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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2017, 06:45:09 am »
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just saw this in passing before bed.. 42 guns found at the shooter's home.. wtf? how is that even possible?

http://www.newsweek.com/las-vegas-gun-laws-open-carry-concealed-weapon-machine-guns-all-legal-nevada-675310

"Nevada has some of the most-relaxed gun laws in the country, a legislative condition that is sure to come under renewed scrutiny in the wake of the worst mass shooting in U.S. history on Sunday night in Las Vegas.

Nevada law does not require firearms owners to have licenses, register their weapons, or limits the number of firearms an individual posses. Automatic assault weapons and machine guns are also legal in the state as long as they are registered and are possessed in adherence to federal law, according to the National Rifle Association".
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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2017, 07:04:47 am »
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someone (a performer at the concert) changed their mind on gun control.. the interesting part to me is "we had guns but we couldn't even touch them for fear of being shot by the police", duh.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/10/02/i-cannot-express-how-wrong-i-was-country-guitarist-changes-mind-on-gun-control-after-vegas/?utm_term=.3dbe2011d4d8

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“I’ve been a proponent of the 2nd amendment my entire life. Until the events of last night. I cannot express how wrong I was. We actually have members of our crew with [Concealed Handgun Licenses], and legal firearms on the bus,” Keeter wrote. “They were useless.” He continued:

We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group (or one man) laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of fire power.

Enough is enough.

Writing my parents and the love of my life a goodbye last night and a living will because I felt like I wasn’t going to live through the night was enough for me to realize that this is completely and totally out of hand. These rounds were just powerful enough that my crew guys just standing in close proximity of a victim shot by this f—ing coward received shrapnel wounds.

We need gun control RIGHT. NOW. My biggest regret is that I stubbornly didn’t realize it until my brothers on the road and myself were threatened by it. We are unbelievably fortunate to not be among the number of victims killed or seriously wounded by this maniac.

still don't see how improving background checks, not allowing people to sell weapons to whomever, and tougher licensing requirements is anti 2nd amendment.

like LBSS said, fuck the NRA.

It takes guts to admit that. I would never wish events like these on anyone but if there is one silver lining hopefully it convinces more and more people to change their minds/beliefs about the 2nd amendment and gun control in general. Obviously with millions of guns circulating throughout the USA it's a challenging task but it's something that needs to be done. How somebody can smuggle machine guns and high powered firearms into a hotel is beyond me!

ya.

but the bad sign is, gun sales sky rocketed yesterday.. :/

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2017, 07:05:32 am »
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you guys remember chase skinkis? he's been on here / TVS, and he's been on the dunk king, dunker/baller etc.. think he's some kind of engineer. anyway, he was there.


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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2017, 07:36:04 am »
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someone (a performer at the concert) changed their mind on gun control.. the interesting part to me is "we had guns but we couldn't even touch them for fear of being shot by the police", duh.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/10/02/i-cannot-express-how-wrong-i-was-country-guitarist-changes-mind-on-gun-control-after-vegas/?utm_term=.3dbe2011d4d8

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“I’ve been a proponent of the 2nd amendment my entire life. Until the events of last night. I cannot express how wrong I was. We actually have members of our crew with [Concealed Handgun Licenses], and legal firearms on the bus,” Keeter wrote. “They were useless.” He continued:

We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group (or one man) laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of fire power.

Enough is enough.

Writing my parents and the love of my life a goodbye last night and a living will because I felt like I wasn’t going to live through the night was enough for me to realize that this is completely and totally out of hand. These rounds were just powerful enough that my crew guys just standing in close proximity of a victim shot by this f—ing coward received shrapnel wounds.

We need gun control RIGHT. NOW. My biggest regret is that I stubbornly didn’t realize it until my brothers on the road and myself were threatened by it. We are unbelievably fortunate to not be among the number of victims killed or seriously wounded by this maniac.

still don't see how improving background checks, not allowing people to sell weapons to whomever, and tougher licensing requirements is anti 2nd amendment.

like LBSS said, fuck the NRA.

It takes guts to admit that. I would never wish events like these on anyone but if there is one silver lining hopefully it convinces more and more people to change their minds/beliefs about the 2nd amendment and gun control in general. Obviously with millions of guns circulating throughout the USA it's a challenging task but it's something that needs to be done. How somebody can smuggle machine guns and high powered firearms into a hotel is beyond me!

ya.

but the bad sign is, gun sales sky rocketed yesterday.. :/

Knee jerk reaction to a possibility that the 2nd amendment could stripped. It will never happen though unfortunately due to the NRA wielding too much influence and power (and paying off the right senators and congressional people). Only in the USA can owning guns be a right whilst having healthcare is a privilege...
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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2017, 08:15:10 am »
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The problem with gun control imo, is that for the wealthy hardworking suburban/rural area land owner, it would be frightening to not be able to protect yourself.

One of the biggest deterrents of home invasions, robberies, etc is that the criminal is afraid the owner has guns.
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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2017, 09:27:52 am »
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The problem with gun control imo, is that for the wealthy hardworking suburban/rural area land owner, it would be frightening to not be able to protect yourself.

One of the biggest deterrents of home invasions, robberies, etc is that the criminal is afraid the owner has guns.

totally agree, one of the biggest deterrents is AR15's with extended clips & kits to make em` shoot like fully autos. :trollface: :uhhhfacepalm:

like LBSS said, fuck the NRA. That stuff you just wrote is straight out of their garbage propaganda.

Also, lol at "wealthy hardworking suburban / rural land owners".. Forget making it harder to compile an arsenal fit for a military platoon, because this segment of society needs to protect their avocado fields.

I'm still so confused how "gun control" equates to "not being able to protect yourself".. Some people want guns completely stripped/banned, gun free society, that's not what "tougher gun control" is about though. Most just want loopholes closed so that I can't go buy high caliber weapons and sell them to a known criminal right down the street, with impunity. Most just want stricter background checks, you know, so mentally ill & people on terror watch lists can't buy them..

smh.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2017, 04:08:22 pm »
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The problem with gun control imo, is that for the wealthy hardworking suburban/rural area land owner, it would be frightening to not be able to protect yourself.

One of the biggest deterrents of home invasions, robberies, etc is that the criminal is afraid the owner has guns.

totally agree, one of the biggest deterrents is AR15's with extended clips & kits to make em` shoot like fully autos. :trollface: :uhhhfacepalm:

like LBSS said, fuck the NRA. That stuff you just wrote is straight out of their garbage propaganda.

Also, lol at "wealthy hardworking suburban / rural land owners".. Forget making it harder to compile an arsenal fit for a military platoon, because this segment of society needs to protect their avocado fields.

I'm still so confused how "gun control" equates to "not being able to protect yourself".. Some people want guns completely stripped/banned, gun free society, that's not what "tougher gun control" is about though. Most just want loopholes closed so that I can't go buy high caliber weapons and sell them to a known criminal right down the street, with impunity. Most just want stricter background checks, you know, so mentally ill & people on terror watch lists can't buy them..

smh.

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I'm all for tougher gun control, i guess i misunderstood the meaning of it.
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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2017, 04:29:57 pm »
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The problem with gun control imo, is that for the wealthy hardworking suburban/rural area land owner, it would be frightening to not be able to protect yourself.

One of the biggest deterrents of home invasions, robberies, etc is that the criminal is afraid the owner has guns.

totally agree, one of the biggest deterrents is AR15's with extended clips & kits to make em` shoot like fully autos. :trollface: :uhhhfacepalm:

like LBSS said, fuck the NRA. That stuff you just wrote is straight out of their garbage propaganda.

Also, lol at "wealthy hardworking suburban / rural land owners".. Forget making it harder to compile an arsenal fit for a military platoon, because this segment of society needs to protect their avocado fields.

I'm still so confused how "gun control" equates to "not being able to protect yourself".. Some people want guns completely stripped/banned, gun free society, that's not what "tougher gun control" is about though. Most just want loopholes closed so that I can't go buy high caliber weapons and sell them to a known criminal right down the street, with impunity. Most just want stricter background checks, you know, so mentally ill & people on terror watch lists can't buy them..

smh.

peace

I'm all for tougher gun control, i guess i misunderstood the meaning of it.

that's what the NRA does, confuses the hell out of people.. they push lies, propaganda, etc all over the place. Tons of groups do this on a variety of issues, obviously it's not just the NRA, but when it comes to guns, it's a little bit more repulsive imho. The NRA succeeds & profits on fear, violence, etc, and by doing so, they lobby against common sense gun regulation/policies.

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Gun control. ... Gun control (or firearms regulation) is the set of laws or policies that regulate the manufacture, sale, transfer, possession, modification, or use of firearms by civilians.

That's it .. just regulations/policies. The NRA & their minions have conflated "Gun Control" with "Gun Confiscation".. and people buy it. They also push the agenda that gun confiscation (their gun control lie) is some plot to destroy America by liberals. It's all so damn ridiculous.

my opinion.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2017, 10:57:01 am »
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8 members of one family killed in the TX church mass shooting.. damn, that is brutal :/ sad stuff.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2018, 01:02:27 pm »
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perfect :/


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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2018, 07:04:57 am »
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It's sad but this latest massacre is still unlikely to lead to any changes  :(
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« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2018, 02:58:02 pm »
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just something I fb'd today. my mind kept wanting me to say something, even tho i've been trying to refrain from politics related posts.

Also, it was definitely odd seeing people i've "met" at running races etc, on CNN today during the parkland rally against guns. Saw several people, some of which were the Mayor/Commissioner etc of Parkland/Coral Springs etc. One of them gave a really passionate speech .. and i've met her a few times at races. Just weird thinking back to those days - happy race events, compared to now. Also someone I grew up with who is now a cop, was on the scene.


"It's not a gun issue, it's a mental health issue!". If we're talking about the mental health of the United States, then yes - I completely agree.

I've been refraining from making political posts on KremlinBook, so i'll keep it brief. Regarding tragic mass shootings, the common theme is obviously violent individuals & high powered weapons. The more deeply rooted issue, to me, is America's "culture of violence" or the "American Psychosis". Not sure how we can expect to live in a peaceful society when our country is in a perpetual state of Warfare, both domestically and abroad. People keep saying we need "change": agreed. Though I think the depth of this change is overlooked substantially.

As just one example: we've previously voted in an administration that falsified intelligence in order to sell a bogus war & line the pockets of those in the Defense & Energy Industries, which in turn created more instability, cost thousands of American lives, cost millions of Middle Eastern lives, cost trillions of dollars, and resulted in ISIS, which motivates many around the world - including American born citizens, to carry out mass acts of violence.

Violence is big business in our society. Whether it be War & the Defense/Offense industry, the for profit Prison System, purposefully undermining education & infrastructure, violent music, violent movies, violent games, violent toys etc: the US has a rich history of violence & this trend continues.

We've all experienced the effect this has on us, but most of us fail to identify it. Most violent ideas & thoughts are mutations of someone else's ideas or actions. Regardless, the "training" starts at a very young age, especially for boys. Most will unknowingly "perpetuate" it, some knowingly, and a few will "execute" it.

Violence is a virus: it can be transmitted as an idea or a physical act.

In my lifetime, i've seen every attempt at eradicating this virus thwarted. Perhaps the most depressing of all, is when the people themselves are duped into supporting violence against their very own selves, families, communities, and the Earth in general.

RIP.

Tightening up gun regulations would probably be a good step, but one of *many* steps. Just a tiny bit of progress would be nice to see once in a while. However, it's going to take much larger change to get this train back on the rails again.

Just my 2cents.

Anyway. To end on a good note, here are some athletes running in Kenya.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2018, 04:33:29 am »
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"It's not a gun issue, it's a mental health issue!". If we're talking about the mental health of the United States, then yes - I completely agree.

Regarding tragic mass shootings, the common theme is obviously violent individuals & high powered weapons. The more deeply rooted issue, to me, is America's "culture of violence" or the "American Psychosis". Not sure how we can expect to live in a peaceful society when our country is in a perpetual state of Warfare, both domestically and abroad. People keep saying we need "change": agreed. Though I think the depth of this change is overlooked substantially.

Pretty good insight right there! I 'get' the appeal of violence to the male psyche. I just enjoy living in a society where peace is more valued, having lived in Africa and Australia, not having to stress about your well-being and safety from violence is priceless.
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« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2018, 08:28:07 pm »
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"It's not a gun issue, it's a mental health issue!". If we're talking about the mental health of the United States, then yes - I completely agree.

Regarding tragic mass shootings, the common theme is obviously violent individuals & high powered weapons. The more deeply rooted issue, to me, is America's "culture of violence" or the "American Psychosis". Not sure how we can expect to live in a peaceful society when our country is in a perpetual state of Warfare, both domestically and abroad. People keep saying we need "change": agreed. Though I think the depth of this change is overlooked substantially.

Pretty good insight right there! I 'get' the appeal of violence to the male psyche. I just enjoy living in a society where peace is more valued, having lived in Africa and Australia, not having to stress about your well-being and safety from violence is priceless.

Thanks man.. and yup :/

Also, i've never lived in a non-violent society. Some parts of the US are safer, but Florida is pretty dangerous. For example, even if I lived in the safest country, i'd still always be on guard and probably still carry my knife. That's what the US will do to you.

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« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2018, 08:31:19 pm »
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I follow Coral Springs PD on Facebook, they assisted Parkland during the shooting, as CSPD has a larger police force. The childhood friend I mentioned who saw the gruesome scene first hand, is a CSPD officer.

Anyway, they posted this photo of one of the shooting victims who is trying to recover.. :/

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Please keep Anthony Borges and his family in your prayers as he fights to recover from the five gunshots he suffered during Wednesday's shooting.



5 gunshot wounds from an AR15................... :/