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Title: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 07:46:46 pm
Did Jacqueline Kennedy murder JFK?.


Some of the most damning pieces of evidence for me is in the 2 images below.

She was the ONLY person in position to create the fatal bullet's trajectory. Take note of the debris ejecting from JFK's head.

(http://www.realityreviewed.com/z313%20adjusted.png)

You can see the ejection going (up/forwards), if you stare at the top of JFK's head, in the Nix gif image below.

(http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/nix.gif)

(http://www.realityreviewed.com/z313%20adjusted.png)

Neither the image or Nix gif contradict each other.


(http://jackiekilledjfk.webs.com/bullet%20trajectory.gif)



The amount and distribution of blood on JFK's shirt would to an extent back up the fact the fatal shot was fired from the left side of his head.

Jacqueline was sat too his left.

(http://www.realityreviewed.com/Photo_naraevid_CE394-3.jpg)


Did the bullet in fact exit his right ear?.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvkw93jfXaA


I find it very disturbing Jacqueline NEVER comforts her husband (0:12 - 0:17) from being hit with the first shot & why does she just stare at Gov. Connally all the time? (0:13 - 0:17). She failed on both accounts to comfort & get JFK out of the firing line or flag down any agent. Video below.

As he got hit with the initial shot, she doesn't even blink an eye lid. Her suspicious activity in the lead up to the fatal shot is actually a massive smoking gun not many people have caught on to.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-cri43ttTo


Also too me she seems to throw something down onto the backseat at (0:22).Her right hand follows it down the whole way. Her right hand is level with JFK's shoulder right after the fatal shot, it then proceeds down towards the backseat.

It seems she pulls an implement from out her left sleeve with her right hand, then down.

Watch her right hand closely (0:22).


Starting at about frame 290 (0:17), an obstruction comes into view at the bottom of the Zapruder video, covering Jackie's hand movements for some unknown reason. Watch the video from 0:16, just after this point the obstruction comes into frame, right at the bottom of the video. Use the pause button.

They literally snipped a piece of film from the top, or bottom of another part and taped it over.



Gun smoke (0:53). Could this smoke be from the muzzle of her gun?.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1PbgeBoQ4


Gun smoke 0:58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNrgzkjCNCE


Hugh Betzner.

Original Link: http://www.history-matters.com/analysis/Witness/witnessMap/Betzner.htm

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I started to wind my film again and I heard a loud noise. I thought that this noise was either a firecracker or a car has backfired. I looked up and it seemed like there was another loud noise in the matter of a few seconds. I looked down the street and I could see the President's car and another one and they looked like the cars were stopped. Then I saw a flash of pink like someone standing up and then sitting back down in the car. Then I ran around so I could look over the back of a monument and I either saw the following then or when I was standing back down on the corner of Elm Street. I cannot remember exactly where I was When I saw the following I heard at least two shots fired and I saw what looked like a firecracker going off in the President's car.My assumption for this was because I saw fragments going up in the air. I also saw a man in either the President's car or the car behind his and someone down in one of those carspulled what looked like a rifle. I also remember seeing what looked like a nickel revolver in someone's hand in the president's car or somewhere immediately around his car. Then the President's car sped on the underpass. Police and a lot of spectators started running up the hill on the opposite side of the street from me to a fence of wood. I assumed that that was where the shot was fired from at the time.


I was always looking for an alternative to Oswald & where the first shot was fired from, here it is, from behind the Stemmons freeway sign.

A concealed weapon in the trunk.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7-GnaK6aT4


Original Link: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/03/04/jacqueline-kennedy-murderer-jfk-murder-president-john-fitzgerald-kennedy-dr-neville
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 07:49:16 pm
Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.


Crash site.

We DON'T have a plane.


(http://www.nomoretyranny.org/gallery/gallery3-2.jpg)


(http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/flight93/crater_pl.jpg)


We DON'T have any bodies, passengers or luggage ("Rick King, Shankville volunteer? fireman").



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fU-FyKAL9A


We DO have a hole.


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_P1c45sgEBss/SLIYLOP7CzI/AAAAAAAAAA8/LBWgit8zNyI/S660/Shanksville+on+TV.bmp)


If you wanted to fake a plane crash site, where would you fake it?... Somewhere that already looks like a plane hit the ground?.

(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7836/shanksville1994flight93wu1.jpg)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUzrHHDu96U


9/11 Shanksville Eyewitness Susan McElwain.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gliHOhXYFQ


What did Susan McElwain see flying low over her van?.


The mystery does deepen.

A local says Shanksville crash photo is fake?.


(http://www.pittsburghlive.com/pages/terrorism/photogallery_yearlater/shanksville/3.jpg)



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Jeff: Val McClatchey... she has a famous photo.
Ms. Leverknight: It was a fake photo, because it didn't have a mushroom cloud.
Jeff: It what?
Ms. Leverknight: There was no mushroom cloud.
Jeff: So it was a fake photo?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.
Jeff: Her photo's faked?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.
Jeff: For what? For money?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.
Jeff: Why, do you know that for sure?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah!

Original Link: http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/


Most of you will know the famous ©opyrighted picture of Val McClatchey showing a mushroom cloud over the "crash-site" allegedly seconds after the crash of UA 93.

For an overview see the following pictures of an analysis provided from rumpl4skn.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2iu9IjXvzI/AAAAAAAABgk/Y_iKq9Fe68g/s1600/rumpl4skn-analysis2.gif)


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/S2ivLhVRv1I/AAAAAAAABgs/UgUGNzXtwHQ/s1600/rumpl4skn-analysis1.gif)

Note that in the pictures above the cloud fits perfect between the red an white barn. We will use them later as reference points for the diameter of the cloud. And please note that the shape of the cloud is quite sharp and clear.

Quote from: Val McClatchey

"It turns out to be the very first photo taken related. It’s -- timed it out -- it was approximately 5 seconds after impact that I snapped the photo."


Could the Shanksville crash photo be fake.



Is United 93 a 9/11 smoking gun?.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 08:03:36 pm
WTC 2.

No exit hole.

(http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/images/theholeinwtc2thatwasnotthere.jpg)



John Lear.

Original Link: http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/pilots.html

John Lear – Retired commercial airline pilot with over 19,000+ total hours flown in over 100 different types of planes for 10 different airlines in 60 different countries around the world. Flew for over 40 years. Holds every certificate ever offered by the FAA and has 23 different FAA type ratings. Held 17 world records including speed around the world in a Lear Jet Model 24, set in 1966. He was presented with the PATCO award for outstanding airmanship in 1968, and the Symons Wave memorial. Flight experience includes Boeing 707 and 727, McDonnell Douglas DC-8, Lockheed L-1011 and many others. Son of Bill Lear, founder of Lear Jet Corp.

* Audio interview with Rob Balsamo 3/9/07: Regarding the Flight Data Recorder information for Flight 77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon, released by the NTSB

John Lear: There's a lot things in that tape that came up, that if you're a pilot, you say, "Hey, wait a minute. That's bull****. That could never happen in a million years." ...

Rob Balsamo: What did you think about 9/11 after you saw it?

John Lear:Well, you know, five minutes after it happened, I knew that it was a scam. ... No Boeing 757 ever crashed into the Pentagon. No Boeing 757 ever crashed at Shanksville. ... And no Arab hijacker, ever in a million years, ever flew into the World Trade Center. And if you got 30 minutes I'll tell you exactly why he couldn't do it the first time. Now, I'd have trouble doing it the first time.

Rob Balsamo: Yeah, same here.

John Lear: Maybe if I had a couple tries to line up a few building, I could have done it. But certainly not the first time and certainly not at 500 or 600 miles an hour.

Rob Balsamo: Yeah, as a matter of fact, one of our members, he was a 737 Check Airman. He was in the sim at the time on September 11 and right after it happened they tried to duplicate it in the simulator and they said they couldn't do it. They were trying to hit the Towers and they couldn't do it. ...

John Lear:Yeah, it would be an amazing feat of airmanship. ...

John Lear: People ask, you know, why do I think that 9/11 was a scam. They say, "Why would the government do that?" And I said, there's three basic reasons. Number 1; they wanted to take away all our liberties and they had to pose a threat to do that. Number 2; they wanted a reason to go into Afghanistan. ... Then the third thing was we had to have a pretext for going into Iraq.


(http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=918&pictureid=8839)

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a0f5fc83a692.jpg)


Also, no black boxes officially recovered from ground zero.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 08:06:15 pm
9/11. Nuclear demolition of WTC 1 & WTC 2.


(http://sydney.edu.au/engineering/civil/latest/wtc_collapse2.jpg)


Original Link: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Nuclear_Demolition

Original Link: http://www.disclose.tv/forum/dimitri-khalezov-wtc-nuclear-demolition-full-playlist-t21675.html

Original Link: http://wtcdemolition.blogspot.com/


(http://www.layscience.net/files/wtc/2.jpg)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FNGWsjj_Y



Some say the Towers were bought down by 150 kiloton thermo-nuclear detonations placed 50 meters below the foundations under the granite rock. Only 200+ atmospheres of pressure can pulverise steel to dust the width of a human hair as well as 50k-100k degrees of heat. Why were the FBI? wearing Hazmat suits?. Why was the soil being recycled like Chernobyl?. Why all the radiation sickness covered up as asbestos and chemicals?.


150 kiloton thermo-nuclear detonation test charge (below).



(http://www.washoe.k12.nv.us/americanhistory/elementary/si_07_jpegs/Morss_underground%20testing.jpg)


Hundreds of 9/11 first responders die of cancer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxzwT-ICZ2g


The 9/11 rescue workers are falling victim to a higher than average rate of life threatening diseases. They blame it on their time spent in the giant dust clouds.



Fire?. Jet fuel?.

The majority of the 10,000 gallons of fuel was consumed on impact in the fireball. Jet fuel burns very quickly & we saw most of it burn off within the first 10 seconds. Most of the 2nd plane's jet fuel pretty much burned outside the tower anyway.

Taking into account at the rate which jet fuel burns, we would have to say it was office debris burning in the building's.

Maximum jet fuel burn temperature is 825 Celsius. Temperatures needed to melt structural steel is 1510 Celsius.

Compare this.

On February 13, 1975, the WTC North Tower was beset by a fire, which "burned at temperatures in excess of 700°C (1,292°F) for over three hours and spread over some 65 percent of the 11th floor, including the core, caused no serious structural damage to the steel structure. In particular, no trusses needed to be replaced."

Sources: New York Times, Saturday 15th February 1975

There is a first time for everything, but 2 building's simultaneously?. :rolleyes:


Emery Roth has already told us as much. They can withstand the impact of a passenger airliner & history tells us steel structured building's in the past have never collapsed due to fire.



What happens when a plane hits a building?. When Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was conducting his own investigation, he wanted to find out.

Military C-130 Hercules plane crashed into tower block in Iran NO COLLAPSE!.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=700sv2Y7USw
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 08:08:31 pm
Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura. Episode 8 - The 9/11 Pentagon Conspiracy.


Original Link: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6048856/Conspiracy.Theory.with.Jesse.Ventura.S02E08.The.911.Pentagon.Con

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Quote:**THIS EPISODE** Episode 8 - "The Pentagon"/"The 9/11 Pentagon Conspiracy"
Premieres Fri, December 17, 2010 at 10PM.


"The Pentagon". Ventura investigates the theory that a missile, and not a hijacked airliner, hit The Pentagon during the September 11 attacks.

"The 9/11 Pentagon Conspiracy".

The idea that a missile or explosives not a hijacked jetliner damaged the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 seems the most unlikely of 9/11 theories. That is, until you look at all the factors, which include eyewitness testimony, crime scene video, expert analysis and the question why, with 85 cameras trained on the building, have only five frames of crash footage have ever been released?.

Jesse Ventura leads a serious investigation into a tangled web of clues that some say are too sacred to even touch.


NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - SENSITIVE INFORMATION - 9/11 PENTAGON ATTACK.

Eyewitness accounts contradict the official flight path.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 08:10:07 pm
BP Oil Spill.

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura. Episode 7.

Original Link: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6030141/Conspiracy.Theory.with.Jesse.Ventura.S02E07.BP.Oil.Spill.HDTV.Xv


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**THIS EPISODE** Episode 7 - "BP Oil Spill"
Premieres Fri, December 10, 2010 at 10PM

Ventura looks into rumors that the Deepwater Horizon oil spill was a staged
event that was part of a government depopulation program, inspired by the
Hurricane Katrina disaster, to target the Louisiana coastline and its oil
reserves.


The Gulf oil disaster is WAR on we the people.



Original Link: http://web.mac.com/len15/WAR_on_We_The_People/WAR_on_We_The_People__The_Gulf_Oil_Attack_by_The_Rothschild_League_of_Investment_Bankers.html


(http://web.mac.com/len15/WAR_on_We_The_People/WAR_on_We_The_People__The_Gulf_Oil_Attack_by_The_Rothschild_League_of_Investment_Bankers_files/shapeimage_1.png)



30 Chilling Facts Proving We The People Are Under Attack, in an Undeclared War, With the Rothschild League of Bankers.

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1)The media is grossly censoring the extent of the devastation in the Gulf. The poisons—oil and chemical dispersants (Corexit)--are destined to spread globally, but honest reporting is restricted, and independent investigators are being arrested. This censorship is a sure sign of fascism, not freedom or democracy. In this way, the media, financially directed by leading investment bankers (cited below), accomplices this global poisoning, or omnicide. (Click here for an example of more accurate reporting from the Gulf by a private party.)

2)The news and network “programming” is mind-controlling propaganda issued by the “partners” in the Rothschild League of Banks including Goldman-Sachs, JPMorgan-Chase and UBS that direct BP, Transocean, Halliburton, the clean-up capitalists, Corexit suppliers, even the trailers used by clean-up crews, through co-investors heavily represented in the Partnership for New York City (PFNYC), founded by David Rockefeller and chartered by the Royal Family of England. All together, these “partners” wield the most formidable economic power in world history.

3)Ongoing worsening environmental pollution has been a primary objective of these Rothschild League financiers since at least the 1960s, according to their leaked economic agenda. Destroying the environment, thus creating new global threats for remediation markets and emergency management is unconscionable, but very real. This has become a viable alternative to traditional warfare securing profitable population control through crisis capitalism..

4)The Gulf oil catastrophe reflects this one of three major financially-sustaining war substitutes. Currently, less urgent than environmental destruction is space-based threats (e.g., solar flares, alien menaces, and colliding asteroids). The third, and least apparent profitable war substitute is petrochemical-pharmaceutical enslavement. All three of these incentives and objectives for global governance, emergency preparedness, and profitable military and Homeland Security responses, “carries the weight of . . . considerable actual sacrifice of life.” (Quote from The Report From Iron Mountain—a scholarly, serious, non-fiction, non-satirical leaked worked claimed by Rothschild League banking cartel propagandists, including media pundits, to be a satire.)

5)The propaganda ploy used most effectively in the Gulf, and in all crises, is to blame illusory villains to create sham debates. When Obama is blamed for the oil crisis, for instance, the “accident” faults Democrats. When Halliburton is blamed, the Republicans are faulted. This divisive diversion suckers masses of idiots, discredits the media’s intelligence, and shames people who still claim we have a “free” and “responsible” press.

6)The Deepwater Horizon (Mississippi Canyon 252) oil rig that exploded is the property of Transocean, not British Petroleum (BP); and both companies are financially directed by Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, and UBS investment bankers, all operating in the Rothschild “League” of banks.

7)Coincidentally, or demonically, the oil rig’s failed cementation job exploded on Hitler’s birthday, just in time to poison Earth Day 2010, thanks to Transocean’s contractor—the infamous Dick Cheney/George Bush officiated Halliburton Company.

8)Halliburton officials admit knowing their cementation job was likely to explode just when it did, according to Congressional testimony.

9)Goldman Sachs (GS) officials, likewise, knew the rig was likely to explode when it did. They bet millions of dollars on this event only days before it happened! (Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of GS, directed 44% (4.6 million shares) of BP stock to be dumped three weeks before the explosion.

10) Not surprisingly, Transocean was merged into its current corporate state by Goldman-Sachs (a.k.a., “Government Sachs”) in 2007.

11) David Sidwell, Risk Committee Chairman of UBS, the wealthiest Swiss bank (in the Rothschild “League” or alliance of so-called “competing” banks) and the world’s largest wealth manager, also dumped BP stocks massively (i.e., 99% of the banks holdings, or 2.1 million shares,) as did Wachovia/Wells Fargo.

12) BP Oil CEO Tony Hayward sold 1/3 of his BP stock (223,288 shares) on March 17—a month before the explosion.

13)Just prior to 9/11, you may recall, Goldman Sachs did the same with airline stocks; and before the Gulf catastrophe, GS shorted mortgage company stocks, fueling the real estate collapse in America.



New Shocking Facts:

14)The Management Boards of the Eurex Stock Exchanges and the Executive Board of Germany’s Eurex Clearing AG decided, on April 14, 2010, to introduce an equity option on shares of Transocean Ltd, effective on the day of the explosion, April 20, 2010. This gave inside traders a full day to dump their “uninsured” stock in Transocean at the highest price possible (before the rest of Wall Street decided to dump their stock). Then the crisis capitalists were able to reinvest their funds securing the higher price value.

These officials published zero reason for Transocean’s new equity option program that encouraged banking criminals to use “protective puts” to make millions.

In other words, by paying a relatively small premium (compared to the soon-to-be plunging market value of Transocean stock), the Rothschild Leaguers knew no matter how far the stock dropped, it could be sold at the original “strike price” (also called the “put option”) anytime before April 20, 2012.

This additionally evidences premeditated murder, and the financial motives of the Swiss/German banking chiefs influencing Europe’s most active stock exchanges. These inside traitors and industrial sabateurs, financially controlling Transocean, Halliburton, and BP, committed the gravest environmental crime of all time, with obvious plans to profit from the mass murdering
of people and destruction of the Gulf.

15) This was how money was made from the obvious sabotage. After UBS sold its 2.1 million shares of BP, prior to the explosion, the “put option” policy on BP stock was similarly exercised when UBS bought back 8.6 million BP shares by June 7.

16) Transocean Vice President of Marketing, Terry Bonno, met UBS officials on May 27, 2010, according to a heavily censored Thompson Reuter’s report and transcript. (CLICK HERE to read it.) The “Ultra-Deepwater market will start to pick up longer-term,” Bonno encouraged banking officials.

17) So within weeks of the explosion the Rothschild League of investment bankers were yelling “Buy! Buy! Buy! BP stock,” stating the costs for clean-up were minuscule compared to what their investments and company profits would earn.

18)This quote detailed the BP-banking-stock-jocks’ plot: “Buying shares today while writing $55 calls and puts for the January 2012 expiration allows for an outstanding cash-on-cash return if BP merely bounces back by 14% over the next 21 months. In a best case you’ll net 98% total returns on the actual cash outlay (assuming you write the puts against paid-up marginable equity already held in your margin-type account).

(Editor’s Note: Can you imagine the psychopathology, blind ignorance, and murderous greed of investing, or reinvesting, in these companies that are killing us and our planet?)

19) Much like the instantly manufactured equity investment option created for Transocean right before the explosion, BP’s stock insurance plan secured the ongoing devastation in the Gulf with this financial promise: “In a worst case scenario you’ll end up with twice the number of BP ADRs at an average cost of $42.64 or less,” stock guru’s promoted. “That’s lower than the annual lows for BP during the entire period 2004 right through 2007.”

20)The Halliburton cementation job’s sabotage, and resulting oil hemorrhage in the Gulf, served perfectly, synchronously and financially, to “veer” media attention away from Lloyd Blankfein’s/ Goldman-Sachs’s shorting of the American housing market, accelerating the planned economic collapse of the USA for the forthcoming New World Odor’s “New Deal.”

21)And just when we thought the Government Sachs connection to the Gulf oil rigging could not get any deeper, we learn that GS holds controlling interests (with Apollo Management) in the Nalco Company which produces the hideously deadly oil dispersant named Corexit.


22)The Rothschild Leaguers “ruled out all [Corexit] competitors even those that have shown to be far less toxic and, in some cases, nearly twice as effective,” reported Paul Quinlan in the New York Times. The reason being . . .

23)Nalco formed from a joint venture with the David Rockefeller-controlled Exxon Chemical Co. in 1994. Then, . . .

24)In 2003, The Blackstone Group, Apollo Management L.P., and Goldman Sachs Capital Partners, bought Ondeo Nalco for $4.3 billon dollars. All three companies are partnered in the Rockefeller-founded, Royal Family-chartered PFNYC.

25)Ironically, according to Nalco’s website, the company is portrayed as a water, ******, and air conservation corporation. They claim to be the world's leading water treatment company. Their poisonous dispersant, Corexit, is not their main business. It is a ”first aid product that they've always had and they've never really used.”

26)Corexit was found poisoning clean-up workers, causing kidney and liver disorders, following its debut in the 1989 Exxon-Valdez disaster. Nalco blamed these problems on 2-butoxyethanol, now claimed to have been removed. And that’s not all.

27)The George Bush/Dick Cheney 9/11-linked Halliburton Company purchased the world's largest oil-spill cleanup entity, Boots & Coots, three weeks before the "natural gas leak." This was synchronous with the bankers beginning to unload BP and Transocean stocks, and securing equity options to insure their investments. Other major shareholders in Nalco include billionaire, Warren Buffett, Maurice Strong, Al Gore, George Soros and Berkshire Hathaway, and

28)Historically, Homeland Security has contracted with Halliburton to provide detention camps for political dissidents and displaced populations, through KBR, whose financial underwriters feature the aforementioned war-makers: Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC; Goldman, Sachs & Co.; UBS Securities LLC; Citigroup Global Markets Inc.; and Wachovia Capital Markets, LLC--the precise financial institutions shorting BP and Transocean stocks as detailed above. Furthermore, . . .

29)Homeland Security's choice of accommodations for Gulf oil clean-up crews are the same toxic trailers banned from use during Hurricane Katrina.

30)Homeland Security medical officials are also now implicated in fraudulently promoting (through Alex Jones) a “decoy product” for infectious disease markets called Silver Sol for profit and probably depopulation as well.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 08:22:13 pm
Polish Plane Crash Conspiracy.


Original Link: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100033738/polish-president-killed-in-air-crash-the-conspiracy-theorists-will-go-crazy/


Checkout the footage below. Guards killing off survivors.



Digital Enhancement Of Amateur Plane Crash Site Footage (w / English Subtitles).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEx7HL4H5yk


Enhanced Video of POLISH PLANE CRASH SURVIVORS SOLDIERS GUNSHOTS.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqw5ErIpgVQ


In the Adrij Mendierej film above, It sounds like the guards were killing off? survivors (gun shots were fired) and telling by standers to get lost. Thats what it sounded like to me, "NE UBIVAITE NAS" (Don't kill us) . After the camera man hears the don't kill me and gun shots he starts cussing along the lines of "I cant believe I'm witnessing this".


Then Adrij Mendierej is assassinated.


Adrij Mendierej Murdered by Russians?.

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WASHINGTON (Politically Illustrated) – A conspiracy theory is buzzing online involving the plane accident of the Polish President Lech Kaczynski on Wednesday after a video was released by Adrij Mendierej depicting the Russian government as assassins.

The video (above) filmed by Adrij Mendierej shows some people still alive in the wreckage with gun shots being fired.

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"Author (Adrij Mendierej) of the video seen by everyone by now has been stabbed near Kijow on 4.15 and transported in critical condition to the hospital in Kijow. On 4.16 three unidentified individuals unplugged him from life support system and stabbed him 3 more times. Andrij was pronounced dead that afternoon. Russian government claims it was a coincidence."



Who's buried instead of late Polish president?.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBEU57MnhKo


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The brother of the late Polish President killed in a plane crash in south west Russia has claimed the body buried in Krakow does not belong to Lech Kaczynski. Former Prime Minister Jaroslav Kaczynski says he's not yet decided whether he will ask for the remains to be exhumed. Russian media reports that Moscow is puzzled by the comments, because Polish officials were present at all stages of the identification. Earlier, Warsaw rejected the findings of the investigation into the April plane crash. The report concluded that pilot error was among the main causes of the fatal accident that killed 96. The Polish Prime Minister has called the findings unacceptable and groundless. RT talks to Captain John Cox - an expert on aviation safety based in Florida.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 08:31:51 pm
The Death of Marilyn Monroe.
Evidence of Murder.


(http://www.bing.com/travel/content/static/br-images/image-aHR0cDovL2JsdWJlZGJ1aWEwMjo4My9pLzIwLzQ1REE5Q0Q2QTA1NUY4NDM3RUI0M0E5MDJDOUJGLmpwZw.jpg)


Original Link: http://www.marilynmonroemurdered.com/evidence.htm


August 4, 1962: Witnesses track the nightime movements of powerful people in and around Marilyn Monroe's home at 12305 Fifth Helena Dr Brentwood, CA, the night of her death.

Robert F. Kennedy, Attorney General at the time, was seen by scores of residents at the Monroe home with his brother-in-law, actor, Peter Lawford .

Sometime before midnight a dark Mercedes sped east on Olympic Boulevard in Beverly Hills. Estimating the car to be driving in excess of 55 miles per hour, Beverly Hills police officer Lynn Franklin gave chase. In the car was, Bobby Kennedy, Peter Lawford, and Marilyn Monroe’s psychiatrist, Ralph Greenson.

The body of Marilyn Monroe was discovered well before midnight, yet the call to the police about her death didn't occur until 3:30am.

Deborah Gould, ex-wife of Peter Lawford, says the delay was to get Bobby out of town. He had a helicopter chartered that night back to San Francisco.

Allegedly Peter Lawford went to Marilyn’s house to clean up and do what he could before the press arrived.

Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, reporter Joe Hyams learned that Lawford’s neighbors were upset that a helicopter had touched down on the Santa Monica shore behind the Lawford’s residence in the early hours of Sunday morning, August 5, blowing sand into their swimming pools.

Ward Wood, another neighbor, told the police that he saw Bobby Guy Hockett, Marilyn’s mortician arrive between 5:20 and 6:20 A.M, Marilyn’s body was in an advanced stage of rigor mortis. He estimated that she died between 9:30 and 11:30 Saturday night, between the same time dozens of neighbors reported seeing Bobby Kennedy and Peter Lawford enter the house along with Dr. Ralph Greenson.

When a local attorney was asked to interview Monroe’s psychiatrist for an inquiry into her death, he expected Dr. Greenson to maintain his beliefs that Monroe had committed suicide. He was wrong.

According to the attorney they had met for several hours, during which, Greenson discussed not only Marilyn’s habits, but also the private confidences she shared with her psychiatrist.

During the interview Dr. Greenson expressed his firm opinion that Marilyn Monroe had not committed suicide. He went on to play a half hour tape that Marilyn had made at her home on her own tape recorder. The contents of this tape also led the attorney to conclude that she had not committed suicide.

Private Investigator, Otash, had been taping Kennedy for weeks prior to Monroe’s murder. The day of her killing, “Otash described a struggle in the Monroe bedroom and Kennedy yelling ‘Where is it? Where the hell is it? I have to have it! My family will pay you for it!’

At the conclusion of the struggle, Otash heard physical blows and a door slamming.” This is most likely how Monroe obtained the bruises all over her body. It is obvious that Robert Kennedy was looking for Monroe’s red diary Robert Slatzer remembers a phone conversation he had with Marilyn on the day of her death. “Has anyone else seen this book?” Slatzer asked. “Nobody. But I am so angry I may just call a press conference and show it to the whole world and let everybody know what the Kennedy’s are really like.

A few hours before Marilyn had died, the actress told Slatzer that “Bobby Kennedy was here, and he threatened me, screamed at me, and pushed me around!” Slatzer said “now she was afraid and felt she was in terrible danger. Bobby felt she had become a problem and had said to her, "If you threaten me, Marilyn, there’s more than one way to keep you quiet."

Allegedly when Deborah Gould asked her ex-husband, Peter Lawford, how Marilyn had died he told her that, ‘Marilyn took her last big enema.’

Oddly enough her colon showed congestion and purplish discoloration and it was shown impossible for her to have swallowed the pills or been injected with them. Evidence of yellow dye should have been found in the digestive tract-especially in an empty stomach. Coroner Nogushi found no trace of yellow dye. Sometimes the residue moves to the duodenum but they found none there either.

Marilyn Monroe would have had to of swallowed 52-89 capsules to achieve her percentages of the drug in her blood. No case has yet to be reported in which anyone has swallowed over 12 capsules without leaving any residue in the stomach. Yet Marilyn had no residue at all.

Joe Hyams, a reporter, tried to obtain Monroe’s phone records. A employee at the phone company told him “All hell’s broken loose down here. Apparently you’re not the only one interested in Marilyn’s calls. The tapes disappeared…. I’m told it was impounded by men in dark suits and well-shined shoes…. Somebody high up ordered it.”

Alan Kimble Fahey, author of "Hollywood Unlisted," claims that around the early 1980's, he was sent to do about three days of phone work on a system at Atascadero State Mental Hospital, a maximum-security facility on California's central coast.

Kim was minding his work, converting an old switchboard to a new phone system, when he was confronted by a thin, wiry man. "The Guy, as I will refer to him, was in his late 50's or early 60's, of medium build, maybe 145 pounds, with slicked-back, graying hair." Kim said that he spoke in a streetwise tone and seemed desperate to talk to someone.

Allegedly he told Kim that he was a small-timer in the Sam Giancana crime family in the East. The goal of anyone working for the mob was to move up in the family, so when he was told to go to California to do the deed he had no hesitation. He was told to shut Marilyn up and get a journal she had been keeping.

It seems that what she was writing in that journal was making some very powerful people nervous. The "Guy" had never been to Los Angeles and didn't know his way around, so a driver was provided for him and his partner.

They stalked Marilyn for several days to find out her routines. They discovered that part of her nightly routine was to sedate herself a little, take a drink or two, and crash on the bed in her bedroom with the TV on. During the time they stalked her, they also managed to lift her keys and had duplicates made of all of them, since they weren't sure which ones they would need. Finally they chose the night to make their move.

They let themselves in the front door. The Guy said they didn't see anyone else in the house. They entered her room and, as expected, found Marilyn in bed. "Before she could react, they were on top of her. Both men held her down while the Guy inserted a nembutol suppository (supplied for the purpose when they arrived in California) into her rectum. They had been told that it would work quickly and that it would not show up in an autopsy.

The Guy said that Marilyn struggled for only a minute or so, and then she stopped breathing. All was quiet. The search for the journal didn't take long; they found it under the mattress. They left in a matter of minutes, making sure that the front door was locked behind them and leaving no evidence of a break-in.

The Guy thought he was going to move up in the Giancana crime family because of his slick work, until he heard that his partner had been murdered and that there was a contract out for him, too.

He told Kim that he stole an ID that had a physical description close to his. He didn't want to be arrested and put in the general population in prison, because he knew the mob could get to him from inside. So he got a crazy idea to pretend that he was crazy. He got into an altercation in a restaurant, acted nutty, got arrested, and was subsequently admitted to Atascadero State Mental Hospital.

Crazy as the plan was, it might have worked. He may have thought that he could hide in the hospital and be released when things cooled off. What he didn't know was that the stolen ID was from a guy with a rap sheet longer than his arm who was a bona fide nut case.

The book “Double Cross,” by Sam Giancana, written by the Chicago mobster’s grandson, who had the same name as his grandfather. Sam boasted that his grandfather bragged not only that he had Marilyn Monroe killed, but even told him how he did it.

The method he described is one of the only things that matches the autopsy report. He explained that at the opportune time, discovered as they were allegedly bugging her bedroom. Giancanna's hitmen entered the bedroom where she was lying in bed on her stomach trying to sleep. He said they then held her down and administered a prepared enema containing a massive dose of Nembutal.

This explains the findings of colonic bruising due to the sudden forced distention by the enema, and would also explain some bruising as they held her on her stomach to administer the enema. Once enough drug was absorbed so that she stopped struggling, he said they slipped out undetected.

His Grandfather went on to explain that they did it at just that time, to implicate the Kennedy's. He notes Bobby had been back and forth that day to try and calm her down, since he was in the process of breaking off their relationship.

Allegedly he was involved with her to deflect her from the president, and was now trying to extract himself from her. His physical presence the evening of her death coupled with the fact that she was scheduled to hold a press conference on Monday, and the Kennedy’s obvious need to keep the relationships quiet made this the ideal time for her death to cast doubt on the Kennedys.

Mr. Giancana also considered the possibility that she might disclose her mob connections thru her Hollywood friends who set up the meetings with her and the president.

Sam Giancanna had bragged that they set up Marilyn’s relationship with the Kennedy's in the first place to ultimately use this as a way to publicly discredit them for “double crossing” them by going after them after they had helped them get elected.
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As reported in multiple interviews, Robert Kennedy and Marylin Monroe's personal physician were notified once the aide found Ms. Monroe either dead or dying. Allegedly a vain attempt at resuscitation, staging the body and pill jars to restore what had looked like a suicide scene once it was clear she was dead, and searching for documents to attempt to find and remove her personal diary and all connections to president, and the delay of reporting to local police until all this was accomplished, make perfect sense.....

Also Louise DiMaggio claimed to have been on the telephone with Marilyn Monroe when she was murdered. She also claims to have said the name of her attacker before dying. (from a book by June DiMaggio, neice of Louise) Louise refused to name names even on her death bed, saying that the knowledge terrified her to death.


Who Killed Marilyn Monroe? Bobby Kennedy, Says New Book.


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Marilyn Monroe was tricked into killing herself by Bobby Kennedy.

So says Dr Jack Hattem, who, backed up by secret FBI files, says the Hollywood bombshell was somehow fooled into believing she would be revived in time as part of a plot involving Senator Robert Kennedy, the brother of JFK, who was gunned down 40 years ago this week.

Instead, Monroe, who staged many fake suicide attempts throughout her life to gain sympathy, was left to die by staff and friends. It’s all in Hattem’s new book Marilyn Monroe: Murder By Consent.

Certainly, Marilyn Monroe may have been dead for 46 years, but that doesn’t mean that people have stopped speculating about the circumstances of her death. We spoke to Dr Hattem and listened to some of his more compelling claims, including where Kennedy was on the night of Marilyn Monroe’s death and why the recently unearthed Marilyn Monroe sex tape might not be the only one knocking about.

This is turning out to be quite a big year for Marilyn Monroe. Not only has Lindsay Lohan aped her by getting naked and covering herself with a net curtain, but a Marilyn Monroe sex tape has also apparently been uncovered in recent months. So with sex dealt with, what about death?

While it was ruled to be suicide, theorists have long had their doubts about the way that Marilyn Monroe died – and thanks to a set of FBI records released 20 years ago that have been inexplicably ignored until recently, those doubts seem to have some substance.

According to Dr Jack Hattem’s book Marilyn Monroe: Murder By Consent, Monroe died because Robert Kennedy, along with Monroe’s close ‘friend’ and Hollywood actor Peter Lawford, convinced her to make another fake suicide attempt.

Caught between his family, who wanted to play down its relationship with Marilyn Monroe and the fact Monroe was threatening to shop a red diary containing ‘pillow talk’ between the pair and confidential secrets about the Cuban Missile Crisis if he ever left her, Robert Kennedy and Rat Pack member Lawford hatched a plan to visit Monroe on the day of her death. Hattem said:

“It is my guess that they had discussed with her, in no uncertain terms, that they needed for her to fake a suicide attempt. They guarantee she would be woken up, and that the fake suicide attempt would gain her so much sympathy from 20th Century Fox – who had fired her – that she would get her job back. But they threatened her somehow. She could be talked into things, because she wanted desperately to be cared about.”

At the time, Kennedy denied the visit, claiming he was in San Francisco. Which he might have got away with, except for the fact the FBI just happened to be busy tracking both Robert Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe at the same time. Hattem explained:

“The CIA had long considered Marilyn Monroe a threat to national security from the time she had married Arthur Miller, because they thought of him as a leftist. Then the FBI started listening in on her phone calls and tracking her – even to Mexico, where Bobby Kennedy had a fling with her. A private detective took an audio tape of Bobby Kennedy and Marilyn in an ‘affair’. The FBI was tracking Kennedy, their boss, all over the place and listening in on his conversations, possibly because Hoover wanted something on Kennedy – and he certainly got it, because as she was dying, they were listening in.”

Adding to the muddle is Marilyn Monroe’s housekeeper Eunice Murray, who found her face down on her bed, and her psychiatrist Ralph Greenson.

Apparently, Monroe fired Murray on the day of her death – which Hattem suggests is why she didn’t rush to try and revive Monroe; and was sleeping with Greenson – who allegedly gave Monroe an extra-large dose of barbiturates on top of what she already had been given.

What’s most interesting, though, is Dr Hattem’s story of the conversation between Bobby Kennedy and Peter Lawford at around 4am the following morning:

“In the FBI files, the FBI is recording Kennedy saying to Peter Lawford ‘Is she dead yet?’”

Throw in the fact that all of Marilyn Monroe’s phone message disappeared, to later be discovered in the chief of police’s private files, and that her red diary could not be found – Hattem’s guess is that Kennedy had a large hand in it. He said:

“I’m certain Robert Kennedy stole it when he came by her house after she was dead.”

But if Robert Kennedy’s involvement in Marilyn Monroe’s death is rooted in fact so firmly that there’s even an FBI file on it, why hasn’t more been made of it?

“I think the reason is that everybody already believes the Kennedys killed her.”

In the case of Marilyn Monroe:

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* The toxicology report showed high levels of Nembutal (38-66 capsules) and Chloral Hydrate (14-23 tablets) in Monroe's blood.

* Police noted that the bedside table had numerous pill bottles but the room contained no glass to wash down the pills and the water was turned off. (no, that's not suspicious!)

* The pathologist Dr. Thomas Noguchi could find no trace of capsules, powder or the typical discoloration caused by Nembutal in Monroe's stomach or intestines, indicating the drugs that killed her had not been swallowed.

* Monroe was found lying face down but lividity on her back and the posterior of her arms and legs indicated she had died lying on her back.

* Eunice Murray, Monroe's housekeeper, claimed that she couldn't open Monroe's bedroom door the night she died because it was locked, but she also had a spare key. (so why did she not use it?) Police noted that Murray appeared quite evasive and extremely vague and she would eventually change her story several times.

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Original Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Marilyn_Monroe

Original Link: http://www.thevoiceofreason.com/Conspiracy/DeathOfMarilynMonroe.htm

Original Link: http://www.wisegeek.com/how-did-marilyn-monroe-die.htm

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The Kennedy's organized the murder beyond any reasonable doubt. Their hit men?. Marilyn's own doctor/therapist & her housekeeper. The reason: Marilyn wanted to eventually go public about sleeping with JFK (at that time a sex scandal could ruin you for a lifetime). No one was thinking JFK would die, and thought he'd be re-elected or continue a longer career. They had to "kill" Marilyn, remove her diary and fool the public into thinking she had? killed herself.


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Robert F. Kennedy, Attorney General at the time, was seen by scores of residents at the Monroe home with his brother-in-law, actor, Peter Lawford & Marilyn Monroe’s psychiatrist, Ralph Greenson.

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Allegedly when Deborah Gould asked her ex-husband, Peter Lawford, how Marilyn had died he told her that, ‘Marilyn took her last big enema.’


Her doctor (Dr. Greenson) gave her an a enema, overdosing her on nembutal, seconal and chloral hydrate.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 08:38:29 pm
War By Deception
by Ryan Dawson.


Original Link: http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/


This is probably the best 9/11 documentary out there.

Ryan Dawson uses only facts, not heresay, just straight facts about what happened, what was reported.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTx5R67slS0


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: adarqui on February 21, 2011, 09:14:44 pm
hah sick post.. can't wait to check all of it out later tonight....... smooth needs to get in on this thread, he's a conspiracy buff.


one thing though real quick, my real quick rundown of 9/11:

intelligence agencies catch wind of the plot to take down the towers, that info travels, some shady group decides to "escalate" the event (probably mossad).. so, 9/11 towers were hit by the terrorists, but event escalated from demolitions placed on the core by an 'insiders'.. pentagon hit by cruise missile, other plane SHOT DOWN somewhere else, real debris field somewhere else, perhaps it was shot down very high, so something from the plane fell by that farm, but the rest was scattered elsewhere..

the raytheon employees and shit being on that plane is odd though, the third plane.. the fbi finally releasing the black box voice recorders and it being 5 minutes of static indicates to me that the plane was actually shot down by us pilots.

so ya that's my theory, real terrorist plot escalated by very well equipped group of people within an intelligence agency, not many people could know about it..

pC
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 11:16:28 pm
Really cool downloads & a must see...


Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura (Complete Seasons 1 & 2).


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Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 11:30:17 pm
Was The Titanic Torpedoed?.

Original Link: http://famous-conspiracy-theories-websites.blogspot.com/



Probably. Just think about it.

How many modern steel ships sink after hitting an iceberg?. The Titanic was built to withstand just such an occurrence. German intelligence reported on the likelihood a torpedo shot from a submarine really sunk the Titanic. And why? Perhaps the three richest men in the world at that time were aboard that ship, including John Jacob Astor and the owner of Macy's department stores. In today's terms they would have been billionaires. And all three opposed the proposed Federal Reserve Bank system. All three had been coaxed onto the ship. Life boats were provided for less than half of the passengers, strangely enough. So you know they would say women and children should board first so that all the men on board, including these three very rich ones, would drown, thereby opening the door for the evil and satanic Federal Reserve Board system championed by the New World Order.

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Doesn't a ship hit by a torpedo make quite an explosion? Wondering how 705 survivors failed to see that or make any mention of it?.

I think they heard a loud explosion, but they assumed it was the sound of the ship crashing into an iceberg. A lot of other rich men who opposed the Federal Reserve Board also had been coaxed on board, including Benjamin Guggenheim. It's possible even the ship's captain and crew heard a loud noise, noticed the ship was starting to sink, and just assumed they must have hit an underwater iceberg when in reality probably the US had hit the ship with a submarine launched torpedo.


I think I read somewhere that the titanic was carrying a few tons of explosives?.

Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 11:32:49 pm
Princess Diana's Death.

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On 31 August 1997, Diana, Princess of Wales, died as a result of injuries sustained in a car collision in the Pont de l'Alma road tunnel in Paris, France. Her companion, Dodi Fayed, and the driver of the Mercedes-Benz W140, Henri Paul, were pronounced dead at the scene of the accident. Fayed's bodyguard, Trevor Rees-Jones, was the only survivor. Although early on the media pinned the blame on the paparazzi, the crash was ultimately found to be caused by the reckless actions of the chauffeur, who was the head of security at the Ritz and had earlier goaded the paparazzi waiting outside the hotel.[1] An eighteen-month French judicial investigation concluded in 1999 that the crash was caused by Henri Paul, who lost control of the car at high speed while under the influence of alcohol, which may have been made worse by the simultaneous presence of an antidepressant and traces of a tranquilizer in his body.[2][3]


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From February 1998, Dodi's father, Mohamed Al-Fayed (the owner of the Hôtel Ritz, for which Paul worked) claimed that the crash was a result of a conspiracy and later contended that the crash was orchestrated by MI6 on the instructions of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.


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The Verdict - A Statement from Mohamed Al Fayed.

Original Link: http://www.alfayed.com/dodi-and-diana/the-inquests/verdict.aspx

It's been a long fight to uncover the truth about the deaths of my son Dodi and Diana, Princess of Wales. I'm not the only person who says they were murdered. Diana predicted she would be murdered and how it would happen.  So I am disappointed.

The verdicts will come as a blow to the many millions of people around the world who supported my struggle. I thank them. For 10 years I have endured two police investigations. The French and the Scotland Yard inquiries were wrong. These inquests prove it. They said it was an accident and their findings are now dismissed. The jury have found that it wasn't just the paparazzi who caused the crash, but unidentified following vehicles. Who they are and what they were doing in Paris is still a mystery.

I thank Michael Mansfield and my legal team. Michael explored the evidence with great skill and sensitivity. He believes in his heart it was not an accident, and I'll always be grateful to him.

These inquests were required by law, and the coroner decided their cost, scope and the witnesses called. They were not a waste of time or money. They have established many new relevant facts that were being withheld from the public.

Contrary to Lord Stevens' report, there's now clear evidence that Diana and Dodi's relationship was serious. It's also clear that Dodi and I were blameless in planning the fatal last journey.

I thank the jury. I had to fight long and hard for there to be a jury of ordinary men and women, with hearings in public, and they've done their very best in difficult circumstances.

They didn't hear from all the witnesses. It's shocking to me that French police, senior officials, paparazzi and pathologists refused to give evidence.

I've always believed that Prince Philip and the Queen hold valuable evidence that only they know. They were not even questioned, but they should have been. No one should be above the law.

Senior British police officers sat on a crucial note by Diana's lawyer, the Mishcon note, and then lied about their reasons for doing so.

The MI6 witnesses told us very little. I still believe they really know what really happened.

Instead, I've had to sit for six months and listen to the coroner's accusations against me and all those witnesses who said it wasn't a simple accident. I feel as though my character and belief - that I'm entitled to have as a father - have been on trial.

Diana and Dodi were taken away at the prime of their life, when they were at their happiest. They looked forward to a future together, and I'll always mourn their loss, to me and to the world.


The Strange Mystery of The Stolen Mercedes Involved In The Crash.


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Original Link: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/princess-dianas-death-the-strange-mystery-of-the-stolen-mercedes-involved-in-the-crash.html

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A few days prior to the crash that killed Princess Diana, the Mercedes Benz in which she died was stolen! Strange thing is, when found the only thing missing from the car was the onboard computer chip; that chip is responsible for controlling steering and braking! Stranger still is why that Benz S280 was the "only available car" that night!.

One would expect that with the financial means Dodi Fayed and Princess Diana had at their disposal there was absolutely no reason why they should have been chauffeured in a vehicle that had been snatched at gunpoint a few days prior to the fateful night of August 31, 1997.

But that is precisely what happened!.

The car in which the ill-fated couple was traveling, a Mercedes Benz S280, had been stolen some days prior to the crash. This fact on its own is perhaps at best nothing more than pure coincidence but where that event turns decidedly strange is how that very Mercedes was returned a few days earlier in pristine condition save for one very important aspect…

THE ONBOARD COMPUTER CHIP WAS MISSING FROM THE STOLEN MERCEDES!.

The onboard computer chip controls, amongst other things, navigation, acceleration, steering and braking of a vehicle. Considering that Princess Diana's death was due to a car crash, the fact that the Mercedes S280 involved in the crash had its onboard computer chip stolen some days earlier (and nothing else mind you…suggesting the car-snatchers were no ordinary thieves) pushes the pervasive accident account onto firmer conspiracy territory.

To date there actually exists a well established assassination technique from the 1980s (developed by the British SAS) nicknamed "The Boston Brakes" which involves steering, braking and acceleration capability being taken over by remote control!

In fact world famous explorer and former SAS officer, Sir Ranulph Fiennes did indeed confirm the relatively common use of this assassination method with particular reference to the death in England of one Major Michael Marman in a car accident that bears uncanny resemblance to that of Princess Diana, Dodi Fayed and Henri Paul.

So what could have been the motive behind the theft of the Mercedes Benz S280 that was involved in the Paris tunnel crash on August 31, 1997?

Well let's see; assuming you want to execute a very sensitive, high profile assassination but at the same time create as little fuss as possible, the best way to go about it is to make it look like an accident.

Keeping that in mind the disappearance of the onboard computer chip from the "Crash S280" then makes a lot of sense. [COLOR="Red"]Steal the car, remove the onboard computer chip, replace the old chip with a new doctored onboard computer chip that allows another party to gain remote control over the car and tada...[/COLOR]

You've got yourselves a genuine accident in the making!
Furthermore, very suspiciously, the stolen Mercedes Benz S280 was the only vehicle "available" to the Princess and her companions that night! Talk about leaving nothing to chance!

MERCEDES BENZ DENIED ACCESS TO EXAMINE CRASH VEHICLE!

Initial reports leaked to the press suggested that the Mercedes Benz S280 involved in the crash had been zooming at speeds in the neighborhood of 120 mph! If this were translated into km/h this would come out to a staggering 192 kilometers per hour!

In fact reports of the day had the speedometer of the car stuck at 196 kilometers per hour (122 mph).

The truth of the matter is if the car had been traveling anywhere near those speeds, seat-belt-or-not NOBODY would have survived that crash (the only person to survive the crash was bodyguard Trevor Rhys-Jones who sat in the passenger seat and widely believed to have been an operative of MI6 or MI5 branches of the British Secret Service).

Many professional drivers have decried the authority-cited-speeds (120mph region) as being absolutely preposterous and from the evidence available to them put the car at about 60 mph (96km/h) at the time of the accident.

To date, Mercedes Benz has never been able to examine the car for the simple reason the authorities never allowed them. This in itself is very strange because Mercedes Benz experts should have been party to the panel of experts examining the car!

Why?.

How about if for no other reason than they built and engineered the vehicle and thus would have been in an excellent position to determine how fast the car was going and what caused the various impact damage to the vehicle.

It would appear though that an internal investigation conducted by Mercedes Benz (albeit with the rather limited information available to them) seemed to suggest a speed of 60mph was far more reasonable than the 120mph spread by authorities and that the safety protective features of the Mercedes more or less behaved as expected.

This may explain why Trevor Rhys-Jones who was seat-belted in the passenger seat and thereby in the least likely position for surviving such an accident survived! (The passenger seat is known in the industry as "The Death Seat").

The Mercedes engineered safety mechanisms that helped preserve Mr Jones' life, incorporate the engine block being forced under the car and not into the passenger compartment following the tremendous force from such a collision as the one that occurred in the Paris tunnel that night.

NEW EVIDENCE SUGGESTS SEATBELT WAS PURPOSEFULLY JAMMED!

The widespread view is that had the Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed been wearing seatbelts they would have likely survived the crash! (Hmmm…perhaps not! Princess Diana did survive the crash and actually spoke to a French Doctor (not affiliated with the authorities who arrived shortly after) who was passing by at the time of the accident and as he administered the 1st first aid in his own words said "I thought her life could be saved").

Princess Diana ultimately died because of a suspicious 2 hour journey in an ambulance that snailed its way to a hospital 3.25 miles away averaging a speed of 25 mph and which conveniently bypassed 4 other hospitals on the way!

As it is there is new evidence that indicates that perhaps the reason Princess Diana was not wearing her seatbelt is because it was mysteriously but very conveniently jammed in such a way as to render it unusable!.


Princess Diana Death: Was Murdered Paparazzi An MI6 Assassin And Driver Their Informant?.


Original Link: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/princess-diana-death-was-murdered-paparazzi-an-mi6-assassin-and-driver-their-informant.html

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The MI6 branch of The British Secret Intelligence Services were not only implicated in the plot to kill Princess Diana by one of their own they were also fingered as having recruited driver Henri Paul as an informant! MI6 is also reputed to have an ultra secret branch within its ranks called the UKN which recruits journalists and paparazzi to monitor the activities of celebrities and other well-known individuals they consider persons of interest.

The night that Dodi Fayed, Princess Diana and Henri Paul were killed in the Point d'Alma tunnel in Paris there were several high level MI6 Officer stationed at the British Embassy who were listed as diplomats. However the British Embassy categorically denied the presence of said MI6 officers in Paris on the weekend of August 31, 1997!

But the fact of the matter is that both MI6 and the British Embassy in Paris were very very busy little bees that night!

Paparazzi MI6 Operative Was An Assassin!

Jean-Paul Andanson, the paparazzi who owned the white Fiat Uno that hit Princess Diana's Mercedes and whose body was found burned in a charred wreckage of an abandoned car with a bullet hole neatly drilled to the head was a member of UKN. The UKN is a covert section of MI6 that is comprised of a group of journalists and paparazzi who enable MI6 to surreptitiously keep tabs on the activities of VIPs.

Judging from Jean-Paul Andanson's activities on the night of August 31, 1997, his particular job description went way beyond surveillance of targeted individuals and incorporated a more hands on a approach! Strong evidence in fact suggests that Andanson was an assassin in the employ of at least one intelligence organization!

Four French politicians were discovered dead shortly after being visited and photographed by Jean-Paul Andanson. One of the more prominent deaths in which Andanson was implicated was the alleged suicide of former French Prime Minister Pierre Beregovoy by bullet to the head. Of course take a guess who had recently paid a visit to the former prime minister before he committed suicide...that's right, none other than yours truly Jean-Paul Andanson!

At the time of paparazzi Andanson's death the closed investigation of the alleged suicide of Pierre Beregovoy had been reopened due to the violent deaths of three other French politicians that had some connection to the scandal consuming then French President Francoise Mitterrand. Whether Andanson was definitively linked to those deaths and that scandal is undetermined, but what is known is that he was affiliated to various intelligence organizations and his white Fiat Uno was in the tunnel at the time of the crash that killed Dodi Fayed, Princess Diana and Henri Paul!

Henri Paul Was MI6's Star Informant.

Strong evidence suggests that Henri Paul was a double, if not triple agent (or at any rate informant)! According to Richard Tomlinson, the former MI6 agent who was hounded and harassed by that very same intelligence organization for implicating them in the murder of Princess Diana, Henri Paul was undoubtedly an informant for MI6. Tomlinson discovered this super-sensitive information while working in 1992 in the Eastern European Controllerate of MI6.

What caught Tomlinson's attention about this particular informant was the fact that he was of French nationality; it is rare that British Secret Intelligence Services (MI6) are able to recruit the services of a French national (definitely no love lost between France and Britain). Henri Paul's apparent affiliations with intelligence agencies were not restricted to MI6. He was reputed to be an informant for Mossad as well as the DGSE; where his true loyalties lay, one can only wonder?

With Henri Paul As An Asset MI6 Knew Every Little Detail About Princess' Diana's Movements That Weekend!

As head of security at Mohamed Al Fayed's Ritz Hotel in Paris Henry Paul was privy to the innermost details of security enveloping Diana and Dodi that night. As an MI6 informant he was able to convey Princess Diana's and Dodi Fayed's plans to his handler. He was also strategically positioned to install bugs and other listening devices in their suite.

Henri Paul as an MI6 informant would explain how the plotters knew beforehand that Diana and Dodi would take the tunnel route (with a little help of course). Eyewitness, producer Jacques Morel stated that he saw several figures loitering in the tunnel in single file pressed against the wall moments before the crash. Morel and his wife entered the tunnel from the opposite direction and in the opposite lane to the one that the Mercedes carrying Diana and Dodi was traveling.

Those men he saw were probably the assassination clean-up crew and support team (why else were they lurking at the dead of night (past midnight) in a most unusual location...a fume filled tunnel of all places!

In fact as an MI6 informant Henri Paul could well have been the individual responsible in convincing Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed that it was best if they left the hotel. Why else would they have risked running the gauntlet through a posse of hungry and snarling paparazzi all over again? Perhaps Henri Paul was contacted by his MI6 handlers earlier that evening and promised a sizeable sum of money if he could convince Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed to leave the Ritz Hotel using a decoy motorcade set up so that the previously stolen Mercedes S280 could be introduced into the picture with its clandestine modifications. The large amount of cash found in his pocket at the time of his death could have been a down payment for his activities.

As head of security at the Paris Ritz Hotel, Henri Paul was uniquely positioned to convince Diana and Dodi that it was best to leave the Ritz because security had been compromised. Since they had no idea Henri Paul was working with the enemy, Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed would have had no reason to doubt him!

Whatever their reason for leaving the Ritz Hotel that night (it could have simply been that they wanted to celebrate out on the town), the fact remains, thanks to Henri Paul's clandestine activities, every move that Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed made was known to MI6!

Henri Paul's Motives.

Henri Paul never had a clue that he was about to die that night. Why else would he accept money if he was aware that he was never going to spend it? He was probably driven by good-ole-fashion greed (which may explain the multiple affiliations with the different intelligence agencies…bigger payday) and probably did not know that his activities were endangering Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed.

MI6 probably convinced Henri Paul that their activities were to ensure the safety of Princess Diana and that by doing as they requested not only was he making their task a lot easier he was also helping to protect the Princess of Wales! Henri Paul would have had little cause to disbelief them. They were, after all, the British Secret Intelligence Service (SIS); surely they couldn't be planning to harm the mother of the future king of England? Little did he know!

Henri Paul probably first realized that he'd been misled by MI6, and that in fact his passengers were indeed in danger, as the Mercedes approached the tunnel. Before the entrance to the tunnel there is an exit which aso happened to be conveniently blocked by a vehicle thus negating the option of avoiding the tunnel. It was at this point that a vehicle in front of the Mercedes started weaving and braking dangerously forcing Henri Paul to downshift and overtake it thereby putting the Mercedes in the left lane, exactly where the plotters wanted it!

As the Mercedes pulled away from the Ritz Hotel on th night of the crash, CCTV security footage quite clearly showed that Trevor Rhys Jones was not wearing his seatbelt . So when exactly did he put it on and why did he put it on?

As to why Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed did not wear their seat belts…well the reason may coincide with why that particular vehicle was stolen (Mercedes S280) . The vehicle had been stolen and tampered with a few weeks before the crash, and some of the things the plotters modified were the passenger seat belts.

They made sure that an avid seatbelt wearer such as Princess Diana (yes…she would even put her seatbelt on when adorned in an elaborate ballroom gown) would not be able to wear a seatbelt that night; neither would Dodi Fayed! As for Henri Paul...well he was out of luck too! For reasons unknown the airbag on his side of the car did not inflate on impact!

In fact the only interior safety features that functioned in the Mercedes S280 that night were located in the front passenger side of the car. Trevor Rhys Jones despite being seated in the position most associated with crash fatalities was the only person to survive the crash because he had his seatbelt on and the passenger side airbag inflated when the Mercedes slammed into the pillar!


Princess Diana Death: Paparazzi's Bragging Got Him Killed!.


Original Link: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/princess-diana-death-paparazzis-bragging-got-him-killed.html


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The man who owned the white Fiat Uno that several witnesses saw speeding away from the scene where Princess Diana died immediately following a loud bang may have been killed 3 years later when he started bragging that he had sensational never-before-seen footage of the crash!

According to colleagues and close friends of Andanson, in the weeks before his death he had been bragging about how he'd gotten hold of sensational shots of the crash and final moments of Princess Diana in the tunnel. To those around him, it was quite obvious that Jean-Paul Andanson had every intention of selling those photos to the highest bidder.

Evidently when tale of his activities filtered down to the ears of the masterminds behind the accident-assassination, their response was quick, simple and decisive…Andanson had to go! I mean it just wouldn't do to have a loose cannon like Andanson shouting his mouth off and raking simmering coals whose flames were on the verge of being extinguished forever!

And besides, Andansons's alibi was already on very flimsy ground! If those photos got out inevitably questions would be asked; questions like "How Did He Get Them?"

For a man who was not even supposed to have been in Paris at the time of the crash (according to the statement he'd given the French Police 3 years earlier) these were fiery questions that had no place being stoked. In fact such questions could bring the whole fragile house of cards (the plot) crashing down!
Thus the decision was simple…Andanson simply had to die!

What Possessed Andanson To Break The Code Of Silence?

What could have possessed Andanson to start mouthing off the way he did when given a little more time the crash in Paris would have been nothing more than a distant memory to the public (well mostly) .

Know what I think...me thinks it all boils down to two words:

Greed & Complacency; two common weaknesses characteristic of the human state!

Quite likely after three years Andanson felt that the heat had simmered down enough, but that in itself was probably not the decisive factor that made him overly cocky. Perhaps it was the impossibly irresistible urge to share with someone...anyone...the singular part he'd played in unarguably one of the most dramatic assassinations of the 20th century...
...or maybe he found himself in desperate need of some quick hard cash so why not capitalize on that goldmine he was sitting on...surely enough time had elapsed!

Evidently enough time had not elapsed and it is amply clear that by allowing his vanity to get the better of his professionalism Andanson paid the ultimate price!
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 11:41:47 pm
The Columbine massacre.


Smokin' guns?.


--Dwayne Fuselier, the FBI agent in charge of the Columbine investigation, had at least one son in the "Trench Coat Mafia" gang.
--There is 8 missing minutes of footage from the video in the school cafeteria, from 11:14:36am to 11:22:22am.
--100+ eyewitnesses report that there were other shooters besides Harris or Klebold, some of them giving names.


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As the investigation unfolded, Fuselier came to the conclusion there was no third shooter, and that no one else was involved.


How many shooters were there? You probably know something of the many eyewitnesses who identified or described other shooters, thus indicating more than two attackers. And of course there are the many outside witnesses who saw 2 guys in trench coats plus another guy in blue jeans and white T-shirt throwing bombs. But here's another list for your perusal of people who don't fall in either catagory but whose statements clearly indicated more than 2 attackers:


Channel 7 News at 12pm(noon) on 4-20, EP 21-244
"Reporter said that numerous witnesses he spoke to who were not named said they saw 3 gunmen."

Joe Marshall(5735)
Ramona Lee Madden says he observed 3 kids with guns.

ACSO Nelson(8810)
"... a list of 3 names that the 12 witnesses ID'd from a yearbook were turned over to ACSO investigators to foreward."

Jon Curtis, janitor(2286)
Saw 2 to 4 attackers, describes 3 of them.

Eric Campbell(732)
Walked out of school at 11:20am on 4-20 and saw Harris in the parking lot with 2 or 3 other guys, wearing a white T-shirt and a backward baseball cap.

Matt Katzenmeier(5745)
Saw 4 subjects carrying bags in, according to Darlene Mesch.

Alicia Maes(22755)
Saw 4 people with trenchcoats and guns, according to Rachel Nelson. Not mentioned in Maes' 11k interview.

Trista Fogerty(23144)
"Trista said she believes, as do most other students, that there were more than 4 people involved in shooting."

Natalie Baker(2583)
Told her mother there were 2 other shooters besides H&K. (2+2=4)

Jennifer Tyndall(1226)
Sees 2 suspects, neither of which is H&K. (2+2=4)

Ryan Ezzie(2967)
Saw 4 people outside with hats on backwards. On 20612, he says he "...saw at least 4 parties dressed in black standing calmly when others were running."(by the school library)

Jordan Grimm(22432)
According to Jordan's aunt, he saw H&K and 2 others together ouside school just before the incident began. Not mentioned in Grimm's own 11k interview(5760).

DPD dispatch log(9219)
"Male called from Canada and was talking with female student at Columbine and she told him there are 4 suspects not 2 but no further information."

John Spahlinger(1176)
Clement Park maintenance worker, "a majority of the students Spahlinger helped informed him there had been a trench coat mafia gang shooting over at the high school and that there were 4 shooters involved." Follow-up interview says "Spahlinger stated he had no further info to report and that he did not know where someone got that he had(sic) witnessed 5 individuals exit a black vehicle while working in the park."

Camille Campbell(7446)
Denies having CHS friends who told her about 4 shooters, 2 of whom discarded their trenchcoats and fled into the crowd.

Thornton/NorthglennPD SWAT Team, EP 9-34
At 11:35pm on 4-20 the team enters CHS for another search. "We were advised that 2 suspects(shooters) might still be in the school." (2+2=4)

Littleton PO Mike Eyman(8670)
Advised that "there were possibly 4 suspects in the school."

Dustin Gorton(10743)
"He named 2 other individuals he believed to be involved as Nathan Dykeman, Chris Morris." (2+2=4)

(8894)
"Daphne Baca had listed 4 names of possible suspects. Those names included Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Chris Morris, and Robert Perry."

Kristen Schoenhoff(4321)
While being driven out of the senior lot, she hears fireworks outside. She turns around and sees 3 males at the top of the stairs. None of them are H&K. (3+2=5)

J. Adams(7422)
Construction worker near CHS; he refers to a black BMW and a small tan car drive down his cul-de-sac, followed five minutes later by the sound of bombs. A co-worker says the BMW was filled with 4 teenagers, the tan car which followed it had 2 people in it(7430).

Mr. Talocco(8876)
He says that the school roof repairman saw 3 people exit vehicle with H&K. Tan vehicle followed them into the lot. The repaiman(Clarke) denies it.

Dick Strange(1194)
"It was at approximately 11:45am(??) that Strange first observed 4 to 5 individuals, all dressed in black trench coats, standing alongside CHS in the vicinity of the gymnasium."

(UFN) Vassar(4691)
Sees 4-5 individuals at 11:15am dressed in black walk away from the school, all wearing trench coats, except one, who was wearing cami pants.

Seth Biggi(2475)
Was told by Courtney Shakowski she saw 4 to 5 TCMers enter cafeteria with a big, black duffel bag. Shakowski's interview itself(1157) only refers to 5 possible suspects in the parking lot.

Devon Adams(10614)
Names 3 (Redacted) names as being directly involved in the Columbine shooting--they are not H&K. (3+2=5)

Boulder PD SWAT Timeline(8245)
2130 hours: "2 suspects believed dead inside, 1 arrest, 1-2 other supects/associates."

Pat McDuffy(10786)
A member of the TCM names 5 people in the attack group. Says another 5 helped plan the attack and helped provide guns and bombs.

Barbara Karnkusis(7523)
At about 7:30am on 4-20 she saw a group of 5 to 6 people, dressed in black, standing at the corner of Pierce and the first street south of the school. One of them looked older, in his mid 20s with short blond hair. Two of them sitting on a large black backpack.

Nick Buhrer(2583)
Was told by Sean Graves in a hospital visit that he saw 5 or 6 people throwing 'devices' in the cafeteria.

Melissa Chavez(9023)
Met H&K and 4 other boys at the mall. They showed her a map of where they would bomb the school. (2+4=6)

Tim Kastle(3416)
Tells IOs of 5 suspects.

Rusty Schyler(4463)
According to Lacey Smith, he told her that he had seen 6 shooters.

Pam Wood(8902)
Got call at work in Pennys at South West Plaza from students trapped in school. One saw 6 trenchcoats and that all were shooting handguns.

Amy Terry(2207)
Was told by friend Elisha Encinias that she was in the commons when trench coaters(2 or more presumably) with masks on came in shooting. Running upstairs, she sees 4 people in trenchcoats coming in through the glass doors at the west end of the main hallway.(2+4=6)

Bryan Frye(806)
Told the IOs that while crawling past the admin office(where he had just heard gunshots), he saw 5 or 6 persons all dressed in black.

LFD Capt. Mike Gorman,. EP 1-335
"Capt. Gorman told me the only information was that there were 5 to 6 shooters from the Trench Coat Mafia."

JCSO Kevin Walker, EP 1-223
"Dep. Walker related the communications center advised there were approximately 6 gunmen, dressed in black."

JCSO Vincent DiManna, EP 1-363
At 11:35, JeffCo. Lt. Manwaring "advised him there were as many as 7 gunmen inside the cafeteria and commons area."

CBSNews.com, 4-19-2001
"They(the cops) believed that they really had 6 to 8 armed individuals inside there."

Eric Campbell(732)
Says fellow student Jessica Cave(1820) says she saw 10 shooters at the school(Jessica herself was not interviewed).

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As the investigation unfolded, Fuselier came to the conclusion that Dylan Klebold was the victim of Eric Harris, there was no third shooter, and that no one else was involved.

--Upwards of 95 bombs were allegedly transported and planted in/around the school. The bombs were in the school before Harris & Klebold turned up & couldn't have been carried in by only two people.
--Witnesses reported hearing automatic gunfire. Harris and Klebold only had semi-automatics.
--The photos of Harris and Klebold's bodies show that neither could have killed themselves.
--Witnesses saw people being shot by assailants in the cafeteria, where no one officially died.
--Two hours prior to the shooting, a call on a special government line warned a local hospital.
--Police found a military-grade bomb in the kitchen of the school. It was described as "sophisticated".
--Shots rang out well into the afternoon (As late as 3:45), even though the shooting officially ended at noon.
--Police/EMS units and government snipers on surrounding buildings were under stand-down orders.
--The school was "half-empty" when the attack occurred, indicating mass foreknowledge in the community.




After the massacre, a number of witnesses with important information about the attack started turning up dead:

Bobby Patterson (Possible associate of Harris and Klebold, Possible associate of victim Isaiah Shoels) -- Hung himself about a week after the massacre.

Sean Brenner (Student at a local high school, Heard rumors about the massacre before it occurred) -- Committed suicide about two weeks after the massacre.

Dana Plato (Actress, Associate of Rachel Scott, Allegedly engaged in electroshock mind-control experiments with Scott) -- Died from a drug overdose two and a half weeks after the massacre.

Antuwane Johnson (Music producer, Friend of the family of victim Isaiah Shoels, Was producing a CD about Columbine, Was financing a private investigation into the massacre) -- Shot dead in a parking lot a month after the massacre. The police found no motive or suspects.

Vikki Buckley (Colorado Secretary of State, Announced support for the Shoels family's attempts to investigate the massacre) -- Collapsed in her home and died two months after the massacre.

Corey Hager (Columbine student, Witness to the Cafeteria shooting) -- Died in a North Dakota car crash three months after the massacre.

Carla Hochhalter (Mother of an injured Columbine student) -- Committed suicide in a gun shop six months after the massacre.

Nicholas Kunselman (Columbine student) -- Shot dead in a Subway restaurant 10 months after the massacre. No suspects or motive was ever found, and evidence of a professional sniper (bullet holes in the windows) was observed. The surveillance camera was off.

Stephanie Hart (Columbine student whose statement was missing from the official documents) -- Shot dead in a Subway restaurant 10 months after the massacre. No suspects or motive was ever found, and evidence of a professional sniper (bullet holes in the windows) was observed. The surveillance camera was off.

Greg Barnes (Columbine student, Key witness to teacher Dave Sanders' death) -- Hung himself a year after the massacre, despite reports that he was upbeat and had moved on.

Ben Kuhn (Columbine student, Lived in the area but was not a Columbine student at the time of the massacre) -- Found hung two years after the massacre.

Teresa Miller (Columbine teacher, Key witness to teacher Dave Sanders' death) -- Died of a mysterious cancer three years after the massacre.

Jonathan Ladd (Columbine eyewitness, Heard shots near the main office area) -- Died in a bizarre airplane collision over Denver four years after the massacre.

Joseph Stair (Former Columbine student, Co-founder of the Trench Coat Mafia, Shooter/Accomplice according to the witnesses) -- Hung himself in September 2007, days before the Columbine memorial ceremony. His funeral was held on the day of the ceremony (ritualistic?).

Bill Black (Police officer who responded to the Columbine Massacre) -- Died of cancer in June 2007.

Lydie J. Perry (Suspect Robert Perry's mother and alibi witness) -- Died of unknown causes in 2008.

Russ Cook (Sheriff of Jefferson County after John Stone, Questioned the official version of Columbine, Was planning to write a tell-all book about Columbine and Jefferson County) -- Died of unknown causes in 2008


R.I.P.

(http://www.knowgangs.com/school_resources/timeline/1990_1999/Columbine_Victims.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 11:50:53 pm
Was John Lennon's murderer Mark Chapman a CIA hitman? Thirty years on, there's an extraordinary new theory.


Original Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1335479/Was-John-Lennons-murderer-Mark-Chapman-CIA-hitman-Thirty-years-theres-extraordinary-new-theory.html


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For many baby-boomers whose formative years coincided with the Swinging Sixties, a mild Monday in early December 1980 will always be remembered as the day the music died.

In New York, the enigmatic, charismatic - and frankly often loony - ex-Beatle John Lennon staggered into the entrance hall of the Dakota, the exclusive parkside mansion block that had been his home for nearly eight years.

The cassettes of a new song the 40-year-old had just recorded, called Walking On Thin Ice, clattered to the floor as he collapsed - blood flowing from four gunshot wounds.

Lennon had been heading home late from work and was hoping to catch his five-year-old son, Sean, before he went to bed.

He and Yoko Ono, his wife and musical collaborator, had been dropped by their white limousine on the pavement outside the building rather than driving through the gates and into the building’s secure courtyard.

Yoko hurried on ahead, nodding blankly at a stranger in the shadows — there were always fans and hangers-on lurking outside the Dakota for a glimpse of their hero.

Her husband trudged behind and had taken three or four strides when a voice called out: ‘Mr Lennon?’

The star slowed and then turned to look. Instantly, he registered that he’d seen this man a few times lately — and, earlier that day, had even autographed an LP cover for him.

But now the stranger had a different purpose. He was down on one knee in a combat stance, a .38 r*****er clasped in his hands.

Five shots rang out and four dum-dum bullets, specially adapted to cause maximum physical damage, slammed into Lennon’s back, side and shoulder.

The musician got as far as the lobby before blurting out: ‘I’m shot! I’m shot!’ He was dead on arrival at hospital a quarter of an hour later.

Meanwhile, the killer, pudgy 25-year-old Mark Chapman, stood quietly at the scene. On the ground lay the smoking gun he had let fall from his hands, beside Lennon’s blood-stained glasses.

Leaning nonchalantly against the wall of the Dakota, Chapman then began flicking through a copy of Catcher In The Rye, J.D. Salinger’s famous novel of adolescent alienation, whose central character was apparently the inspiration for what he had just done.

When the cops arrived, he made no attempt to escape. As his hands were cuffed and he was bundled into a squad car, he explained: ‘I acted alone.’ At precinct headquarters, he told detectives: ‘Lennon had to die.’

To a world shocked by Lennon’s violent and seemingly pointless death, it became clear that Chapman was a delusional nerd. He took drugs and was psychologically disturbed.

Bullied at school, he sought refuge in an imaginary world where he exercised power over other people.

A rootless adult who never settled into a proper job, he found solace for his empty life in the music of The Beatles. A loner himself, he identified with the reclusive side of Lennon’s insecure, mixed-up personality.

But revelations of Lennon’s vast wealth and burgeoning business empire turned Chapman’s hero-worship on its head.

He felt betrayed, personally insulted. He stalked and shot his erstwhile hero out of a weird sense of retribution — coupled with a desire to be famous for something.

So the story went. But, with the 30th anniversary of Lennon’s death next week, a theory has resurfaced that challenges this long-held conventional view.

Though seemingly far-fetched, if true it would startle and appal the millions of fans who still idolise Lennon.

In a new book, author Phil Strongman claims that Chapman was a stooge. Lennon’s real assassin was the CIA — at the behest of Right-wing fanatics in the American political establishment.

He gets to this controversial conclusion by contesting many of the so-called ‘facts’ about the case — including the basic assumption that Chapman was a Beatles and Lennon fan.

Strongman writes that, until the weekend before the killing: ‘Chapman, the supposed Lennon “obsessive” and “fan of fans”, did not own one Lennon single, book or album. Not one. Some “fan”, some “obsession”.’

He dismisses the often-made claim that Chapman had 14 hours of tapes of Lennon’s songs in his rucksack on the day of the shooting. ‘They have never been photographed or produced for the simple reason that they do not exist.’

So Chapman wasn’t just a celebrity stalker who went too far. Nor, says Strongman, did he kill Lennon for 15 minutes of fame.

‘If he was an attention-seeker, then why did he turn down the chance of what would have been the trial of the century? By pleading guilty, Chapman missed all of this attention he was supposedly seeking. Why?’.

It is the killer’s calmness after the shooting that Strongman sees as the key to what really happened, providing evidence for his theory that Lennon’s death was a state-sponsored conspiracy.

If Chapman looked like a zombie, as he hung around after the killing and waited for the police, it was because that was exactly what he was.

Chapman, he suggests, had been recruited by the CIA and trained by them during his travels round the world, when he mysteriously pitched up in unlikely places for a boy from Georgia.

How strange, for example, that Chapman should visit Beirut at a time when the Lebanese capital was a hive of CIA activity — and was said to be home to one of the agency’s top-secret assassination training camps. Another camp
was supposedly in Hawaii, where Chapman lived for a number of years.

And who funded the penniless young man’s round-the-world trip in 1975, which took in Japan, the UK, India, Nepal, Korea, Vietnam and China.?

Money never seemed to be a problem for Chapman, but no one has ever explained where it came from. The distinct possibility remains, in Strongman’s opinion, that the secret service was his paymaster.

And somewhere along the line his mind was infiltrated. With Chapman, the CIA could have drawn on its long experience of using mind-controlling drugs and techniques such as hypnosis to produce assassins who would eliminate trouble-makers, and ‘patsies’, the fall guys on whom such killings could be blamed.

Strongman claims: ‘Catcher In The Rye was part of Chapman’s hypnotic programming, a trigger that could be “fired” at him by a few simple keywords [via] a
cassette tape message, telex or telegram or even a mere telephone call.

’It’s certainly true that conspiracy theorists have long suspected both the Americans and their communist foes of using such techniques to activate ‘sleeper’ assassins — as fictionalised in the film The Manchurian Candidate.

The author is uncertain whether Chapman fell into the category of unwitting killer or unwitting accomplice.

But his deep suspicion is that Chapman did not act alone — any more, he says, than Lee Harvey Oswald did in the murder of JFK in Dallas or Sirhan Sirhan in Bobby Kennedy’s death. He even doubts if Chapman fired the fatal shots.

‘The bullets slapped into Lennon’s body so closely together that pathologists later had trouble marking out the different entry points. If all of these shots came from Chapman, it was a miraculous piece of shooting.

'Put simply, the authorities' investigation, or lack of it, into the assassination was shockingly slack and beggars belief.'


‘In fact, if any of them came from him it was miraculous because Chapman was standing on Lennon’s right and, as the autopsy report and death certificate later made clear, all Lennon’s wounds were in the left side of his body.’

There had to be another shooter involved, Strongman insists. He suggests that a CIA plant who worked at the Dakota building was the real killer.

What increases his suspicion is the cursory nature of the police investigation after Chapman’s arrest.

‘His bizarre post-killing calm was not questioned, his behaviour was not checked with a drugs test, his “programmed” state [a word used about him by more than one police officer] was not investigated, his previous movements were not thoroughly looked into.

‘Put simply, the authorities’ investigation, or lack or it, into the assassination was shockingly slack and beggars belief.’

It had to be, he concludes, that the FBI were conspiring with the CIA to cover up the reality — that shadowy figures in the American establishment ordered Lennon’s assassination.

But why was Lennon on their hit list? He had, it seems, rattled the cages of America’s powerful Right wing, first with his opposition to the Vietnam War and then with his campaign of pacifism.

It is here that those of us who lived through the period must pause for breath. Lennon was a mad and maddening genius, a showman and a show-off. But he was a dreamer, not a doer.

He wrote songs, he played the guitar, he had some funny ideas. He made us laugh. He was irreverent.

But he wasn’t about to bring down capitalism. He was doing much too well out of it himself for that. Grumbling to an aide one day about soaring business expenses, he was reminded: ‘Imagine no possessions, John.’ Lennon shot back: ‘It’s only a bloody song!’

Still, the fact that some of the files relating to secret service investigations into Lennon’s activities remain closed continue to fuel suspicions of a cover-up.

Strongman writes: ‘I am as convinced as any human being can be that elements of both the FBI and CIA were undoubtedly behind a cover-up in December 1980. They were also deeply involved in the killing itself.’
'I felt that by killing him I would become somebody and, instead of that, I became a murderer and murderers are not somebodies.'


Meanwhile, Chapman — crazy stalker or robot assassin — lives on. Strangely, if Strongman’s theory is true, he has managed to survive three decades in one of America’s most violent prisons despite the dangerous information he must still possess.

He remains in Attica, 30 years into his life sentence and well beyond the 20-year minimum decreed by the judge who sentenced him.

When asked by a parole board in 2006 to explain why he murdered Lennon, Chapman said: ‘The result would be that I would be famous . . . I would receive a tremendous amount of attention, which I did receive.’

Earlier this year, he told another parole board that back in 1980 he had a long list of potential targets, which included Liz Taylor, chat-show host Johnnie Carson and Paul McCartney.

‘They were famous, that was it,’ he said, and by killing them he would achieve ‘instant notoriety’.

He hit on Lennon, he explained, only because the Dakota was easy to get at. ‘I felt that by killing him I would become somebody and, instead of that, I became a murderer, and murderers are not somebodies. Instead of taking my life I took somebody else’s, which was unfortunate.’

In 2006, his fourth application for release — opposed as it has always been by Yoko Ono — was refused, as it was again in 2008 and once more this year. He is eligible to try again in 2012.

John Lennon — Life, Times And Assassination, by Phil Strongman from The Bluecoat Press at £8.99. To order a copy (p&p free), call 0845 155 0720.



Chapman stinks of being an MK-ULTRA asset.


USA vs John Lennon documentary.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=777046699234389996# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=777046699234389996#)
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 11:53:55 pm
Kurt Cobain Murdered?.


Original Link: http://justiceforkurt.com/


Kurt Cobain left a drug rehab center in Marina Del Rey California on April 1, 1994 and was later reported missing. As you probably know, he was found dead just seven days later.

My name is Tom Grant. I'm a California state licensed private investigator and former detective with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. On April 3, 1994, I was hired by Courtney Love, (who was in Los Angeles at the time), to locate her husband after he left a drug rehab center in Marina Del Rey, California. Ms. Love stayed in Los Angeles while I flew to Seattle to search for Cobain with his best friend Dylan Carlson. In fact, Carlson and I had been in the Cobain residence the night before Kurt's body was discovered in the room above the garage.

The police immediately concluded "suicide." I wasn't so sure. Neither was Rosemary Carroll, Courtney Love's own entertainment attorney. Ms. Carroll was also a close friend to both Courtney and Kurt.

Something was wrong here... terribly wrong.



After several months of intensive investigation, including dozens of taped interviews with Cobain's closest friends and family members, I reached the conclusion that Courtney Love and Michael Dewitt, (the male nanny who lived at the Cobain residence), were involved in a conspiracy that resulted in the murder of Kurt Cobain.

It appears this was not the first attempt on Cobain's life by Courtney Love. It was obviously, however, the first to succeed.

In December of 1994, I began speaking publicly about the suspicious circumstances surrounding Cobain's death. Attempts to inform the public about this case have been met with physical threats as well as threats of legal action against anyone in the media who "gives Tom Grant a platform."

Motivated by profit rather truth, Courtney Love and her attorneys have taken drastic measures in an effort to keep the public from learning the true facts of this case. In spite of all the hot air, this investigation has received coverage in hundreds of major magazines, television and radio talk shows around the world.

As I predicted when I first began speaking out, no legal action has been taken against myself or anyone in the media who have covered this story.

The pathetic cowards of this world can only blow smoke. Once they've been exposed, they run and hide

The events surrounding the death of Kurt Cobain are filled with lies, contradictions in logic, and countless inconsistencies.

Here is just some of...
WHAT YOU WERE NEVER TOLD:


COURTNEY LOVE WAS FACING A DIVORCE
Kurt was in the process of leaving Seattle and his wife Courtney, when he was found dead.

Courtney knew Kurt wanted out of the marriage. Just weeks prior to his death, she asked one of her attorneys to get the "meanest, most vicious divorce lawyer" she could find.


SOMEONE WAS USING KURT'S CREDIT CARD
One of Kurt's credit cards was missing when his body was discovered.

Someone was attempting to use the missing credit card after Cobain died, but the attempts stopped when his body was discovered.

COBAIN WAS IN FEAR OF HIS LIFE
The shotgun found at the scene was purchased BEFORE Cobain left for rehab in Los Angeles, NOT AFTER he fled the rehab as reported by misinformed media sources.

The shotgun was fully loaded with three shells. It was purchased and loaded for protection, not suicide.

The police claim there were no legible fingerprints on this shotgun!

The truth is, the shotgun wasn't even checked for fingerprints until May 6th, nearly one month after Cobain's body was found.

THERE WAS NO "SUICIDE" NOTE!!
The note found at the scene by the police was immediately labeled as a "suicide note." The police report states it was "apparently written by Cobain to his wife and daughter, explaining why he had killed himself."

But this note was not addressed to Kurt's wife and daughter and it says nothing about "killing himself!" This note was clearly written to Cobain's fans telling them he was quitting the music business. There was only a short footnote to Courtney and Frances and the handwriting contained in those lines has been questioned by several handwriting experts.

COURTNEY HAD ANOTHER NOTE SHE KEPT IN SECRET!
Courtney was in possession of a second note after Kurt's body was found! SHE DIDN'T TELL ANYONE about this second note until several months later when information about it slipped out during an interview with Rolling Stone Magazine.

The second note, the one that Courtney kept in secret, clearly defines the first note which was found at the scene of Cobain's death. The "second note" from Kurt plainly states he was leaving Courtney and he was leaving Seattle. He was NOT leaving the planet!

COBAIN WAS INJECTED WITH 3 TIMES A LETHAL DOSE OF HEROIN!!
Cobain's heroin, (morphine), blood level was 1.52 mgs per liter. This would require a minimum injection of 225 mgs of heroin, three times a lethal dose, even for a hardcore heroin addict! The drug Diazepam, was also found in Cobain's blood system.

THE OBVIOUS QUESTIONS:
1. If Cobain injected himself with a deliberate heroin overdose, why would he ALSO shoot himself in the head with a shotgun, leaving his baby daughter - the love of his life - with horrific visual images to remember him by? Why not just "go to sleep" on the overdose and never wake up?

2. IF Cobain injected three times a lethal dose of heroin, COULD he then pick up a shotgun and shoot himself? Wouldn't he have been immediately incapacitated?

Based on the heroin, (morphine), blood levels found in Cobain's body, preliminary research indicates Kurt Cobain would have been immediately incapacitated. He could not have picked up that shotgun. He could not have pulled that trigger!

IN ADDITION...
Cobain was not barricaded inside the room as reported by misinformed media sources.

The stool which was supposedly wedged" against the door was actually just sitting in front of the two unlocked doors that only led out to a balcony.

Cobain did not leave his Driver’s License out for identification as reported by misinformed media sources.

The first police officer on the scene found Cobain's closed wallet, opened it to remove Kurt's driver's license, and displayed it in order to take a photograph.

THE FACT IS...
The police and the Medical Examiner have no forensic evidence that proves Cobain's death was a suicide. On the other hand, there's a substantial amount of evidence for murder.

The official verdict of "suicide" was simply a rush to judgement which eventually painted the authorities into a corner as reports of so-called "copy-cat" suicides began making the news.

As you examine this case carefully, you're going to discover there's much more to the events surrounding Cobain's death than what you've been told.



http://cobaincase.com/ (http://cobaincase.com/)
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 21, 2011, 11:58:35 pm
The assassination of RFK.


It's pretty much a clear cut fact the C.I.A were behind both assassination's.

Sirhan Sirhan stinks of another MK-ULTRA asset.


Watch RFK Must Die The Assassination Of Bobby Kennedy: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4567764/RFK_Must_Die_The_Assassination_Of_Bobby_Kennedy_2007_DVDRip_XviD.


Reason: If he got into office he was going to hunt down those responsible for his brother's death (John F. Kennedy).
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: ARowe on February 24, 2011, 03:32:51 am
rep'd

please post more

I love this shit



My sophomore year of hs we had to give a persuasive speech. I did mine on why the single bullet theory (JFK assassination) was incorrect. I knew that shit so well, drew a diagram of it on the board. Teacher gave me a fucking B, told somebody else it was boring. Bish.

I have a few dvds on the jfk assassination. One of the things I found most interesting was all of the mysterious deaths that happened to people that were in some way involved.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 24, 2011, 05:22:40 pm
Funny $hit.


Conspiracy Theory: Jesse Ventura Investigates the Pro Wrestling Hoax.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXCptu3ckMI
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 24, 2011, 05:29:56 pm
I have a few dvds on the jfk assassination. One of the things I found most interesting was all of the mysterious deaths that happened to people that were in some way involved.

You gotta shut them up for fear of contradicting official claims.

Just like they shut Oswald up.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 28, 2011, 08:05:59 am
Osama bin Laden, A.K.A. CIA Asset "Tim Osman".


Original Link: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread342338/pg1


Osama bin Ladin aka Tim Osman with Zbigniew Brzezinski in the late 1980's on the Afghanistan border.

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Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: LanceSTS on February 28, 2011, 01:31:35 pm
NICE thread man, very interesting info in here!@!
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on February 28, 2011, 02:56:52 pm
Was the Oklahoma City bombing an Inside Job?.

Original Link: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread413625/pg1



Banned footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMrYeMTXifc



Coverup in Oklahoma. Length: 1:47:57.

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Original Link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7268764172883869415#


This documentary examines eyewitness accounts and news media reports documenting the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City. Included with this presentation is a video affidavit of bombing survivor Jane C. Graham, and her sightings of strange individuals in the building prior to the tragic event.



-A minister was required to give his ID six times before he was allowed to help in the search for survivors. This same minister said that men in suits and ties were putting plastic sheetings over portions of the building wreckage and stepping over the wounded to remove files that were lying around (presumably from the building) from the scene. The building debris was cleaned up by Controlled Demolition Inc. (Also cleaned up the World Trade Center debris) and buried under the watchful eyes of armed guards.

Original Link: http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/ok.php


-Arlene Blanchard, a survivor, was gagged by the US Army. She was not allowed to tell her story. She was threatened under court martial.

Original Link: http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/bombs/blanchard.jpg


-Despite the fact that many eyewitnesses saw more than one bomber, the government claims that there was only one. Not surprisingly, they will not release any footage from the security cameras.

Original Link: http://www.greatdreams.com/john-doe-2.htm


-Timothy McVeigh's Ryder truck was photographed in an Army compound in Northern Oklahoma days before the bombing.

Original Link: http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/TRUCK/truck.html


-In 1993, McVeigh wrote a letter to his sister. In the letter, he claimed that he had joined an "elite squad of government paid assassins." after being approached by military intelligence.


-A video shot over a year after McVeigh was said to have left the army shows him in US military uniform, at a US base that specializes in explosives and demolition training.

Original Link: http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/okc_bombing_mcveigh_video_destroys_okc_official_story.htm


-Just like JFK, 9-11, and Columbine, key witnesses were killed in the aftermath. Terrence Yeakey was one of the first police officers to be on the scene. He called his wife and said "It's not true. It's not what they are saying. It didn't happen that way.". He did his own investigation and was harassed by authorities. He was last seen by a friend who said that he said he "was being followed by the feds and had to shake them."

Original Link: http://www.apfn.org/APFN/yeakey.htm


-The ATF were not in the building that day. Initial reports and sworn affidavits reveal that the ATF was warned by pagers not to come in that day. Also, ATF agents appeared in full bomb gear minutes after the blast. This bomb gear takes at least half an hour to put on. Either they were waiting just around the corner or they had been conducting 'coincidental' training drills involving a bomb blast that day.



What did Sgt. Terrance Yeakey know?.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKrUr734fEI




Oklahoma City Bombing Tapes Appear Edited: Attorney (VIDEO).


Original Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/27/oklahoma-city-bombing-tap_n_301293.html


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OKLAHOMA CITY (AP)-- Long-secret security tapes showing the chaos immediately after the 1995 bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building are blank in the minutes before the blast and appear to have been edited, an attorney who obtained the recordings said Sunday.



Oklahoma bombing, FBI involved.

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Oklahoma City bombing conspirator Terry Nichols says a high-ranking FBI official "apparently" was directing Timothy McVeigh in the plot to blow up a government building and might have changed the original target of the attack, according to a new affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Utah. The official and other conspirators are being protected by the federal government "in a cover-up to escape its responsibility for the loss of life in Oklahoma," Nichols claims in a Feb. 9 affidavit.
Documents that supposedly help back up his allegations have been sealed to protect information in them, such as Social Security numbers and dates of birth. The U.S. Attorney's Office in Utah had no comment on the allegations. The FBI and Justice Department in Washington, D.C., also declined comment.

Nichols does not say what motive the government would have to be involved in the bombing. The affidavit was filed in a lawsuit brought by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue, who believes his brother's death in a federal prison was linked to the Oklahoma City bombing. The suit, which seeks documents from the FBI under the federal Freedom of Information Act, alleges that authorities mistook Kenneth Trentadue for a bombing conspirator and that guards killed him in an interrogation that got out of hand. Trentadue's death a few months after the April 19, 1995, bombing was ruled a suicide after several investigations. The government has adamantly denied any wrongdoing in the death.

In his affidavit, Nichols says he wants to bring closure to the survivors and families of the attack on the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, which took 168 lives. He alleges he wrote then-Attorney General John Ashcroft in 2004, offering to help identify all parties who played a role in the bombing but never got a reply. Nichols is serving a life sentence at the U.S. Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility in Florence, Colo. McVeigh, who carried out the bombing, was executed in 2001.

McVeigh and Nichols were the only defendants indicted in the bombing. However, Nichols alleges others were involved.
McVeigh told him he was recruited for undercover missions while serving in the military, according to Nichols. He says he learned sometime in 1995 that there had been a change in the bombing target and that McVeigh was upset by that.
"There, in what I believe was an accidental slip of the tongue, McVeigh revealed the identity of a high-ranking FBI official who was apparently directing McVeigh in the bomb plot," Nichols says in the affidavit.

Nichols also says that McVeigh threatened him and his family to force him to rob Roger Moore, an Arkansas gun dealer, of weapons and explosives. He later learned the robbery was staged so Moore, who was in on the phony heist, could deny any knowledge of the bombing plot if the stolen items were traced back to him, Nichols claims.He adds that Moore allegedly told his attorney that he would not be prosecuted in connection with the bombing because he was a "protected witness."

Moore could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

In addition, Nichols says McVeigh must have had help building the bomb. The device he and McVeigh built the day before the bombing did not resemble the one that ultimately was used, Nichols says, and "displayed a level of expertise and sophistication" that neither man had.

Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: Dreyth on March 02, 2011, 12:02:39 am
Ever heard of the holohoax? Google that... will blow you away. I can't believe it, but I mean, I just can't deny the evidence........
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 02, 2011, 03:47:47 pm
Playing God with the Weather.


Must watch video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LbyEqEzTWc


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'All started suddenly and thousands died, millions displaced, hundreds of villages vanished in the matter of just 4 days!!…strangely there were no weather warnings, no alarms.. these are the worst floods in the history of Pakistan BUT no one from Global MET offices could even trace what is going on in this region?.

We have investigated this matter and concluded that HAARP has recently been used in NW area of Pakistan .. the choice of starting point was perfect.. all the flood is going in downstream i.e. Khyber (Hills) to Karachi (Sea)… it is designed to submerge entire Pakistan and bring up the worst crises and chaos ever happened.. they know they cant win a war with Nuclear armed Pakistan – it would be a mutual destruction, so they have other ways to do it!.'

Pakistan Flood: HAARP Used in Pakistan?.


Original Link: http://www.pakalertpress.com/2010/08/06/pakistan-flood-photos-haarp-fingerprints-found-allover/

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All started suddenly and thousands died, millions displaced, hundreds of villages vanished in the matter of just 4 days!!…strangely there were no weather warnings, no alarms..none of the global met offices was able to predict torrential downpours that precipitated the worst floods in Pakistan’s history. Was HAARP involved?

We have investigated this matter and concluded that HAARP is being used in Pakistan and of course  how can we ignore India’s Baglihar & Kabul’s Sarobi Dams contribution in this perfect plan! This Flood Disaster is More Manmade than Natural. The choice of starting point was perfect.. all the flood is going in downstream i.e. Khyber (Hills) to Karachi (Sea)…  it is designed to submerge entire Pakistan and bring up the worst crises and chaos ever happened.. they know they cant win a war with Nuclear armed Pakistan – it would be a mutual destruction, so they have other ways to do it!

Update: New satellite images reveal the full extent of the Pakistan floods.

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The above image was taken on August 15, 2010, while the one below was snapped one year ago. The blue patches show the extend of the flooding, which have left 20 million people homeless.

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The extend of the flooding is particularly obvious in these images, taken on August 14, 2009 and August 15, 2010 which show visible swelling of the Indus and Jhelum Rivers.


Andrei Areshev a renowned Russian Scholar and the deputy head of the Strategic Culture Foundation warns that the current devastating fires raging throughout Russia could have been triggered by American weather weapons what is now becoming the infamous HAARP Technology. Read full report

“It isn’t just conspiracy theorists who are concerned about HAARP. The European Union called the project a global concern and passed a resolution calling for more information on its health and environmental risks. Despite those concerns, officials at HAARP insist the project is nothing more sinister than a radio science research facility.”
– Quote from a TV-documentary on HAARP by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC). Read full report

HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) is a little-known, yet critically important U.S. military defense program which has generated quite a bit of controversy over the years in certain circles. Though denied by HAARP officials, some respected researchers allege that secret electromagnetic warfare capabilities of HAARP are designed to forward the US military’s stated goal of achieving full-spectrum dominance by the year 2020. Others go so far as to claim that HAARP can and has been used for weather modification, to cause earthquakes and tsunamis, to disrupt global communications systems, and more.


Original Link: http://www.pakalertpress.com/2010/08/03/haarp-secret-weapon-used-for-weather-modification-electromagnetic-warfare-videos/
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 02, 2011, 03:57:06 pm
Ever heard of the holohoax? Google that... will blow you away. I can't believe it, but I mean, I just can't deny the evidence........

I have some good links on the Holocaust hoax. I will put them in this message soon.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 07, 2011, 03:53:40 pm
WTC Attack September 11, 2001 from New York Police Helicopter.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w465MHsvYpg
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: mattyg35 on March 07, 2011, 06:05:23 pm
That video is pretty long, is there something I should be looking for or have noticed?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: ARowe on March 08, 2011, 01:12:43 am
you got anything on the moon landing?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 08, 2011, 06:39:37 pm
you got anything on the moon landing?

Good link to start: http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi


Moon Landing Hoax - Wires Footage.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE


You can see the wires glinting in the studio light (although they could have been light reflecting in the lens or a glitch in the film)?.




NASA - What Happened on the Moon - 2 of 2.

Original Link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3186616594425246748#

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"If some of the film was spoiled, it's remotely possible they [NASA] may have shot some scenes in a studio environment to avoid embarrassment." - David Groves, PhD. This compelling video throws into serious doubt the authenticity of the Apollo missions and features information that challenges the declared abilities of NASA to successfully send a man to the Moon and return him safely to Earth. New evidence clearly suggests that NASA hoaxed pictures allegedly taken on the lunar surface. These findings are supported by analysis and the testimony of experts from various disciplines, including photographer/filmmaker David S. Percy ARPS and physicist David Groves PhD. Hear what NASA has to say in response to these disturbing findings."





Also watch: The Truth Behind the Moon Landings (2003).

Original Link: http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/truth_behind_the_moon_landings.php

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"Documentary debunking the conspiracy theories surrounding the first moon landing".





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“OUR MEN ON THE MOON:
THE TRUTH BEHIND OUR MANNED LUNAR MISSIONS REVEALED”
A Commentary By Sheldan Nidle


Introduction
“For untold centuries, our ancestors dreamed of traveling to the Moon and back. Only in the last century has such a seemingly impossible journey become feasible. Interest peaked in the 1960s, with the ‘space race’ between the United States and the Soviet Union. Out of that competition, eventually, emerged the Apollo Moon program. Apollo sent nine crews of astronauts on missions to either circumnavigate or land on the Moon. Still, many questions surround these missions, including: Did Apollo actually land on the Moon? What did the Apollo astronauts actually encounter while en route to the Moon? What did they experience while on the Moon? Let us now review these cogent questions to see what really occurred.

The Truth About the Moon
Contrary to popular belief, our Moon is not actually Earth’s natural satellite, but an artificial one that replaced Mother Earth’s natural satellites during the tragic, long-ago destructions of Lemuria and, later, Atlantis. The unmanned probes that landed on the Moon in the early and mid-1960s conducted experiments proving that the Moon ‘rang like a bell’, an unusual phenomenon that resulted from the enormous titanium alloy shell upon which the Moon’s crust is laid. Moreover, the Moon’s atmosphere is very slight, with a specific gravity much higher than the commonly held and popularly expounded beliefs of Earth’s scientific community. Also, between Earth and Moon exists a multi-layered band of radiation called the Van Allen Belt that can make any trip to Earth’s moon potentially dangerous.

Apollo’s Bizarre Beginnings
For most of the 1960s, Apollo labored under the burden of a martyred president’s mandate to land U.S. astronauts on the Moon before the end of the decade. Consequently, the real powers behind the ‘space race’ were pressured to engage in some apparently bizarre behaviors, which caused its deepest detractors to raise serious questions about the Apollo program’s validity. To its scientific critics, the Apollo program seemed either to be an enormous hoax or a massive ‘cover-up’.

In fact, it was both. Apollo was surrounded by a massive UFO cover-up, as well as by a space agency ‘up to its eyeballs’ in the exotic technology that resulted from that cover-up. Global black operations, created by the world’s ruling cabals so as to deal with the ‘alien presence’ and its exotic technology, kept close watch on the space race. Remember that the period of the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s abounded in the many outlandish consequences of the ‘cold war’, and Apollo proved to be no exception. The Moon was the site of various alien bases and of a strategic ‘high ground’ much coveted by our military leaders and planners.

Was Apollo a Hoax or a Cover-up or was it Real?
The Moon was a future base that had already been secretly occupied by different groups of off-worlders and their invited guest – global black ops. Many leaders in global black ops saw Apollo as a way to acquire some important advantages for their earthly masters with these strange ‘off-worlders’. But they still required a neat, squeaky-clean, ‘apple pie’ cover story to prevent sudden public uproar concerning the covered-up existence of these ETs.

To the public, these highly publicized men with the ‘right stuff’ were the heroes of the Apollo mission, courageously traveling through outer space on normal, rocketry-equipped hardware. In fact, the astronauts were merely pawns, held to secrecy by governmental non-disclosure oaths.

Nothing was, as it appeared to be. A complex plot with sinister goals was now afoot. Apollo had to go to the Moon, but not just to discover what was there. In reality, the Apollo project was to be used to create a form of ‘bargaining chip’ for use in ongoing negotiations with global black ops’ highly secret ‘allies’ – a group of dark star-nations.

Beginning in the late 1950s, this same group of dark off-worlders had brought several specially selected military and civilian scientists to their inner-Moon bases. Global black ops acquired their alien-based technology by either retrieving ‘crashed’ UFOs or back-engineering vehicles that the dark aliens had given them. Yet global black ops felt that they lacked an essential tool. They needed to discover extra ways to accumulate more advanced alien technology and to obtain greater freedom for their special operations at the alien Moon bases. Global black ops needed a ploy. They invented Apollo.

Apollo’s Smoke and Mirrors

The Apollo project needed to develop some very special hardware in order to meet its end-of-decade deadline. To the public, this hardware had to appear normal at all times. The global community had to firmly believe that we went to the Moon using only advanced rocketry and other ‘state-of-the-art’ technology. In addition, Apollo’s secret payloads, including the advanced alien technology, had to be easily hidden. Moreover, the Moon had to appear exactly as Earth’s scientists had previously described it. To enable this to happen, the Apollo project, from its inception, was divided into three parts, like Caesar’s Gaul. First, global black ops established a specially constructed television studio at a secret Earth location. Second, Apollo astronauts were deliberately given badly focused or ‘grainy’ video cameras for use on the Moon. Third, to make Apollo seem real enough and so as not to reveal the existence of the dark ETs and their exotic technology, the Apollo project later released a number of ‘doctored’ and/or specially made photographs. Selected optical scientists and technicians, ‘borrowed’ from other global black ops projects, had manufactured them.

Initially, the Apollo project required unusually high levels of internal secrecy and of specially focused publicity. In order to succeed, global black ops had again to consult their true masters – the sundry groups of secret cabals that long had exerted influence in controlling Earth’s high finances and its various governments. The mass media had to be prevented from delving into the ‘right places’ and destroying this very expensive cover-up. Essential government departments and their allied agencies, which were involved in the Apollo project, needed to be kept from taking part in any sudden ‘independent investigations’. A manufactured ‘united front’ such as this was needed to carry out the massive cover-up successfully. Thus, at all times, Apollo had to create the outward appearance of being non-military. According to this fiction, Apollo was simply a fact-finding scientific expedition to our closest neighbor – the Moon. On the contrary, Apollo was actually global black ops’ mission to show the dark ‘aliens’ our secret trump card, thereby gaining much-needed concessions from them.

For Apollo to reach the Moon, global black ops employed some of its back-engineered alien technology, which was expressly designed to assist Apollo in successfully landing on the Moon and returning to Earth. This equipment was also able to protect the three-man crew from any dangerous radiation they encountered while in Earth-Moon space. Global black ops deeply believed that both good and bad aliens would closely watch over Apollo’s many voyages to the Moon. Therefore, they developed a specific code to communicate important facts to ground control. But this code had a second, more sinister intent – to keep the public from knowing what was really happening to Apollo. For example, on one flight, UFOs were identified as ‘Santa Claus’ and, during a Christmas circumnavigation of the Moon, one astronaut stated, “there really is a Santa Claus”. According to the code, he meant that many alien observational craft (or UFOs) surrounded Apollo. Many other ‘tricks’ were involved in carrying out this elaborate cover-up.

A Trip to the Moon

Each manned Apollo mission to the Moon was carried out as a three-part project. First, the actual Apollo crew and their immediate equipment. Second, the constant series of secret television studio work that was needed to convey the image of a dark, foreboding and airless Moon. Lastly, the post-flight photo shoots that provided much-needed ‘doctored’ lunar photographs. As mentioned earlier, these photographs were meticulously produced to keep the Apollo cover-up going. A series of global black ops ‘producers’ and their large crews wove all of these elements together. These producers had direct access to the Apollo mission and to its major ground stations, including Apollo mission control centers in Texas and Florida. Every aspect was followed according to a pre-arranged script. The ill-fated Apollo 13 mission was the only exception. However, Apollo 13?s difficulties were due, not to an exploding fuel cell, but to carrying an illegal cargo, consisting of a small plutonium bomb, to the Moon.

This mission was cut short by the rapid, well-placed burst from a particle beam weapon carried onboard a trailing UFO craft. The true secret agenda of global black ops had been duly discovered and thwarted. Global black ops intended to send such ‘devices’ to the Moon and use them to gain additional concessions from their dark off-world allies. Global black ops also used incidents such as these to illustrate one crucial point to their dark allies. Regardless of what happened in space, black ops were always able to conceal these incidents as easily as they had the decades-long conspiracy involving the dark star-nations. Apollo 13 was graciously helped home by several friendly UFO craft nearby. With the help of tractor beams and other life-supporting technology, the UFO crafts allowed Apollo 13, first, to circumnavigate the Moon and, then, to land successfully on Earth.

Apollo: Its Lessons
This sudden discovery brought about the expected dissolution of the manned Apollo Moon program. Collectively, Galactic Federation of Light forces based upon the Moon and on Mars, as well as those of the dark star-nations, soon prohibited further manned missions to these spheres. This decision forced the cancellation of the proposed Apollo missions that had been scheduled beyond the mandated Apollo 17 mission.

The simple truth was that Apollo was not really intended to take man to the Moon. Beneath the Hollywood-type production and vast cover-up, the Apollo mission was an attempt at lunar sabotage and skulduggery. Apollo’s quick demise brought an end to the first chapters in America’s highly publicized manned space flight programs. It did not, however, end global black ops’ back-engineered technology programs, or its true ‘star wars’ plans. The truth is out there. However, as the saying goes, that is another story.”






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Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 14, 2011, 07:20:51 pm
Conspiracy FDR & Pearl Harbor.


Good vid.


Original Link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7736750907069936394#


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This film investigates theorys on pearl harbor and possible conspiracy(s) there has been much debate as to how and why the United States had been caught unaware, and how much and when American officials knew of Japanese plans and related topics. Some argue that various parties knew of the attack in advance and may even have let it happen or encouraged it in order to force America into war. The film includes issues of The Pearl Harbor advance-knowledge debate and others.



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MAKING PEARL HARBOR AN EASY TARGET

Was Japan facilitated in the attack? There is massive evidence to support that conclusion, but we have time here for only a few examples. A Japanese spy by the name of Tadashi Morimura was sent to Pearl Harbor under the cover of a phony political assignment at the Japanese embassy. The FBI knew that his real name was Takeo Yoshikawa and that he had been trained as a military officer. He had no political experience, so they knew his assignment to a political post was a cover. They photographed him as he came off the ship. They tracked him everywhere he went. They bugged his telephone. They knew what he was doing every minute of the day. Often he would take a car to the top of a hill overlooking the harbor and photograph the location of ships. Then he would use a clandestine radio to send coded messages to Japan giving the exact grid locations for all the ships, the times of their movements, how many soldiers and sailors were on duty, what time they reported, and what time they left the base. All of this information was clearly of military importance and pointed to the possibility of a surprise attack. The FBI wanted to arrest Yoshikawa and send him home, but the Office of Naval Intelligence intervened, with White House approval, saying: Leave this guy alone. He is our responsibility. We’ll handle it. J. Edgar Hoover, who was head of the FBI at that time, objected strongly, and it almost erupted into a contest of inter-agency authority between the FBI and Naval Intelligence. In the end, Naval Intelligence had its way, and Yoshikawa was allowed to continue his mission without even knowing he was being watched.

Just four days before the attack, U.S. Navy Intelligence intercepted this message from Yoshikawa: "NO CHANGE OBSERVED BY AFTERNOON OF 2 DECEMBER. SO FAR THEY DO NOT SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ALERTED. SHORE LEAVE AS USUAL."

On December 6, just one day before the attack, this message was intercepted: "THERE ARE NO BARRAGE BALLOONS AT THESE PLACES - AND CONSIDERABLE OPPORTUNITY IS LEFT FOR A SURPRISE ATTACK."
It was bizarre. Here was an enemy agent gathering strategic information in preparation for a surprise attack on American forces, and people at the highest levels of the United States government were protecting him. They deliberately allowed the flow of information to continue so the Japanese would be successful in their mission.

VACANT SEAS POLICY


Another example of facilitating the attack on Pearl Harbor is what was called the Vacant Seas Policy. For many months, the Navy had known from what direction the Japanese were likely to approach, what sea corridor they would use to launch their attack. They even had conducted maneuvers simulating it themselves. One was called Exercise 191 and the other OPORD1. Because of weather patterns, sea currents, location of commercial ship lanes, demand on fuel supplies, and other factors, they knew that the Japanese would approach from the North Pacific Ocean in an operational area between 157 and 158 degrees west longitude. This presented a special challenge. If the crew of any ship had seen a Japanese armada steaming toward Hawaii, they undoubtedly would have used the radio to send word ahead. They would have said: "Hey, there’s something going on here. There’s a fleet of aircraft carriers and destroyers heading your way." That, of course, would have spoiled everything. Also, if the Japanese knew that their approach had been detected, they would have lost the advantage of surprise and might have aborted their plan.

American intelligence was well aware of every stage of Japanese preparations. It was already known that Admiral Nagumo was outfitting his carrier strike force at Hitokappu Bay on the Japanese island of Etorofu. His progress was monitored closely, and daily reports were sent to Washington. His ships departed from Japan and headed for Pearl Harbor on November 25. One hour later, Navy headquarters in Washington initiated the Vacant Seas directive that all military and commercial ships must now stay out of the North Pacific corridor. They were diverted hundreds of miles on a trans-Pacific route through the Torres Straits so there would be no encounter that might alert the intended victims or cause the Japanese to abort their mission.

The next stage in this strategy was to bring the ships of the 7th Fleet home from sea duty and bottle them up inside Pearl Harbor where they could not maneuver or disperse. This, of course, would make them easy targets. To accomplish this over the strong objection of Admiral Kimmel, who was in charge of the Fleet, his superiors in Washington cut back on deliveries of fuel. Without fuel, Kimmel had no choice. He had to curtail training exercises at sea and bring two-thirds of his ships back into port. In his memoirs, published in 1955, he said: "Shortly after I organized the Fleet in three major task forces, I attempted to keep two of the three forces at sea and only one at Peal Harbor. I quickly found that fuel deliveries were falling behind consumption. The reserves were being depleted at a time when it was imperative to increase them. It was this fact, and this alone, which made it necessary to have two task forces simultaneously in Pearl Harbor." A Congressional investigation in 1946 revealed that, just a few days before the attack, Navy headquarters in Washington ordered twenty-one of the most modern ships in the 7th Fleet to leave Pearl Harbor and deploy at Wake and Midway Islands. The aircraft carriers, Lexington and Enterprise were among those ships. This not only left the remaining Fleet with drastically reduced protection, it also meant that the ships anchored in the harbor were primarily old relics from World War I, many of which were already slated to be scrapped. As Secretary of War Stimson had stated in his diaries: "The question was, how we should maneuver them into firing the first shot without allowing too much damage to ourselves." Sacrificing only the old and marginally useful ships was the solution to that problem.

Were the victims at Pear Harbor insulated from information that might have allowed them to protect themselves? Could those thousands of Americans who lost their lives been alerted in time to take defensive action? Or were they deliberately sacrificed on the alter of collectivism because their deaths were needed to create the emotional drama to justify going to war? The answer to this question is not a pleasant one.

INTERCEPTED CODED MESSAGES

Throughout this time, the Japanese were using a combination of military and diplomatic codes. United States intelligence agencies had cracked all of them. For three months prior to the allegedly surprise attack, they knew everything in minute detail. Yet, not one of those messages was ever forwarded to the commanders at Pearl Harbor. In his memoirs, Admiral Kimmel said: "At Pearl Harbor, General Short and I knew only a small part of the political story behind the Japanese attack. Care was taken not to send us the intercepted Japanese messages, which told in great detail each step in the Japanese program…. For three months prior to the attack on the fleet a wealth of vital information received in Washington was withheld from the commanders in Hawaii. The information received during the ten days preceding the attack clearly pointed to the fleet at Pearl Harbor as the Japanese objective, yet not one word of warning and none of this information was given to the Hawaii commanders."

The most important intercept of the Japanese code was obtained on the night before the attack. That message made clear even the exact hour that the strike would come. It was to be 1:00 PM Pearl Harbor time. The intercept was decoded 61?2 hours before that. It was rushed to President Roosevelt and his top military advisors for immediate action. Their response was to do absolutely nothing. They sat on it and deliberately let the clock run out.

The military Chief of Staff at that time was General George Marshall, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Marshall claimed that he was on horseback that morning, riding in the park, and the reason he did not take immediate action was that he didn’t know about the intercept until he arrived at his office at 11:25 AM, Washington time. However, even then he still had 11?2 hours before the attack. He could have picked up the telephone and spoken to the Hawaii commanders directly. He could have used any one of several military radio systems designed for exactly such kinds of urgent communications, but he did none of those things. According to witnesses, he read and re-read the intercept and shuffled the paper from one side of his desk to the other while another half hour ticked away. Then, at 11:52, he finally sent a warning to the commanders at Pearl Harbor. The method? It was a commercial telegram sent through Western Union! It arrived six hours after the attack!





Original link: http://historyrat.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/conspiracy-theory-fdr-and-pearl-harbor/
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 14, 2011, 10:34:39 pm
Lost city of Atlantis, swamped by tsunami, may be found.


Original Link: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/us-tsunami-atlantis-idUSTRE72B2JR20110312



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(Reuters) - A U.S.-led research team may have finally located the lost city of Atlantis, the legendary metropolis believed swamped by a tsunami thousands of years ago in mud flats in southern Spain.

"This is the power of tsunamis," head researcher Richard Freund told Reuters.

"It is just so hard to understand that it can wipe out 60 miles inland, and that's pretty much what we're talking about," said Freund, a University of Hartford, Connecticut, professor who lead an international team searching for the true site of Atlantis.

To solve the age-old mystery, the team used a satellite photo of a suspected submerged city to find the site just north of Cadiz, Spain. There, buried in the vast marshlands of the Dona Ana Park, they believe that they pinpointed the ancient, multi-ringed dominion known as Atlantis.

The team of archeologists and geologists in 2009 and 2010 used a combination of deep-ground radar, digital mapping, and underwater technology to survey the site.

Freund's discovery in central Spain of a strange series of "memorial cities," built in Atlantis' image by its refugees after the city's likely destruction by a tsunami, gave researchers added proof and confidence, he said.

Atlantis residents who did not perish in the tsunami fled inland and built new cities there, he added.

The team's findings will be unveiled on Sunday in "Finding Atlantis," a new National Geographic Channel special.

While it is hard to know with certainty that the site in Spain in Atlantis, Freund said the "twist" of finding the memorial cities makes him confident Atlantis was buried in the mud flats on Spain's southern coast.

"We found something that no one else has ever seen before, which gives it a layer of credibility, especially for archeology, that makes a lot more sense," Freund said.

Greek philosopher Plato wrote about Atlantis some 2,600 years ago, describing it as "an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Hercules," as the Straits of Gibraltar were known in antiquity. Using Plato's detailed account of Atlantis as a map, searches have focused on the Mediterranean and Atlantic as the best possible sites for the city.

Tsunamis in the region have been documented for centuries, Freund says. One of the largest was a reported 10-story tidal wave that slammed Lisbon in November, 1755.

Debate about whether Atlantis truly existed has lasted for thousands of years. Plato's "dialogues" from around 360 B.C. are the only known historical sources of information about the iconic city. Plato said the island he called Atlantis "in a single day and night... disappeared into the depths of the sea."

Experts plan further excavations are planned at the site where they believe Atlantis is located and at the mysterious "cities" in central Spain 150 miles away to more closely study geological formations and to date artifacts.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un5z6_c8YkU
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 14, 2011, 10:42:27 pm
Full USS Liberty documentation.


A survivor of the attack on the USS Liberty and his son wrote a book covering Israel's deliberate attack on the USS Liberty. John Scott recounts his experience of the day of the attack and makes some startling allegations.

Scott says the US launched fighter jets to defend the Liberty against the Israeli attack but, the planes were called back by President LBJ himself! He didn't want to "embarrass our ally".

He says the reason for the attack may have been Israel feared they would learn of their planned offensive into the Golan Heights for the next morning or they feared the ship was in visual range of a camp where the Israelis were massacring POWs after having the prisoners dig their own graves.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHNa5UZkFNs


Ray McGovern mentioned two possible reasons which could be Israels motivation for the attack:

1. The taking of the Golan Heights.
2. The massacre of Egyptian POWs at El Arish.

There is a third possible reason. Perhaps the psychopathic crook Lyndon B. Johnson had made a back-door deal with the Israelis and wanted the ship to sink. Without survivors the incident could have been blamed on the Egyptians. This unprovoked attack could have been exploited as reason for the United States to enter the war. Here is the Alex Jones video Thick Headed has mentioned earlier. Jones believes a backdoor deal is the reason for a false flag attack.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSLlIRf-aQI
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 14, 2011, 10:48:43 pm
(2010) Reptilian Eyes Explained (Demonic Possession) Plans for World War 3.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThhsMnOzLY
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 15, 2011, 11:48:04 am
Finding Atlantis, a new National Geographic Channel special.


Original Link: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/finding-atlantis-4982/Overview



Download Link: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6241969/National.Geographic.Finding.Atlantis.HDTV.XviD-DiVERGE
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 17, 2011, 06:29:05 pm
HAARP responsible: animal/fish deaths earthquakes.

http://www.thedoggstar.com/tag/haarp-responsible-for-animal-deaths

Dead Cows, Birds, Fishes, Crabs, Bees; sings of the Last Days [End Times]
January 23, 2011 | Author SIRIUS


I would think by now everyone has heard of the many mysterious animal deaths going on this past month, I have taken a while to write about it but in that time, just more and more animals have died, quite an estrange occurrence which leads one to believe that this could be either a sign of the End Times or just some more of the work of the Illuminati, perhaps both.

It is the belief of some that this is being caused by magnetic waves being sent by the use H.A.A.R.P., according to Cliff High, who created the WebBot Reports, the possible reason for this, could be that “the Powers that be” could be trying to steer the North Pole, trying to keep the magnetic North Pole away from the physical North Pole, since they have known for quite some time that any time, in our past, that the magnetic pole and geographic pole aligns, there has been a crustal shift, which would bring a lot of changes to the earth, through all kinds of natural disasters, so it could be possible that the Illuminati is trying to avoid the re-accommodation of land, for a while, maybe until they can insure that they would have control after such a catastrophe, since the whole earth would basically be rearranged, just like it happened in the days of Noah, and don’t forget that a sign of the End, is that it would be like in the days of Noah, but through Fire instead of Water, which again goes along with what is happening since many of the changes going on at the moment, come from the way the Sun has been behaving lately, heating up all the planets in the system, yet they talk of global warming to make some extra cash.

Here is the list of Animals that have been found throughout this month with some images for y’all to get the picture:(http://www.thedoggstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/489_dead_fish-300x200.jpg) (http://www.thedoggstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/australia-2006.1206664140.dead-penguin-ninet-mile-beach-300x224.jpg)
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Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: LBSS on March 31, 2011, 02:02:15 am
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Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.vend3tta on March 31, 2011, 04:02:51 pm
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He's changed considerably!.


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Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on September 06, 2011, 05:43:51 am
Is this Jack the Ripper? Scotland Yard's Chief Inspector Frederick Abberline named as serial killer in new investigation.


Original Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2022896/Is-Jack-Ripper-Scotland-Yards-Chief-Inspector-Frederick-Abberline-named.html


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Culprit? Chief Inspector Frederick Abberline has been
named as Jack the Ripper by a Spanish investigator.



Suspects have ranged from a member of Royal Family to a local butcher – but it is now claimed that Jack the Ripper was the very detective who led the hunt for the killer.

Chief Inspector Frederick Abberline of Scotland Yard was the man who murdered and mutilated at least five women in Victorian East London – at least according to Spanish writer Jose Luis Abad, 84.

He makes the claim in his book Jack the Ripper: The Most Intelligent Murderer in History, published in Spain this week.

Mr Abad is a handwriting expert and has compared Abberline’s writing with that in the Ripper’s diary – which surfaced in Liverpool in 1992.

Mr Abad, says: ‘I have no doubt Abberline was the Ripper. Handwriting does not lie.’


The diary was attributed to a Liverpool cotton dealer called James Maybrick – whom others have identified as the Ripper.

But many experts say the diary is a hoax. Mr Abad believes it is real, but that the author was Abberline, not Maybrick.

Other theories link the Ripper murders to Queen Victoria’s grandson, Prince Albert Victor.

The detective was placed in charge of the Ripper investigations following the murder of Mary Ann Nichols in August 1888. He died in 1929 aged 86 at his home in Bournemouth.


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'Killer' among the cops: Abberline (circled) in a group photo of officers in Whitechapel in 1888 - the year of the Ripper murders.


Michael Caine played Chief Inspector Abberline in the 1988 TV movie Jack the Ripper, and Johnny Depp played the policeman in 2001's From Hell.

Jack the Ripper brought terror to the capital by butchering at least five prostitutes in Whitechapel, east London, between August and November 1888. On one infamous night, he murdered two women within minutes of each other.

An analysis of his methods revealed that several of the Ripper's victims had their throats cut, while those killed also had organs removed such as the uterus or the heart.

It has been claimed that before every slaying the Ripper would spend time drinking spirits in the pub before taking a stroll throughout the Whitechapel neighbourhood with lowered inhibitions.


After each killing he would return to a safe area where he could wash the blood from his hands and get rid of soiled clothing.

The case remains one of the world's greatest unsolved murder mysteries and over the years many suspects have been brought into the frame including Prince Albert Victor, Queen Victoria's grandson; Sir William Gull, the Queen's physician; and Sir Walter Sickert, a renowned painter of the time.

At the time of the incidents New Scotland Yard boiled it down to four suspects but similarly they were unable to nail the murderer.

The pseudonym Jack the Ripper came from a letter posted to a London news agency at the time of the murders, supposedly from the killer himself but it was later dismissed as a hoax.

Last month it emerged Scotland Yard is fighting a legal battle to withhold secret Ripper files compiled by Special Branch officers in the 1880s.






Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: adarqui on September 06, 2011, 08:28:47 am
why are people so obsessed with jack the ripper? i don't get it.. maybe because he was known as one of the first serial killers of modern times?

some modern day serial killers have killed over 50 people, it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 07, 2011, 11:22:17 am
A lot of stuff to read. Nice

How about any conspiracy theories behind Michael Jackson's death.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on September 11, 2011, 05:03:11 pm
why are people so obsessed with jack the ripper? i don't get it.. maybe because he was known as one of the first serial killers of modern times?.

Yeah exactly.

Plus it's still unresolved, people want to solve it, so many suspects (some famous) including possible involvement from our own Royal family. It's much bigger here in the UK than than say anywhere else.


You guys checked the letsroll forum regarding 9/11. http://letsrollforums.com/

Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: adarqui on September 12, 2011, 04:00:11 am
i read that as 'lets troll' lool

forum looks interesting, will check it out.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: Raptor on September 12, 2011, 06:44:43 am
i read that as 'lets troll' lool

Me too. In fact, only because you wrote that ^^^ I'm now aware that's not "let's troll". :highfive:
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 12, 2011, 11:37:44 am
I would like to make a statement regarding the assassination of JFK  :P where you quote JFK being shot from behind. I find that hard to believe. He was shot from the front right causing his head to fall back and left. A nice movie is called JFK i don't know the exact title but shows a good interpretation. But i feel that there was definitely more than 1 shooter.

They believed a few people responsible involved people in the high places such as LBJ, CIA, etc.

But the people who shot him differ.

the following are letters from a Mr estes to Justice Department.

THE ESTES DOCUMENTS
In 1961, Henry Marshall was found shot to death on his remote Texas farm. He had been shot five times with a .22 caliber rifle and, since the rifle was lying beside his body, the coroner had no problem coming up with the probable scenario: Suicide. The only problem was the type of rifle - it was a bolt-action, and in non-shooter lay man's terms, this simply meant that Marshall would had to have manually worked the bolt four times (up, back, forward, down, fire - up, back, forward, down, fire, etc.) in order to shoot himself. At the same time he would have had to turn the rifle around at an awkward angle, pointing it into his side, stretching his arm and squeezing off each shot with his thumb. Five times. In addition to the obvious difficulties for a man to have committed suicide in this fashion, were the outcries of Marshall's family, who fervently disagreed with the suicide verdict. There appeared to be no good reason for Marshall, a successful farmer, with money in the bank and a solid record with his employer, the U. S. Department of Agriculture, to have committed suicide. But despite the strange appearance of things, the cause of death was officially listed as suicide by gunshot.

Things started to change a few months later when Secretary of Agriculture, Orville Freeman, released information pertaining to an investigation that Marshall had been participating in at the time of his death.

Billie Sol Estes, now known as the Texas wheeler-dealer and con-man supreme was, in 1961, at the peak of his agricultural career. He had become a multimillionaire and a virtual icon in Pecos, Texas. His success was due, in great part, by his solid connections in government - and one of his primary connections was Vice President Lyndon Johnson. Things started to fall apart when Estes' cotton allotment scheme began to be scrutinized by Agriculture officials. Estes had master minded a bizarre method of having the government transfer other farmer's cotton allotments to his own cotton acreage. In this way all of his land could be used to grow the tightly regulated crop. Such a scheme would have been impossible without help from high officials, either inside the U.S.D.A., or Washington, or both. Henry Marshall, in reviewing the cotton allotment irregularities connected with Billy Sol Estes, evidently uncovered a warm path that led to Vice President Johnson, but also to his own untimely death.

Billie Sol went to trial and then prison, never once breathing the name of Lyndon Johnson - until his release in 1984. A Texas Ranger, Clint Peoples, had befriended Estes and convinced him that he should come clean with the whole truth. True to his word, Estes agreed to appear before a Robertson County grand jury and clear the record concerning the cotton allotments, the death of Henry Marshall and the involvement of LBJ and others.

He recounted the whole ugly picture - from the millions he had funnelled into Johnson's secret slush fund, to the illegal cotton allotment scheme, to the murder of Henry Marshall. Estes testified that Lyndon Johnson, Cliff Carter, Malcolm Wallace and himself met several times to discuss the issue of the "loose cannon" - Henry Marshall. Marshall had refused a LBJ-arranged promotion to Washington headquarters, and it was feared that he was about to talk. Johnson, according to Estes finally said, "Get rid of him," and Malcolm "Mac" Wallace was given the assignment. According to testimony, Wallace followed Marshall to a remote area of his farm and beat him nearly unconscious. Then while trying to asphyxiate him with exhaust from Marshall's pickup truck, Wallace thought he heard someone approaching the scene, and hastily grabbed a rifle which customarily rested in the window rack of the truck. Quickly pumping five shots into Marshall's body, Wallace fled the scene. Suicide.

That 1984 grand jury testimony accomplished only one official action. Marshall's death certificate was finally changed to read: "Cause of death - murder by gunshot." All of the guilty participants were dead - Johnson, Carter and Wallace. The only one left was Estes, and the U. S. Justice Department, getting wind of the Robertson grand jury testimony, wanted to talk to him.

A letter was sent to Estes, requesting a meeting with him to discuss the provocative charges he had made. Estes enlisted the legal services of Douglas Caddy to represent him in the matter. Caddy then wrote a letter to the Justice Department asking for the protection of immunity, among other things for his client. In his letter, Caddy outlined far more than the Justice Dept. had bargained for. In addition to the crimes Estes had testified to for the Robertson County grand jury, Estes listed seven more murders directly linked to Lyndon Johnson, one of them being that of President John F. Kennedy; and all of them at the hand of Malcolm Wallace.

After many months of negotiating at the highest levels of the Justice Department, Estes refused to testify to federal officials regarding the details of these crimes of the 1960's. We are still awaiting the day when Billie Sol, now 71, will testify to these details.

A few months after the November, 1995 release of our book: "THE MEN ON THE SIXTH FLOOR," I received two of these letters of negotiation, from two different sources. The content of these letters was startling. These letters have never been released to the public and since they are private negotiations between the Justice Department and a citizen, it is doubtful that they ever would have been released, even to the Assassination Records Revue Board, whose federally mandated job it is to examine and oversee the release of documents pertaining to the assassination of President Kennedy.

Here, for the first time, is the complete text of these two letters. They will be added to future printings of "THE MEN ON THE SIXTH FLOOR."

Glen Sample

LETTER # 1 - FROM JUSTICE DEPT.

May 29, 1984

U. S. Justice Department Criminal Division

Douglas Caddy
Attorney-at-Law
General Homes Building
7322 Southwest Freeway
Suite 610
Houston, Texas 77074

Dear Mr. Caddy:

RE: Billy Sol Estes

I have considered the materials and information you have provided to me in connection with your representation of Billy Sol Estes. I understand that Mr. Estes claims to have information concerning the possible commission of criminal offenses in Texas in the 1960's and that he is willing to reveal that information at this time. I also understand that Mr. Estes wants several things in exchange for this information, such as a pardon for the offenses for which he has been convicted and immunity from any further prosecution among other things.

Before we can engage in any further discussions concerning Mr. Estes' cooperation or enter into any agreement with Mr. Estes we must know the following things: (1) the information, including the extent of corroborative evidence, that Mr. Estes has about each of the events that may be violations of criminal law; (2) the sources of his information; and (3) the extent of his involvement, if any, in each of those events or any subsequent cover-ups. Until we have detailed information concerning these three things we can not determine whether any violations of federal criminal law occurred which are within our jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute and, if so, whether the information is credible and otherwise warrants investigation. Accordingly, if we are to proceed with meaningful discussions concerning Mr. Estes' proffered cooperation, we must receive a detailed and specific written offer of proof from you setting forth the information noted above. The government will hold your offer of proof in strictest confidence and will not make any use of it other than to determine the credibility of the proffered information and whether it warrants further discussions with or debriefings of Mr. Estes.

I must make sure that several things are understood at this time concerning Mr. Estes' proffered cooperation. First, if after reviewing your offer of proof we decide the information that Mr. Estes can provide is credible and in all other respects warrants further investigation -- a decision which will be made unilaterally by the government -- it will be necessary for Mr. Estes to be interviewed and to reveal everything he knows about the possible criminal violations. He will have to do so completely, truthfully and without guile. Second, it must be understood that the government is not now making specific promises to Mr. Estes except with respect to the confidentiality and use of your offer of proof as noted above. If it is decided that Mr. Estes should be interviewed, the extent of promises concerning the confidentiality or use of the statement or promises of reward or consideration to Mr. Estes, if any, will be determined only after we receive a detailed written offer of proof from you.

Above all else, I must emphasize that Mr. Estes must act with total honesty and candor in any dealings with the Department of Justice or any investigative agency. If any discussions with or debriefings of Mr. Estes take place after receipt of your offer of proof and if any agreement ultimately is reached after Mr. Estes provides a statement, the government will not be bound by any representations or agreements it makes if any of his statements at any time are false, misleading or materially incomplete or if he knowingly fails to act with total honesty and candor.

Sincerely
Stephen S. Trott
Assistant Attorney General
Criminal Division

LETTER #2 - FROM DOUGLAS CADDY:

August 9, 1984

Mr. Stephen S. Trott
Assistant Attorney General, Criminal Division
U.S. Department of Justice
Washington, D. C. 20530

RE: Mr. Billie Sol Estes

Dear Mr. Trott:

My client, Mr. Estes, has authorized me to make this reply to your letter of May 29, 1984. Mr. Estes was a member of a four-member group, headed by Lyndon Johnson, which committed criminal acts in Texas in the 1960's. The other two, besides Mr. Estes and LBJ, were Cliff Carter and Mac Wallace. Mr. Estes is willing to disclose his knowledge concerning the following criminal offenses:

I. Murders

1. The killing of Henry Marshall
2. The killing of George Krutilek
3. The killing of Ike Rogers and his secretary
4. The killing of Harold Orr
5. The killing of Coleman Wade
6. The killing of Josefa Johnson
7. The killing of John Kinser
8. The killing of President J. F. Kennedy.

Mr. Estes is willing to testify that LBJ ordered these killings, and that he transmitted his orders through Cliff Carter to Mac Wallace, who executed the murders. In the cases of murders nos. 1-7, Mr. Estes' knowledge of the precise details concerning the way the murders were executed stems from conversations he had shortly after each event with Cliff Carter and Mac Wallace.

In addition, a short time after Mr. Estes was released from prison in 1971, he met with Cliff Carter and they reminisced about what had occurred in the past, including the murders. During their conversation, Carter orally compiled a list of 17 murders which had been committed, some of which Mr. Estes was unfamiliar. A living witness was present at that meeting and should be willing to testify about it. He is Kyle Brown, recently of Houston and now living in Brady, Texas.

Mr. Estes, states that Mac Wallace, whom he describes as a "stone killer" with a communist background, recruited Jack Ruby, who in turn recruited Lee Harvey Oswald. Mr. Estes says that Cliff Carter told him that Mac Wallace fired a shot from the grassy knoll in Dallas, which hit JFK from the front during the assassination.

Mr. Estes declares that Cliff Carter told him the day Kennedy was killed, Fidel Castro also was supposed to be assassinated and that Robert Kennedy, awaiting word of Castro's death, instead received news of his brother's killing.

Mr. Estes says that the Mafia did not participate in the Kennedy assassination but that itparticipation was discussed prior to the event, but rejected by LBJ, who believed if the Mafia were involved, he would never be out from under its blackmail.

Mr. Estes asserts that Mr. Ronnie Clark, of Wichita, Kansas, has attempted on several occasions to engage him in conversation. Mr. Clark, who is a frequent visitor to Las Vegas, has indicated in these conversations a detailed knowledge corresponding to Mr. Estes' knowledge of the JFK assassination. Mr. Clark claims to have met with Mr. Jack Ruby a few days prior to the assassination, at which time Kennedy's planned murder was discussed.

Mr. Estes declares that discussions were had with Jimmy Hoffa concerning having his aide, Larry Cabell, kill Robert Kennedy while the latter drove around in his convertible.

Mr. Estes has records of his phone calls during the relevant years to key persons mentioned in the foregoing account.

II. The Illegal Cotton Allotments

Mr. Estes desires to discuss the infamous illegal cotten allotment schemes in great detail. He has recordings made at the time of LBJ, Cliff Carter and himself discussing the scheme. These recordings were made with Cliff Carter's knowledge as a means of Carter and Estes protecting them selves should LBJ order their deaths.

Mr. Estes believes these tape recordings and the rumors of other recordings allegedly in his possession are the reason he has not been murdered.

III. Illegal Payoffs

Mr. Estes is willing to disclose illegal payoff schemes, in which he collected and passed on to Cliff Carter and LBJ millions of dollars. Mr. Estes collected payoff money on more than one occasion from George and Herman Brown of Brown and Root, which was delivered to LBJ.

In your letter of May 29, 1984, you request "(1) the information, including the extent of corroborative evidence, that Mr. Estes sources of his information, and (3) the extent of his involvement, if any, in each of those events or any subsequent cover-ups."

In connection with Item # 1, I wish to declare, as Mr. Estes' attorney, that Mr. Estes is prepared without reservation to provide all the information he has. Most of the information contained in this letter I obtained from him yesterday for the first time. While Mr. Estes has been pre-occupied by this knowledge almost every day for the last 22 years, it was not until we began talking yesterday that he could face up to disclosing it to another person. My impression from our conversation yesterday is that Mr. Estes, in the proper setting, will be able to recall and orally recount a criminal matters. It is also my impression that his interrogation in such a setting will elicit additional corroborative evidence as his memory is stimulated.

In connection with your Item #2, Mr. Estes has attempted in this letter to provide his sources of information.

In connection with your Item #3, Mr. Estes states that he never participated in any of the murders. It may be alleged that he participated in subsequent cover-ups. His response to this is that had he conducted himself any differently, he, too, would have been a murder victim.

Mr. Estes wishes to confirm that he will abide by the conditions set forth in your letter and that he plans to act with total honesty and candor in any dealings with the Department of Justice or any federal investigative agency.

In return for his cooperation, Mr. Estes wishes in exchange his being given immunity, his parole restrictions being lifted and favorable consideration being given to recommending his long-standing tax leins being removed and his obtaining a pardon.

Sincerely yours,

Douglas Caddy

As well as other theories
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 12, 2011, 11:54:43 am
New video footage of the JFK assassination 52 minutes long found.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/72668-1
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 12, 2011, 03:04:14 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncOagOB10GY
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: Raptor on September 12, 2011, 04:51:06 pm
I believe there were definitely explosives in the WTC towers. Put in by, you know, the terrorists. I mean, who else? No way the US government would do that to their own citizens would they?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 13, 2011, 08:15:09 am
These .gifs for me proves without a resounding doubt who fired the fatal shot.



Bullet fired skywards.


(http://www.realityreviewed.com/z313%20adjusted.png)



Again Nix .gif below shows same thing, bullet fired skywards. Stare at the top of his head.


(http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/jfk__GIFSoupcom.gif)



(http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/images/dennisdavid.jpg)







First shot.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7-GnaK6aT4








I don't understand what you think actually happened. im guessing you think either there was a concealed weapon which was triggered from the boot shooting him from behind. but didn't the seats get in the way or something and assuming you say that there was a gap near the handle which we can't see but if we look at the autopsy photos. it shows an entrance wound at the front right of the skull as that picture you showed almost everyone came with that view as can be seen from the zapruder film.

Here is an article related to the characteristics of the gun shot wound.

(http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/jpeg2/FOR049.jpg)

The upper diagram illustrates the basic differences between the skin appearance of a contact, close (intermediate), and distant (indeterminant) range gunshot wound. The appearance of the wounding characteristics in the skull is shown in the lower diagram in which there is bevelling of the skull outward away from the direction of origin of the bullet.

here are a few images of gun shot wounds at intermediate which is a bit further than what you assume.

immediate range gun shot wound,gross
http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUN010.html
http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUN013.html

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/kennedy-back.jpg
Photo of the president's back, oddly taken from below the body. The Warren Commission's report located this wound at the back of the neck, though you can clearly see that the wound is to the back.

no gun shot holes found at the back of the neck of JFK.

i decided not embed but show a link (WARNING: shows gun shot wound with exposed flesh).
http://www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/kennedy-front.jpg

Front of the president. The entry wound (and it is an entry wound) is obscured by his tracheotomy. Of course, giving him a tracheotomy when much of his brain was missing was futile. So entrance wound on the front of the neck.

So no evidence in the autopsy photo he was shot from behind close up range. no gun shot powder marks found on the body.

so you're claim is wrong.

Also when the shot took place wouldn't the people run to the car, but nope they did not. 38 of the people heard gun shot from the grassy knolls.

also missed shots were found on the path taken by the motorcade, front screen of the car smashed by a bullet and dash board.

one thing to question is why did the security guards leave the side of the president's car and why did it slow down to give the shooter a chance they should have speeded up straight away but didn't until when he was shot in the head then did the car speed up. why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8

I never realised this before, there were 2 suspicious people in the video of the zapruder film a man with an umbrella and another waving his fist. look at their reaction after the assassination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB-TLTWAh6s

So to sum it all up the people who were in on the assassination as in they were involved in helping the shooter.
Driver, Connally.

Conally because of his two different testaments he gave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP04_lGjkO0
and he always seems to use the word slumped, like a codeword they used for JFK, i don't know

the two suspicious peoples, as for the shooter that is still some mystery.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 13, 2011, 08:38:31 am
I believe there were definitely explosives in the WTC towers. Put in by, you know, the terrorists. I mean, who else? No way the US government would do that to their own citizens would they?

So atleast we know it wasn't the plane, now the second question is how did the terrorist plant the bombs in there.
how did they get access to it while carrying a bomb, metal detectors so forth.

During 9/11 Security Was Shut Down and During the Planes crashing into the Building worried workers in the WTC 2 buildings were stopped by guards from leaving when told of the planes they said it was an accident and the wtc 2 tower is still secure also doors to the stairwell were locked so no access to floor or roof, what is going on here. Read on for more info including testaments

9/11 Security
Courtesy of Marvin Bush
Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served. [Utne]

According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."

The company lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," in projects that "often require state-of-the-art security solutions for classified or high-risk government sites."

Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.

The Dulles Internation contract is another matter. Dulles is regarded as "absolutely a sensitive airport," according to security consultant Wayne Black, head of a Florida-based security firm, due to its location, size, and the number of international carriers it serves.

Black has not heard of Stratesec, but responds that for one company to handle security for both airports and airlines is somewhat unusual. It is also delicate for a security firm serving international facilities to be so interlinked with a foreign-owned company: "Somebody knew somebody," he suggested, or the contract would have been more closely scrutinized.

As Black points out, "when you [a company] have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer." [American Reporter]

A heightened WTC security alert was lifted on 9/6/2001...
The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. [NY Newsday]

...there was a power down in WTC 2 the weekend before 9/11...
On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower." [WingTV]http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/powerdown.html (http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/powerdown.html)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brSXmZVVCMI

...Bush's cousin had a fortunate change of venue for a September 11 business conference...
President Bush's cousin should have been in the World Trade Centre when it was attacked. Jim Pierce, managing director of AON Corporations, had arranged a business conference on the 105th floor of the South Tower where its New York offices were based. But his group was too large so they decided to move across the street to the Millennium Hotel. [Annova]

...and it just so happens that Marvin was in New York on 9/11.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bush_newyork_9-11.html

Both WTC6 http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc6.html (http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc6.html) and WTC 7 http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html (http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html) were evacuated within minutes of Flight 11 striking WTC 1, but this did not happen in the twin towers. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc1_survivor.html (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc1_survivor.html)

following the plane strike, and workers were encouraged to stay in their building...
Dan Baumbach - WTC 1 Survivor:
 
Dan Baumbach, 24, a software engineer from Merrick, was stunned to find that building officials in One World Trade Center were telling workers not to evacuate even after the first jet struck. "You can try it, but it's at your own risk," he quoted one official as telling a group of 100 people on the 75th floor. Many chose to follow that advice; Baumbach continued his descent from the 80th floor and survived, but only after braving the debris that fell when the neighboring tower collapsed. "The reason we got out was because we didn't listen," he said. [Newsday]http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/newyork/ny-nyevac132363609sep13.story (http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/newyork/ny-nyevac132363609sep13.story)

   "In the neighboring south tower people were also evacuating, but an announcement over the PA system tells them their building is secure and they can return to their desks..." (http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wtc_announcement.jpg)

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.2.announcement.wmv (http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.2.announcement.wmv) (Video download)

Stanley Praimnath - WTC 2 Survivor:
'If they had continued on and exited the building, all of their lives would have been spared. As it was, that's not the way it happened. "As soon as we reached the concourse level, the security guard stopped us and said, 'Where are you going?' Stanley explained about seeing the fire in Tower One. According to Stanley, the guard said, "Oh, that was just an accident. Two World Trade is secured. Go back to your office."' [Mercola]http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/19/testimony.htm (http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/19/testimony.htm)

"Today it is still a mystery why no-one in the towers reached the roof..."
(http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wtc_roof.jpg)

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.roof.mystery.wmv (http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/911.wtc.roof.mystery.wmv) (Video download)

The solution to the mystery is simple - the roof doors were locked, as were many stairwell doors. http://www.mjbarkl.com/locked.htm (http://www.mjbarkl.com/locked.htm)

WTC surveillance tapes feared missing
Imagine my surprise...

Surveillance tapes and maintenance logs are among the missing evidence as investigators try to figure out why the World Trade Center collapsed, federal officials said Monday. ... The lost records probably contain vital information that could help answer questions, Sunder said. Investigators are trying to locate copies of many destroyed documents from the building's owners and city agencies. [FortWayne.com] http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/fortwayne_wtctapes.htm (http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/fortwayne_wtctapes.htm)
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 13, 2011, 08:48:45 am
So shocking i decided to post this again, but the referral links were dead.

'In the neighboring south tower people were also evacuating, but an announcement over the PA system tells them
their building is secure and they can return to their desks...'18
If they (survivors) had continued on and exited the building, all of their lives would have been spared. As it was,
that's not the way it happened. As soon as we reached the concourse level, the security guard stopped us and said,
'Where are you going?' Stanley explained about seeing the fire in Tower One. According to Stanley, the guard said,
'Oh, that was just an accident. Two World Trade is secured. Go back to your office.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: Raptor on September 13, 2011, 08:54:03 am
I also heard that the place where the other plane stroke the Pentagon was the place where a lot (all) of bankrupcy documents that were on the way of proving trillions of dollars were just stolen or "misplaced" by the government. Guess they all burned up didn't they?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 13, 2011, 08:56:15 am
Exact testament of stanley.

81ST FLOOR
Stanley Praimnath, survivor
Fuji Bank

Mr. Praimnath was on the 81th floor, at his desk, when the plane hit the south tower. These are excerpts from an interview with Mr. Praimnath, who credits Brian Clark, a man he did not know but who worked on the 84th floor, with saving his life. Mr. Clark and Mr. Praimnath are two of 18 people known to have escaped from at or above the impact zone in the South Tower.

I'm seeing fireballs coming down from the sky. [The adjacent north tower has been hit, it is 8:46 a.m.] And I'm like, oh, man, what's going on? So I pick up the phone and I'm dialing my boss who works on the 59th floor of 1 World Trade. I'm getting no response. I hung up the phone, I said, Delise, (a temporary employee in his office) ``Let's get out of here.''

We ran down the corridor, back to the elevator, took the local elevators, went back to the 78th floor. While we waited there, me and Delise, 18 other people from my company were waiting there: the president, the C.E.O., the head of human resources, the head of general affairs, all these big guys are there. We took the elevator and went downstairs to the lobby. We're about to exit through the turnstile, and the security guard says, ``Where you guy's going?'' We said, ``Well, we saw fireballs coming down.'' ``No, all is well, go back to your office,'' the man said. The building is secured. Sent us back up.

For no apparent reason, I turned to Delise and said Delise, why don't we take the rest of the day off. She was happy. I don't know why I told her, probably the wisest decision I made in my life. But these people were standing up there, they're looking at me rather funny like I made a wrong judgment call. And I mean, these are the ... bosses, and they're looking at me strange, I'm standing up there, waiting for the elevator with these guys, one of the guys, Jack, he's making a joke of me. ``Stan, the man, you're not scared to come in the elevator.''

So , I'm telling one of the guys, Brian, the head of human resources, I said, Brian, ``It's a good time to take a look at relocation.'' Brian was looking at me and he said ``You've got that right."

So the elevator came, we jump in, we're gone. We get back to the 78th floor. Once we reached there we took the local elevators - some went to the 79th, some went to the 80th, I got off at the 81st, and some went to the 82nd. I walked back into my office. The phone is ringing again. This time there's a young lady from Chicago, a business associate. "Stan, are you watching the monitor, are you watching the news to see what is going on?" she asks. "Yes, I'm fine."

And for no apparent reason in mid-sentence I just raised my head and looked to the Statue of Liberty and what I see is a big plane coming towards me. This plane is coming, eye level towards me. Eye contact. I'm seeing a big gray plane, with a red stripe, and I can still see it in my eyes now. I dropped the phone, screamed, dove under my desk and I don't know why I said what I tell you now. "Lord, you take over. I can't do this."

"And I don't know, I do not know, as God be my witness, and I'm a deacon in my Sunday school and church and I'm a Sunday school superintendent, I would not tell you a lie here. I don't know why I said it, but I screamed."

The plane impacts. I try to get up and then I realize that I'm covered up to my shoulder in debris. And when I'm digging through under all this rubble, I can see the bottom wing starting to burn, and that wing is wedged 20 feet in my office doorway.

So I'm pushing stuff out and I'm crawling and I'm crawling and I'm screaming, ``Help me, help me. I'm trapped. Don't leave me here." Then I see this flashlight. I can't believe it. So I crawl toward it, the length of one floor, which is like a short city block. And I crawled through the loan department into the lounge, into the computer room, into the communication room and I realize I can't go farther. There's a Sheetrock wall. And I can't breathe. And I'm saying "I'm here, I'm here. Don't leave me." And I can hear a person saying, "Knock on the wall, knock on the wall and I'll know where you are." And once I got closer, I'm knocking on the wall. But even before he was there I was pounding, pounding. I'm hitting everything possible. Making my way forward. So he is hearing this banging from wherever he is. The man said his name was Brain Clark, I think he's a vice president for Euro Brokers. I've never seen this man in my life. And I've worked 13 years in this building. He said when he heard me screaming. He stopped to rescue me. Bottom line is, I said ``Lord, just this one time give me strength.'' And I'm punching, punching, punching, punching. And then he said, "I feel a head." I said well, when you see my head, yank my body through.

This wall would have been a drywall. It was not a strong wall. A regular partition wall. Part of it's broken and part of it's intact and is standing up. And the man just pulled with all his might and I fell on top of him. (Mr. Clark says that he told Mr. Praimnath to jump.)

The next thing I know, I'm telling this man, I give him a big kiss and a hug, my guardian angel. And this man is looking at me as if I'm a nut.

Anyway we made our way down. While we're going, we stopped at a floor. We saw a man. This man was crying like a baby. I think his back was broken. And he's crying ``Tell my loved ones that I care for them; I love them.'' We're hobbling down, hobbling down. We got to the bottom, the ground floor. My hand looked like a balloon. My leg, my left leg, behind, the muscle behind there, the calf, it was opened up because I had like a long leg wound. I was cut, bloody, bruised all over. And I was sore. Black and blue.

Interview by Eric Lipton

Daily Times
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 13, 2011, 09:01:03 am
Exact testament of stanley.

81ST FLOOR
Stanley Praimnath, survivor
Fuji Bank

Mr. Praimnath was on the 81th floor, at his desk, when the plane hit the south tower. These are excerpts from an interview with Mr. Praimnath, who credits Brian Clark, a man he did not know but who worked on the 84th floor, with saving his life. Mr. Clark and Mr. Praimnath are two of 18 people known to have escaped from at or above the impact zone in the South Tower.

I'm seeing fireballs coming down from the sky. [The adjacent north tower has been hit, it is 8:46 a.m.] And I'm like, oh, man, what's going on? So I pick up the phone and I'm dialing my boss who works on the 59th floor of 1 World Trade. I'm getting no response. I hung up the phone, I said, Delise, (a temporary employee in his office) ``Let's get out of here.''

We ran down the corridor, back to the elevator, took the local elevators, went back to the 78th floor. While we waited there, me and Delise, 18 other people from my company were waiting there: the president, the C.E.O., the head of human resources, the head of general affairs, all these big guys are there. We took the elevator and went downstairs to the lobby. We're about to exit through the turnstile, and the security guard says, ``Where you guy's going?'' We said, ``Well, we saw fireballs coming down.'' ``No, all is well, go back to your office,'' the man said. The building is secured. Sent us back up.

For no apparent reason, I turned to Delise and said Delise, why don't we take the rest of the day off. She was happy. I don't know why I told her, probably the wisest decision I made in my life. But these people were standing up there, they're looking at me rather funny like I made a wrong judgment call. And I mean, these are the ... bosses, and they're looking at me strange, I'm standing up there, waiting for the elevator with these guys, one of the guys, Jack, he's making a joke of me. ``Stan, the man, you're not scared to come in the elevator.''

So , I'm telling one of the guys, Brian, the head of human resources, I said, Brian, ``It's a good time to take a look at relocation.'' Brian was looking at me and he said ``You've got that right."

So the elevator came, we jump in, we're gone. We get back to the 78th floor. Once we reached there we took the local elevators - some went to the 79th, some went to the 80th, I got off at the 81st, and some went to the 82nd. I walked back into my office. The phone is ringing again. This time there's a young lady from Chicago, a business associate. "Stan, are you watching the monitor, are you watching the news to see what is going on?" she asks. "Yes, I'm fine."

And for no apparent reason in mid-sentence I just raised my head and looked to the Statue of Liberty and what I see is a big plane coming towards me. This plane is coming, eye level towards me. Eye contact. I'm seeing a big gray plane, with a red stripe, and I can still see it in my eyes now. I dropped the phone, screamed, dove under my desk and I don't know why I said what I tell you now. "Lord, you take over. I can't do this."

"And I don't know, I do not know, as God be my witness, and I'm a deacon in my Sunday school and church and I'm a Sunday school superintendent, I would not tell you a lie here. I don't know why I said it, but I screamed."

The plane impacts. I try to get up and then I realize that I'm covered up to my shoulder in debris. And when I'm digging through under all this rubble, I can see the bottom wing starting to burn, and that wing is wedged 20 feet in my office doorway.

So I'm pushing stuff out and I'm crawling and I'm crawling and I'm screaming, ``Help me, help me. I'm trapped. Don't leave me here." Then I see this flashlight. I can't believe it. So I crawl toward it, the length of one floor, which is like a short city block. And I crawled through the loan department into the lounge, into the computer room, into the communication room and I realize I can't go farther. There's a Sheetrock wall. And I can't breathe. And I'm saying "I'm here, I'm here. Don't leave me." And I can hear a person saying, "Knock on the wall, knock on the wall and I'll know where you are." And once I got closer, I'm knocking on the wall. But even before he was there I was pounding, pounding. I'm hitting everything possible. Making my way forward. So he is hearing this banging from wherever he is. The man said his name was Brain Clark, I think he's a vice president for Euro Brokers. I've never seen this man in my life. And I've worked 13 years in this building. He said when he heard me screaming. He stopped to rescue me. Bottom line is, I said ``Lord, just this one time give me strength.'' And I'm punching, punching, punching, punching. And then he said, "I feel a head." I said well, when you see my head, yank my body through.

This wall would have been a drywall. It was not a strong wall. A regular partition wall. Part of it's broken and part of it's intact and is standing up. And the man just pulled with all his might and I fell on top of him. (Mr. Clark says that he told Mr. Praimnath to jump.)

The next thing I know, I'm telling this man, I give him a big kiss and a hug, my guardian angel. And this man is looking at me as if I'm a nut.

Anyway we made our way down. While we're going, we stopped at a floor. We saw a man. This man was crying like a baby. I think his back was broken. And he's crying ``Tell my loved ones that I care for them; I love them.'' We're hobbling down, hobbling down. We got to the bottom, the ground floor. My hand looked like a balloon. My leg, my left leg, behind, the muscle behind there, the calf, it was opened up because I had like a long leg wound. I was cut, bloody, bruised all over. And I was sore. Black and blue.

Interview by Eric Lipton

Daily Times

there are other accounts aswell http://www.mishalov.com/wtc_southtower.html

very tragic what happened.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 13, 2011, 10:03:58 am
Deathbed confession of one of the conspirators involved in the JFK assassination

http://www.rense.com/general76/hunt.htm

Part 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbD_u7nUB_c

part 2/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLfl0Mxcbp8

LBJ's mistress blows whistle on JFK assassination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lOKs0Kr_Y

deathbed confession of Howard E Hunt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bknUDgKdEJQ

Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 13, 2011, 10:07:54 am
interview with JC price

.C. Price was the superintendent of the Terminal Annex Building located across Dealey Plaza from the Texas School Book Depository. On November 22, 1963, he viewed the Presidential motorcade from the roof of his building. In this interview with Mark Lane, Mr. Price says that he believed the shots to come from the area behind the picket fence where the fence joined the overpass and claims to have seen a man running in the area behind the fence toward the rear of the TSBD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2mqluF_IwM
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: vag on September 13, 2011, 10:57:55 am

LBJ's mistress blows whistle on JFK assassination


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LBJ's mistress blows whistle on JFK assassination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lOKs0Kr_Y



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Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 13, 2011, 11:38:37 am
Lol hahaha

what i meant to say was the mistress of Lyndon B Johnson blows whistle of JFK assassination.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 13, 2011, 11:43:09 am
Article by the dailymail

Explosive Jackie O tapes 'reveal how she believed Lyndon B Johnson killed JFK and had affair with movie star'




By Liz Thomas

Last updated at 6:20 PM on 8th August 2011

Jackie Onassis believed that Lyndon B Johnson and a cabal of Texas tycoons were involved in the assassination of her husband John F Kennedy, ‘explosive’ recordings are set to reveal.

The secret tapes will show that the former first lady felt that her husband’s successor was at the heart of the plot to murder him.

She became convinced that the then vice president, along with businessmen in the South, had orchestrated the Dallas shooting, with gunman Lee Harvey Oswald – long claimed to have been a lone assassin – merely part of a much larger conspiracy.

Texas-born Mr Johnson, who served as the state’s governor and senator, completed Mr Kennedy’s term and went on to be elected president in his own right.

The tapes were recorded with leading historian Arthur Schlesinger Jnr within months of the assassination on November 22, 1963, and had been sealed in a vault at the Kennedy Library in Boston.

The then Mrs Kennedy, who went on to marry Greek shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis, had ordered that they should not be released until  50 years after her death, with some reports suggesting she feared that her revelations might make her family targets for revenge.

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Former first lady Jackie Kennedy is said to have made the tapes within months of JFK's assassination

She died 17 years ago from cancer aged 64 and now her daughter, Caroline Kennedy, has agreed to release the recordings early.

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John and Jackie Kennedy with daughter Caroline, who allowed the tapes to be released to ABC in return for their cancelling of the mini series about the family

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Jackie is said to reveal her affair with actor William Holden, top, which she did in retaliation for her husband's many flings

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In the tapes, Jackie allegedly blames President Lyndon Johnson for the death of JFK, who took over the post from her husband after his assassination

A programme featuring the tapes will be aired by U.S. network ABC, and it is understood British broadcasters are in talks to show it here too.

ABC executives claimed the tapes’ revelations were ‘explosive’.

They are believed to include the suggestion that Mr Kennedy was having an affair with a 19-year-old White House intern, with his wife even claiming that she found knickers in their bedroom.

And they go on to reveal that she too had affairs – one with Hollywood star William Holden and another with Fiat founder Gianni Agnelli – as a result of the president’s indiscretions. It has also been claimed that, in the weeks before Mr Kennedy’s assassination, the couple had turned a corner in their relationship and were planning to have more children.

Historian Edward Klein, who has written several books on the Kennedy clan, said: ‘Jackie regarded the pretty young things in the White House as superficial flings for Jack. She did retaliate by having her own affairs.

‘There was a period during which she was delighted to be able to annoy her husband with her own illicit romances.’

It is believed that Caroline, 53, agreed to the early release of the tapes in exchange for ABC dropping its £10million drama series about the family.

The Kennedys, starring Tom Cruise’s wife Katie Holmes as Jackie, critically charted the family’s political and personal trials and tribulations since the 1930s. The series was eventually broadcast on an independent cable channel,  and on BBC2 in the UK, against Caroline’s wishes.

A spokesman for ABC said the claims about the content of the tapes were 'erroneous'.

He said: ‘The actual content of the tapes provide unique and important insight into our recent past from one of the most fascinating and influential First Ladies in American history.’

The broadcaster did not reply to repeated requests for comment and would not clarify what was on the tapes, saying the programme was not scheduled for broadcast until mid-September.

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Daughter Caroline Kennedy released the 'explosive' tapes

source:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023418/Jackie-O-tapes-reveal-JFKs-affairs-believed-death.html
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on September 13, 2011, 02:23:13 pm
About 4 years later after winning the primary at the embassador hotel in 1968 Robert F Kennedy was killed by a Sirhan Sirhan, which further examined turned out to be correct as he was not in the position to make shots responsible for the death of RFK.

RFK conversation with LBJ (@vag: Lyndon B Johnson)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzWNDPx4Pm0

CNN video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go2WLCrmE5w

CIA Agents killed RFK part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0eh0hRlfCU

CIA Agents killed RFK Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw-6SrVs0K8

Second Gunman - Paul Schrade Close Friend of RFK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHTgAWg9mkw
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: adarqui on October 15, 2011, 02:50:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffs7PkOREEY
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on October 15, 2011, 04:11:45 pm
Al-Qaeda Exposed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0
Look at the that, jews disguising as muslims for a fake extremist group  :o.  Who would have guessed, out of all the people, it is these people who are diguising as muslims to give islam a bad name. They don't deserve to be labelled as jews as true jewish people have some understanding about their religion better then these fake american jews. the true jews are against isreal then why does it exist?

True jews have nothing against islam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCOynC1xPAs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfsBfrji0OM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE

There are lot, you can find it on youtube.

Charlie Sheen on 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWG2rR0twYM


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on October 15, 2011, 04:33:47 pm
Al-Qaeda A Fake Organisation

The answers to all your questions are out there, you just need to know where to look. If you don't intend finding the truth then an alternative (Lies) will be provided for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-hYorNi0nA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek7ZHenQnu4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnV_pNe_BB0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZtbYnslB0o

Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: adarqui on October 17, 2011, 03:10:26 pm
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Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: seifullaah73 on March 09, 2012, 11:28:29 am
A New propaganda is spreading on the internet via a viral video. Joseph kony, kony 2012.

when i saw this video i saw how there talks mesmerized the people watching, but while looking around it is nothing but propaganda.

i can't say much as it is new to me.

but a few stories have been said but not spread because they disprove the video.

it came out of no where and they say it has been around for years,

he is in the middle of the jungle kidnapping children to be a part of his army.

but there are questions. who is supplying weapons?

he is probably a scape goat.

it is all for the reason of oil.

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JUST SAW VIDEO OF A YOUNG LADY NAMED ROSE FROM UGANDA TALKING ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING SAYING THE VIDEO DEPICTS THINGS THE WAY THEY WERE 5-6 YEARS AGO AND THAT THINGS ARE BETTER AND THE IMAGES DONT SHOW THE TRUE PROGRESS THAT THEY THEMSELVES ARE MAKING WITHOUT AMERICAS ASSISTANCE...SO DONT BE FOOLED ITS ABOUT OIL, OIL, OIL

Just an excuse to bring attention to it so they can do what they want.

its new so need to read more on in. see what is really going on, i can't give my opinion whos right or wrong yet until i find the truth.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Thread.
Post by: adarqui on October 15, 2012, 06:15:08 pm
seemed more like the producer/director of it just trying to get famous.. he had a mental breakdown shortly after people started questioning his motives, ran around CALI naked going nuts.

any which way you slice it though, kony is still a monster.. regardless of whether he's "not been as active", he still committed crimes against humanity, children, women etc.

i doubt it has anything to do with usa though.. you never know but, i'd bet on just someone trying to get famous.

pC