchisement and impoverishment of many people as policy goals.

It's ironic that this shooting fell just after the one-year anniversary of the Pulse attack. In the aftermath of that horror, Scalise tweeted about his prayers going out to the families of the victims, and I replied to him that his prayers were as empty as the barrel of a gun that's been unloaded into the bodies of innocent people. Some random person found my tweet and liked it yesterday. It's still true, even now that someone put a bullet in his hip. Scalise has an A+ NRA rating. He deliberately works to make assaults like this likelier.

So it's hard not to blame these particular victims, in part, for what happened to them yesterday. Being brought face-to-face with the consequences of their policies seems a bit like comeuppance. Seems like the fear they must have felt was, in some way, well-earned. This is what happens when you steal and steal and steal from people and also make it easier to buy a gun than to get birth control.

A little late, but well said.


America is violent by proxy of our elected representatives. These politicians have been playing with fire for a long time, through our foreign policy and domestic policy (re gun control, drug war, profit prison system etc). Now we're at the point where we may have created our own political "ISIS" - mass shooters & followers of both parties willing to commit acts of violence against each other. We've got politicians talking about shooting at our government and body slamming reporters, shock jock radio hosts talking about get your muskets ready, democrats saying republicans are going to kill you, republicans saying democrats are trying to destroy America, celebrities talking about hanging or assassinating the president, our disgrace of a president attacking the free press & calling them the "enemy of the people", <insert thousands more>. I don't see it stopping any time soon. I only see it continuing to get worse. So much damage has been done the last 15 years. And to think, all of this damage has been created to win elections, satisfy special interests, ratings for MSM news outlets, make $$,

They've got the "people" turning on each other.. But at some point, the people are going to also turn on them, like we saw in the Hodgkinson attack. They have been playing with fire & it's not surprising that they will pay the price that "every day Americans" have been paying for quite some time.

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